Car CD player not compatible with burning device?

[Bikewer]

I've been burning CDs for some time to play in my car, and have had no problems other than with the occasionally-problematic Windows Media Player burning software. Skips-pops, that sort of thing. The CD-RW was a generic thing that came with the computer.

Recently bought a DVD player- writer so I could play Oblivion. Thing comes with a bunch of software, including Nero for the writing chores. (also a bunch of useless junk like yet-another-media-player)

Anyway, I recorded a couple of CDs with the Nero burner and tried 'em out in the car. Initially, I was very pleased. Sound quality seemed much better than the previous device. After about 30 minutes, the CD started skipping, and then spontaneously ejected. The CD (same brand I've used before) was noticeably warm to the touch. Not quite hot, but definitely warmer than usual.
Tried to re-insert, but it just ejected again. Commercial CDs seem to play fine, as do the CDs I recorded with the previous device.
Any clues? The player seems fine, and the CDs work OK on the drive in the computer!

[tkingdoll]

I've been burning CDs for some time to play in my car, and have had no problems other than with the occasionally-problematic Windows Media Player burning software. Skips-pops, that sort of thing. The CD-RW was a generic thing that came with the computer.

Recently bought a DVD player- writer so I could play Oblivion. Thing comes with a bunch of software, including Nero for the writing chores. (also a bunch of useless junk like yet-another-media-player)

Anyway, I recorded a couple of CDs with the Nero burner and tried 'em out in the car. Initially, I was very pleased. Sound quality seemed much better than the previous device. After about 30 minutes, the CD started skipping, and then spontaneously ejected. The CD (same brand I've used before) was noticeably warm to the touch. Not quite hot, but definitely warmer than usual.
Tried to re-insert, but it just ejected again. Commercial CDs seem to play fine, as do the CDs I recorded with the previous device.
Any clues? The player seems fine, and the CDs work OK on the drive in the computer!

Are you using CD-Rs or CD-RWs?

[Dark Jaguar]

Yep, that makes all the difference. CD-Rs use pretty much the same principle as a normal CD (except they can be burned to once). CD-RWs though, they are different. For exampe, they can't be left in direct sunlight for too long.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-RW

An infra-red laser (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser) beam is employed to selectively heat and melt the crystallized (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal) recording layer into an amorphous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorphous) state or to anneal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annealing_%28metallurgy%29) it at a lower temperature back to its crystalline state. The different reflectance of the resulting areas make them appear like the pits and lands of a prerecorded CD.
A CD-RW recorder can rewrite 700 MiB (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mebibyte) of data to a CD-RW disc roughly 1000 times. CD-RW recorders can also write CD-R (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CD-R) discs. Except for the ability to completely erase a disc, CD-RWs act very much like CD-Rs and are subject to the same restrictions; i.e., they can be extended, but not selectively overwritten, and writing sessions must be closed before they can be read in CD-ROM drive or players. The UDF (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format) 1.5 file system allows CD-RWs to be randomly rewritten, but limits disc storage capacity to roughly 530MB.
Written CD-RW discs do not meet Red Book (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Book_%28audio_CD_standard%29) or Orange Book Part II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Books) standards for prerecorded or recordable CDs (e.g. reduced signal levels). Consequently, CD-RWs cannot be read in CD-ROM drives built prior to 1997. CD-R is considered a better technology for archival purposes as disc contents cannot be modified and manufacturers claim greater longevity.

[BenK]

I had a car CD player that had trouble with CD-Rs untill I used Black Maxell discs.

[Bikewer]

No, these are CD-Rs, Dynex brand I bought at CompUSA. I have used them before without problems.

[Dark Jaguar]

Have you tested the player with normal CDs? That is, have you used any other disks since this started? Anything working?

[tygirwulf]

Have you tried using software other than Nero?

For my car, CD-Rs burned with CD Burner XP Pro skipped a bit, but when I used DeepBurner, problem solved. My DVD burner doesn't like DVDs burned with Nero, but again, DeepBurner is ok, as well as the program I use specifically for burning movie files to a disk.

Also make sure to burn at a fairly slow speed. I burn my music CDs at 4x, not the full 48x they're rated for. I can get away with 8x on DVDs, which is what mine are rated for. Just have to find the combo that works, I suppose.

Whatever your car cd player is, you can probably find an enthusiast board that will cover it and will be able to help you with problems. A board for your particular car will do the trick too if you have a stock system.

[El Greco]

Do any car stereo makers produce these days players that can't read CD-RWs ?

[alfaniner]

You forgot to color the center circle with a green magic marker.


:D

[jimlintott]

CDs can get warm in a car deck because the deck gets warm from the amplifiers in it. The louder you listen the warmer they get. Which is why you should never use stick on labels on your burned CDs if you listen in the car. Label by Sharpie is safest.

Did you try burning it again (on a new blank disc, obviously)? Maybe it is just a bad disc. If other discs work fine then I might suspect that particular disc. Might be a bad burn or damaged in a way that the car deck can't deal with it.

[WildCat]

Anyway, I recorded a couple of CDs with the Nero burner and tried 'em out in the car. Initially, I was very pleased. Sound quality seemed much better than the previous device. After about 30 minutes, the CD started skipping, and then spontaneously ejected. The CD (same brand I've used before) was noticeably warm to the touch. Not quite hot, but definitely warmer than usual.
Tried to re-insert, but it just ejected again. Commercial CDs seem to play fine, as do the CDs I recorded with the previous device.
Any clues? The player seems fine, and the CDs work OK on the drive in the computer!
I have the same problem in my car cd player. Burned cd's don't seem to be able to take the heat very well, they get soft and scratch easily. But it only costs $0.30 to make another one.

[thrombus29]

Have you tried using software other than Nero?

For my car, CD-Rs burned with CD Burner XP Pro skipped a bit, but when I used DeepBurner, problem solved. My DVD burner doesn't like DVDs burned with Nero, but again, DeepBurner is ok, as well as the program I use specifically for burning movie files to a disk.

Also make sure to burn at a fairly slow speed. I burn my music CDs at 4x, not the full 48x they're rated for. I can get away with 8x on DVDs, which is what mine are rated for. Just have to find the combo that works, I suppose.

Whatever your car cd player is, you can probably find an enthusiast board that will cover it and will be able to help you with problems. A board for your particular car will do the trick too if you have a stock system.


I second the burn rate slowdown.

My new car CD player chokes on any disks burned at 52x, but will play ones burned at 16X.

I use Nero.

[NeilC]

I think CD-Rs actually managed to break my car cd player multichanger.

Firstly it started sounding weird. Then I couldn't forward through them and within a day it no longer read any CDs.

I googled it and it appears the particular brand has major probs with CD-Rs.