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a_unique_person
21st March 2006, 03:41 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/republican-rats-start-to-desert-sinking-ship/2006/03/19/1142703211896.html

Interesting article on the slide towards the end of the Bush administration.

* Republicans in the Senate and House are distancing themselves from Bush
* Giuliani most popular Republican for Presidency, but he will never be the candidate
* US election will be decided on issues that are not important to most Americans.

The founding fathers long ago set up the Primaries system to try to prevent exactly this happening, I think, but instead it has enabled interest groups to hijack the system.

Ed
21st March 2006, 03:56 AM
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/republican-rats-start-to-desert-sinking-ship/2006/03/19/1142703211896.html

Interesting article on the slide towards the end of the Bush administration.

* Republicans in the Senate and House are distancing themselves from Bush
* Giuliani most popular Republican for Presidency, but he will never be the candidate
* US election will be decided on issues that are not important to most Americans.

The founding fathers long ago set up the Primaries system to try to prevent exactly this happening, I think, but instead it has enabled interest groups to hijack the system.

The "founding fathers" did?

Really?

a_unique_person
21st March 2006, 04:11 AM
No, but you know who I mean.

Skeptic
21st March 2006, 04:14 AM
Who DO you mean?

a_unique_person
21st March 2006, 04:15 AM
The guys who invented the Primaries system. The intent was the opposite of the end effect.

Manny
21st March 2006, 06:35 AM
That was who, Teddy Roosevelt and Christopher Columbus, when they discovered that mixing three candidates in various combinations could produce all the other candidates?

shemp
21st March 2006, 06:42 AM
The U.S. presidential primary systems was created haphazardly, state-by-state, by people who wanted to remove control of the candidate choice system from party bigwigs and put it in the hands of the voters. It hasn't succeeded for the most part, with some exceptions (Jimmy Carter is an example).

The real problem is that it is hard to find anyone who is truly good, intelligent and caring who wants to subject himself/herself to all the crap one has to go through to become President, and to commit themselves to years of working their way up through the political ranks in lesser positions (Governor, House, Senate). People who have the qualities we would like in a President have passed up the public sector and are making big careers for themselves in the private sector. So we get either political careerist hacks, or rich jerks who buy their way into office.

Zbu
21st March 2006, 06:47 AM
The part of the article I loved is how they go on about the Repubs deserting the albotross president while complaining that the Democrats are doing nothing. They probably won't do anything at all: if they try, they'll simply get the blame for anything in hopes that it'll push up Bush and rally his base again. If I was in that situation, I wouldn't do a damn thing either except wait and let the country come running back to the Good Old Opposition Party for no other reason than that's the only feasible choice for sanity at this time. Bush had silenced them well, and now when he needs an enemy to turn the attention off of his troubles, he won't get it. All the Repubs will be able to do in the next two to four years is whine about how the Democrats that weren't in power screwed up the nation when all the policy decisions were in strict Republican control. Who can they blame? Who will really believe them?

I'm not saying the Dems planned it this way, but it's working out beautifully. I hope it bears fruist in 2006.

Mephisto
21st March 2006, 07:19 AM
The part of the article I loved is how they go on about the Repubs deserting the albotross president while complaining that the Democrats are doing nothing. They probably won't do anything at all: if they try, they'll simply get the blame for anything in hopes that it'll push up Bush and rally his base again.

You'da thunk, being a country-boy, Bush woulda known about the old saying, "Give an idiot enough rope and he'll hang himself." :)