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AmyWilson
12th April 2006, 11:41 PM
I always got in trouble in my early college years, because I'd always call my science teacher an idiot when he taught evolution.
Since there is NOT a shred of evidence to support evolution, PROVE to me that evolution is real. Don't give me any garbage about chimps at the zoo or your hair growing longer, I want hard evidence of evolution existing. There is not a shred of evidence to support evolution.
Everyone on the earth and everything came from Heaven and God. People came from Adam and Eve, etc, like it says in the Christian bible. Just look around the earth -- everyone knows that God created all the people, flowers, animals, blue sky, trees, etc. :)
Evolution is trash. I can't believe who came up with such a stupid idea. God and heaven created the earth and everyone knows it, but some people (like on this James Randi website) are too scared to admit it. I'm laughing right now at the scared James Randi people. My sides are splitting as I write this.
God and Heaven created the earth. Get over it. :)
buddhic
12th April 2006, 11:54 PM
Believe what you will because you are human you are given that freedom.
The Christian Bible you refer to is an english translation (depending on the version is could be a translation of a translation) of an earlier text and for all you know the whole Creation of the Bible could be a metaphor for a greater idea.
Evolution makes no claims for the existence of God and aside from contracticing the belief that every thing just appeared it does not lay claim that such a thing as God could exist.
In the observable world nothing just appears, not even you.
You developed in your mother's womb like a flower budding from a stem.
Yeah_Right
13th April 2006, 12:03 AM
I always got in trouble in my early college years, because I'd always call my science teacher an idiot when he taught evolution.
Since there is NOT a shred of evidence to support evolution, PROVE to me that evolution is real. Don't give me any garbage about chimps at the zoo or your hair growing longer, I want hard evidence of evolution existing. There is not a shred of evidence to support evolution.
Everyone on the earth and everything came from Heaven and God. People came from Adam and Eve, etc, like it says in the Christian bible. Just look around the earth -- everyone knows that God created all the people, flowers, animals, blue sky, trees, etc. :)
Evolution is trash. I can't believe who came up with such a stupid idea. God and heaven created the earth and everyone knows it, but some people (like on this James Randi website) are too scared to admit it. I'm laughing right now at the scared James Randi people. My sides are splitting as I write this.
God and Heaven created the earth. Get over it. :)
Amy, what evidence do you have that God created the heavens and the earth? No, no, don't point me to the bible, I want scientific evidence. And don't use creationist arguments to attempt to disprove evolution, lets have some scientific data to prove that the earth was created in literally seven days. Can't wait.
Wavicle
13th April 2006, 12:11 AM
I always got in trouble in my early college years, because I'd always call my science teacher an idiot when he taught evolution.
Chances are that science teacher spent many years intensively studying and understanding biology. What were your credentials when you challenged him?
Since there is NOT a shred of evidence to support evolution, PROVE to me that evolution is real. Don't give me any garbage about chimps at the zoo or your hair growing longer, I want hard evidence of evolution existing. There is not a shred of evidence to support evolution.
Tell us, with specificity, what you consider "evolution" and what you consider "hard evidence." It's annoyingly common, for those who dismiss it, to have overly complicated definitions of evolution that require an unbroken line of unquestionable proof from inorganic atoms to 3 gigabase DNA strands.
Everyone on the earth and everything came from Heaven and God. People came from Adam and Eve, etc, like it says in the Christian bible. Just look around the earth -- everyone knows that God created all the people, flowers, animals, blue sky, trees, etc. :)
Could you provide us with some hard evidence that everything can trace its roots back to this source? And when, approximately, did all this happen? (Again, please provide some evidenciary support.)
Thanks!
Zep
13th April 2006, 12:11 AM
...[blah blah blah]... Get over it. :)Reality beginning to bite, Amy? ;)
Zep
13th April 2006, 12:13 AM
Just a warning for the new folks - Amy Wilson is a troll. Sort of like a smurf, but with fewer brains. We play with trolls here! Oh what fun!
H3LL
13th April 2006, 12:16 AM
I don't think any god ever did anything.
But I'm starting to believe that the bible creates trolls.
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Waddauno
13th April 2006, 12:29 AM
C'mon AW . . . . Where's my "It's true"? Where's my :) ? Don't leave me hangin' here!
Bronze Dog
13th April 2006, 06:17 AM
Come back when you're not spouting creationist cliches that have been refuted a thousand times (http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/list.html).
aggle-rithm
13th April 2006, 06:20 AM
C'mon AW . . . . Where's my "It's true"? Where's my :) ? Don't leave me hangin' here!
Her new thing is: "Everybody knows. :)"
ingoa
13th April 2006, 06:54 AM
I know that one should not base a theory on testimonials. But I get the suspicion that reading the bible makes people stupid.
How interesting.
Molinaro
13th April 2006, 07:12 AM
Doctors have been watching viruses evolve for many years now. Or do you believe that they are making it all up?
People are born with birth defects all the time, or do you believe that is just made up?
eri
13th April 2006, 07:35 AM
Oh, Amy, we all know you didn't go to college. You have to graduate from high school first!
patnray
13th April 2006, 07:39 AM
Everyone on the earth and everything came from Heaven and God. People came from Adam and Eve, etc, like it says in the Christian bible. Just look around the earth -- everyone knows that God created all the people, flowers, animals, blue sky, trees, etc. :)
You have the right to believe what you want because people, not gods, have fought to establish that freedom.
The christian bible is about humanity. It is about confronting our mortality and recognizing our relationships and obligations. "God" is but a literary device to move the stories along and answer seemingly unanswerable questions. As our knowledge increases the role of "god" becomes more and more constrained.
By pretending that the bible is about "god" and not humanity the message of the stories becomes distorted. Thus, the story of Adam and Eve, a wonderful, uplifting tale about humanity acquiring knowledge, ascending above the animals, and creating paradise is perverted into a dark tale in which knowledge is evil and people are sinners simply for using their minds (the one feature that distinguishes them from animals). Of course, the christian interpretation is very useful for controlling people and gives power to the priesthood.
There is a factual error in your OP: "everyone knows that God created all the people, flowers, animals, blue sky, trees, etc. " Since I, and many others, do not "know" this, then you are wrong. No matter what motivation you imagine for our belief, it does not change that fact. But it is obvious that facts are far less important to you than beliefs.
You have a man given right to those beliefs...
Bronze Dog
13th April 2006, 07:43 AM
Of course, if everyone knows, you should be able to tell us how everyone knows. That's how science works.
I less than three logic
13th April 2006, 07:43 AM
I know that one should not base a theory on testimonials. But I get the suspicion that reading the bible makes people stupid.
How interesting.
I think there is a hole in your suspicion. Most of these people haven’t actually read the bible. They just think they know what it says or means, and they know a small collection of verses fed to them on paper cups and other little tidbits. In fact, I would say that reading, and actually comprehending, the bible would turn more away from their religion than convert to believers.
Here is a paragraph from Thomas Paine’s Age of Reason:
It is not the antiquity of a tale that is any evidence of its truth; on the contrary, it is a symptom of its being fabulous; for the more ancient any history pretends to be, the more it has the resemblance of a fable. The origin of every nation is buried in fabulous tradition, and that of the Jews is as much to be suspected as any other. To charge the commission of acts upon the Almighty, which, in their own nature, and by every rule of moral justice, are crimes, as all assassination is, and more especially the assassination of infants, is matter of serious concern. The Bible tells us, that those assassinations were done by the express command of God. To believe, therefore, the Bible to be true, we must unbelieve all our belief in the moral justice of God; for wherein could crying or smiling infants offend? And to read the Bible without horror, we must undo everything that is tender, sympathizing, and benevolent in the heart of man. Speaking for myself, if I had no other evidence that the Bible is fabulous than the sacrifice I must make to believe it to be true, that alone would be sufficient to determine my choice.
You can read this online in its entirety here (http://www.ushistory.org/Paine/reason/index.htm). I would recommend it. :)
Roboramma
13th April 2006, 07:50 AM
Amy, right on brother!
Those stupid scientists are always making far out claims. I think they just came up with all that BS quantum mechanics on acid.
There's not one shred of evidence that the earth orbits the sun.
There is? Yeah, right, prove it.
Because obviously if you can't understand how the evidence for that works, you won't be able to understand evolution either.
Bronze Dog
13th April 2006, 07:51 AM
In fact, I would say that reading, and actually comprehending, the bible would turn more away from their religion than convert to believers.
I believe John Shelby Spong said something along those lines in Rescuing the Bible From Fundamentalism: Biblical scholars are the least likely people to be fundies and literalists.
CACTUSJACKmankin
13th April 2006, 08:18 AM
That depends on what evidence it would take to convince you.
1) Humans and chimpanzees share genes in not only nuclear DNA but also mitochondrial DNA which is only provided by the mother and is totally distinct from nuclear DNA.
2) What about the two dozen or so fossil Austrilopithecine and Homo species that have been found that very clearly show our transition since our common ancestor with chimpanzees.
Archaeopteryx was recently found to have a hyperextended second toe which is only found in one group of animals, dromeosaurids(velociraptor). So archaopteryx is very closely related to a dinosaur group, yet it's a bird because it had feathers and a wishbone. Thus, birds evolved from dinosaurs.
There are about five or six species of fish-amphibian transitional fossils, one of which came out last week in Nature. Each show a progressional separation of the head and shoulder, which later becomes the neck, and also shows the development of digital limbs.
There are a whole bunch of transitional species from reptile-mammal. Dimetrodon shows primitive differentiated teeth which is not found in reptiles yet is in all mammals. The much later Cynognathus had fully differentiated teeth, had a mammalian posture, and has evidence of a second palate which is only found in mammals. Probainognathus has a double jaw joint, he had a reptilian jaw joint and a mammalian jaw joint.
If these animals aren't missing links, then there is no such thing as a missing link, because these animals are almost precisely what you would predict if you were to imagine what an animal with a mix of traits would be like.
3) There's also the fact that apart from our bigger brains and walking hips and a few other more minor things we are physiologically typical primates and placental mammals. If you can point to a real biological reason why we aren't primates, I'd love to see it. And no, building skyscrapers and using a remote control are not real biological differences, those derive from our brains.
4) Genetics provides evidence other than simple comparison. There are essentially three kinds of mutation; beneficial, harmful, and indifferent. Harmful genes are usually selected against and beneficial ones are usually selected for and become dominant in the population. However, indifferent mutations have no selection pressures to be removed or refined so they just remain in the gene pool and accumulate over time. If species are related then you would predict that they would inherit these same indifferent genes, and that is precisely what we see in humans and chimps. The chances that unrelated species would have the same accumulation of indifferent genes is so astronomically low that is it essentially zero.
4) Then there's molecular biology which is kind of difficult to explain and understand but I'll try to sum up. The function of DNA is that it codes for proteins, many of which cause chemical reactions in your body to occur with enough frequency in order for you to function. Proteins are made up of amino acids. The code for producing amino acid has many redundancies in it. Therefore, the same proteins can be created using the same amino acids using a different code. Again, you would predict that related species would inherit the same code and that the chances of unrelated species having the same codes is very close to zero. Again this is what we see.
If you reject all of this evidence out of hand then you are just being a stubborn creationist and there is no fossil or gene or piece of evidence we would ever find that would convince you.
BTW, The idea that the earth and universe are billions of years old is foundational to biology, geology, and astronomy. Abiogenesis is a chemical reality because all life is chemical in nature and organic chemistry and inorganic chemistry obey the same chemical laws. And Radiometric half-lives operate on and are measure with the laws of physics. So, if you are rejecting these ideas you are essentially rejecting all of mainstream science.
edited for grammatical errors.
Jimbo07
13th April 2006, 08:22 AM
God and Heaven created the earth.
Remarkable how, ignoring science, AW doesn't even know theology!
I think AW was a classmate of Philip J. Fry's at Coney Island Community College. :D
Bronze Dog
13th April 2006, 08:24 AM
Keep your arms and legs inside the desk at all times.
JohnF_73
13th April 2006, 08:28 AM
Anyone want to take a bet that Amy hasn't (and will never) conduct the Astral Projection test which she said she was going to do?
Anybody?
Bronze Dog
13th April 2006, 08:30 AM
Wouldn't we need someone to bet that she will take the test?
I suppose if we bugged her about it enough, she'd do it, but she'd fail, and try desperately to rationalize that failure.
alfaniner
13th April 2006, 08:41 AM
Prove to me that evolution is real. :)
First, prove to me that you are real.
Or at least that you are what you say you are, my "college-educated, adult woman."
Pauliesonne
13th April 2006, 08:54 AM
Since there is NOT a shred of evidence to support evolution, . Get over it. :)
Verbal diahorrea, I think so.
Bronze Dog
13th April 2006, 08:55 AM
How about this, Amy: Tell us what it would take to convince you.
DJ Hexadecibel
13th April 2006, 09:13 AM
You'd think that IF there were a creator. . .don't you think that it would be POSSIBLE, nay, FEASIBLE, that said creator (aliens, God, Morgan Freeman) would use evolution as a TOOL to bring about the wondrous creation known as The World? Err.. . .that is, if it IS a creation.
Dr Adequate
13th April 2006, 09:55 AM
But Amy ... we know you are an idiot troll.
I have answered politely and at length to real Young Earth Creationists
You are nothing but a shambling halfwitted idiot troll trying to bait your betters.
Pause for just a moment to consider what a stupid snivelling creature you are, and then go away.
ImaginalDisc
13th April 2006, 09:59 AM
But Amy ... we know you are an idiot troll.
I have answered politely and at length to real Young Earth Creationists
You are nothing but a shambling halfwitted idiot troll trying to bait your betters.
Pause for just a moment to consider what a stupid snivelling creature you are, and then go away.
Does that make her a shambling haflwitted idiot troll in an exstistential crisis?
Dr Adequate
13th April 2006, 11:02 AM
Well it might have some sort of ... "existential crisis", you say?
It behaves like an idiot in order that people should think that it's an idiot. Then it is pleased because its retarded behavior convinces a few people that it is a genuine retard.
What sort of person spends their spare time doing that?
Oh, right, an idiot with retarded social capabilities. Yeah.
It might realize that.
It would have to grow up first.
cyborg
13th April 2006, 11:05 AM
Seeing you rip on this troll is entertainment enough Dr Adequate.
Trantor
13th April 2006, 11:10 AM
This is a funny thread. It's hard to tell if Amy is a serious fundy or just likes attention or perhaps both.
Amy, if you want to know about the truth of the Bible, try reading it.
I once thought that the messages in the Bible came from God, that is until I actually read it for myself. If God actually had anything to do with the transmission of the Bible text, then God must be really screwed up. The whole book is an excercise in selfishness. Even Jesus who taught unselfishness, makes/teaches numerous selfish acts that make no sense at all. Read it and see. Ask youself - is this selfish or unselfish as you read the stories.
After reading the book cover to cover, I was shocked and amazed at just how stupid I had been. There is no way that this badly written text came from anything other than Man. And when I say Man, I mean men , NOT women. Even the institution of slavery is ok by Bible standards. How about the role of women in society?
While you are at it, why don't you ask your preacher about the history of the Bible. How did it come to be. Who wrote what. There is a lot of real historical information out there(or in many cases lack of), if you just dare to look.
ImaginalDisc
13th April 2006, 11:17 AM
Well it might have some sort of ... "existential crisis", you say?
As the late Victor Borge used to say, "It's your language, I'm just trying to speak it."
Outhere
13th April 2006, 11:20 AM
I have talked with my psychic and she tells me "Amy Wilson" is an anagram for "Now I am Sly." This person is obviously a 40+ nerd with a beard, glasses and a beer belly who would like to laugh his ass off at the debates he starts, but of course that won't work. Diet, exercise, diet exercise!
Outhere
13th April 2006, 11:24 AM
Everybody knows!:) It's True!;)
Zep
13th April 2006, 05:04 PM
"Amy Wilson" is merely a troll. Who gets worked up over a smurf?
UrsulaV
13th April 2006, 06:23 PM
I think before anybody tries to prove evolution is real for her benefit, Amy would have to prove she was genuinely interested, and not starting up yet another thread so that people will reply and acknowledge her existence.
UserGoogol
13th April 2006, 06:54 PM
Genetic mutations carefully pruned through the proccess of natural selection allows countless species of complex organisms to evolve from a single self-replicating polymer.
It's true. :)
lostnick3
13th April 2006, 08:01 PM
While you are at it, why don't you ask your preacher about the history of the Bible. How did it come to be. Who wrote what. There is a lot of real historical information out there(or in many cases lack of), if you just dare to look.
the old testament was taken from jewish oral traditions and the new testament was codified from tracks and letters by Constatine the pagen and his possee 300 years after the time of Jesus. in any case is appears the editors left the important stuff out. in the Jewish oral tradition Lilith was Adams first wife. but it apparently didn't make the final cut.
hellaeon
13th April 2006, 08:57 PM
amy you keyboard warrior you....
The Whether Man
14th April 2006, 03:32 AM
Amy, we were definitely NOT created. If we were created, it would have been with thumbs that opposed the backs of our hands, not the palms. That way we could pick up burgers with four supporting fingers and a thumb to hold the top on, and the contents wouldn't spill out all over our laps
*wipes burger contents off pants*
ntech
14th April 2006, 04:04 AM
Since there is NOT a shred of evidence to support evolution, PROVE to me that evolution is real.
Evolution is trash. I can't believe who came up with such a stupid idea. :)
Evolution has been accepted as fact by biological scientists since working with Mitochondrial DNA; in fact, fossils are just icing on the cake now. The problem is that only the college kids today get a solid background in the new sciences. Alas, there is always a fundy who won't listen to the science as it is being taught in class. There is too much complexity to begin to teach you here however if you really truly want to know the truth I suggest that you read "The Ancestor's Tale" by Richard Dawkins.
GreyPilgrim
14th April 2006, 04:25 AM
Everyone on the earth and everything came from Heaven and God. People came from Adam and Eve, etc, like it says in the Christian bible. Just look around the earth -- everyone knows that God created all the people, flowers, animals, blue sky, trees, etc. :)
Where do you stand on the reasons for children being born handicapped Amy? :-) You must have one. :-) You know, birth defects :-), physical ones, :-), mental ones :-). God giving babies brains a stir with his divine spoon :-) letting certain blessed individuals murder millions on a genocidal whim with complete celestial impunity then letting them live out their lives on a nice island with diplomatic protection while he sees fit to bestow a life of mental of physical ruin on my young cousin before finally reaching down (in his wisdom) with a graceful loving hand to deliver one last final, fatal convulsion while he slept. :-), where do you stand on childhood leukaemia Amy? :-) If god created all the people, flowers and pixies, then did he not create the disease, and does he not bestow it upon his creations? :-) Why? Are you going to go the Glenn Hoddle route and say that handicapped kids deserve their handicaps for sins of a previous life. Come on, you've got our attention. we're all waiting here with baited breath. we're dying to hear it.
And a direct response mind you, none of you usual, "sunshine, lollipops and rainbow" responses. No directing us to a biblical passage. Come on
I want to know why you think god allows some of his kids to be born as they are. He must have a reason. And if you believe in him, then by definition you must believe in his reason. What is it? :-) Is it for past life sins? :-) Is it Character building? :-) Is it to keeping the wheelchair industry alive? :-) Maybe it's not a past life thing!!! :-) Maybe It's a FUTURE life thing :-)Maybe all the severely handicapped kids in the world were actually going to turn out to be murderers, rapists, genocidal dictators and making them handicapped actually PREVENTED them from coming to fruition? :-) Oh no, wait, we already have those don't we. :-) Damn, I thought I was onto somthing there :-)
:-)
Zep
14th April 2006, 04:55 AM
I'll just say "Amen" to that, GP.
Bronze Dog
14th April 2006, 07:49 AM
Amy, we were definitely NOT created. If we were created, it would have been with thumbs that opposed the backs of our hands, not the palms. That way we could pick up burgers with four supporting fingers and a thumb to hold the top on, and the contents wouldn't spill out all over our laps
*wipes burger contents off pants*
You want to be designed like D&D rakshasas? ...That would be kind of cool. RAWR!
ImaginalDisc
14th April 2006, 09:23 AM
You want to be designed like D&D rakshasas? ...That would be kind of cool. RAWR!
Cool, until someone shoots you with a blessed crossbow bolt.
Bronze Dog
14th April 2006, 09:31 AM
Cool, until someone shoots you with a blessed crossbow bolt.
Oh. Forgot about that.
GreyPilgrim
15th April 2006, 05:02 AM
I'll just say "Amen" to that, GP.
Well thank you Zep. Would much rather have someone tell me how to get my smileys as lovely as Amy's though
:-)
Zep
15th April 2006, 05:36 AM
When you post, click on the little button that looks like a yellow bearded face (see below in Quick Reply for example). You will get a pop-up window with a selection of hundreds of smilies to choose from.
Enjoy!
GreyPilgrim
15th April 2006, 06:55 AM
When you post, click on the little button that looks like a yellow bearded face (see below in Quick Reply for example). You will get a pop-up window with a selection of hundreds of smilies to choose from.
Enjoy!
I don't have one! I have a small area under the text box (which I'm typing in now) with fourteen different icons to choose from, but this only seems to apply it to the title of the post. I'll click on the purple sad face for example...
I assumed that :-) would be parsed and rendered as a smily face. Maybe it's a browser thing.
Ishmael
15th April 2006, 07:45 AM
Amy:
You just prove to me that a phase I am fond of use is true. "All religions are bad"
Now that I got that out of my chest. You enjoy all the benefits of science but choose to ignore or rather remain ignorant about those points that somehow might threaten church attendance.
Of course if we lived in a rational society religion would not necessary for anyone or for any reason! That means that a lot of con artists will be out of business (priest, pastors, popes, ministers, mumbo-jumbo mystics and religious quacks in general).
There is more than enough proof of evolution. But no worst blindness than that of those who do not want to see.
Ripley Twenty-Nine
15th April 2006, 08:49 AM
I don't have one! I have a small area under the text box (which I'm typing in now) with fourteen different icons to choose from, but this only seems to apply it to the title of the post. I'll click on the purple sad face for example...
I assumed that :-) would be parsed and rendered as a smily face. Maybe it's a browser thing.
The Amy Wilson Smiley (Patent Pending) is just the semicolon : and a bracket ). It doesn't have a nose, presumably because it doesn't like the smell of troll.
It's true. :)
Roboramma
15th April 2006, 09:11 AM
the semicolon :
That's a colon. This ";" is a semicolon.
Oh, almost forgot, it's true. :)
GreyPilgrim
15th April 2006, 10:17 AM
The Amy Wilson Smiley (Patent Pending) is just the semicolon : and a bracket ). It doesn't have a nose, presumably because it doesn't like the smell of troll.
It's true. :)
testing....
:)
GreyPilgrim
15th April 2006, 10:18 AM
testing....
:)
Oh My God...
IT IS TRUE :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
[/EmoticonMadness]
Ripley Twenty-Nine
15th April 2006, 07:07 PM
That's a colon. This ";" is a semicolon.
Oh, almost forgot, it's true. :)
Aw man! I always get those two mixed up!
It's blue! ;)
Babylon Sister
16th April 2006, 09:18 AM
When you post, click on the little button that looks like a yellow bearded face (see below in Quick Reply for example). You will get a pop-up window with a selection of hundreds of smilies to choose from.
Enjoy!
Since this thread was derailed as soon as AW posted...
Neither my quick reply box nor the regular reply box has "a little button that looks like a yellow bearded face". Who do I have to pay to get one and how much will it cost?
Additionally, neither reply box has any editing features; bold, itallic, font size, etc. I can do some of those things with the [] [/] thingys, but is there a tool bar for them? (I've seen the tool bar on other v-bulletin sites I visit and yes, I know that I can c&p from Word.)
What's a girl to do?
GreyPilgrim
16th April 2006, 12:45 PM
Is this what you get sister?
:( :)
GreyPilgrim
16th April 2006, 12:49 PM
Anyhoo, didn't mean to derail the thread at all. I am interested in Amy's deeper musings on the subject.
One question I do want to ask you Amy, is just how fundamental are you in your beliefs? Was it all created in six days? Where all living things created on day three? Did we really have dinosaurs and humans running around at the same time?
Is THAT true? :)
Terry
16th April 2006, 12:52 PM
you guys need to go to preferences and select a different editor than "plain text box"
To clarify, choose "User CP" from the top menu, then click on "Edit options", and look in the "Misc Options" section at the bottom. Hope this helps...
Babylon Sister
16th April 2006, 04:57 PM
[second derail]
Is this what you get sister?
:( :)
Yes, that's what I get, or actually got until I changed my User CP as suggested by Terry.
you guys need to go to preferences and select a different editor than "plain text box"
To clarify, choose "User CP" from the top menu, then click on "Edit options", and look in the "Misc Options" section at the bottom. Hope this helps...
Thanks Terry! It's good to know there are folks out there that know these things. Sometimes this bb stuff seems to have too many moving parts for this technophobe.
[end second derail]
Wowbagger
16th April 2006, 07:19 PM
You know what? It doesn't even matter what you, AmyWilson, think; nor any other Bible believing folks. When biologists and other scientists want to study life, they want to do so as accurately as possible, thus they go with the biological model that is the most accurate and useful for themselves. Evolution is such an undisputed model in all scientific fields, that to throw it all away because some book* seems to say otherwise, is preposterous.
You want evidence of evolution? You'll find it virtually everywhere in life. But, the first thing you have to do is remove the preconceived ideas you've developed through religion, and start examining life forms as a real scientist - someone who only judges ideas based on empirical evidence.
*And a badly edited one, at that.
Meffy
17th April 2006, 07:44 AM
Has "Amy" ever responded to any posts in these spammy threads "she" starts? Engage in debate? Or does this person just wind people up, then sit back and laugh? My impression is that the latter's so. Probably makes me pretty stupid for bothering to reply to this thread, but it seems a worthwhile risk.
What a sad kind of life it must be if trolling makes "her" laugh. Or claim to laugh.
It's true. :-p
Bronze Dog
17th April 2006, 07:51 AM
She's likely abandoned the thread. I just post here for roughly the same reason I post in The Last Person to Post In This Thread Wins! thread: It's funny, and my previous posts were showing off my D&D geekiness.
GreyPilgrim
17th April 2006, 07:52 AM
Has "Amy" ever responded to any posts in these spammy threads "she" starts? Engage in debate? Or does this person just wind people up, then sit back and laugh? My impression is that the latter's so. Probably makes me pretty stupid for bothering to reply to this thread, but it seems a worthwhile risk.
What a sad kind of life it must be if trolling makes "her" laugh. Or claim to laugh.
It's true. :-p
I don't think He ever does Mef. Seems to follow the routine of 1) start a pointless thread with an outrageous claim about astrally projected unicorns, 2)wait for responses 3) answer responses with vague, unrelated comments, 4) repeat step 1.
May I draw your attention to:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1578633&postcount=22
Meffy
17th April 2006, 07:54 AM
*nod* No problems. My impression is that "Amy" is like a giant panda who does not eat -- just shoots and leaves. In which case the best thing to do is hijack the thread and not look back, which appears to be what happened, which is cool with me. (Three which-es in one sentence! Where's Macbeth when you need him?)
[edit] I like the picture. In my mind, the Comic Book Guy should start every sentence with "ACtually..."
GreyPilgrim
17th April 2006, 08:18 AM
I like the picture. In my mind, the Comic Book Guy should start every sentence with "ACtually..."
...and end it with "now, since my breakfast burrito is rapidly congealing, I must bid you toodle --- ooo"
maybe thats why Amy left.
TimmyBerry
17th April 2006, 08:22 AM
.. I love trolls so much, I almost think I want to be one... :D
Bronze Dog
17th April 2006, 08:49 AM
I don't think He ever does Mef. Seems to follow the routine of 1) start a pointless thread with an outrageous claim about astrally projected unicorns, 2)wait for responses 3) answer responses with vague, unrelated comments, 4) repeat step 1.
May I draw your attention to:
http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1578633&postcount=22
Funny. You might have a thing or two (http://rockstarramblings.blogspot.com/2006/04/rockstars-mailbag-1-sylvia-browne.html) in common with my blog partner.
uruk
17th April 2006, 01:22 PM
69 posts and no response from Amywilson. Just ban the idiot and be done with it.
Wowbagger
17th April 2006, 07:26 PM
Troll or not, I sometimes like to post stuff on these sort of threads, after a whole bunch of people get suckered into it before me. It's good practice for generating verbiage for real discussion threads.
Bronze Dog
18th April 2006, 06:43 AM
I'm holding out for the kittens.
MRC_Hans
18th April 2006, 07:03 AM
What is it with you people? How can some completely inane OP, from a poster you all KNOW will probably not return to the thread, let alone present a shred of anything that could be mistaken for an argument, draw several pages (OK, two pages, so far) of replies?
I mean, I'm an old troll-feeder meself, but at least those put up a fight.
Perhaps we should seek out Jedi Knight and Franko and beg them to come back here, so we did not need to bother with this kind of trash? :dio:
Hans :rolleyes:
Bronze Dog
18th April 2006, 07:19 AM
But it's not about the OP anymore. It's about rakshasa kittens! ;)
GreyPilgrim
18th April 2006, 07:31 AM
What is it with you people? How can some completely inane OP, from a poster you all KNOW will probably not return to the thread, let alone present a shred of anything that could be mistaken for an argument, draw several pages (OK, two pages, so far) of replies?
I mean, I'm an old troll-feeder meself, but at least those put up a fight.
Perhaps we should seek out Jedi Knight and Franko and beg them to come back here, so we did not need to bother with this kind of trash? :dio:
Hans :rolleyes:
Wasn't a complete write off though. I found a whole new range of smileys. My jaw droppeth open. :jaw-dropp
De_Bunk
4th May 2006, 08:03 AM
Amywilson
Yes..i'd like to see some proof..
its true :)
DB
DigitalHoser
5th May 2006, 08:37 AM
I think honestly, we were created, but we DID evolve. When you look at the evidence, it proves it, however I am NOT a monkey's uncle. I'm a gorilla's uncle. I refuse to have any relationship to those scatterbrain primates.
Of course, God has to have a sick sense of humor to make US. Look who he created.
(Points to Amy... and laughs.)
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