Rove Informs White House He Will Be Indicted

[zakur]

Story (http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/051206Y.shtml)

Within the last week, Karl Rove told President Bush and Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten, as well as a few other high level administration officials, that he will be indicted in the CIA leak case and will immediately resign his White House job when the special counsel publicly announces the charges against him, according to sources.

Details of Rove's discussions with the president and Bolten have spread through the corridors of the White House where low-level staffers and senior officials were trying to determine how the indictment would impact an administration that has been mired in a number of high-profile political scandals for nearly a year, said a half-dozen White House aides and two senior officials who work at the Republican National Committee.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, sources confirmed Rove's indictment is imminent. These individuals requested anonymity saying they were not authorized to speak publicly about Rove's situation. A spokesman in the White House press office said they would not comment on "wildly speculative rumors."

Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, did not return a call for comment Friday.

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Rove is said to have told Bolten that he will be charged with perjury regarding when he was asked how and when he discovered that covert CIA operative Valerie Plame Wilson worked for the agency, and whether he discussed her job with reporters.

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Sources close to the case said there is a strong chance Rove will also face an additional charge of obstruction of justice, adding that Fitzgerald has been working meticulously over the past few months to build an obstruction case against Rove because it "carries more weight" in a jury trial and is considered a more serious crime.

[Regnad Kcin]

If true...

:dig:

[SezMe]

We oughta start a pool on the date when Shrub drops below Nixon's lowest poll level.

[peptoabysmal]

Fitzgerald should have timed it better. If it comes out now, Rove steps down and no one cares by November.

[SezMe]

That assumes, Peppy, that Fitz is a Dem with an agenda. Got evidence?

[gnome]

I think Fitz is probably more interested in making sure he's got enough info for a good case, before he indicts. Think of what an ass he'll look like if he indicts Rove and doesn't have solid evidence and testimony ready.

I think I'll call it "Pulling a Sneddon" -- and his primary motivation is to avoid "pulling a Sneddon".

[WildCat]

Wow, big news if true. But the source (truthout.org) is suspect.

[zakur]

Rove Indictment Report Denied (http://www.nysun.com/article/32727)A spokesman for a top White House aide under scrutiny in a criminal leak probe, Karl Rove, yesterday vigorously denied an Internet report that the political adviser to President Bush was told that he had been indicted on charges of perjury and lying to investigators.

"The story is a complete fabrication," the spokesman for Mr. Rove, Mark Corallo, told The New York Sun. "It is both malicious and disgraceful."

[Renfield]

Working his way up the hierarchy, one step at a time.

I just hope he gets to Bush before his presidency is done. I'd love to see an impeachment.

[fishbob]

"The story is a complete fabrication," the spokesman for Mr. Rove, Mark Corallo, told The New York Sun. "It is both malicious and disgraceful."

Malicious and disgraceful? Isn't that the primary responsibility listed in his job description?

[Tricky]

Working his way up the hierarchy, one step at a time.

I just hope he gets to Bush before his presidency is done. I'd love to see an impeachment.
As glad as I am that this administration is being exposed for the incompetents and (in some cases) sleazebags they are, I don't want to see an impeachment. The last one we had did no good for the country whatsoever. I will be satisfied if we throw the rascals out via the election process. Impeachments just bring gutter politics to the forefront and we already have enough of that from both parties.

[Grammatron]

As glad as I am that this administration is being exposed for the incompetents and (in some cases) sleazebags they are, I don't want to see an impeachment. The last one we had did no good for the country whatsoever. I will be satisfied if we throw the rascals out via the election process. Impeachments just bring gutter politics to the forefront and we already have enough of that from both parties.

Indeed. Last thing anyone should wish for is for Impeachments to become the norm during disagreements.

[thaiboxerken]

Here, I thought impeachments get criminals out of the government.

[Tricky]

Here, I thought impeachments get criminals out of the government.
Nope. Andrew Johnson was impeached essentially for not being cruel enough to the South during reconstruction. You know what Clinton was impeached for. Neither was what you'd call a bad criminal. Neither was removed from office.

Nixon was never impeached, though he probably would have been if he had stayed. But even then, it was because of the cover-up and his stonewalling, not because he had much of anything to do with the Watergate burglery. So if a person really is a crook, it looks like the threat of impeachment is enough.

And if Bush were impeached, a likely effect would be to have all those disaffected Republicans rally to his side to "prevent the injustice". I'd prefer to keep them disaffected.

Bush is an incompetent, probably a liar and one of the worst presidents we've ever had. I cannot see that he is a bad criminal.

[mrfreeze]

I could be completely wrong on this, since I wasn't even close to being born when Watergate occured, but I thought I read that the bugging of watergate was in response to a similar action by the democrats in either that or a previous election?

[DavidJames]

I could be completely wrong on this, since I wasn't even close to being born when Watergate occured, but I thought I read that the bugging of watergate was in response to a similar action by the democrats in either that or a previous election?so?

[mrfreeze]

I was just curious as to whether or not that was the case, as I have had a hard time confirming it, and cannot remember where I originally read it. Sorry to derail like that.

[Luke T.]

Here, I thought impeachments get criminals out of the government.

I prefer they be voted out. Unless they are guilty of blowing up the WTC as a pretense for invading Iraq. Then we should impeach them.

[Luke T.]

I was just curious as to whether or not that was the case, as I have had a hard time confirming it, and cannot remember where I originally read it. Sorry to derail like that.

All The President's Men, see "ratf**king".

[mrfreeze]

Thanks! Now to go find out if the local library has the book.

[Crossbow]

I was just curious as to whether or not that was the case, as I have had a hard time confirming it, and cannot remember where I originally read it. Sorry to derail like that.

To summarize:

By the time Nixon came along, dirty tricks were par for the course.

Both sides routinely spied on one another, tried to sabotage the others meetings and rallies, planted false information and rumors, and so on.

However, both sides were generally careful not to do anything too terribly illegal or unethical or personal because after the election was over, it was quite likely that both sides would have to work together a good bit in order to properly govern.

Now then, Nixon on the other hand, could be quite vindictive and did take things personally, therefore he did not try to restrain his campaign staff when they did do things that were illegal, unethical, or personal because he did not belive that such things were really all that wrong since they had always been done to him in the past.

Where Nixon and his high advisors and aides really got into trouble was when they were shown to be gross liars when they said that they did not know about the dirty tricks, or support the dirty tricks, or approve the dirty tricks, or fund the dirty tricks. In other words, it was not the dirty tricks that was the issue, it was all the lies they told to cover-up their involvement with the dirty tricks that were the issue.

I hope this helps!

[thaiboxerken]

I think they should be charged with treason, and being that this is a wartime situation.....