For loose change, post your chair! [Archive]

drfrank

11th April 2006, 12:37 PM

Ha, that's just what they want you to think :rolleyes:

The truth is that the `white chair', as you call it, is merely the projection into our Universe of a pandimensional murderous alien being, which has surreptitiously masterminded most of the evil acts in human history.

It is obvious that the alien must be highly dimensional, else it wouldn't be able to be observed in as many locations simultaneously (in our limited perception).

pipelineaudio

11th April 2006, 12:39 PM

Ahh quantum mechaincs then ? :)

J. Arthur Hastur

11th April 2006, 12:39 PM

Forget the chair, how much for the car?

kookbreaker

11th April 2006, 12:43 PM

Ahh quantum mechaincs then ? :)

No, its The Winslow. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winslow)

pipelineaudio

11th April 2006, 12:50 PM

Forget the chair, how much for the car?

Ahh speaking of general hysterics!!!

not long ago, you could have pretty decent dusters and demons for 500 bucks

5000 for a REALLY nice one (not getting silly with race cars)

Now thanks to this stupid Barret Jackson auction, collectors with NO intentions of ever driving the cars have jacked the prices up

Some idiot collector offered me 30,000 dollars for my car last saturday at a cruise!

I was flabbergasted. Yes inside it has a 10k$ motor, another 15k$ worth of fuel injection, instrumentation, and computer junk, and then a gajillion on cage,suspension and chasis. But this guy just wanted "any mopar"!!! I am on the hunt for some beater (yes even more dented than mine) 500 dollar duster to take out next saturday and sell to these loonies...

I can't believe this mania

Price a Chevelle lately??? YEESH end the national debt

J. Arthur Hastur

11th April 2006, 01:01 PM

Supply and demand. It used to rare for anyone to keep an old muscle car, I mean you could pick them up anywhere, and so many of them were scrapped and/or just rusted away, so that now, they are rare. It's all a cycle.

I have looked, and I have no white chairs at all :(

kookbreaker

11th April 2006, 01:15 PM

not long ago, you could have pretty decent dusters and demons for 500 bucks

Ah, so you're the one who bought my Parent's Duster.

Luke T.

11th April 2006, 01:49 PM

My chair is green and therefore passive.

kookbreaker

11th April 2006, 02:01 PM

Aren't those white chair like coathangers? Breed like rabbits under the right conditions? (WalMart, Trailer Parks, etc.)

Gravy

11th April 2006, 02:12 PM

Aah, poor Nick Berg. I once had a conversation with a guy in a bar that went like this:
Guy: "And that Nick Berg guy, the U.S. faked that video."
"What do you mean?
"Don't you find it even a little bit suspicious that the guy in that video was wearing orange overalls, just like the Iraqi prisioners wear?
"I think that's the point the captors were trying to make. How do you explain the fact that Berg's body and head were found?"
Silence.
"His family got the body back. The funeral was yesterday."
Silence.
"Are you saying that the U.S. expertly faked a video of Berg being beheaded AND also beheaded Berg?"
Silence.
"Bartender, I'll have another. What do you have that's stronger?"

11th April 2006, 02:18 PM

Mine are just like that, only they are green instead of white. Easier to not see all the cedar pollen. (My deck turns bright green that time of year.)

brodski

11th April 2006, 02:22 PM

My parents have some chairs like that, and they live in the North west of England. JUST HOW FAR DOES THIS CONSPIRACY REACH???? ;)

Bronze Dog

11th April 2006, 02:39 PM

Aren't those white chair like coathangers? Breed like rabbits under the right conditions? (WalMart, Trailer Parks, etc.)
Apparently none of my closets ever had those conditions.

Hellbound

11th April 2006, 02:41 PM

Wanna hear somethign really freaky?

My parents had two chairs like that, and a matching table.

A big storm came through, lightning, rain, even a tornado.

The next morning, the chairs were gone. I tell you, it's like they knew what was coming and vacated the area!

More evidence:

The insurance company came by to assess the damage, and simply accepted our word when we told them the chairs were missing. I think they're in on it. They didn't question because thier chair-shaped lackeys had already reported in.

hurdygurdy

11th April 2006, 02:45 PM

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2135&st=30&#entry3280613
Great so you realize said chair was a chair from america and that middle easterners don't have the same kind of products we do. Glad you're waking up.
No

Mine says "Made in China"

Priceless!

Hellbound

11th April 2006, 02:53 PM

On a serious note, I'd like to add that that style of chair is VERY popular in Iraq, for several reasons:

1) They're cheap. When your income is on the order of $5 a week, a $3 plastic chair is a seat of honor.

2) We brought a bunch with us. They were already being sold there, but many, many, many military units took some of these with them or had them shipped over. Why? They're cheap, and lightweight (lower shipping costs). Many fo these "wandered" outside our bases and camps.

3) American goods are not unknown over there. They do have many of the same products we do (but not all). A lot of knock-offs, as well.

Hagrok

11th April 2006, 02:53 PM

Somebody with talent should photoshop one of those chairs onto the grassy knoll...

Hellbound

11th April 2006, 02:54 PM

Somebody with talent should photoshop one of those chairs onto the grassy knoll...

Weilding a clearly labelled "Magic Bullet Shooter" :D

Nyarlathotep

11th April 2006, 03:01 PM

My parents have some chairs like that, and they live in the North west of England. JUST HOW FAR DOES THIS CONSPIRACY REACH???? ;)

I don't have any chairs like that. But the Tae Kwon Do school my daughter goes to has about a dozen, for the parents to sit in, while they wait. So it reaches at least from Northern Nevada to Northwest England to Iraq. It has tentacles everywhere....

Gravy

11th April 2006, 03:03 PM

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2135&st=30&#entry3280613

Oh, why do I punish myself by following these links? It's not as if I need more proof that these are the stupidest people on earth. What is the sick fascination I have?

Will someone who isn't banned PLEASE ask them how, if the video was faked, Nick Berg's parents wound up burying the severed head and body of their son?

Manny

11th April 2006, 03:04 PM

Aren't those white chair like coathangers? Breed like rabbits under the right conditions? (WalMart, Trailer Parks, etc.)In fact, I believe that they are predators to the creatures from "Or All The Seas With Oysters."

thatguywhojuggles

11th April 2006, 03:06 PM

I'm confused, and don't understand what all the talk is about white chairs. However, I do have two things to say about those white plastic chairs. One, I can juggle 3 of them, and two, once I sat in one and the darn thing colapsed under me, leaving me sitting flat on the floor (still in the chair), the legs broken off clean.

Yes, I'm a big guy.

J. Arthur Hastur

11th April 2006, 03:10 PM

Don't you fools realize, there is only one chair like that in the enrire world! AND IT'S IN ABU GHRAIB!!!

Boy, if ignorance is bliss, these people are ecstatic!

conspiracybeliever

11th April 2006, 03:14 PM

Here is the complete, non-cherry-picked thread in question. :D

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2135

"I certainly would need to be convinced it [the decapitation video] was authentic," Dr John Simpson, executive director for surgical affairs at the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons, said from New Zealand. Echoing Dr Simpson's criticism, when this journalist asked forensic death expert Jon Nordby, PhD and fellow of the American Board of Medicolegal Death Investigators, whether he believed the Berg decapitation video had been "staged", Nordby replied: "Yes, I think that's the best explanation of it." ...."I would have thought that all the people in the vicinity would have been covered in blood, in a matter of seconds ... if it was genuine," said Simpson. Notably, the act's perpetrators appeared far from so. And separately Nordby observed: "I think that by the time they're ... on his head, he's already dead."

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/FE22Ak03.html

case sensitive

11th April 2006, 03:19 PM

I´ve had chairs like that. Crappy conspiracy chairs... I hate 'em so much!

conspiracybeliever

11th April 2006, 03:23 PM

DId you happen to work nextdoor to Abu Ghraib, as well?

After his release, Berg travelled to Baghdad and the $30-a-night Al-Fanar Hotel. A fellow hotel guest told Newsday that Berg recounted how Iraqi police had quickly handed him to US authorities in Mosul and that he had been held the entire time in a jail where his guards were US soldiers.

Berg was in Baghdad to win contracts for his family firm, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, a provider of communications facilities. He often "worked at night on a tower in the neighbourhood of Abu Ghraib", according to The New York Times.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/28/1085641717320.html

Or maybe you lent your email account to one of the alleged 9/11 hijackers?

Government sources told CNN that the encounter involved an acquaintance of Zacarias Moussaoui -- the only person publicly charged in the United States in connection with the September 11, 2001, terror attacks.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/05/13/berg.encounter/

Gravy

11th April 2006, 03:32 PM

"I would have thought that all the people in the vicinity would have been covered in blood, in a matter of seconds ... if it was genuine,"

WAHAHAHAHAHA!

Best laugh of the day, next to that post by the LC mod explainiing what their policies are. (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1565506&postcount=1169)

Remember, folks, "conspiracybeliever" is the cowardly Roxdog. Just check his posts on here or on LC if you want a chuckle.

(edited to include link)

conspiracybeliever

11th April 2006, 03:34 PM

hurdygurdy

11th April 2006, 03:38 PM

Hey Roxdog, before you go running, could you show me some more texts from Dr. Raul Castro Guevara?

Nyarlathotep

11th April 2006, 03:48 PM

DId you happen to work nextdoor to Abu Ghraib, as well?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/05/28/1085641717320.html

Gasp! Nick Berg wworked in Iraq! What are the odds he would be captured there?!?!?!?

Zep

11th April 2006, 11:12 PM

My parents have some chairs like that, and they live in the North west of England. JUST HOW FAR DOES THIS CONSPIRACY REACH???? ;)Australia. We have 8 of them, white AND green. I have a big back yard, so they obviously started a family out there. Although I haven't seen any chair-kittens yet...

The_Fire

11th April 2006, 11:26 PM

Denmark. My parents got 4.......

hellaeon

12th April 2006, 01:01 AM

Please, Please...PLEASE tell me this latest conspiracy theory is ...uhhhh...oh man.....I seriously feel nausia....

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

:jaw-dropp

*shakes head*

Harlequin

12th April 2006, 02:02 AM

I've got about 20 of these chairs, but the big news is that I've actually got some of the kittens too!

I'll see if I can post a picture.

kookbreaker

12th April 2006, 06:13 AM

I note that the thread on LC (why do I keep looking, its like a train wreck) has become a free-range conspiracy loon-fest. They've got the USS Liberty and Depleted Uranium rants going there. The Quest could use a few physics lessons.

pipelineaudio

12th April 2006, 07:55 PM

pics dagnabbit!!!!
Theyll never believe us if we dont have the pics of the chairs for proof

Dr Adequate

12th April 2006, 08:09 PM

I saw the White Plastic Chair on a design program on tv a few weeks ago. Apparently it's the commonest chair in the world.

This design magazine concurs (http://www.icon-magazine.co.uk/issues/022/front_text.htm)

Oddly, no-one knows who designed it.

Dr Adequate

12th April 2006, 08:14 PM

More on the WPC (http://www.smithsonianmagazine.com/issues/2004/july/seat.php?page=1)

More on plastic chairs (http://www.functionalfate.org/archives/2004/09/)

Orphia Nay

13th April 2006, 10:59 PM

Here are two old ones in our back yard, and look at them!! They're still breeding like rabbits!

Orphia Nay

13th April 2006, 11:08 PM

I forgot to add that those two going at it are in Australia.

pipelineaudio

13th April 2006, 11:38 PM

Alright, so we have photographic evidence of at least four WPC's from two continents

Comeon LC guys debunk our WPC's!

brodski

14th April 2006, 01:45 AM

Here are two old ones in our back yard, and look at them!! They're still breeding like rabbits!

That's obscene, I've half a mind to report you for breach of rule 8.
Hot chair on chair pron is not allowed on this forum. :p

Zep

14th April 2006, 03:07 AM

Woo hoo! I have a REALLY blurry pic of a chair-kitten now! I'll post it tomorrow! I'll try to get a video too...but they're damned elusive, and the parents protect them fiercely!

Amazing but true: They're born blue, but turn white or green as they mature... Ain't nature wonderful? :)

Euromutt

14th April 2006, 03:48 AM

For what it's worth, I watched the Berg decapitation video at the time, and I thought it didn't look right. To my mind, it was edited to look as if it were all a single take, but I suspected that, in actual fact, what was decapitated was Berg's corpse. I'm speculating here, but I'd suspect he was killed off-camera, possibly by having his throat cut (it's no huge challenge finding an Arab who can skillfully slit a throat, given the ritual slaughtering of a goat or sheep at Eid), and the half hour of sawing away at the neck with a knife until his head finally came loose was edited out, or simply not filmed at all.

So what does this prove? Not much. I would surmise that the video was intended to function as a piece of propaganda by showing among others that Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, purportedly the guy wielding the knife, is so strong and skilled with a blade that he can decapitate a struggling prisoner in under a minute using nothing larger than a knife. So that's a fabrication, which is no big surprise, and I'd wager the guy with the knife isn't actually al-Zarqawi either. But that doesn't prove that Berg wasn't kidnapped and murdered by elements of the insurgency, most likely non-Iraqi jihadists.

The lawn chair proves naff-all. Cheap, plastic, thirteen-to-the-dozen, made in China lawn chair, found in shops all over the Middle East, and in fact all over the world, as this thread demonstrates. Who says the one in Abu Ghraib was brought there by the Americans anyway? The Americans didn't build Abu Ghraib, and they weren't the first to operate it, so what reason is there to assume that the chair hadn't been left behind by the prison's previous occupants?

aggle-rithm

14th April 2006, 11:08 AM

Obviously the US military killed nick berg, as they had the same white chair as in Abu Ghraib

please post pics of your amazingly the same white chair here

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/pipelineaudio/DSC00002.jpg

and

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/pipelineaudio/DSC00001.jpg

Oh, my god...

I've got two of those in my back yard!

Wait a minute.... what's my dog been up to!!?

pipelineaudio

14th April 2006, 07:19 PM

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/pipelineaudio/DSC00011.jpg

Alright, now this is getting scary

I awoke today to see the WPC with a bunch of dried up black paint and a roller and roller screen on it

pipelineaudio

14th April 2006, 07:22 PM

Even more suspicious, I turn around and look at my car, it doesnt look quite as it did in the original pic!!!

Something strange happened, cant quite put my finger on it

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g45/pipelineaudio/DSC00008.jpg

Meffy

14th April 2006, 08:03 PM

I forgot to add that those two going at it are in Australia.
Oh? Then why aren't they upside down?

[edit] I have two chairs like that -- both are very aged and weathered though, not so much white any longer as... um, grayish. Photos if requested but they're not convincingly conspiratorial.

Orphia Nay

15th April 2006, 12:14 AM

pipelineaudio,
What have they got against red-roofed cars???
Or is it some kind of thought-ray-conducting paint that 'the powers that be' use to track dissenters? You have been 'marked' by the beasts!!! :jaw-dropp

Meffy,
I had to turn the picture 'upside down' before posting it for benefit of the majority of posters. :)

Zep

15th April 2006, 02:11 AM

Here's a chair-kitten, caught hiding behind the old bath-tub in my back yard. This is a new one - it's still yellow.

Orphia Nay

15th April 2006, 02:14 AM

Awwwww... how cute!

Kill it! Kill it!

Zep

15th April 2006, 02:29 AM

More seriously, I've seen a few different snuff-videos of decapitations now, including one from Serbia, and another from Kosovo. In all of them, the victim was most definitely alive at the time - one was still shreiking as his throat was being cut (that was really freaking dreadful to watch :(). I might point out that I did not choose to watch them - one of the now-banned pests on this forum sent them to me.

So while it may be true that a suddenly decapitated person (like with a samurai sword) will indeed have blood spurting "like a fountain", the slower process of cutting the throat and then hacking with a kitchen knife to remove the head does tend to preclude that situation. The victim loses blood in a slower manner, and dies slower (and more painfully, no doubt), so blood pressure is lost over a period of time, not suddenly.

In the above instances, there was indeed much blood, but it "surged" rather than "fountained". More like knocking over a jug full of it. Given the poor quality of the video, maybe about two litres (quarts) in volume was apparent at the gruesome end.

Honestly, I feel really quite ill when I think on those videos again...

Meffy

15th April 2006, 03:48 PM

Meffy,
I had to turn the picture 'upside down' before posting it for benefit of the majority of posters. :)
D'oh! Of course -- my mistake, and apologies to you.

The entire subject of these conspiracy theories is just so... so twisted... I can't fit people who think like that into my view of how conscious creatures should operate. I don't get it. (Guess that's a good thing.)

Mongrel

19th April 2006, 04:25 AM

[QUOTE=Zep;1575690]So while it may be true that a suddenly decapitated person (like with a samurai sword) /QUOTE]

Sorry to keep the grisly topic going but I thought you had to either be very skilled or lucky to achieve one stroke decapitation, bones are dense enough to stop most blade strokes. Having had to cut up large joints of meat, just swinging at it with an expensive knife will often mean a ruined knife, that's why you seperate the joints and cut carefully around.

The guillotine was, as far as I know, the only reliable method for achieving this. Even the famed Headsmans Axe (7-10lb head on a 5 foot shaft) often needed two or three blows to achieve full 'seperation'

richardm

19th April 2006, 04:35 AM

So while it may be true that a suddenly decapitated person (like with a samurai sword) will indeed have blood spurting "like a fountain", the slower process of cutting the throat and then hacking with a kitchen knife to remove the head does tend to preclude that situation.

I think for the fountain effect you need to open an artery. Cutting the throat in the Halal method cuts the jugular vein first, which is under much lower pressure. We did discuss the relative pressures here when the Berg video first appeared.

Polaris

19th April 2006, 05:25 AM

To my mind, it was edited to look as if it were all a single take, but I suspected that, in actual fact, what was decapitated was Berg's corpse... I'm speculating here, but I'd suspect he was killed off-camera, possibly by having his throat cut...and the half hour of sawing away at the neck with a knife until his head finally came loose was edited out, or simply not filmed at all.

I haven't had the stomach to watch the video more than once - and when I did it was right after its release. I have, however, seen just about all of them, if for nothing else to remind myself exactly what visions the "freedom fighters" have dancing in their heads as they load their AK47s/strap on Semtex. Anyway, that's all beside the point. I recall thinking exactly the same thing when the Daniel Pearl video was released. He gives the canned speech, then the camera goes dead and when it's turned back on, Sayid Sheikh is finishing cutting through the last of the tissue - he's stone dead at that point. I originally thought that Pearl had put up enough of a fight to require the camera-man's assistance, and they edited that out. But now I think it might just have been an edit for concision.

The worst, absolute worst, of these videos is the Bangladeshi truck drivers - just guys there to make a living. Only one was beheaded, the rest were shot. But what was most horrible was they screwed it up, and you could see and hear him trying to breathe for a few second before they finished. These are the people the CTs are indirectly supporting.

senorpogo

24th June 2006, 06:37 PM

Obviously the US military killed nick berg, as they had the same white chair as in Abu Ghraib

please post pics of your amazingly the same white chair here

TWAS SOCCER HOOLIGANS! (http://worldcup.reuters.com/newsimages/2006/06/24/tn_2006-06-24T175222Z_01_STU517_RTRIDSP_2_SPORT-SOCCER-WORLD.jpg)

Meffy

24th June 2006, 06:46 PM

Holy thread resurrection. Might as well post this (true) update.

A couple months ago I was sitting in one of our two chairs that are just like the dreaded terrorist chairs, while sharpening the blade of my new fauchard (briar-axe) on an electric grinding wheel. I was shifting in the seat to get my knee out of the way of the handle when suddenly the chair legs broke. (No, I don't weigh much, but the chair was old and brittle.) I went sprawling backward, twisting and trying to keep from falling on the sharp edge. Landed right on my bad knee -- doesn't Murphy watch over us all? -- and wrenched my hip pretty nastily too. Took several days to recover.

If that's not proof those chairs are the spawn of an unnatural alliance between Satan and Bin Laden, I don't know what is.

kevin

24th June 2006, 06:58 PM

Oddly, no-one knows who designed it.

I think you've misstated this. No one will fess up to having designed it.... But I am taking a patent out on it.

gumboot

24th June 2006, 07:04 PM

Auckland, New Zealand here.

We have SIX. But they're hiding. One of them appears to have jumped the balcony in an attempt to commit suicide...

JUST LIKE TERRORIST PRISONERS!

Well I'm convinced.

-Andrew

Orphia Nay

24th June 2006, 10:47 PM

Who said there weren't WMDs in Iraq? ;)

karim

24th June 2006, 11:56 PM

Well if you compare the voice in berg, armstrong and other audio and videos from Abu Musab it sounds alike.

You might be interested to know that on December 7th 2004. Al-Qaeda in Iraq released a tribute video to the Martyrs Abu Anas al-Shami & Abu Abdullah.
Abu Anas al-Shami was the one on Zarqawis left side in the Berg video.
Abu Abdullah was his "bodyguard" and was killed with him on Sept 16th 2004 near the Abu Ghraib Prison complex in a missile strike on their car.

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7617/ttyyyyyyyyyyyyytttttttttttyzz7.jpg

But according to the loosers Al-Qaeda doesn't exists... right.