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alancarre
11th October 2002, 03:09 PM
Where do you stand politically? Click to find out:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/

Please post your scores so others can know where you stand. If you're curious mine was:

Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.85

- Alan

Cain
11th October 2002, 03:46 PM
I'm always highly skeptical of these "polticial quizes" because they seem to herd people toward a particular ideology (see the Libertarian test). This one asked more then a few loaded questions.

Anyway:

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.64

alancarre
11th October 2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by Cain
I'm always highly skeptical of these "polticial quizes" because they seem to herd people toward a particular ideology (see the Libertarian test). This one asked more then a few loaded questions.



Sure, it's not the most 'scientific' test :). Still, I have a feeling the final answer isn't that far from the truth generally.

- Alan

digitalmcq
11th October 2002, 04:37 PM
I'm apparently very radical. I don't put too much faith in these tests.

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8

alancarre
11th October 2002, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by digitalmcq
I'm apparently very radical. I don't put too much faith in these tests.

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8

Wow! I thought I hated the police! You're practically a terrorist! :) just kidding...

- A

aerocontrols
11th October 2002, 04:54 PM
Economic Left/Right: 3.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -2.31

MattJ

arcticpenguin
11th October 2002, 05:07 PM
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -3.18

Me centrist.

I also support the right of others to have hot libertine sex with Victor D., but have no interest in doing so myself.

Do you suppose their point in setting this up was just to show how close Margaret Thatcher is to Hitler by their reckoning?

And what the heck was that question on Astrology about?

Trollbane
11th October 2002, 05:58 PM
Economic left/right: 7.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.23

Extreme right wing.. Wow, my social-democrat-politically-active friend will brainwash me if he hears that..

glee
11th October 2002, 06:10 PM
Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.28

Standard English result there, I think. :D

shanek
11th October 2002, 06:52 PM
Some of these I don't even know how to answer. Like, "If globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations." What does that even mean? And are the two mutually exclusive?

Many of them don't actually have anything to do with political affiliation. Like, "Abstract art, because it doesn't represent anything, shouldn't be considered art at all," or, "When a person is troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things." WTF???? (and BTW, it's non-objective art that doesn't represent anything. Abstract art must represent an object or idea.)

Of them all, I think the one at self-gov.org is the most accurate; we had a bunch of people take it at a local festival a few weeks ago, and only three took issue with where they were placed.

(Oh, BTW: Economic Left/Right: 7.50, Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.26)

11th October 2002, 06:54 PM
Talk about biased question writing! Holy crap! I don't even know how to answer the questions. It's like if I asked you, "Are you still humping your dog every night? Yes or No."

Supercharts
12th October 2002, 09:03 AM
6.12 -1.23

I have no idea where that puts me.

Khalid01
12th October 2002, 11:11 AM
Of them all, I think the one at self-gov.org is the most accurate; we had a bunch of people take it at a local festival a few weeks ago, and only three took issue with where they were placed.

Holy crap, I took that last August and I was a Leftist-Authoritarian, nearing a centrist, this time around, I'm a perfect centrist, 50%-50%, this board has really morphed me. :)

However, the political compass registers me at -6.00, -3.69 which is farther to the left than I was before, which I think was also last August.

The Central Scrutinizer
12th October 2002, 11:34 AM
I am:

Economic Left/Right: 3.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.08

These also happen to be the only correct scores.

What do I win????

panduh
12th October 2002, 11:44 AM
Economic Left/Right: -0.12
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.69

Oh yeah. Full-Blooded Libertarian.

Martin
12th October 2002, 12:15 PM
"Some people are naturally unlucky"

Well, what the hell is that supposed to mean? Is it supposed to mean that in a sufficiently large population some people will end up really unlucky, or is it supposed to mean that some people are mystically 'jinxed'?

Oh, and -1.50, -8.05.

-8.05?! Bloody hell :eek:

digitalmcq
12th October 2002, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by alancarre


Wow! I thought I hated the police! You're practically a terrorist! :) just kidding...

- A

I like to think of myself as the embodiment of all that Jedi Knight despises.

I've actually taken quizzes like this that put me more towards the middle - always left, but not always so extreme.

Victor Danilchenko
12th October 2002, 03:34 PM
Economic Left/Right: -4.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -8.67

Haha, you fools -- me be the most bloody libertarian of the bunch here! :D

In the immortal words of Mel Gibson playing William Wallace -- FREEDOM!!!

(see my sig)

diomedes
12th October 2002, 10:16 PM
Economic left/right -3.75
Authoritarian /Libertarian -6.87

I thought the numbers were bunk until I clicked on their suggested reading list for Left-Libertarians (like me) and holy crap! they hit the jackpot with this one. These are the political books and authors that I'm most likely to read. (But they forgot Christopher Hitchens.)

But honestly I don't want to be lumped in with these people. I rather like the idea of globalization...really.

Walter Wayne
12th October 2002, 10:24 PM
Me

Eco L/R -4.75
Aut/Lib -4.56

Don't believe it. Didn't understand half the questions. I was guessing on the right answer, which is ironic since the right answer is supposed to be my opinion.

Walt

edit to add

Btw on self-gov.org i scored

70%(20%) on personal(economic) governance. I have a problem with the 5 questions that had on econimic governance as they didn't really cover enough of the issues I think to correctly identify me.

a_unique_person
12th October 2002, 11:35 PM
It appears I am perfectly normal human being.

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.50
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.38

Blue Monk
12th October 2002, 11:41 PM
Well I took the whole damn test and all it did was call me a Commie Pinko and froze up my computer.

crackmonkey
13th October 2002, 02:38 AM
-2.38, -0.77.

Edwin
13th October 2002, 02:48 AM
I got -1.12, -5.79, but I've done this several times before and got different answers every time.

specious_reasons
13th October 2002, 01:56 PM
Originally posted by shanek
Some of these I don't even know how to answer. Like, "If globalisation is inevitable, it should primarily serve humanity rather than the interests of trans-national corporations." What does that even mean? And are the two mutually exclusive?

Many of them don't actually have anything to do with political affiliation. Like, "Abstract art, because it doesn't represent anything, shouldn't be considered art at all," or, "When a person is troubled, it's better not to think about it, but to keep busy with more cheerful things." WTF???? (and BTW, it's non-objective art that doesn't represent anything. Abstract art must represent an object or idea.)


Yes, some of those questions were awful, some seemed like they had a "true only if you have a knee-jerk reaction" quality.

The art question, though, is a traditional left/right issue. Should the govt. fund the arts? "Abstract" art is a preferred target, because you can hold up the work in public for ridicule and say, "Your tax dollars paid for someone to urinate on Christ!"

Economic Left/Right: -2.00
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.97

Leftist liberal, about right...

Ian Osborne
13th October 2002, 04:59 PM
Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.54

Seems about right...

Nasarius
13th October 2002, 07:01 PM
Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -9.74

What can I say, I'm a Green leaning towards democratic socialism ;)

shanek
13th October 2002, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by specious_reasons
The art question, though, is a traditional left/right issue. Should the govt. fund the arts? "Abstract" art is a preferred target, because you can hold up the work in public for ridicule and say, "Your tax dollars paid for someone to urinate on Christ!"

That's not what the question says. It asks if art that doesn't represent anything can really be considered art. The Christ in Urine is a representation of something. It also doesn't say one word about government funding for the arts.

I would answer the question "Strongly Disagree," because I think some of the best art is nonobjective. And contrary to what most people think, it's incredibly difficult (albeit fun) to do. Yes, I think it's art, and yes, I think it's worthwhile.

However, I am against "public" (read: government) funding of the arts, although I am very much for "public" (read: voluntary donations by individuals and corporations) funding of the arts. You should be able to use your money to fund whatever art you like, but no one should be able to forceably take your money to fund whatever art they like.

Victor Danilchenko
13th October 2002, 08:37 PM
Nasarius

Economic Left/Right: -8.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -9.74Wow, someone actually beat me "libertarian"-wise... This will have to be corrected. :)

What can I say, I'm a Green leaning towards democratic socialismGreen leaning towards Libertarianism, here.

Hypatia
13th October 2002, 08:58 PM
Economic Left/Right: -2.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -4.77

To quote Mr. Spock, "Fascinating....." :)

Plutarck
13th October 2002, 10:43 PM
What a ******** test. Take this, for instance:

Class background determines peoples' conciousness more than their membership of a particular nation.

What they **** are they even talking about?

And:

All theatres and museums that can't survive on a commercial basis deserve to perish.

The concept of "commercial" seems to assume that you can't be non-profit, not-for-profit, or at least partially rely on donations.

And another:

Those who are able to work and do not should not expect to eat.

And if they already have enough of their own money to pay for they're food and choose not to work anymore? Clearly a loaded, ******** question.

And when it mentions "public funding", does that mean "From the Government"? I guess so...

And "One day science may be able to cure homosexuality"? And the bit about the Jews, etc etc etc? Did a Nazi write this?

They should have 2 more options: "Mu" and "Stupid, Loaded Question"

I just left the one's I thought were crap, blank. My result:

Left/Right: 4.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.85

They have negative numbers. Dumb move, as no lone likes being a "negative". When you use a "negative" number it brings about the idea of inferiority or "negativity". Either the person drawing it up knew this, or was ignorant of it.

If they knew, sounds like the inventor of the test is a Right-wing Authoritarian...like I said, a Nazi.

specious_reasons
14th October 2002, 07:03 AM
Originally posted by shanek


That's not what the question says. It asks if art that doesn't represent anything can really be considered art. The Christ in Urine is a representation of something. It also doesn't say one word about government funding for the arts.


My only rationale behind the question was that there seems to be a mindset where "modern art" is of no useful value, and that mindset is found in the far-right (generally).

Otherwise, I still agree, it's a lame question.

Plutarck
14th October 2002, 07:28 AM
Originally posted by specious_reasons


My only rationale behind the question was that there seems to be a mindset where "modern art" is of no useful value, and that mindset is found in the far-right (generally).

Otherwise, I still agree, it's a lame question.

That was certainly what was meant, but that's what makes it so amusing - to answer the question itself you had to not know what you were talking about!

Megalodon
14th October 2002, 08:03 AM
Economic Left/Right: -3.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.64

I've done this test before, and the results were pretty much the same... I guess that makes me a state hating socialist

BillyTK
14th October 2002, 09:04 AM
Economic Left/Right: -7.88
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -6.62


f!ck! i'm south west of ghandi--i was hoping for north west of stalin...

Shane Costello
14th October 2002, 09:20 AM
Economic left/right 5.88
Authoritarian/libertarian -1.13

It's getting lonely, only having Milton Friedman for company.

BillyTK
14th October 2002, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Plutarck
What a ******** test. Take this, for instance:

What they **** are they even talking about?

And:

The concept of "commercial" seems to assume that you can't be non-profit, not-for-profit, or at least partially rely on donations.

And another:

And if they already have enough of their own money to pay for they're food and choose not to work anymore? Clearly a loaded, ******** question.

And when it mentions "public funding", does that mean "From the Government"? I guess so...

And "One day science may be able to cure homosexuality"? And the bit about the Jews, etc etc etc? Did a Nazi write this?

They should have 2 more options: "Mu" and "Stupid, Loaded Question"

I just left the one's I thought were crap, blank. My result:

Left/Right: 4.75
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -5.85

They have negative numbers. Dumb move, as no lone likes being a "negative". When you use a "negative" number it brings about the idea of inferiority or "negativity". Either the person drawing it up knew this, or was ignorant of it.

If they knew, sounds like the inventor of the test is a Right-wing Authoritarian...like I said, a Nazi.

judging by the examples used in the debrief, the author's british and the so the quiz reflects popular british concerns (or popular british concerns according to the media).

so to correct for british bias, US posters should add 5 points to their left/right scores and subtract 5 points from authoritarian/libertarian scores. ;)

aerocontrols
15th October 2002, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by BillyTK


judging by the examples used in the debrief, the author's british and the so the quiz reflects popular british concerns (or popular british concerns according to the media).

so to correct for british bias, US posters should add 5 points to their left/right scores and subtract 5 points from authoritarian/libertarian scores. ;)

Maybe the editor is British, or maybe the examples you are judging buy are from a British author, but some of those questions seem to be lifted off of a German writer (http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm) from 1946. Theodor Adorno is also listed in the 'Related Reading' section at the politicalcompass website.

How one adjusts for that is anyone's guess.

If anyone is interested, I score 'Liberal Airhead' on the test from 1946.

MattJ

aerocontrols
15th October 2002, 05:08 PM
I think this also answers Plutarck's (and others') objections:

The questions make more sense if you're from another decade :D

MattJ

hammegk
15th October 2002, 06:35 PM
LOL.

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Authoritarian/Libertarian: 0.62

BillyTK
16th October 2002, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by aerocontrols


Maybe the editor is British, or maybe the examples you are judging buy are from a British author, but some of those questions seem to be lifted off of a German writer (http://www.anesi.com/fscale.htm) from 1946. Theodor Adorno is also listed in the 'Related Reading' section at the politicalcompass website.

How one adjusts for that is anyone's guess.

If anyone is interested, I score 'Liberal Airhead' on the test from 1946.

MattJ


didn't adorno take on US citizenship when he upped sticks to chicago? anyway, adorno's pretty much standard reading in social sciences over here, but i'm going off the "UK Political Compass" bit which uses (relatively) contemporary british mps as an example.

LFTKBS
25th October 2003, 11:02 PM
Is this thread pretty much done with? For the record:

Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.90

UnrepentantSinner
25th October 2003, 11:46 PM
Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.10

I see Hammy was one of the few closer to the center (centre since it was a British test?) than me.

Yahweh
25th October 2003, 11:54 PM
Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

I dont know what it means, but my dot is in the middle, kinda above the bottom midline, in there... somewhere...

Boo
25th October 2003, 11:59 PM
Dang, I ended up right around Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lahma. Hmmmm, I'm a little more liberal then I thought and and little more libretarian. Interesting.


Note to self: Do not take political qizzes while on cough medication.



Boo

Mendor
26th October 2003, 03:18 AM
Economic Left/Right: -2.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.28

I've taken this test several times. I've been further to the left and further to the right (economically) than this. I must be having a particularly wussy liberal day today.

Chaos
26th October 2003, 03:37 AM
Economic Left/Right: -4.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

Almost exactly the position of the Dalai Lama. Interesting...

Mr Manifesto
26th October 2003, 03:52 AM
Economic Left/Right: -7.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.18

I guess I leave the Dalai Lama to shame.

plindboe
26th October 2003, 05:59 AM
Economic Left/Right: -1.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

Cain
26th October 2003, 06:30 AM
Originally posted by Cain
I'm always highly skeptical of these "polticial quizes" because they seem to herd people toward a particular ideology (see the Libertarian test). This one asked more then a few loaded questions.

Anyway:

Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Authoritarian/Libertarian: -7.64


Almost one year later:

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

Mr Manifesto
26th October 2003, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Cain



Almost one year later:

Economic Left/Right: -8.75
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.00

Lefter-than-thou bastard.

billydkid
26th October 2003, 07:31 AM
The first question put me right off. As though the two were necessarily mutually exclusive. I will grant to the Libertarian test is not perfect either, but it doesn't paint you into a corner ie. "Are you pro-business or pro-human?" or "Do you think we should live in a socialist society where people treat each other nice and everybody has enough to eat or in a society where gigantic, powerful multinational corporations exploit the weak and polute our drinking water?"

ssibal
26th October 2003, 03:24 PM
I missed this thread, here are my scores:
Economic Left/Right: 3.12
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.31

The questions I did not understand I did not answer.

peptoabysmal
26th October 2003, 10:52 PM
My Scores:

Economic Left/Right: -1.00
Libertarian/Authoritarian: 1.49

They did not have a selection that said "I am a moron who relies on web personality tests for validation", or I might have picked that choice :D

peptoabysmal
26th October 2003, 10:55 PM
Originally posted by Yahweh
Economic Left/Right: 0.25
Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.23

I dont know what it means, but my dot is in the middle, kinda above the bottom midline, in there... somewhere...

Geez. I think it means you have a split personality. You should have it checked immediately.