RandFan
13th April 2006, 11:18 AM
My final post. Please note that the video referenced was not Loose Change. If you really want to see it there is a link on that thread a page or two back. I'm not putting in any more time on this. I'm sure that my time there had potential but at what cost? One of the moderators called me a monster. I've been called a clown and stooge simply for disagreeing. The people there can turn on a dime. I've had enough.
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2154&st=60
The man is an honest one. What makes me say that? He lost his job at LAPD and risked his life to fight an injustice! He did not profit from that, quite the opposite! You are making a number of assumptions. Not everyone who loses his or her job did so because they are honest. Also the man does sell books and tapes and solicits donations so it's not correct to say he doesn't profit from his actions. If you are saying that he only takes in enough to keep his cause going then that is worthy to note. However that would only prove that he is sincere about what he is doing and not that he is correct. In any event I was not impressed with the video to say the least. There was very little substance. Lot's of conjecture and bits of memos here and there without context. I didn't see any impartiality but a man trying to prove his POV.
Analyzed from a critically thinking stand point it fails. From the very start where he wants the audience to focus on the hands of the CIA director. Believe whatever you want folks but that is not evidence of anything and would be a red flag for any person who is viewing this video critically. If you assume for a moment, for argument sake, that the CIA is not in the business of selling drugs then you come to the conclusion that this man is in a room of people who honestly believe that he is targeting them for genocide. I dare any of you to go into such a room and not be uncomfortable.
The only context given for many of the quotes is provided by the narrator. That is not how one objectively provices evidence. If this gentleman were presenting this to a group of detectives or college professors or any other group who are trained to think critically they would demand answers or walk out.
It is simply bereft of anything substantive. I'm not saying that there couldn't be anything there I'm saying that I did not see anything there that stands on its own or causes me to conclude that this man's hypothesis is correct.
Folks, if those things don't give you pause then there is probably not much more I can offer.
I bear you no ill will. I say that honestly. By all means ridicule me and call me a stooge. I'm a big boy and came here with my eyes open.
Thanks to killtown, redpillneo and FM258. I appreciate the kind words and willingness to engage me in conversation.
If you are ever interested stop by www.randi.org (http://www.randi.org). You can find me there.
All my best, RandFan
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=2154&st=60
The man is an honest one. What makes me say that? He lost his job at LAPD and risked his life to fight an injustice! He did not profit from that, quite the opposite! You are making a number of assumptions. Not everyone who loses his or her job did so because they are honest. Also the man does sell books and tapes and solicits donations so it's not correct to say he doesn't profit from his actions. If you are saying that he only takes in enough to keep his cause going then that is worthy to note. However that would only prove that he is sincere about what he is doing and not that he is correct. In any event I was not impressed with the video to say the least. There was very little substance. Lot's of conjecture and bits of memos here and there without context. I didn't see any impartiality but a man trying to prove his POV.
Analyzed from a critically thinking stand point it fails. From the very start where he wants the audience to focus on the hands of the CIA director. Believe whatever you want folks but that is not evidence of anything and would be a red flag for any person who is viewing this video critically. If you assume for a moment, for argument sake, that the CIA is not in the business of selling drugs then you come to the conclusion that this man is in a room of people who honestly believe that he is targeting them for genocide. I dare any of you to go into such a room and not be uncomfortable.
The only context given for many of the quotes is provided by the narrator. That is not how one objectively provices evidence. If this gentleman were presenting this to a group of detectives or college professors or any other group who are trained to think critically they would demand answers or walk out.
It is simply bereft of anything substantive. I'm not saying that there couldn't be anything there I'm saying that I did not see anything there that stands on its own or causes me to conclude that this man's hypothesis is correct.
Folks, if those things don't give you pause then there is probably not much more I can offer.
I bear you no ill will. I say that honestly. By all means ridicule me and call me a stooge. I'm a big boy and came here with my eyes open.
Thanks to killtown, redpillneo and FM258. I appreciate the kind words and willingness to engage me in conversation.
If you are ever interested stop by www.randi.org (http://www.randi.org). You can find me there.
All my best, RandFan