I'm going to get a reading with John Edward in NYC.

[AmyWilson]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)

[Morris Cod]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)



It's Pooh. :)

[Flange Desire]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)
That's wrong. Your going to get a royal rodgering with the amazing liar John Edward. You already have your tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible fraud and amazing liar. You are amazed by his scam. :(

Your going to get a royal rodgering with John Edward, and then hopefully learn more about scam artists. ;) He deserves to be convicted for deluding so many people every day.

It's wrong. :(

[Zep]

Oh no! I totally disagree, Flange! I think Amy should go and get THOUSANDS of readings from John Edward. And pay through the nose for each and every one.

Of course, Amy is more than well aware of Edward's slimy techniques. Just as Edward's research team is more than well aware of Amy's real identity, his family history, his spending habits, and the colour of his underwear by now.

Having two such credulous cretins rip each other off is my idea of good entertainment!

[JM85]

Oh no! I totally disagree, Flange! I think Amy should go and get THOUSANDS of readings from John Edward. And pay through the nose for each and every one.

Of course, Amy is more than well aware of Edward's slimy techniques. Just as Edward's research team is more than well aware of Amy's real identity, his family history, his spending habits, and the colour of his underwear by now.

Having two such credulous cretins rip each other off is my idea of good entertainment!

Have any proof of this? I would be interested to know.

[kuroyume0161]

Have any proof of this? I would be interested to know.
Proof of what? John Edward is the one who claims to 'talk to those whom have crossed-over', let him provide the evidence.

So far, the best we have is an extremely flawed experiment from an extremely credulous PhD name Gary Schwartz. (Go to the front page here - Home in the upper-left corner - enter "Gary Schwartz" in the search and read the links).

Gary believes it, Gary'll believe anything, Schwartz

Must be cozy in his ivory tower of fortitude against reality.

Back to dancing Johnny:

1. Cold, warm, hot reading is a well known 'parlor trick'.

2. There is no evidence at all that when people die, anything persists beyond death except for the rotting corpse (i.e.: no soul, spirit, consciousness, ghost, etc.).

3. There in no evidence at all of any supernatural realms or beings.

Robert

[Mojo]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. Do you remember what the Bible says about this sort of thing? Oh, sorry, I forgot: you haven't read it. Try Deuteronomy 18:10-12.

[Zep]

Have any proof of this? I would be interested to know.Any proof of what, in particular?

[J. Arthur Hastur]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)

Let us know how it goes!

[Bronze Dog]

1) Why bother going to NYC when your local mentalist magician can do the exact same thing?
2) Why bother going to NYC when the memories of your loved ones are already in your head? JE won't tell you anything new, and, if anything, he'll likely distort your memories, profaning them for the sake of money.

[J. Arthur Hastur]

Yeah, but you can mess with JE's mind, I'd do it if I had the chance.

[hellaeon]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)

dont tell us your problems....

[Kochanski]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)

Oooh, how exciting for you, do remember to bring a bottle of Massengil for the Biggest Douche in the Universe to autograph for you. You shouldn't miss out on this opportunity.

It's true :)

[kieran]

I haven't been paying much attention to the boards for a week or two. Does AnyWilson usually just initiate an obviously contentious thread of virtually zero substance, then sit back ... ?

Seems like my first candidate for the ignore list - if I can figure out how that works. Now if AmyWilson was backing it up with some kind of argument or response to questions then it might be interesting, otherwise he/she is just plain boring.

[Kochanski]

AmyWilson is a troll.

It's true. :)

[Bronze Dog]

Meh. I find her just barely interesting enough to try and post snippy one-liners. But she's dull enough to consider a career in chartered accountancy, if her math skills aren't as bad as her logic skills. Even then, some of the Enron sorts out there might hire her.

[Dinsdale Piranha]

Seems like my first candidate for the ignore list - if I can figure out how that works.

Here's how, Kieran. Just find one of AmyWilson's posts, click on her/his/it's name in the upper left corner. A little menu will come down where you can click on "Add AmyWilson to your Ignore List." It's easy and fun to do!

This public service announcement paid for by The Conspiracy to Ignore All Things AmyWilson.

[Gr8wight]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)

Does that mean you're going to be away from the message board for several days? I'm looking forward to that.

It's true :)

[ObscureReferenceMan]

Oooh, how exciting for you, do remember to bring a bottle of Massengil for the Biggest Douche in the Universe to autograph for you. You shouldn't miss out on this opportunity.

It's true :)

Kochanski, you rule!!
It's true! :)

Seriously, Amy... Bring a tape recorder with you, and record your session. Then transcribe it and post it for us. We'd be interested in reading how it went. Really.

[Bronze Dog]

Yes, Amy, do take a recording device with you.

[JM85]

Any proof of what, in particular?

That JE has a research team that knows all these kind of details about people.

[Bronze Dog]

That JE has a research team that knows all these kind of details about people.
Of course, that's just one possible explanation. Cold reading, one of the favored explanations, doesn't require much. But they all operate on principles we can describe, measure, etc. No new pluralities or whatever Occam would say.

The psychic explanation, however, does posit an unnecessary new force, unless you'd like to show us its necessity in explaining JE's results.

[Luke T.]

Amy, I'm getting a strong male figure from the other side. I'm also getting an R sound. Maybe Roger, Rick, Ralph, Robert, HeRbeRt, HenRy. Could be your great-grandfather on your father's side, or an uncle on your mother's side, or your grandmother's mailman.

Anyway, he says hello, everything's great, the peaches are ripe, and to stay away from the JREF forum.

[JM85]

Of course, that's just one possible explanation. Cold reading, one of the favored explanations, doesn't require much. But they all operate on principles we can describe, measure, etc. No new pluralities or whatever Occam would say.

The psychic explanation, however, does posit an unnecessary new force, unless you'd like to show us its necessity in explaining JE's results.

I know cold reading is one explanation and is the widely accepted one by skeptics but you can't know with absolute certainty that JE is cold reading because you don't know what he's thinking. I'm not arguing that JE has any psychic ability but what I am wondering is if your claim that JE has a research team is just speculative or you have actual evidence of this. That would explain a lot and I would defineately be more convinced that JE is a fraud if there is any actual hard evidence of JE having a research team that finds out personal information about people.

[Kelly]

I seriously doubt that IT is even going to this fraudulent event.

[Bronze Dog]

I know cold reading is one explanation and is the widely accepted one by skeptics but you can't know with absolute certainty that JE is cold reading because you don't know what he's thinking.
Nothing is known with absolute certainty. But given what I've seen of him, it sounds like cold reading. Cold reading is a known technique, and can produce the same results under the same general conditions.
I'm not arguing that JE has any psychic ability but what I am wondering is if your claim that JE has a research team is just speculative or you have actual evidence of this.
It wouldn't surprise me if he did, but it doesn't really matter.
That would explain a lot and I would defineately be more convinced that JE is a fraud if there any actual hard evidence of JE having a research team that finds out personal information about people.
You shouldn't have to wait until evidence of fraud comes in. Psychic powers are an unnecessary entity when it comes to explaining the results. He's supposed to prove he's psychic.

If I claim to be able to fly by flapping my arms, do you wait until someone proves me a fraud by cutting the wire supporting me, or do you challenge me to prove my claim?

[JM85]

Nothing is known with absolute certainty. But given what I've seen of him, it sounds like cold reading. Cold reading is a known technique, and can produce the same results under the same general conditions.

It wouldn't surprise me if he did, but it doesn't really matter.

You shouldn't have to wait until evidence of fraud comes in. Psychic powers are an unnecessary entity when it comes to explaining the results. He's supposed to prove he's psychic.

If I claim to be able to fly by flapping my arms, do you wait until someone proves me a fraud by cutting the wire supporting me, or do you challenge me to prove my claim?

I know not everything is known with absolute certainty but there are some things that are. The thing about cold reading though is if a psychic gets a hit and you could get the same result from cold reading how would you know he's cold reading and not using some other ability? For the lay person like myself I would know with absolute certainty that JE is full of it if there is evidence of a research team gathering facts and imo this is one thing that should be concentrated on more.

The reality is JE thinks he already has proven he's psychic because of that one afterlife experiments test, and he's not going to take Randi's challenge so it's left up to everybody else to prove that JE is a fraud. And I'm not saying that those test results are valid, but my point is JE isn't going to try and prove himself.

[Bronze Dog]

I know not everything is known with absolute certainty but there are some things that are.
Such as? Well, I'll give you "I think, therefore I am", since I haven't been able to come up with any problems with that one.
The thing about cold reading though is if a psychic gets a hit and you could get the same result from cold reading how would you know he's cold reading and not using some other ability?
That's where scientifically-minded people like James Randi come in. Double-blinding. Control groups. Rules that make cold reading far more difficult, if not impossible.
For the lay person like myself I would know for absolute certainty that JE is full of it if there is evidence of a research team gathering facts and imo this is one thing that should be concentrated on more.
True, but that's not good as a long-term philosophy.
The reality is JE thinks he already has proven he's psychic because of that one afterlife experiments test, and he's not going to take Randi's challenge so it's left up to everybody else to prove that JE is a fraud. And I'm not saying that those test results are valid, but my point is JE isn't going to try and prove himself.
The fact that he's not willing to prove himself repeatedly should be telling: Science works by replication. Besides, he could donate the million to charity and convince a lot of us skeptics. Those are two good reasons right there.

[Ashles]

Aren't there rules about trolls on these forums?

Are morons really allowed to continually create unoriginally 'controversial' posts and then never revisit them?

This Amy Wilson troll is just getting beyond stupid now.

The fact that they haven't got bored with this pathetic game yet speaks volumes about them.

[De_Bunk]

Ashles...

No...the trolls are most welcome here...

The Mods are powerless to stop them... as you can see.


DB

[JM85]

BronzeDog:


"Such as? Well, I'll give you "I think, therefore I am", since I haven't been able to come up with any problems with that one."


Scientific facts. I've never thought to question the law of gravity but maybe you are correct. Maybe you can explain to me this theory because I've never heard of it and I don't think I entirely understand it.

"That's where scientifically-minded people like James Randi come in. Double-blinding. Control groups. Rules that make cold reading far more difficult, if not impossible."

Like I said before JE will never do this, and the reason for this very well may be that he's a fraud but the possibility's still open that JE isn't using these techniques.

"True, but that's not good as a long-term philosophy."

After I find out a fact I usually believe it.

"The fact that he's not willing to prove himself repeatedly should be telling: Science works by replication. Besides, he could donate the million to charity and convince a lot of us skeptics. Those are two good reasons right there"

They are. I would like to see JE take the challenge.

[Bronze Dog]

Gravity: We don't know for certain that if I drop a rock that it'll fall. However, we've observed enough rocks dropping in a consistent manner that we're very, very confident that my rock will fall.
Like I said before JE will never do this, and the reason for this very well may be that he's a fraud but the possibility's still open that JE isn't using these techniques.
Anything's possible. It just doesn't seem very probable, given our level of knowledge.
I would like to see JE take the challenge.
That puts you well above of a lot of people I wind up arguing about JE with.
After I find out a fact I usually believe it.
I think you may have missed a point I was making, though: When someone makes a big claim, such as being psychic, the burden of proof proof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof#Science_and_other_uses) is on the claimant. Though having people pointing out hard evidence of fraud is good, it shouldn't be a primary defense: Skepticism works by sticking with the null hypothesis (JE is not psychic) until it can be falsified (by him passing the challenge).

Sorry if I'm not being particularly eloquent at the moment. Few physical annoyances at the moment.

[FramerDave]

He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)

He deseves whatever he gets for deceiving so many people every day.

There, fixed that for you.

Do have a job or are you a full-time troll?

[kittynh]

Amy Wilson is basically either an atheists, or someone that doesn't mind the idea of burning in hell.

[Zep]

John Edward and Friends

http://www.valleyskeptic.com/csicop_psychic.html

And...
Time Magazine did a skeptical story on John Edward and his Crossing Over TV show in March 2001. Time writer Leon Jaroff revealed some interesting details about Edward's show. Now most in the skeptic business have seen fakes trying to pass off a cold reading technique as psychic powers a billion times. However, Edward seemed to have a fair number of "hits", more than one expects from a straight cold reading. Jaroff's article, where he attended a taping, revealed a couple "helpers".

Before the audience is let into the taping, they're huddled together in a small holding pen. With nothing else to do but cool their heels, audience members tend to chat amongst themselves about what dead relatives Edward might talk to. Edward's production assistants freely mingle among the crowd. It's not unbelievable that the assistants are miked and are recording some details for Edward to later use.http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=977678

...and so on.

[Kiless]

John Edward and Friends

http://www.valleyskeptic.com/csicop_psychic.html

And...
http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=977678

...and so on.

Nice links Zep, thanks. I can use them.

I found this (http://dir.salon.com/story/people/feature/2002/06/13/probability/index.html) - love the title of the article - on Salon. 'The art of intelligence insulting has rarely known such mastery.' :D

And you might want to check out this (http://www.tv.com/talking-to-the-dead/episode/238519/summary.html)episode of Penn and Teller's Bull**it. :)

Heh, just tried to find the name of the P&T episode and found this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edward) on wikipedia:

A 2002 episode of the animated series (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animated_series)South Park (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park), entitled "The Biggest Douche in the Universe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Biggest_Douche_in_the_Universe)", focused primarily on Edward, portraying him as a cynical (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cynic) and exploitative fraud (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud) who knowingly manipulates the bereaved, but at the same time gets extremely upset if anyone questions his abilities. Stan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Marsh) works to expose him by mastering cold reading (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_reading) and repeatedly argues that Edward's actions are fraudulent, and more importantly, immoral, as they deceive the bereaved and vulnerable. At the end of the episode, aliens bring Edward to an intergalactic awards ceremony where he is honored with the Biggest Douche in the Universe Award, beating a literal giant douche (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douche) for the award. :D

I'll have to go find that ep. I've never seen it! :)

Wikipedia also cites this at the end of JE's shows...

At the end of John Edward's show, the following legal disclaimer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disclaimer) appears for approximately three seconds: The producer has relied heavily on the contributions of John Edward and other third parties in the creation of this program, which has been produced for entertainment purposes only. Materials and opinions presented in this program by John Edward and other third parties, including statements, predictions, documents, photos, and video footage come solely from the respective third party sources and are not the views, opinions, and the responsibility of the producer and, are not meant or intended to be a form of advice, instruction, suggestion, counsel or factual statement in any way whatsoever.

Yeah, it might be a 'standard disclaimer'.

Heh.

[Zep]

His show got canned anyway. I suspect the criticism aimed at the network cut too deep after a while... ;)

[UrsulaV]

Surrrrrre you are.

[kittynh]

sorry I insulted atheists.

Momentary lapse.

As a Xian I feel confident in saying that Amy Wilson is unafraid of hell.

[Jeff Corey]

sorry I insulted atheists.

Momentary lapse.

As a Xian I feel confident in saying that Amy Wilson is unafraid of hell.
As an atheist, I feel confident that she's correct.
It's true.

[JM85]

Gravity: We don't know for certain that if I drop a rock that it'll fall. However, we've observed enough rocks dropping in a consistent manner that we're very, very confident that my rock will fall.
Anything's possible. It just doesn't seem very probable, given our level of knowledge.

That makes sense. Took me a little while to wrap my mind around.

That puts you well above of a lot of people I wind up arguing about JE with.

Thanks. My opinions have changed a lot about JE over the years. But I think even most believers would be interested to see JE take Randi's test. They'll make excuses for him if he doesn't want to though.

I think you may have missed a point I was making, though: When someone makes a big claim, such as being psychic, the burden of proof proof (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof#Science_and_other_uses) is on the claimant. Though having people pointing out hard evidence of fraud is good, it shouldn't be a primary defense: Skepticism works by sticking with the null hypothesis (JE is not psychic) until it can be falsified (by him passing the challenge).


You're right but I think if a skeptic makes a claim he or she should also back it up with evidence and they usually do when they make a claim about cold reading but I have heard the claim that JE has a research team several times and I can understand why skeptics would say this but I never have heard any evidence to back this up. I'm sure if there was some investigating done then people would be able to learn more about this.

Sorry if I'm not being particularly eloquent at the moment. Few physical annoyances at the moment.

I was actually able to understand your point better in this post.

[shell]

a way to possibly prove JE is cold reading is to get a reading with him and agree with information that is way off base. If he follows the misinformation and continues on the path then you know he's full of it and if he doesn't bite well...

[JM85]

That would be a good idea..I'm trying to think of a reason how this wouldn't prove JE was a fraud. He might use the excuse that the person was trying to deceive JE and so the relative that was trying to get through thought they were talking to a family member because the skeptic is acknowledging everything. But that would be a stretch. If this were to happen it would convince me that JE is a fraud.

[Zep]

This has already been done. I'll try to find the details...

It was a case in Brooklyn of a young man who was killed in a car accident locally. It was reported in the local media (or internet) but they got some of the facts wrong - names or nicknames or something. The parents went to Edwards, who "connected" with the boy, and then proceeded to trot out the "incorrect" information almost exactly as it appeared in the media (and without doing the cold-reading schtick first!).

If you wanted to test him this way, you would need to do some preparation like this. A genuine psychic would be expected to know "the truth".

[Starthinker]

a way to possibly prove JE is cold reading is to get a reading with him and agree with information that is way off base. If he follows the misinformation and continues on the path then you know he's full of it and if he doesn't bite well...

I thought this was done and JE claimed it wasn't because he was being misled, but because he was picking up a loved one from someone behind the audience, out of the building, in the parking lot and that if you could find that person then the information he gave could be verified. It may have been another psychic who said this, but I remember the story from somewhere.

[Forty-Two]

I'll have to go find that ep. I've never seen it! :)
My local station just ran that episode in syndication last night. Stan does a great demonstration of cold reading. I've only seen the episode twice, but here's what I remember:

Stan: It's all fake! Here, I'll show you. I'll need a volunteer. Hey lady, how about you?
Lady: Oh! All right. [People applaud]
Stan: I'm getting a message from an older man.
Lady: (gasps) My father?
Stan: Yes, your father. Does this month November hold any significance?
Lady: (gasps) My birthday's in November!
Stan: Right. Your dad says, "Happy birthday." (to Kyle) You see? Anyone can do it.
Man: But how did you know that her father died?
Stan: I didn't. Based on the woman's age, I guessed that she knew of an older man who had died, but I didn't know if it was her father, grandfather, or a friend. She supplied that it was her father, and I validated her response.
Other Man: But how did you know her birthday?
Stan: Again, I didn't. November could have been the month he died, or maybe Thanksgiving was really special.
Man: I dunno. It seems like more than just coincidence to me...
Stan: Look, I'll do it again. (to lady) Your dad says, "Don't worry about the money."
Lady: (gasps) My sister and I have been fighting about his inheritance!
Man: Wow, you're amazing!
Stan: No, when a father dies, there's usually some trouble sorting out his inheritance. Also, most everyone worries about money.
Other Man: No, I think you really have a gift! Like that John Edward!

Great episode.

[elaine]

That reminds me of a time when Michael Shermer was on a local talk radio promoting Science Friction. Mike's experience as a cold reader was talked about in the intro. During the break, it was reported that two people had called in, requesting psychic readings. I couldn't tell if the host was joking, but I wouldn't be surprised if it really happened.

[Tricky]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.
Frankly, my dear, I believe you are lying. You have done so many times already and have openly demonstrated that you are a troll who likes to yank chains. Is this some sort of role-playing game you are participating in?

[JM85]

This has already been done. I'll try to find the details...

It was a case in Brooklyn of a young man who was killed in a car accident locally. It was reported in the local media (or internet) but they got some of the facts wrong - names or nicknames or something. The parents went to Edwards, who "connected" with the boy, and then proceeded to trot out the "incorrect" information almost exactly as it appeared in the media (and without doing the cold-reading schtick first!).

If you wanted to test him this way, you would need to do some preparation like this. A genuine psychic would be expected to know "the truth".


I'll do a google search for the source of this unless Randi already wrote something about this. I would be interested to know the source.

[kittynh]

Sadly, John Edwards is the reason I joined JREF. He makes a lotta money. And he knows how to milk it out of the depressed and grieving.

Gonna burn. Totally gonna burn. Keeps me a Xian.

[elaine]

Definitely, it's people like JE that make me wish I believed in hell. Not that I'm judgemental or anything.

[Kochanski]

Well, I don't believe in hell, but I do believe in seeing him exposed for the sick, slimy, obnoxious, creep that he is. I would like to see him out of the psychic circuit, to see him earning a living teaching ballroom dancing to fat little old ladies.

How do I know he would be teaching fat little old ladies? Cause I would be paying them to take lessons from him :D That is just my little dream, perhaps we can all make it a reality ;)

It's true :)

[Kiless]

Sadly, John Edwards is the reason I joined JREF. He makes a lotta money. And he knows how to milk it out of the depressed and grieving.

Gonna burn. Totally gonna burn. Keeps me a Xian.

I think the existance of John Edwards is an excellent reason to join JREF. He's a @*)#&^(&$#%^*(#&%^#*$&%^#*$&^%#*$&^(*&^#(*.

[De_Bunk]

JM85...

After getting it wrong, JE pointed to a cameraman and claimed that was the reason he got a wrong message.

The cameraman was then led outside...thru the parking lot and to a car repair yard, filled with workers...Where JE threw out some cold reading until he got some kinda connection between the cameraman and a mechanic...( i think )

Its a few years back...but it happened 'cos i was watching the episode...

DB

[Zep]

We need a televised John Edward-type show where they do exactly the same thing, but then expose it all at the end! Run through detail-by-detail how the readings were done and how the results were obtained.

Whoah! Scandal on prime-time! Then all the watchers of Edward and van Praag and Sylvia will be doing the comparison!

[Ladewig]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.


You think you are going to get a reading? I predict that you will watch people fight over who JE is "connecting" with.

Be sure to let us know what happens and how satisfied you are.

[Meffy]

You think you are going to get a reading?
People don't "get" readings with John Edward. They GIVE readings to him. On silver platters they provide themselves. He gives back a few tidbits and the platter-bestower expresses astonishment.

But I don't believe "Amy" is going to do any such thing, any more than I believe its other posts. "A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

[De_Bunk]

Amywilson

Great...i hope everything turns out well..

Its true :)

DB

[westphalia]

That's right, I'm going to get a reading with the amazing psychic John Edward. I already have my tickets from Ticketmaster. John Edward truly is an incredible guy and amazing psychic. I'm amazed by his powers. :)

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)

This troll post sort of reminds me of Genesis, where the creation story is told once, then curiously repeated (albeit with changes) for no apparent reason.

Weird.:D

It's true!

[Zep]

You know, Amy, it was ALMOST going to be the Fab 6 on Queer Eye for the Straight Guy. But JE just had to have his hair done that day for his audience... Besides, what was going to be his "speciality"? Philosophy? Brain surgery? Thank goodness they picked genuinely talented chaps for the show instead, say I.

Oh well. Perhaps you should pick a different one to swoon over, young man. You KNOW all the good-looking ones are married or...!

[IsaacKoi]

I'm going to get a reading with John Edward, and than hopefully learn more about him personally. ;) He deserves whatever he wants whenever he wants for helping so many people everyday.

It's true. :)

I think a short answer to Amy Wilson's repeated "It's true :) " message is needed.

How about:

(1) "Prove it! :catfight: ",
(2) "That's nice :drool:"
(3) "Please justify your claims that 'It's true" in a bit more detail :dig: "

Kind Regards,

Isaac Koi

[Tirdun]

Why are all these AW posts getting bumped up?