New proof arguement

[Dicon]

At least it's one that I've never heard of before:

How do you explain the constellations? I mean how does the order in which the stars form patterns in the universe? If you take a handfull of pebbles and throw them onto the floor could you by random chance design a pattern like the big dipper, orion, scorpio, cassiopiea, cephus, draco, ursa major, ursa minor, and all the rest of the patterns in the constellations?

(Lifted from here (http://seattle.craigslist.org/rnr/162762832.html).)

There you have it folks... the mere fact that seven stars, when observed from our particular place in the universe, happen to look like the crude outline of a laddle is proof positive for design!

[slingblade]

Not the fact that the human brain is hardwired for pattern recognition.

I suppose God's also a Bugs Bunny fan, which explains the cloud formation I saw two days ago.

[Whydoe]

I love the "Get over yourself" line. And god being very self confident. Isn't that breaking some universal law being that god is supposed to be omni-present. How can you not be self confident if you ARE everything and everywhere.

[strathmeyer]

But would I be a good Messiah with my low self-esteem?
If I don't believe in myself would that be blasphemy?

~ Bloodhound Gang, Hell Yeah, One Fierce Beer Coaster

[Beerina]

How do you explain the constellations? I mean how does the order in which the stars form patterns in the universe? If you take a handfull of pebbles and throw them onto the floor could you by random chance design a pattern like the big dipper, orion, scorpio, cassiopiea, cephus, draco, ursa major, ursa minor, and all the rest of the patterns in the constellations?

Why, yes. That's exactly how it works!

The pattern-recognizing mind detecting...patterns...in randomness. See also "EVP" (Electronic Voice Phenomena), devil faces in WTC smoke, Jesus H. Christ on a taco shell, et al. ad nauseum...

[Darat]

At least it's one that I've never heard of before:



(Lifted from here (http://seattle.craigslist.org/rnr/162762832.html).)

There you have it folks... the mere fact that seven stars, when observed from our particular place in the universe, happen to look like the crude outline of a laddle is proof positive for design!


But hold on in the UK it isn't the Big Dipper it's the Plough....

[hipparchia]

But hold on in the UK it isn't the Big Dipper it's the Plough....

It's the Big Bear in my neck of the woods, we call the plough part/dipper the Bear. When a kid, I thought this bear had quite a long neck...

[Anacoluthon64]

But hold on in the UK it isn't the Big Dipper it's the Plough....

To us in the Southern Hemisphere it's just a Northern Hemisphere myth that supports your sad-***** version of ID. The Southern Cross, ah now there's some real proof that god did it... :rolleyes:

'Luthon64

[gfunkusarelius]

ha, that was an exercise i learned in college and still use today. take scraps of paper, yarn, or even close your eyes and scribble on a paper, then look at it and see what shapes have formed. i can see faces in almost any drivel. what a ridiculous argument.

[Dr Adequate]

:dl:

Thanks.

[Dicon]

But hold on in the UK it isn't the Big Dipper it's the Plough....

Further proof that the USA is god's chosen land. You offend him by not recognizing his star patterns for what they are.

I'll be visiting London for the first time next month, and I see that I'm going to have to spend some time converting all you plough-worshipping heathens.

[SuperCoolGuy]

Did you people not see the title:

"Proof of God (Here it is finally now shut your traps)"

All you atheists were wrong. Just admit it. Evolution can't explain a solar SYSTEM. God obviously designed the zodiac. Just look at Orion! You guys should learn about Zeus, I mean Jesus. Wait . . . what?

[wollery]

Do you think that it would be of any use to point out to him that if you can't see any patterns then it isn't a random distribution?

[Beleth]

Good thing that got posted somewhere where he can't get feedback....

[Dicon]

Good thing that got posted somewhere where he can't get feedback....

Actually, there was a pretty good response to it:
http://seattle.craigslist.org/rnr/162932051.html

Being craigslist, however, it was buried in with all the other tripe in the Rants 'n Rave section.

[SPQR]

I wonder what people will think in a couple hundred thousand years, if humans still believe in astrology, when the stars that form the constellations are either gone or have moved.

Will humans makeup more imaginary beings in the sky? Or will humans finally accept that what stars make what shapes in the sky does not make a difference?

Hmmm...

[c4ts]

Did you people not see the title:

"Proof of God (Here it is finally now shut your traps)"

All you atheists were wrong. Just admit it. Evolution can't explain a solar SYSTEM. God obviously designed the zodiac. Just look at Orion! You guys should learn about Zeus, I mean Jesus. Wait . . . what?

And this is why the five heavenly orbs are filled with dead people.

[chance]

To us in the Southern Hemisphere it's just a Northern Hemisphere myth that supports your sad-***** version of ID. The Southern Cross, ah now there's some real proof that god did it... :rolleyes:

'Luthon64

Abso-bloody-lutely, northern hemisphere bias, can’t see past their own horizon. The southern cross is proof positive that Jesus was born in Australia. Although it possible it was New Zealand, no one (well no one worth considering) seriously believes that God would pick such an insignificant little bunch if islands, (Frozen continents, nor those spanning both hemispheres, or itty bitty little islands count either) so there, it's Australia.

[c4ts]

Abso-bloody-lutely, northern hemisphere bias, can’t see past their own horizon. The southern cross is proof positive that Jesus was born in Australia. Although it possible it was New Zealand, no one (well no one worth considering) seriously believes that God would pick such an insignificant little bunch if islands, (Frozen continents, nor those spanning both hemispheres, or itty bitty little islands count either) so there, it's Australia.

No, he was born in Siberia and then flipped the world upside-down.

[Admiral]

I wonder what people will think in a couple hundred thousand years, if humans still believe in astrology, when the stars that form the constellations are either gone or have moved.

Will humans makeup more imaginary beings in the sky? Or will humans finally accept that what stars make what shapes in the sky does not make a difference?

Hmmm...

A couple hundred thousand years? Stars have lifespans that last BILLIONS of years- the chances are that not a single star visible to the naked eye will have died in the next few hundred thousand years, even if humans somehow survived that long. And stars don't move across the sky significantly in that time- the constellations would be almost exactly the same.

However, astrology doesn't remain consistent- and has, in fact, changed in the thousands of years since the Babylonians invented the system, because of the precession of the earth's axis. (The precession has a period of 26,000 years, so in 24,000 years, the Babylonians will be right again.) If you want to look up the astrologists' bogus arguments against it, check this out:
http://astrology.about.com/od/yourzodiacsign/l/aa053099.htm

[Meffy]

I can make out eight constellation figures in the pattern of holes in my dentist's acoustic ceiling tiles. Rough approximations anyway. In stucco I see faces and creatures, in clouds I see Internal Revenue Service tax forms. (Well... not the tax forms.)

Funny (but meaningless) thing: in the rooms I've visited at the dentist's office, the installers placed every single tile with the same orientation. Not one of 'em is 90 or 180 degrees off.