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woodwater
11th April 2006, 08:48 AM
what about crop circles?
please dont tell me they were made overnight by humans. thats impossible. look at them from the top. IMPOSSIBLE:cool:

Kochanski
11th April 2006, 08:53 AM
Here is a good place to go for your answer: http://skepdic.com/cropcirc.html

Mojo
11th April 2006, 08:54 AM
They were made overnight by humans.

At least the earlier ones were.

It has been suggested that some of the later ones may have been made by particularly feeble-minded aliens who saw the earlier man-made ones and thought it was a pretty neat idea.

Arkan_Wolfshade
11th April 2006, 08:56 AM
They were made overnight by humans.

At least the earlier ones were.

It has been suggested that some of the later ones may have been made by particularly feeble-minded aliens who saw the earlier man-made ones and thought it was a pretty neat idea..

What Mojo said.

ETA: argument to incredulity

Nick Bogaerts
11th April 2006, 08:59 AM
Absolutely. Especially the Weetabix one. We now have indubitable proof that Weetabix Ltd., purveyor of breakfast cereals to H.M. the Queen Elisabeth II, is colluding with space aliens.

Hindmost
11th April 2006, 09:01 AM
and look here too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crop_circles

glenn

headscratcher4
11th April 2006, 09:07 AM
Like Teflon and Tang, human beings would be entirely incapable of creating crop circles without alien support and encouragement. But, keep in mind that the aliens are among us. Several are heads of major television networks, and many here in the US are convinced that Dick Cheney is an Alien.

Also keep in mind that many aliens look like they are human and
in crop-circle season, they are able to slow time down so that they can produce the elaborate designs in just a few hours. That's how it is done.

Its true.

I less than three logic
11th April 2006, 09:12 AM
If I were capable of interstellar travel, crop circles would definitely be the form of communication I would use with other intelligent life on other planets.

In fact, I say that if we are ever capable of traveling to another planet with intelligent life, we absolutely must create crop circles on their planet for a few years. I say we created a worldwide treaty to ensure that anyone that makes it to such a planet has to make crop circles. I’m sure every country in the world would sign it. :D

vbloke
11th April 2006, 09:28 AM
*ahem*

http://www.circlemakers.org/

woodwater
11th April 2006, 09:39 AM
vikipedia tells it all,thanks for the humour.:D

Belz...
11th April 2006, 10:11 AM
what about crop circles?
please dont tell me they were made overnight by humans. thats impossible. look at them from the top. IMPOSSIBLE:cool:

"Look, I can't bring myself to accept facts, so it MUST be impossible."

ETA: Hopefully you were sarcastic.

drfrank
11th April 2006, 10:23 AM
I saw a recent programme featuring Danny Wallace (hoax files) that actually had an interview with the two original guys who did crop circles (well the one that's still alive). Apparently it was what these two guys did on Friday night when drunk - on some of the patterns shown the straight lines were distinctly skewiff, perhaps testament to a little too much that night: a far cry from the `impossibly perfect' geometry some people claim.

A quick review (http://www.forteantimes.com/review/hoax_files.shtml)

They even went into a field and did a little crop circle to demonstrate, which was quite fun.

ChristineR
11th April 2006, 10:31 AM
Some of them were designed by artists and took teams of humans several days to make. You can identify these by the landowner charging admission to see them. Normal crop circles are identified by landowners drunk humans out of their fields in the night.

Bronze Dog
11th April 2006, 10:38 AM
what about crop circles?
please dont tell me they were made overnight by humans. thats impossible. look at them from the top. IMPOSSIBLE:cool:
That strikes me as a rather racist attitude. It's simple geometry.

Luke T.
11th April 2006, 11:07 AM
Crop circles are soooo passé (http://www.oregonuforeview.com/icecircles.html)

Hawk one
11th April 2006, 11:20 AM
woodwater, consider the other things mankind are capable of. We can build skyskrapers more than 500 metres high, we can send manned expeditions to the moon, we can even construct a satelite to crash with a comet and then pick up some of the stuff there, before returning back to earth...

And yet we're incapable of understanding and executing how to make patterns in a corn field?

strathmeyer
11th April 2006, 11:22 AM
please dont tell me they were made overnight by humans. thats impossible. look at them from the top. IMPOSSIBLE:cool:

The pyramids were still made by aliens, right?

Belz...
11th April 2006, 01:12 PM
woodwater, consider the other things mankind are capable of. We can build skyskrapers more than 500 metres high, we can send manned expeditions to the moon, we can even construct a satelite to crash with a comet and then pick up some of the stuff there, before returning back to earth...

And yet we're incapable of understanding and executing how to make patterns in a corn field?

Woah! What the hell happened to your avatar, man ?

J. Arthur Hastur
11th April 2006, 01:15 PM
It's intensely interesting that the hoaxers admitted to making crop circles, the hoaxers were caught in the act of making crop circles, others tested the hoaxers methods and recreated even the most complex crop circles in a few hours time, and yet it's still debated. Why?

What about the human mind makes us want to be fooled, by even the mosty obvious chicanery?

westphalia
11th April 2006, 01:40 PM
This reminds me of what some of us were discussing on another thread. Humans can't do this and can't do that. Can't build a pyramid without aliens. Can't chart the courses of the stars without aliens. Can't possibly cross an ocean in an boat and do some mapping without aliens. Can't make big pictographs on the ground without aliens. Can't invent new technology without aliens.

Come on.

headscratcher4
11th April 2006, 01:44 PM
When I was in college, a live Cow was introduced to a Dean's office one night. In spite of the claims of one of the campus fraternaties that they were behind this remarkable event, I am pretty sure that aliens were somehow involved.

Luke T.
11th April 2006, 01:47 PM
This reminds me of what some of us were discussing on another thread. Humans can't do this and can't do that. Can't build a pyramid without aliens. Can't chart the courses of the stars without aliens. Can't possibly cross an ocean in an boat and do some mapping without aliens. Can't make big pictographs on the ground without aliens. Can't invent new technology without aliens.

Come on.

George Bush couldn't have been made and become President without alien intervention.

headscratcher4
11th April 2006, 01:48 PM
George Bush couldn't have been made and become President without alien intervention.

Why do you hate aliens and America?

scotth
11th April 2006, 01:51 PM
Why do you hate aliens and America?

A better question, why do you think aliens hate America?

headscratcher4
11th April 2006, 01:52 PM
A better question, why do you think aliens hate America?

Because aliens obviously hate freedom.

scotth
11th April 2006, 01:54 PM
Because aliens obviously hate freedom.

Ah..... that explains why they are attacking the Netherlands all the time, then. Thanks for clearing that up for me.:D

senorpogo
11th April 2006, 02:02 PM
If I were capable of interstellar travel, crop circles would definitely be the form of communication I would use with other intelligent life on other planets.

In fact, I say that if we are ever capable of traveling to another planet with intelligent life, we absolutely must create crop circles on their planet for a few years. I say we created a worldwide treaty to ensure that anyone that makes it to such a planet has to make crop circles. I’m sure every country in the world would sign it. :D

Carl Sagan suggested the same thing.
And don't just consider the countless man hours and billions of dollars to achieve interstellar flight. Remember all the additional resources put into radio astronomy to even find another world with sentient life. After all that work, the ONLY logical way to communicate with new alien life would be through crop circles.

I, for one, also support random probing of the new alien life.

headscratcher4
11th April 2006, 02:10 PM
Ah..... that explains why they are attacking the Netherlands all the time, then. Thanks for clearing that up for me.:D

No, they attack the Neatherlands because the also hate Harring...actually, they hate harring more than they hate freedom.

Complexity
11th April 2006, 02:12 PM
George Bush couldn't have been made and become President without alien intervention.
Really evil aliens who have found the perfect tool for our destruction.

They Live.

scotth
11th April 2006, 02:16 PM
No, they attack the Neatherlands because the also hate Harring...actually, they hate harring more than they hate freedom.

Would would I do without you, headscratcher? You're just setting me straight at every turn.

What is harring by the way?

headscratcher4
11th April 2006, 02:20 PM
Would would I do without you, headscratcher? You're just setting me straight at every turn.

What is harring by the way?

Indeed.

Hindmost
11th April 2006, 02:32 PM
If I were capable of interstellar travel, crop circles would definitely be the form of communication I would use with other intelligent life on other planets.

In fact, I say that if we are ever capable of traveling to another planet with intelligent life, we absolutely must create crop circles on their planet for a few years. I say we created a worldwide treaty to ensure that anyone that makes it to such a planet has to make crop circles. I’m sure every country in the world would sign it. :D

I was actually on NASA's crop circle design team. I got kicked off because my circles kept looking like squares.

glenn:rolleyes:

Bronze Dog
11th April 2006, 02:45 PM
This reminds me of what some of us were discussing on another thread. Humans can't do this and can't do that. Can't build a pyramid without aliens. Can't chart the courses of the stars without aliens. Can't possibly cross an ocean in an boat and do some mapping without aliens. Can't make big pictographs on the ground without aliens. Can't invent new technology without aliens.

Come on.
I wonder if people like woodwater are projecting their own lack of skill and imagination onto the rest of humanity when they claim things like this.

I less than three logic
11th April 2006, 03:09 PM
I don’t know… have you seen this velcro stuff? I mean, little plastic hooks and fuzzy fabric that somehow manage to get stuck together! You make it stick together and pull them apart so easily. There’s no way mere humans could have thought of that. This is obviously irrefutable evidence that we’ve been visited by vastly more intelligent alien life. :wink:

RayG
11th April 2006, 03:12 PM
what about crop circles?
please dont tell me they were made overnight by humans. thats impossible. look at them from the top. IMPOSSIBLE:cool:

He who has seen little marvels much -- Chinese Proverb

RayG

Bronze Dog
11th April 2006, 03:17 PM
He who has seen little marvels much -- Chinese Proverb

RayG
That's a keeper!

Gravy
11th April 2006, 03:19 PM
'Zat you, Woodwater? (http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/0511/crop_circle_complaint.mp3)

(Warning: audio rant, lots of profanity)

BenK
11th April 2006, 03:42 PM
'Zat you, Woodwater? (http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/0511/crop_circle_complaint.mp3)

(Warning: audio rant, lots of profanity)


Can you imagine how badly that guy's phone must be soaked with spittle? :gasp:

Bronze Dog
11th April 2006, 04:20 PM
'Zat you, Woodwater? (http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/0511/crop_circle_complaint.mp3)

(Warning: audio rant, lots of profanity)
And that's about as smart as crop-circles-are-made-by-aliens defenders get, at least in my experience.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
11th April 2006, 04:30 PM
Some of them might take more than one night to make. Do you think the farmer is not in cahoots with the circle maker?

~~ Paul

Bronze Dog
11th April 2006, 04:33 PM
Circle maker: "Hey, we're going to dink around in your fields, and destroy a few crops, but you'll enjoy a great deal of popularity and can sell lots of tickets to the gullible without having to do a single thing."
Farmer: "Heckz yeah!"

Gr8wight
11th April 2006, 05:42 PM
'Zat you, Woodwater? (http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/KF/0511/crop_circle_complaint.mp3)

(Warning: audio rant, lots of profanity)

That was Ben Stiller, wasn't it? ;)

hellaeon
11th April 2006, 05:57 PM
lol funny audio

Metullus
11th April 2006, 06:32 PM
Some rant! I sure believe now!

Zep
11th April 2006, 10:50 PM
Y'know, he didn't finish one f**king sentence!

logical muse
11th April 2006, 10:55 PM
I'm impressed with writer/director M. Night Shyamalan. He got those pesky aliens to make him some crop circles for that movie Signs (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0286106/).

Inrterestingly, though, he didn't mention them in the credits.

Hawk one
12th April 2006, 01:53 AM
Woah! What the hell happened to your avatar, man ?Well, you know how we've got the new copyright rule in and all? Well, even though I'd probably be safe (It is a publically published picture, and I'm not talking about being put up on the internet. And the mods aren't going to go avatarhunting anyway.), I felt that I should make something on my own anyway.

Pity I have absolutely no drawing skills whatsoever, right?


And no, it's not a mockery of the "new" rules or anything like that. At worst, it's mocking myself for being such a crappy drawer.

Beady
12th April 2006, 03:12 AM
I wonder if people like woodwater are projecting their own lack of skill and imagination onto the rest of humanity when they claim things like this.

Either that, or they have some major self-esteem issues.

ond_magiker
12th April 2006, 03:30 AM
I thought the crop cirle debate was settled ages ago. Those two British chaps admitted it was them that did it. If I recall correctly, they claimed being under alien mind control and used a length of rope and a piece of wood to summon plasma vortices which would create the circles.

Spidey13
12th April 2006, 07:01 AM
Well, you know how we've got the new copyright rule in and all? Well, even though I'd probably be safe (It is a publically published picture, and I'm not talking about being put up on the internet. And the mods aren't going to go avatarhunting anyway.), I felt that I should make something on my own anyway.

Pity I have absolutely no drawing skills whatsoever, right?


And no, it's not a mockery of the "new" rules or anything like that. At worst, it's mocking myself for being such a crappy drawer.

Well, I'm keeping mine! Let DC sue me!

Belz...
12th April 2006, 10:13 AM
Well, you know how we've got the new copyright rule in and all? Well, even though I'd probably be safe (It is a publically published picture, and I'm not talking about being put up on the internet. And the mods aren't going to go avatarhunting anyway.), I felt that I should make something on my own anyway.

Well, I don't know about those copyright rules. I don't know if my avatar is OK but it was publicly shown on a web site. Oh well. Hopefully they'll warn me, first.

tsg
12th April 2006, 10:43 AM
Well, I don't know about those copyright rules. I don't know if my avatar is OK but it was publicly shown on a web site. Oh well. Hopefully they'll warn me, first.

I'm pretty sure the copyright on mine has lapsed....

tsg
12th April 2006, 10:45 AM
Crop circles are soooo passé (http://www.oregonuforeview.com/icecircles.html)

The aliens want to play hockey now?

TjW
12th April 2006, 10:07 PM
The aliens want to play hockey now?
No, they're just being a bunch of ice holes.

Hawk one
13th April 2006, 03:03 AM
Well, I don't know about those copyright rules. I don't know if my avatar is OK but it was publicly shown on a web site. Oh well. Hopefully they'll warn me, first.
So, what do you think of my new avatar then?

Better than the last one? :p

Belz...
13th April 2006, 05:55 AM
So, what do you think of my new avatar then?

Better than the last one? :p

Er... s... s... sure, Hawk. R... real n....

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SPQR
13th April 2006, 03:52 PM
I, for one, also support random probing of the new alien life.

We also have to make sure we erase the aliens' memories well enough so that they do not remember that they were abducted.

And hope that the aliens don't have psychiatrists that specialize in memory regression. Otherewise, were screwed.