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TJ
7th April 2006, 08:32 AM
I don't know about you, but I very much enjoyed Fowlsound's contribution to this week's SWIFT, just as I enjoyed his original essay on the topic. For those who haven't done so already, do yourself a favor and read it. http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=49403

As much as Mr. Federlein disclaims his writing abilities, education, etc., you would not expect such a cogent, passionate, and well-written essay from him. Although David is very humble and self-depracating, the fact remains that he is a remakably intelligent, witty, sassy, sweet and talented guy. Don't let his humility fool you.

I feel very fortunate to have been able to hang out with him and his wife-to-be at TAM4, and I am very much looking forward to the same at TAM5.

David, I salute you. *bows*


This topic brought me to an interesting line of thought this morning, however. Throughout the recent years of my life, my nephew had leukemia, mom had skin cancer, dad had an inoperable cyst in the 3rd ventricle of his brain, and I may very well have a basal cell carcinoma on the back of my head (awaiting biopsy result).

I completely agree that the people selling what they know to be fraudulent 'treatments' are the lowest of the low, the likes of which only Sylvia Brown and John Edward can compare too. What bothers me nearly as much as the charlatans though, are the people who inadvertantly maintain the hope in these cures.

I can't really blame the people for sharing testimonials from there bridge partner's son-in-law's second cousin who had a friend that knew someone who was cured by acupuncture. Maybe it's human nature to gossip, maybe they just want to feel like they're helping, I don't know. I'm sure the intentions are good, but this pervasive rumor-mongering has made the alternative 'medicine' industry completely self-sustaining.

Most notably, the victims of whatever disease don't want to "limit their options", which also keeps the bunk alive and well.

I wish I had a solution, but it's going to be a long fight for us. I'm ready to fight, which brings me back to David Federlein. We may be able to do nothing on a grand scale, but fighting 4th and 5th-hand testimonials with real experiences, such as Fowlsound did here so wonderfully, is a real and very tangible tool that we can share with others to show them the truth.

Thank you, my friend. You continue to be an inspiration to me.

Kiless
7th April 2006, 08:41 AM
:) :) :) And Randi rejoins us too. Great way to end the week!

RSLancastr
7th April 2006, 11:29 AM
Way to go, Fowl!

Nicely written, my friend.

Ducky
7th April 2006, 12:08 PM
Aww shucks. Thanks :)

Santa666
7th April 2006, 01:20 PM
And I just thought you were an angry old grinch. I guess you can be on the "good" list.

For now.


Santa

Ducky
7th April 2006, 01:22 PM
I am an angry grinch. But I'm not old yet.

;)

kittynh
7th April 2006, 01:46 PM
Fowl, it was so neat to see your before and after photos together!

WOW!!!

I mean just WOW!!!

You are pretty cool, but your surgeons - they are VERY impressive!

Darat
7th April 2006, 01:50 PM
Tart!

I'm just waiting for his spine to feature on E!


;)

Ducky
7th April 2006, 01:50 PM
Fowl, it was so neat to see your before and after photos together!

WOW!!!

I mean just WOW!!!

You are pretty cool, but your surgeons - they are VERY impressive!



Yeah, the nuerosurgeon that did the operation had a team of his students on hand during the surgery (11 hours, I imagine he needed a break or two) but he is absolutely the most impressive doctor I have ever met. MD fro Harvard, PhD from MIT and 12 years of head of nuerosurgery in Pennsylvania before he came to Minnesota. He also is a very warm and caring nice man. My oncologist is also a great guy. Very nice and very knowledgeable. I am lucky.

The true heroes are my docs.

Ducky
7th April 2006, 01:51 PM
Tart!

I'm just waiting for his spine to feature on E!


;)


I'll settle for a "Behind the Music" after I get a major record deal...

Darat
7th April 2006, 01:59 PM
If that happens I hope treble gets a credit for what I bet will be the album cover!

Chris O.
7th April 2006, 02:04 PM
I was disappointed to find no mention whatsoever of asparagus. Nice work though.

Kelly
7th April 2006, 08:13 PM
Good work, David.

I went and glanced at the commentary today, and there you were!

Warmest regards,
Kelly

Orphia Nay
7th April 2006, 09:25 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Well done, fowlsound.
As always, it was well worth reading what you have written.

Wowbagger
7th April 2006, 09:38 PM
Cool commentary, fowlsound! Didn't say anything much I didn't already reckon. But, It makes for a great, emotionally-driven "beginner's guide" to avoiding "alternative" procedures. It gives me something else to shove into the face of some gullible folks I know.

Metullus
7th April 2006, 10:17 PM
Very nice bit, fowlsound, and reasonably well speeled two, but couldn't you work chickens in there somewhere?

Hawk one
8th April 2006, 08:26 AM
Fowl: I liked the original paper better, because a) I gave you some minor editing tips on that, and b) You didn't have to hold back linguistically when trying to describe your disgust with the snake oil quacks.

But hey, getting it put up on Randi's very own commentary page is still damn cool. Way to go. :cool:

Luciana
8th April 2006, 09:40 AM
Man, I read the thread title fast, and what I saw was "fowlsound in the cemetary!" and my heart skipped a beat. Geez, I'm still recovering.

I'll read the commentary now. :)

delphi_ote
8th April 2006, 09:54 AM
Nicely written, fowlsound. I had no idea you could be so polite and eloquent. I linked all my friends to your article. It's that good!

Also, you wrote over a hundred words without even mentioning boobies once! Congratulations. :D

Diamond
8th April 2006, 11:22 AM
It's amazing how few swear words FS can manage if he really tried.

Hindmost
8th April 2006, 12:15 PM
I keep thinking about what would happen if Fowlsound didn't follow science. It is so incredibly irritating that people would promote alternative medicine. It truly kills and no one cares--except us skeptics.

Here's looking forward to decades of Fowlsound's "colorful" posts.

glenn:)

tkingdoll
8th April 2006, 01:29 PM
No asparagus, chickens, boobies OR flaps.

What's the world coming to?

APART from those glaring omissions, a great article. Nice one beardy.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
8th April 2006, 04:29 PM
Please let's get this thread back on track.

Luciana
8th April 2006, 04:46 PM
Back on track!

Great article, fowlsound. If I can't call it a page-turner, then... well, it's a scroll-downer. :)

Ducky
8th April 2006, 04:48 PM
Back on track!

Great article, fowlsound. If I can't call it a page-turner, then... well, it's a scroll-downer. :)


Thanks :)

Boo
8th April 2006, 10:09 PM
*hugs fowlsound and gently pats him on the back*


You rock!


Boo

athon
9th April 2006, 05:52 AM
You now belong to an elite class, Fowl.

Come over here and I'll teach you the secret handshake. You can also sit in a comfy lounge, just for we 'special' people, and get served martinis by skepchicks in skimpy clothes. At least that's what Hal promised me.

Um, Hal? Yeah...I'm still waiting for my martini...

Athon

Kiless
9th April 2006, 08:06 AM
I think the Australian equivalent of what Hal promised is a XXXX beer and a barmaid called Sheila who resembles a St Bernard. :(

But well done and looking forward to more. :)

Patricio Elicer
9th April 2006, 01:36 PM
Well done, Fowl.

I'm impressed by the clarity of your thoughts and your writing skills.

Hope you will not be that busy at TAM5 with the d*mn interviews (kidding!), so I can hang out with you a bit more.

Ducky
9th April 2006, 01:49 PM
Well done, Fowl.

I'm impressed by the clarity of your thoughts and your writing skills.

Hope you will not be that busy at TAM5 with the d*mn interviews (kidding!), so I can hang out with you a bit more.



I think (if skepticality is even going to continue, there hasn't been a lull in episodes this long ever) Derek and Swoopy can do their own interviews next year so I can just enjoy more time at the presentations and with forum members.

:)

delphi_ote
9th April 2006, 06:03 PM
I think (if skepticality is even going to continue, there hasn't been a lull in episodes this long ever) Derek and Swoopy can do their own interviews next year so I can just enjoy more time at the presentations and with forum members.

:)
Let's all get wasted and then head to Circus Circus and play carnival games!

HeyLeroy
10th April 2006, 11:18 AM
Great job, Fowlsound!