Ethnic Origin - Tick box.....Which one?

[H3LL]

Having filled in scores of forms asking about my ethnic origin (gazillion job applications), I have each time been tempted to tick the "Black African" box while being neither black nor African.

Is the evidence as strong as I think it is that we all came 'Out of Africa'?

If so, is there any evidence that we would have been black?

Technically should everyone just put African?


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[brodski]

Having filled in scores of forms asking about my ethnic origin (gazillion job applications), I have each time been tempted to tick the "Black African" box while being neither black nor African.

Is the evidence as strong as I think it is that we all came 'Out of Africa'?

If so, is there any evidence that we would have been black?

Technically should everyone just put African?


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From a UK perspective, these things to to measure self identification.
So you can be whatever you want to be, evidence or facts be dammed, in a way you could be "post-modernly" black. :jaw-dropp

[Soapy Sam]

Could be black skin postdates the loss of most of the furry pelt which our ancestors presumably had, so maybe we started pink and went black later. Whether that happened in Africa is also open to question. Bits of Africa are pretty old, but life as a whole predates Africa as a whole.

If you limit the question to "At least recognisably human-ish" ancestors, then the consensus of opinion is African.

I tend to ignore boxes like this. I think of myself as "me". No categories, except "unique".

[H3LL]

From a UK perspective, these things to to measure self identification.
So you can be whatever you want to be, evidence or facts be dammed, in a way you could be "post-modernly" black. :jaw-dropp

They never have 'Post-modernly-pinky-blue-European-anti-modernly-unspecified-African', which seems more appropriate for me.


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[H3LL]

I tend to ignore boxes like this. I think of myself as "me". No categories, except "unique".

"Other"?


:D


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[brodski]

They never have 'Post-modernly-pinky-blue-European-anti-modernly-unspecified-African', which seems more appropriate for me.


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I'd complain to the CRE if I where you.

[ranson]

"Honky"

[TragicMonkey]

I sometimes pick "Pacific Islander", because an island is a land mass surrounded by water, and some of the water surrounding North America is the Pacific Ocean. Therefore I must be a Pacific Islander.

[H3LL]

but life as a whole predates Africa as a whole.


Agreed. But putting "replicating molecule" is taking it a but far. Ethic would tend to indicate human or at least Hominid/Hominidae, I would have thought.

Would ethnic labels disappear without identifiable culture? The only archaeological evidence available would be tool use/decoration? Oldest evidence I understand to be African.


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[H3LL]

I'd complain to the CRE if I where you.

I tried but couldn't find the 'Post-modernly-pinky-blue-European-anti-modernly-unspecified-African' department.


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[H3LL]

...a land mass surrounded by water....Therefore I must be a Pacific Islander.

Or a Europan. As distinct from a Jupiternianerer.


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[LTC8K6]

If "Native American" is a choice I check it since I was born here. :D

[brodski]

I tried but couldn't find the 'Post-modernly-pinky-blue-European-anti-modernly-unspecified-African' department.


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Take it up with the Home Office then.
I'm sure Charles Clarke would be delighted to hear from you.

[Idoubtthat]

I seem to remember reading someplace that we left Africa dark & bleached out over time but I can't ermember where I read that. If it was as I remember it it would have been a reasonably reliabale scientific source. I'll see if I can dig it up.

I'd honestly never thought of this when I checked those boxes

[wollery]

I think the loss of skin pigmentation is due to the necessity to produce vitamin D, which is done by the skin in sunlight. The lack of sun in northern climes meant that it was necessary, from an evolutionary standpoint, to have lighter skin.

As to the forms, I always tick "other" and write in "Jewish atheist", partly because it's accurate and partly because it'll confuse the heck out of them and screw up their statistical charts.

[El Greco]

You could always apply some Fake Bake™.

[roger]

When asked for my race I look for the 400m dash check box, but never find it :(

[Jorghnassen]

I'm always disappointed there isn't a blueberry option.

[tsg]

I think of myself as "me". No categories, except "unique".

Yep, just like everybody else.

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

I'll get my hat.

[Zep]

The term "aboriginal" is useful.

[emperorchaos]

I used to fidget nervously at the sight of these questions because I never knew whether to check "White" or "Middle Eastern", being that I am a derivative of both. However now most forms I come across lump "Middle Eastern" into "White", so I check "Other".

[TragicMonkey]

I used to fidget nervously at the sight of these questions because I never knew whether to check "White" or "Middle Eastern", being that I am a derivative of both. However now most forms I come across lump "Middle Eastern" into "White", so I check "Other".

Hmm. I might qualify as Middle Eastern, because I reside in Virginia, which is about the middle of the eastern coast of the US.

[tkingdoll]

As to the forms, I always tick "other" and write in "Jewish atheist", partly because it's accurate and partly because it'll confuse the heck out of them and screw up their statistical charts.

Me too :). Let's do the secret Jewish atheist handshake!

As a marketeer, I can confirm that any anomolies in forms are not generally recorded in the database, and don't get fed into the charts, sadly. All those folks who put 'Jedi' on their census forms just got counted as 'other'.

[Zep]

Then I'm obviously from the deep south and I'm a native, so does that make me of negroid descent?

[wollery]

Me too :). Let's do the secret Jewish atheist handshake!There's a handshake?!?

As a marketeer, I can confirm that any anomolies in forms are not generally recorded in the database, and don't get fed into the charts, sadly. All those folks who put 'Jedi' on their census forms just got counted as 'other'.Thanks Teek, you've just burst my superior smugness bubble. :faint:

[epepke]

I think the loss of skin pigmentation is due to the necessity to produce vitamin D, which is done by the skin in sunlight. The lack of sun in northern climes meant that it was necessary, from an evolutionary standpoint, to have lighter skin.

That idea hasn't been highly thought of in the past 15 years. It seems there's enough light for Black people to synthesize enough vitamin D.

The more common idea is that it is an adaptation to the cold. Light skin is much less susceptible to frostbite than dark skin.

[emperorchaos]

Hmm. I might qualify as Middle Eastern, because I reside in Virginia, which is about the middle of the eastern coast of the US.

Well I live in South Carolina. What does that make me? Lower middle eastern? Most people call it Southeastern.

Truthfully though, the paternal side of my family hails from Syria. The original spelling of my last name was Sabbagh (or maybe Sabagh, we were never certain). Of course, I'm sure it was spelled in different letters.

The rest of me, like most Americans I believe, is a mutt of Europe. Woof!

[tkingdoll]

There's a handshake?!?

Thanks Teek, you've just burst my superior smugness bubble. :faint:

They didn't teach you the handshake? Oy. What are you, some kind of schlemazel?

Regarding the Jedi thing, they actually did a count of them even though it wasn't recorded as part of the actual ONS statistics, just because of the media interest. There were 309,000 of them, but officially they are just 'other'. And no, that doesn't make Jedi an official religion.

[wollery]

They didn't teach you the handshake? Oy. What are you, some kind of schlemazel?I skipped a lot of secret Jewish atheist conspiracy classes, I was led astray by some atheist goyem! :(

[Soapy Sam]

I think JREF should rethink the next UK / US census form.

Obvious new categories would include
"Bright" ("Gah!")
"Non-Human Organism"
"Sceptic"
"SKeptic"
"Pastafarian"
"Woo"
"Unique. No, really. One of. Mould cracked etc."


I'm sure we can think of more.

[Smart_Cookie]

Regarding the Jedi thing, they actually did a count of them even though it wasn't recorded as part of the actual ONS statistics, just because of the media interest. There were 309,000 of them, but officially they are just 'other'. And no, that doesn't make Jedi an official religion.


What about Vulcans? :)

[Complexity]

I refuse to pick one. It tends to drive people crazy. Human Resources for my current job sent someone down to look me over and decide what I was. Racist fools.

[emperorchaos]

I refuse to pick one. It tends to drive people crazy. Human Resources for my current job sent someone down to look me over and decide what I was. Racist fools.

And?

What did they conclude?

Something exorbitant I hope!

[TragicMonkey]

Well I live in South Carolina. What does that make me? Lower middle eastern? Most people call it Southeastern.

South part of America = "South American".

[Complexity]

And?

What did they conclude?

Something exorbitant I hope!
They didn't tell me. My manager told me that they had complained I hadn't checked a box. I told him that doing so was against my principles. He smiled (basically a good guy) and said they'll just visit me and make up their own minds. I'm not sure what they concluded. Racist fools.

[Hydrogen Cyanide]

When I was in high school they were still insisting on "color"... I was tempted to list myself as "polka-dotted" (I have lots of freckles).

I have also recently been thinking of listing myself as Hispanic. I was born in Panama... and spent about 8 of my first 18 years in South and Central America. While I have studied Spanish, I am unfortunately not as competent as I should be.

But I've been too chicken. Perhaps that is what I should put under "other".

[tkingdoll]

I skipped a lot of secret Jewish atheist conspiracy classes, I was led astray by some atheist goyem! :(

What? Then how are you going to control the media/government/high street retail and suppress the Muslims?

[wollery]

What? Then how are you going to control the media/government/high street retail and suppress the Muslims?Oh, I already control the media and government, and my brother's in charge of all commerce and banking. We're letting the Muslims have their head at the moment to distract attention from our operations.

But remember not to tell anyone else about this.

Shalom cheverim!

[AmyWilson]

I put White, considering that I'm Anglo-Saxon/German/British. :)


I refuse to pick one. Racist fools.


Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage. :)

It's true.

[emperorchaos]

I put White, considering that I'm Anglo-Saxon/German/British. :)



Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage. :)

It's true.


If you were to actually say "It's true" like that after everything you say offline, I believe I'd have to silence you like the stealthy assassin I imagine myself to be late on most nights.

And also, maybe for some people race is unimportant. I don't think it is.

It's more true.

[LostAngeles]

I put White, considering that I'm Anglo-Saxon/German/British. :)



Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage. :)

It's true.

I'm mixed and so there's no option for me to celebrate my genetic heritage.

It's true.

[ranson]

I put White, considering that I'm Anglo-Saxon/German/British. :)



Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage. :)

It's true.

Why don't you go discuss that on Stormfront. I'm sure they'd love to hear from you.

[Complexity]

Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage. :)

It's true.
I am neither ashamed nor proud of my genetic heritage.

I'm much more interested in what I do with my time in the sun.

I am offended by people that play the race game, especially people that use the government to force others to play the race game.

[joesixpack]

I put White, considering that I'm Anglo-Saxon/German/British. :)



Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage. :)

It's true.

You're really white? Wow, most of the Anglo-Saxons I know are really sort of a peachy beige color.

Are you proud of your genetic heritage? Did it come about because of something you did?

I myself have never taken pride or shame from things which are out of my control, but it seems like you do. Are you often proud of the weather?

[brodski]

I put White, considering that I'm Anglo-Saxon/German/British.



Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage.

It's true.
It:) seems:) that :) you :) are :) ashemed :) of :) your :) genetic heritige

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=1530222#post1530222


it's :) true.

[tkingdoll]

I'm not ashamed of my genetic heritage but I can't go around wearing it on my sleeve because I would at best be spat on and at worst, threatened with a knife and probably harmed. Both of those things have happened to me, during the days when I was 'proud' of my heritage, and a lot in between. I've had to ask taxi cabs to pull over and let me out because the driver has started saying how, if they got 'the call', they would strap on a bomb and walk into the nearest synagogue. There is regularly a hate-poster campaign in nearby areas with delightful proclamations like "the final hour will not come until the Muslims kill all the Jews".

Amy, it's not as simple as being ashamed of one's heritage. When one is in the minority, it's sometimes a case of self-preservation. Your view is simplistic but perhaps you've never had anyone hate you simply for being born.

[tkingdoll]

It:) seems:) that :) you :) are :) ashemed :) of :) your :) genetic heritige

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=1530222#post1530222


it's :) true.

BRAVO! Excellent retort, sir, I doff my bowler to you.

[brodski]

BRAVO! Excellent retort, sir, I doff my bowler to you.
It's all in a days work m'am. ;)

[wollery]

Pride in one's genetic heritage has caused as many wars and genocides as pride in one's god. Just ask my grandmother's cousin. :mad:

I put "Jewish atheist" on monitoring forms, not because I'm proud of being Jewish, but because if I tick "white UK" it will be assumed by the monitors that I am an anglo-saxon christian of some denomination or other. I would personally prefer that such monitoring was unnecessary, but unfortunately the racism of a few idiots means that it is, and if I have to provide such information I want it to at least be accurate. :mad:

It's also quite interesting to see some people's reactions when a pale skinned, mousy blond, green eyed bloke tells them he's Jewish!

It's veracitude cannot be questioned! :)

[Hydrogen Cyanide]

I put White, considering that I'm Anglo-Saxon/German/British. :)



Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage. :)

It's true.

oooh... that is pretty much my heritage, except with a good splash of Norwegian and French.

But I am NOT white! I am polka-dotted. I have all these light brown freckles that go with my light red hair because of the possibly British Isles component of my heritage (from ancestor who came over as a Puritan about 400 years ago, and an great-grandfather who came from England just over a 100 years ago, and a few others).

I am a proud polka-dotted person!

And part of the Red-Headed League! (with a few white hairs).

Oh, and I am Hispanic. I was born and lived a good portion of my youth in Central and South America (I even know that the national hero of colonial independence in Chile was O'Higgins!). ;)

[tkingdoll]

green eyed bloke



There is no doubting that you are green and that you have eyes. The 'bloke' bit, though, I'm not so sure about.

Evidence?

[wollery]

There is no doubting that you are green and that you have eyes. The 'bloke' bit, though, I'm not so sure about.

Evidence?It would be my pleasure.

Where and when? :p

[wollery]

(I even know that the national hero of colonial independence in Chile was O'Higgins!). ;)Bernardo O'Higgins to be precise!

What a great name! :D

[tkingdoll]

It would be my pleasure.

Where and when? :p

Well if it's only going to be your pleasure, I shall have to decline. :D

[brodski]

Well if it's only going to be your pleasure, I shall have to decline. :D
Well, you did ask for evidence that he was a "bloke", what did you expect, dinner first? :p

[wollery]

Well, you did ask for evidence that he was a "bloke", what did you expect, dinner first? :pI suppose I'd have to pay for that as well! ;)

[Jekyll]

I put White, considering that I'm Anglo-Saxon/German/British. :)



Sounds like someone is ashamed of their genetic heritage. :)

It's true.

I'm sorry to inform you that your Britishness has been revoked for some time now. We apologise for any inconvenience you might suffer while your ethnicity is in a transitional state, but your new social identity should be arriving shortly.

Toodle Pip!

[tkingdoll]

I suppose I'd have to pay for that as well! ;)


:jaw-dropp

[brodski]

I suppose I'd have to pay for that as well! ;)
Things not so say during sex number 238:
"you know, you're good enough at that to do it for a living" :eek:

[wollery]

Well that'll teach me to post without thinking about my phrasing! :blush:

[Hindmost]

Most of the time I feel as if I am from another planet...so I check "other"

Rewind time and there is a good chance every ethnic origin will find something disagreeable about their heritage.

glenn:boxedin:

https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/index.html

[LTC8K6]

Cop: "Were they colored?"

Fred: "Yeah, white."

[AmyWilson]

Are you proud of your genetic heritage?


Yes, I'm proud to be White. :)

What a superior and amazing gift. :) It's true.

[TragicMonkey]

I'm proud to be Betty White. :monkeyr:

What a superior and amazing gift. :mdance: It's true.

[LostAngeles]

Yes, I'm proud to be White. :)

What a superior and amazing gift. :) It's true.

I'm proud to be a mutt.

It gives me the gift of not thinking any skin color is superior or amazing.

It's true.

[brodski]

It gives me the gift of not thinking any skin color is superior or amazing.

I don't know, bright green would be pretty cool.

[LostAngeles]

I don't know, bright green would be pretty cool.

Don't be stupid. Colors like that are why we have hair.

[brodski]

Don't be stupid. Colors like that are why we have hair.
or face paints.

[Hydrogen Cyanide]

Yes, I'm proud to be White. :)

What a superior and amazing gift. :) It's true.

Oh, wow. I've done a bit of poking around in my genealogical past. I found out things that were totally opposite of what was told to us in our family history story telling. So much so, that my father did not believe me until I sent him the copies of the census forms (they showed that my grandparents were married over 20 years before my mother was born, the family story was that they waited to get married until my Grandfather was financially stable... but the records are different. There is a strong possibility that my mother was adopted, illegally).

Then there is the issue of my great-grandparents divorce... it seems that my great grandmother just decided to stop pretending, and wanted to just be with her girlfriend.

Proud... I don't know. But it is certainly much more interesting.

Oh, about the "white" part. I now know why it took my dear hubby at least two years to grow a real mustache. It seems that his grandmother was truly French-Canadian (did not speak English until she married her hubby who had emigrated from Denmark in his early 20's)... True French-Canadians are often mostly Canadian Aboriginal (Indian).

I am still not white but polka-dotted!

Is that white or polka-dotted with brown spots? (I scanned my arm... now I need to remember to clean the scanner! edited for clarity and a typo... there may be more, it is past bedtime)...

[emperorchaos]

Yes, I'm proud to be White. :)

What a superior and amazing gift. :) It's true.

Wow. Just wow. To think that you hold your skin color so highly is astounding.

But then, I live in the southeastern US, I guess I should be used to this kind of bigotry by now.

[Soapy Sam]

Actually, on British forms, I'd be quite happy to see an "Ethnic Scot" box.

tk- do you think of "Jewish" as a genetic heritage or a cultural one? (I know it's both, to some extent, but I'd go for the cultural label , myself. )

I seem to recall last time this was discussed here it was pretty obvious that even Jews are vague about what the word "Jewish" really means.

Muriel Gray made a documentary in which she travelled to Israel, having discovered she was ethnically entitled to call herself Jewish. She got to know numerous cousins, etc, and had a fine time, but at the end of the day decided if she had an ethnic label , it was "Scottish". I think if I made the same discovery tomorrow (harder for a bloke, I understand), my reaction would be the same.

Celt, maybe.

[ranson]

or face paints.

On first reading, I saw that as "face pants".

I gotta get some more coffee...

[brodski]

On first reading, I saw that as "face pants".

That works too.

[joesixpack]

Yes, I'm proud to be White. :)

What a superior and amazing gift. :) It's true.


So, let me get this straight, you're proud of something that you did nothing for?

The reason I ask is because I find that when people are proud of something they had nothing to do with, (ethnicity, for example) it's often because they have nothing to really be proud of. You know, actual ACHIEVEMENTS like getting a degree, holding down a job, starting a business, building something well, or creating some sort of soloution to a difficult problem. You see what I'm driving at here? White supremicists are generally underachievers. Have you actually DONE anything with the hand you've been dealt in life? Something you could take legitimate pride in? Besides being "white"?


I suspect not.

[cyborg]

I can't help but be reminded of this when I read AmyWilson's posts:

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=weekly_sub1

[ImaginalDisc]

Here's one for you. By parents were both born in Cuba, from essentially white castillian families. Today, my mother, my father and I all work for the same employer, the local school board. Due to pressures on the administration over both of them, at a certain time in the past, their ethnicity was quietly changed without their consent. Our employer's database says my father's now "Asian/Pacific islander", my mother's "Black", and I'm "Hispanic." Go figure.

Edit: Oh, great. I replied without actually reading through the thread far enough first, to find out that Amy's a white supremacist. Lovely. Tell me Amy, how do feel about the fact that the mutation responsible for white skin is only 10,000 years old? Oh wait, you belive in young earth creationism. Fine, I have a different question for you then. If Noah and his family were middle eastern jews, and they are the common ancestors of all humanity, only 4000 years ago, why do Samoans and Scandinavians look so different? Did they maybe...evolve to be different?

[ImaginalDisc]

Amy Wilson,

I asked you a question. Please answer it.

Tell me Amy, how do feel about the fact that the mutation responsible for white skin is only 10,000 years old? Oh wait, you belive in young earth creationism. Fine, I have a different question for you then. If Noah and his family were middle eastern jews, and they are the common ancestors of all humanity, only 4000 years ago, why do Samoans and Scandinavians look so different? Did they maybe...evolve to be different?

[Panelman]

The last census form did not have my minority on it so I checked other and wrote in my minority. Swedish american.:) 14

[Powa]

Why hasn't that f**k been banned yet? I'm reporting he/she/it.

[wollery]

Why hasn't that f**k been banned yet? I'm reporting he/she/it.For doing what?

[Powa]

For being a white supremacist?

[brodski]

For being a white supremacist?
that is not actually against the rules, remember direlect? and there have been worse than him in the past.

[wollery]

For being a white supremacist?
We have rules on this forum. Having an opinion on a topic that makes you generally reviled by most the rest of the forum isn't against any of them. Members of this forum make fun of, and are exasperated by, homeopathic and fundamentalist fora which ban people for holding opinions contrary to the majority of their members. Should we be hypocrites and ban someone for saying things we find distasteful? Freedom of speech requires that we hear distasteful opinions.

If AmyWilson is banned for anything other than actually breaking an existing rule I will be extremely angry and will lobby the mods for his/her reinstatement. We can't have double standards or we lose any right to call others on it.

[brodski]

We have rules on this forum. Having an opinion on a topic that makes you generally reviled by most the rest of the forum isn't against any of them. Members of this forum make fun of, and are exasperated by, homeopathic and fundamentalist fora which ban people for holding opinions contrary to the majority of their members. Should we be hypocrites and ban someone for saying things we find distasteful? Freedom of speech requires that we hear distasteful opinions.

If AmyWilson is banned for anything other than actually breaking an existing rule I will be extremely angry and will lobby the mods for his/her reinstatement. We can't have double standards or we lose any right to call others on it.
I agree absolutely, just look at what happened to Chipmunk Stew on the LC forum.
AmyWilson, I disagree with what you say, but will defend your right to say it, but why not just do everyone a favor and bugger off.

[Hydrogen Cyanide]

Why hasn't that f**k been banned yet? I'm reporting he/she/it.

No, you cannot be banned for being an unfunny idiotic twit, especially one that reinforces the general intellectual lack of the racist louts... and gives us some creative fodder for fun.

Oh, and I prefer "she/he/it" ... or its contraction "s/he/it".

It's Zoo Doo!
http://www.zoo.org/pressroom/pr/2006/images/zoodoo.jpg

[brodski]

you cannot be banned for being an unfunny idiotic twit, I am posting proof of that principle.

[De_Bunk]

Guys...

Every single one of AmyWilson's threads and posts are just to troll....Nothing more...nothing less...

Just look at all the titles..and subjects...

I mean...come on...

Its getting a bit silly now with people responding as if they actually believe AmyWilson truly thinks like that...

Its just an idiot troll...

DB

[The_Fire]

True...;)
But coming from a "white" european, I too am of the belief that AmyWilson are more than a can short of a sixpack in the knowledge department.
Besides, if I remember correctly, white skin are more suceptible to nasty things like skincancer. This is an evolutionary flaw and as such NOT a good thing. Besides as a christian "it's" big picture of comparison commonly known as Jesus of Nazareth weren't white. He was middleeastern which means that AmyWilson is promoting killing off the Saviours people.....I wonder how he and his highly volatile Daddy would react to that....

[Powa]

Wollery and brodski, I see your point. Thanks. I realize that freedom of speech is important. So s/he/it must be allowed to stay. Besides, let s/he/it spew racist crap so anybody can see what a fundamentalist rasist (or a troll) looks like.

[brodski]

Wollery and brodski, I see your point. Thanks. I realize that freedom of speech is important. So s/he/it must be allowed to stay. Besides, let s/he/it spew racist crap so anybody can see what a fundamentalist rasist (or a troll) looks like.
"freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots"

[Roadtoad]

Great. We already have that f***wit, Mayday, declaring that vaccinations are evil, and now we have this Amy Wilson trailer trash slut spewing hate.

I think the folks a Best Buy need to know about this b****, because it'll be a cold day in hell before I go back. At least until I know she's gone.

Here's something you should know, Amy, coming from a white trucker who doesn't live that far from you:

Being white is nothing to be proud of. It's simply a question of how much melanin you have in your skin. Putting any amount of pride in something so trivial demonstrates you are 1.) an idiot, 2.) a racist, 3.) a coward, 4.) not worth knowing or wasting time with. What makes someone worth knowing, what gives them anything to be proud of, is how they treat other people. Considering you treat other people like sh**, you have nothing to be proud of at all. If anything, you ought to be ashamed to even be drawing breath.

Quite frankly, the people on this board whom I am proud to know are folks like Lost Angeles, Suezoled, Terry, Complexity, Orangutano, Robert Lancaster, RandFan, Fowlsound, Scot Trypal, Chasing 23, and a whole host of others. To put it bluntly, any one of those folks, to quote from Steve McQueen's movie, Tom Horn, you'd have to stand on your mother's shoulders just to kiss their asses.

It's true, bitch.

[Eos of the Eons]

I think racism is clearly a bannable offence. We do not, will not, ever condone racism to that degree. This Amy Wilson delights in repeating racism over and over again. That breaches rule #2, and is clearly over the top objectionable content.

This type of behaviour is beyond even antivaccination comments, and you know that I do not take saying that lightly.

[Darat]

I've tried to split the thread so it can return to some form of near-normality. Fortunately we don't have rules against posting racist opinions on this forum; that should not be read that anyone on the Mod Team is endorsing any form of racism or that the JREF supports any form of racism but simply that we really do try to not restrict what garbage someone can post about a given topic.

I would suggest that if a racist like AmyWilson is annoying you put it on ignore. As an aside - I would also point out that this particular Member has been trying to find a subject that will provoke knee-jerk responses rather then discussion. AmyWilson tried religion, psychic powers and even sexual topics - all to no avail since Members seriously (or at least as seriously as we do) discussed some of the issues AmyWilson's questions/threads raised. However it appears that it has hit on a topic that will just provoke the vast number of the Membership here e.g. racism. I suggest the ignore feature (the software one or your own) is your best response to someone who isn't quite breaching the rules but is not interested in any form of debate or discussion.

[The_Fire]

*and fire's ignore list gets another entry.*

[Eos of the Eons]

Thank you Darat, and will take your advice!

[Roadtoad]

Ditto.

[Soapy Sam]

"...this Amy Wilson trailer trash..."

Roadtoad- Hey- you're the forum trailer expert.
I suspect this one has an air line loose.:D
Sounds empty , too.

Hey- check your PMs, would you?

[AmyWilson]

:) I woke up this morning and realized just how awesome and amazing it is to be a White Anglo-Saxon. What a magnificent Elite gift from God.

White people have created all civilization, science, space rockets, and everything that is beautiful and worthwhile in this world. :)

WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE!!

[LostAngeles]

:) I woke up this morning and realized just how awesome and amazing it is to be a White Anglo-Saxon. What a magnificent Elite gift from God.

White people have created all civilization, science, space rockets, and everything that is beautiful and worthwhile in this world. :)

WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE!!

Could you rattle off a more comprhensive list for us please? I'm rather curious to hear this. I also note that you've proffessed a strong Christian belief and most theologians are of the impression that Jesus would have most likely appeared to be Middle-eastern and not White as he's often portrayed in our culture, for example. Wouldn't Christianity and Christ's message not be a creation of White people but of Semitic people?

[AmyWilson]

Could you rattle off a more comprhensive list for us please? I'm rather curious to hear this. I also note that you've proffessed a strong Christian belief and most theologians are of the impression that Jesus would have most likely appeared to be Middle-eastern and not White as he's often portrayed in our culture, for example. Wouldn't Christianity and Christ's message not be a creation of White people but of Semitic people?

Jesus Christ was a blonde haired, blue eyed Anglo-Saxon White Man from Western Europe. :)

It's true. :)

[Hydrogen Cyanide]

Jesus Christ was a blonde haired, blue eyed Anglo-Saxon White Man from Western Europe. :)

It's true. :)

Evidence?

Even though he was born to a Jewish family in Nazareth?

Is this because his dad was actually Odin?

ETA: Uff da!

[LostAngeles]

Evidence?

Even though he was born to a Jewish family in Nazareth?

Is this because his dad was actually Odin?

ETA: Uff da!

I second this request for evidence and repeat my request for a better list of White accomplishments.

Thank you.

[TragicMonkey]

I second this request for evidence and repeat my request for a better list of White accomplishments.


Andrew Dickson White: founded Cornell University
Terence Hanbury White: wrote The Once And Future King
Elwyn Brooks White: wrote Charlotte's Web
Mrs White: killed Yvette. In the billiard room. With the rope.

[Genesius]

I think the folks a Best Buy need to know about this b****, because it'll be a cold day in hell before I go back. At least until I know she's gone.

I did that last week. Got a canned response from Best Buy saying "we're really busy so it'll be at least 5 days until someone can get back to you". Of course, the possibility of anything happening depends on AmyWilson having told the truth about her name, her birthdate, and her occupation.

[LostAngeles]

Andrew Dickson White: founded Cornell University
Terence Hanbury White: wrote The Once And Future King
Elwyn Brooks White: wrote Charlotte's Web
Mrs White: killed Yvette. In the billiard room. With the rope.

You forgot Mrs. White's incredible hotness.

Evasion noted.

[TragicMonkey]

You forgot Mrs. White's incredible hotness.

Evasion noted.

Mrs Peacock was where it's at.

[bluess]

Aw, c'mon folks. Miss Scarlet.

Especially as portrayed by Leslie Ann Warren in that killer green dress.

'Nuff said.

[Jon.]

???

I thought the murder victim was Mr. Boddy.

[bluess]

In the game, yes, and he's the first victim in the movie. However, the movie also kills off a few others (Yvette, the cop, the cook and the motorist). Oops, and the butler.

If you haven't seen it, definitely worth the rental. Make sure you get the version that has all three endings.

[Roadtoad]

The game is much more fun.

[SirPhilip]

Jesus Christ was a blonde haired, blue eyed Anglo-Saxon White Man from Western Europe. :)

It's true. :)At least he was honest about his gender. I doubt anyone even thinks you are female, more likely some bored 15 year old..

[LostAngeles]

Aw, c'mon folks. Miss Scarlet.

Especially as portrayed by Leslie Ann Warren in that killer green dress.

'Nuff said.

Two words! Madeline Kahn!

[TragicMonkey]

Two words! Madeline Kahn!

Three words! Eileen Brennan!

[LostAngeles]

Three words! Eileen Brennan!

Three more! Learn to Count!


:p

[Jorghnassen]

Three more! Learn to Count!



Hey! Leave the monkey alone! He might be a math major.

/there are 3 kinds of mathematicians

[bluess]

Madelaine Kahn's dress! Ooh, baby.

[TragicMonkey]

Hey! Leave the monkey alone! He might be a math major.

/there are 3 kinds of mathematicians

Five words! No way!

[TragicMonkey]

Three more! Learn to Count!

Four words! The concept of quantity is an abstraction! Explain it without citing specific numeric values! It's just a rational construct for describing the physical world!

[LostAngeles]

Four words! The concept of quantity is an abstraction! Explain it without citing specific numeric values! It's just a rational construct for describing the physical world!

In the event of my death from laughter, I've instructed my cats to sue your monkey ass.

[AmyWilson]

Edited for breach of Rule 4. Much of this post was plagiarised - I've left in the only part I could be certain was not plagiarised.

It's true. :)

[Powa]

AmyWilson I don't know your age, but from what I've seen so far, you look like you need a girlfriend*.


*I'm pretty sure AmyWilson is a pimple-faced teenage boy who has nothing better to do than to annoy people much smarter than him.