God tells mom to kill her kids

[Samus]

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/12/slain.children/index.html

Laney has been acting erratically in her jail cell, the sheriff said.

"She goes from a fetal position of crying, to walking around the cell singing gospel music. She stops and prays, then she goes into a crying hysteria," Smith County Sheriff J. B. Smith said. "She all of a sudden realizes what she's done, then she'll go into a flatline, blank stare." Wow, this is pretty messed up.

[Supercharts]

Hopefully God will tell the jury to fry her ass. :mad:

[Skeptical Greg]

Originally posted by Supercharts
Hopefully God will tell the jury to fry her ass. :mad:


What do you think, are the chances she will be ' saved ' while on death row? Then she can join her children in heaven, after she dies...:rolleyes:

[Supercharts]

Infinity to 1. :mad:

[pgwenthold]

I have a question: how come when people claim to be hearing from God nowadays, they are considered insane, but when people of the bible claimed to be hearing from God, they were considered "inspired"?

[Q-Source]

I am against capital punishment for two reasons:

1) because there is nothing that society can benefit from an execution (except financial resource). Death penalty does not have any effect on crimes reduction.

2) because people like Deanna LaJune Laney and Andrea Yates do not deserve death, they deserve to live a long life with all the guilty and suffering for the killing their children.


Q-S

[Dancing David]

Uh, leading question, if you hear voices they are generally considered to have a mental illness. Other cultures are more tolerant of mental illness than the modern ones.

Peace

[pgwenthold]

Originally posted by Dancing David
Uh, leading question, if you hear voices they are generally considered to have a mental illness. Other cultures are more tolerant of mental illness than the modern ones.


So were the people in the bible who heard God speaking to them mentally ill or not?

[Tony]

Originally posted by Q-Source

I am against capital punishment..........




Unless its in Cuba.

[Q-Source]

Originally posted by Tony



Unless its in Cuba.


I have NEVER said that I am for capital punishment in Cuba, you liar.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Q-Source



I have NEVER said that I am for capital punishment in Cuba, you liar.

No, you just make excuses and apologize.

[Q-Source]

Originally posted by Tony


No, you just make excuses and apologize.

Excuses, where? provide links, liar.

And, I have never apologised for anything I have said.

[Michael Redman]

Originally posted by pgwenthold


So were the people in the bible who heard God speaking to them mentally ill or not? Do you mean the people who thought they heard God speaking? Or the people who actually heard God speaking?

[Tony]

Originally posted by Q-Source


Excuses, where? provide links, liar.



You can play stupid all you want. You know that you have made excuses for the extra judicial executions in cuba.

http://host.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18744&perpage=40&highlight=we%20still%20love%20castro&pagenumber=1

And, I have never apologised for anything I have said.

No, you apologize for the executions in cuba. (see link)

[Q-Source]

I know exactly what I have said and nowhere I've said that death penalty is or was justified in Cuba. We are talking about death penalty not about extra judicial executions or killing in self-defense. If you have a problem to distinguish between them, then go and find a dictionary or ask a lawyer.

Your lack of reading comprehension skills make you look ever more stupid than you already are.

Don't make me waste my time on you, loser.

Q-S

[Tony]

Originally posted by Q-Source
I know exactly what I have said and nowhere I've said that death penalty is or was justified in Cuba. We are talking about death penalty not about extra judicial executions or killing in self-defense. If you have a problem to distinguish between them, then go and find a dictionary or ask a lawyer.





Silly me, so you make excuses for extra-judicial executions. I guess the death penalty is ok if the executed is denied the right to a fair trial?


Your lack of reading comprehension skills make you look ever more stupid than you already are.

Does it really? Damn!! Thats something I am going to have to work on.

Don't make me waste my time on you, loser.

I havent made you waste time on me, you have willfully wasted your time.

[arcticpenguin]

Originally posted by Michael Redman
Do you mean the people who thought they heard God speaking? Or the people who actually heard God speaking?
And just how do we tell the difference?

[Michael Redman]

Originally posted by arcticpenguin
And just how do we tell the difference? Well, duh! God tells us! :rolleyes:

You must be a s*up*d A-thi@s% waterfowl, like all your sk*pdi* c%lt believer frien#s. Go &$^*# a really **#^$$*^ #$`@, you m@teri@list f!sh eater! Am I the only *@$ with any sen&e around here? :mad:

[pgwenthold]

Originally posted by Michael Redman
Well, duh! God tells us! :rolleyes:
[/quote

Just like he told Laney?


[quote]
You must be a s*up*d A-thi@s% waterfowl, like all your sk*pdi* c%lt believer frien#s. Go &$^*# a really **#^$$*^ #$`@, you m@teri@list f!sh eater! Am I the only *@$ with any sen&e around here? :mad:

Are you serious?

Michael:

I am God. I'm telling you now, you are an idiot.

[Michael Redman]

Originally posted by pgwenthold
Are you serious? . . . I'm telling you now, you are an idiot.I think it's obvious who the idiot is. :p

[CSSMariner]

Originally posted by pgwenthold


So were the people in the bible who heard God speaking to them mentally ill or not?

The folks in the Bible did not understand mental illness and more importantly did not have any medication for it. YES, they were as mentally disturbed as the modern equivalent. There are some sick puppies out there.

[Roadtoad]

The latest word: Andrea Yates' conviction has been overturned. (http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/metropolitan/2980420)

[Lisa Simpson]

I found the reason why they threw it out interesting. Only because Park Dietz said that there had been an episode of Law & Order with the plot of a woman drowning her children that aired shortly before the real life incident occured. However, there never was an episode of L&O with that plot. Dr. Dietz, who is an advisor to the show, was mistaken. I wouldn't think that would be such a grave error as to be worthy of throwing the whole case out. But then again, the only law I know, I learned from Law & Order. :p

[crimresearch]

I understand that there is an upcoming episode of Law and Order where the defendant tries to get off by having their attorney trick an expert witness into referring to a non-existent TV show.

[Ranb]

Originally posted by Q-Source
..........2) because people like Deanna LaJune Laney and Andrea Yates do not deserve death, they deserve to live a long life with all the guilty and suffering for the killing their children.

I'll be damned if I want to pay for them to live in the relative comfort of a prison for the rest of their likely-to-be-long lives. They deserve a painful death.

The only problem I have with the death penalty is that too many innocent people are put to death by the state.

Ranb

[Eleatic Stranger]

Originally posted by pgwenthold
So were the people in the bible who heard God speaking to them mentally ill or not?

Most of the people in the Bible who heard God speaking to them were probably fictional in large part. The others were mostly mentally ill, whether or not God was actually speaking to them (seriously, read Prophets - it's better than a travelling freak show).

[Skeptic]

I know exactly what I have said and nowhere I've said that death penalty is or was justified in Cuba. We are talking about death penalty not about extra judicial executions or killing in self-defense.

(puzzled look)

So you didn't excuse legal executions in Cuba, but only illegal ones? Isn't extra-judicial execution worse than a judicial one?

[DavidJames]

Originally posted by crimresearch
I understand that there is an upcoming episode of Law and Order where the defendant tries to get off by having their attorney trick an expert witness into referring to a non-existent TV show. Thanks :D Best laugh I had all day.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally posted by Supercharts
Hopefully God will tell the jury to fry her ass. :mad: Why should someone be punished for having a mental illness?

[rightbrain]

Originally posted by Art Vandelay
Why should someone be punished for having a mental illness?

My thoughts exactly. I don't know about Laney, but there doesn't seem to be any question that Andrea Yates is mentally ill. She'd tried to kill herself twice, had been treated for episodes of postpartum psychosis, was hearing voices, and was doing and saying things that alarmed her family.

The prosecution is trying to say the psychiatrist's testimony wasn't that important, but by indicating she was copying a TV show she'd seen, he was implying premeditation, which might sway a jury weighing whether she was insane or not.

I definitely think she should be locked up, but in a hospital, not jail.

On the other hand, I'm not sure why they're so intent on keeping her from killing herself. Her life is effectively over anyway.

I do hope her husband, who urged her to have that last baby against doctors' advice, feels as guilty and miserable as she does. Somehow I doubt it.

[Roadtoad]

Originally posted by rightbrain
I do hope her husband, who urged her to have that last baby against doctors' advice, feels as guilty and miserable as she does. Somehow I doubt it.

He's the one trying to get her conviction overturned. So, at this point, you may be right; having a wife in prison IS rather embarassing.

[TragicMonkey]

Originally posted by Dancing David
Uh, leading question, if you hear voices they are generally considered to have a mental illness. Other cultures are more tolerant of mental illness than the modern ones.

I don't think it's a question of toleration, it's a question of diagnosis. Some ancient cultures considered raving lunatics to be "touched by the gods", and would either drive them out to die in the wilderness or take excellent care of them as acclaimed prophets of the divine. The modern view is to regard such people as being ill, and thus meriting medical treatment rather than curses or hallelujahs. When grandma starts babbling, we don't stick her in a chair and interpret her oracular wisdom, nor do we leave her on the mountainside to die. We get her a CAT scan and some pills.

Previous cultures didn't understand mental illness as we do.