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Nie Trink Wasser
13th May 2003, 05:40 AM
there is a really sick trend lately of Christians killing their babies and I think more open discussion on the harm that some extremist Christian groups cause is needed.

not all Christian groups are like this, but just like with any religion, they're the complete nutcases that no one has the spine to stand up to.

remember when the lady drowned her children in the tub ?

and recently a lady beat her children to death because "God told her to"........in both cases (if Im not mistaken) all of the children also had biblical names.

they interviewed her pastor and the guy seemed completely insane to me.

what the hell is happening ?

subgenius
13th May 2003, 09:41 AM
Mental illness is rampant.

a fantoche de meia
13th May 2003, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser

and recently a lady beat her children to death because "God told her to"........in both cases (if Im not mistaken) all of the children also had biblical names.

Abraham? Isaac?

NoZed Avenger
13th May 2003, 10:19 AM
And of course, if you see any Christians that also play D&D, its practically a death warrant.

NA

aerocontrols
13th May 2003, 10:24 AM
Originally posted by a fantoche de meia

Abraham? Isaac?

Bad example. Abraham didn't kill Isaac.

Try Jepthath (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=Judges+11&NIV_version=yes&language=english):

28 The king of Ammon, however, paid no attention to the message Jephthah sent him.
29 Then the Spirit of the LORD came upon Jephthah. He crossed Gilead and Manasseh, passed through Mizpah of Gilead, and from there he advanced against the Ammonites. 30 And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD : "If you give the Ammonites into my hands, 31 whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD 's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering."
32 Then Jephthah went over to fight the Ammonites, and the LORD gave them into his hands. 33 He devastated twenty towns from Aroer to the vicinity of Minnith, as far as Abel Keramim. Thus Israel subdued Ammon.
34 When Jephthah returned to his home in Mizpah, who should come out to meet him but his daughter, dancing to the sound of tambourines! She was an only child. Except for her he had neither son nor daughter. 35 When he saw her, he tore his clothes and cried, "Oh! My daughter! You have made me miserable and wretched, because I have made a vow to the LORD that I cannot break."
36 "My father," she replied, "you have given your word to the LORD . Do to me just as you promised, now that the LORD has avenged you of your enemies, the Ammonites. 37 But grant me this one request," she said. "Give me two months to roam the hills and weep with my friends, because I will never marry."
38 "You may go," he said. And he let her go for two months. She and the girls went into the hills and wept because she would never marry. 39 After the two months, she returned to her father and he did to her as he had vowed. And she was a virgin.

Sure she was.

Denise
13th May 2003, 10:25 AM
Not to defend Christianity, but a few Christians commiting murder in an overwhelmingly Christian country is hardly a "trend."

Nikk
13th May 2003, 12:03 PM
Maybe you would prefer ye olde third worlde close to the earth religions such as MUTI ! (http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_1348168,00.html).

"Bushbuckridge - Limpopo police have found the headless and mutilated body of a six-year-old boy after he disappeared from his bed on Monday night.

Fezeka Maphanga's head, arms and genitals had been removed and his remains were dumped in bushes at Marite near Bushbuckridge where they were found at about 09:00 on Tuesday.

"The boy had been sleeping with other four children in a two-roomed house but was missing when everybody woke up on Tuesday morning," said Mopani police spokesperson captain Moatshe Ngoepe.


Police fear the killing is muti related as the arms, the head and the private parts have not been found."


Muti is an african form of magic. The body parts of children are especially valuable.

Christians have their faults but using the body parts of children in religious services are not among them!

Dancing David
13th May 2003, 01:05 PM
In a predominately Xian culture, Xian beliefs will be more common amongst the delusional.

Peace

jj
13th May 2003, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by Dancing David
In a predominately Xian culture, Xian beliefs will be more common amongst the delusional.

Peace

This really is the heart of the issue, I think.