PDA

View Full Version : People wanting to leave the world....


the_ignored
17th May 2003, 12:52 PM
Since that "billiefan2000" guy is from the Rapture Ready board, I've decided to go there and look around.

I've found this thread. I don't know if it's funny or sad.

When are we leaving? (http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?threadid=86908) (referring the "the rapture"TM).

arcticpenguin
17th May 2003, 01:36 PM
It sounds like those people are ready to go! I searched the whole page and didn't find any mention of kool-aid or cyanide though.

triadboy
17th May 2003, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by the_ignored
Since that "billiefan2000" guy is from the Rapture Ready board, I've decided to go there and look around.

I've found this thread. I don't know if it's funny or sad.

When are we leaving? (http://rr-bb.com/showthread.php?threadid=86908) (referring the "the rapture"TM).

Wow that's some sad stuff. They be hating life. I will wager since Jebus didn't return when he said he would - he won't return when he didn't say he would. (what the...?)

Peter Jenkins
17th May 2003, 02:52 PM
I'd not been to RR for many months. The whole thing is too tragic.
Last time I was there, a member was telling how his grandmother had recently 'passed' after having waited for the rapture since 1947..........................and no one seemed to find that the least bit ironic.

As I've mentioned before, the the rapture is a relatively new thing in Britain. Many people in Britain would not know what 'the rapture 'is. Those that do, even christians, would , primarily, have heard about this idea from American import shows - mostly comedy shows...........another thing which American Rapture believers don't seem to find ironic.

Peter

triadboy
17th May 2003, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Peter Jenkins
As I've mentioned before, the the rapture is a relatively new thing in Britain. Many people in Britain would not know what 'the rapture 'is. Those that do, even christians, would , primarily, have heard about this idea from American import shows - mostly comedy shows...........another thing which American Rapture believers don't seem to find ironic.

Peter,

That's interesting. I just assumed all goofy Christian people knew about the rapture. So I imagine Europe does not get to watch doomsayer evangelists on Sunday morning TV . I can't get enough of 'em. I actually laugh out loud.

Darwin
17th May 2003, 09:08 PM
Which rapture is it going to be now?
When was the last one?

They are really,really eager to leave,it makes me wish they would leave soon.

evildave
17th May 2003, 09:44 PM
If "rapture" lovers get into power, the question is, will they take the rest of us with them (ala "Press The Button") to make their own little "rapture" come a little quicker?

The "rapture" is just another form of the suicide cult mentality.

Darwin
18th May 2003, 02:54 AM
A noble concern.
But I do not know if they could turn it that way,I have the idea they are happy with their own "extinction".

DialecticMaterialist
18th May 2003, 03:01 AM
Like something from a Stephen King book.

triadboy
18th May 2003, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by evildave
If "rapture" lovers get into power, the question is, will they take the rest of us with them (ala "Press The Button") to make their own little "rapture" come a little quicker?


I don't know if you are serious about 'the button', but take it from me - there is no button. So you can rest easy.

Yahzi
18th May 2003, 01:59 PM
From the board:

I'd much rather go now than be here long enough to see Matrix 2, or anything else.

Well... it's hard to argue with logic like that!

If Jebus gets a move on, he can still save us from Star Wars: Episode III: We Take Your Money and Waste Your Time - AGAIN!

:D

evildave
18th May 2003, 10:56 PM
There is a key. It goes into a device that follows the president wherever he goes. It's called "the football". It requires presidential authorization to release launch codes for the various nuclear weapons. Yes, there are safeguards in place.

If the international situation were balanced on the head of a pin, and could go any particular way, would a rapture-lover be slightly more likely to think "What the heck? It's God's problem! Jesus is comming!" and give the authorization to launch weapons?

Especially if they have ABIDING faith that there is a "Kingdom of Heaven" comming, and nobody *really* dies.

the_ignored
19th May 2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by evildave
There is a key. It goes into a device that follows the president wherever he goes. It's called "the football". It requires presidential authorization to release launch codes for the various nuclear weapons. Yes, there are safeguards in place.

If the international situation were balanced on the head of a pin, and could go any particular way, would a rapture-lover be slightly more likely to think "What the heck? It's God's problem! Jesus is comming!" and give the authorization to launch weapons?

Especially if they have ABIDING faith that there is a "Kingdom of Heaven" comming, and nobody *really* dies.
True. Didn't one of Ronald Reagan's advisers say something like "who cares about the environment, Christ will fix it up when he returns"? I wish I could find that bloody quote!:mad:

Ruby
19th May 2003, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by triadboy

Wow that's some sad stuff.

I agree, very sad!!:( I post on that forum and won't touch that thread.

They be hating life.

Yes, most of them do. They have to have that mindset.


:(

billiefan2000
22nd May 2003, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by triadboy


Peter,

That's interesting. I just assumed all goofy Christian people knew about the rapture. So I imagine Europe does not get to watch doomsayer evangelists on Sunday morning TV . I can't get enough of 'em. I actually laugh out loud.

First of all:

There is no Freedom of Religion in many EU Countries,and second the Preachers in the UK have become so worldly and Lukewarm,they dont count as Christians anymore once they go the Lukewarm Christian Path.

Pahansiri
22nd May 2003, 04:09 PM
Greetings billiefan2000

Can you list all the countries in the EU that do not have freedom of Religion, you said as a statement of fact There is no Freedom of Religion in many EU Countries

Please list all of the many EU countries and proof they have no freedom of religion.

Also it is again sad to see you set yourself up in your religion to be the judge of whom is Christian and who is not one.

If you will you say and second the Preachers in the UK have become so worldly and Lukewarm,they dont count as Christians anymore once they go the Lukewarm Christian Path.

From your wording you believe ALL these Preachers have done as you say may I ask you list all the names of all the preachers in the UK and what actions by the preachers and other proof you have to prove your position please do this on a case by case listing the name and location of each preacher and your proof.

I guess I must assume you will provide all I have asked for as if you do not or can not that would mean you have lied and bearded false witness both sins in your religion.


May I again as I have in the past offer to you these passages from your Bible

Matthew 7:3
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Matthew 7:4
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

Matthew 7:5
Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

Luke 6:41
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Luke 6:42
Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.

Also fitting

Matt. 5:22 Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.

If Anyone among you thinks he is religious, and does not bridle his sharp tongue but deceives his own heart, this ones religion is useless~ JAMES 1:26

My friend if you do not follow these passages in your Bible how can you judge others to be not REAL Christians when clearly you may not be.
:confused:

Captain Spaulding
23rd May 2003, 04:54 PM
Originally posted by triadboy


Peter,

That's interesting. I just assumed all goofy Christian people knew about the rapture. So I imagine Europe does not get to watch doomsayer evangelists on Sunday morning TV . I can't get enough of 'em. I actually laugh out loud.

Which is your favorite? Mine would have to be a guy that's not shown on TV anymore his name is Peter Ruckman he would draw pictures as he was preaching to illustrate his sermons. He was a first class loon and very entertaining.

triadboy
23rd May 2003, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by Captain Spaulding


Which is your favorite? Mine would have to be a guy that's not shown on TV anymore his name is Peter Ruckman he would draw pictures as he was preaching to illustrate his sermons. He was a first class loon and very entertaining.

I really like Roxella (grrr) and Jack Van Impe. Man that whole crew is a riot. He says the most outlandish things and he quotes scripture the whole time he's doing it. Real early in the morning I like to watch this goober out of Arkansas Arnold Murrey. He's funny too.

triadboy
23rd May 2003, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by Captain Spaulding


Which is your favorite? Mine would have to be a guy that's not shown on TV anymore his name is Peter Ruckman he would draw pictures as he was preaching to illustrate his sermons. He was a first class loon and very entertaining.

I remember a crew on the PTL channel (I think) the lady had pink hair and the set was solid gold. Wow, that was entertainment!

billiefan2000
24th May 2003, 08:22 AM
whether you and the others here believe me or not:

http://www.cesnur.org/2001/fr_may22.htm

http://www.persecution.org/humanrights/france.html

http://www.eclj.org/news/euro_news_010620_french_antisect.asp

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/news/020225a.asp

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/011/14.22.html


all prove what is really goin on in France.








Captain Spaulding and triadboy:


I am curious what will you do after the rapture happens?

PygmyPlaidGiraffe
24th May 2003, 08:54 AM
If a significant amount of people do leave this planet via rapture, it sounds like it would leave more elbow room. The demands on the world's resources may be less.

:D

triadboy
24th May 2003, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by billiefan2000
I am curious what will you do after the rapture happens?

The bible says Jesus told the people of his time that he would return within their lifetimes. People kept dying off - but no Jesus. Then when they figured the last of their generation was dead and he hadn't returned - a tale emerged that John was still alive in Patmos. That helped the faith for a while. Eventually, another story needed to be believed.

Jesus has always been scheduled to come back every generation or so. And a big to-do always happened on years with a lot of zeros. (just look at the years 1000 and 2000)

Whether there was an historical Jesus doesn't matter. The created Jesus of the bible never existed. If you would dabble in mythology, you would immediately see frightening similarities between Jesus and Mithra (who predates JC by hundreds of years), Osiris (who predates Jesus by thousands of years) and many more!

The early Church fathers knew about this frightening similarity and it severly bothered them. When you write a song that is obviously plagerized - how can you still claim it to be original?

So - the early Church fathers created the most outlandish tale of them all:

They claimed that Satan (knowing Jesus was coming) created these identical tales hundreds of years earlier to cause confusion and uncertainty when Jesus finally arrived.

These are YOUR church fathers.

Now you tell me - How can you believe anything in the bible? Here's a questionaire for you:

1. How old is the universe? (The latest evidence shows around 14 billion years. Archbishop Ussher pegged it at 4004BC)
2. DNA evidence shows we came from a woman in Africa 50,000 years ago. Do you believe the Adam and Eve story?
3. Why are there 2 creation stories in the bible? (1:1-2:3 and 2:4-2:25)
4. Do you believe we have different languages because of the Tower of Babel incident?
5. Do you believe the story of Noah? Do you know the story of Gilgamesh?
6. Do you believe Jesus was God?
7. Who do you think wrote the New Testament?

I could go on forever.....or at least until the Rupture.

Christianity is a misinterpreted myth. Don't waste your life on it.

Pahansiri
24th May 2003, 10:14 AM
billiefan2000 my friend I ask again does it not bother you to accuse others of 1- being not “real” and being evil or doing things you say are sin when time after time you continue to sin.

I offered you a chance to admit your statements
There is no Freedom of Religion in many EU Countries

and second

the Preachers in the UK have become so worldly and Lukewarm,they dont count as Christians anymore once they go the Lukewarm Christian Path.

are both lies and the bearing of false witness both sins in your religion. I asked the simple questions ones allowing you to prove you were not, well a liar and hypocrite:

question 1- Please list all of the many EU countries and proof they have no freedom of religion.

question 2- From your wording you believe ALL these Preachers have done as you say may I ask you list all the names of all the preachers in the UK and what actions by the preachers and other proof you have to prove your position please do this on a case by case listing the name and location of each preacher and your proof.

You were not honest enough to answer these simple request as a person who was honest was would and a person who had the truth and belief would.

You post several self serving site and these sites you post show you to be telling lies, your own offerings of sites are self destroying like your words.

I.E.

From International Christian Concern speaking of France

Extremist Groups:
bullet No extremist groups have been cited for incidents of persecution in this country.

I believe that places France ahead of the US as many Extremist Groups have harmed many here, many, most of these groups are Christian based, Christian identity .

So here you see this site is already self defeating.

The next quote is most damming as your statement There is no Freedom of Religion in many EU Countries

[/quote]Government:
bullet The law provides for the separation of church and state, but the government provides subsidies for church affiliated private schools and local governments own and provides upkeep for any religious buildings that existed before 1905.[/quote]

The truth is you are free to believe, as you wish in France, I know your concern is only for Christian people and not freedom for all people we have covered this sad and hypocritical belief of yours before. But again my friend and I say this with no disrespect your actions show you to be a liar and also a hypocrite.

You in your statement say There is no Freedom of Religion in many EU Countries

Of course I have shown this law and I do not agree any limits should be placed in the beliefs of others does NOT stop anyone from believing as they want.

Also you said MANY countries yet only post your twisting of the facts in France where are the other many countries?

Also again I find it sad that you only care for suffering or loss of freedom of Christians ( or perceived suffering and loss of freedom) yet care not at all for suffering of other people who are not Christian, sad really.

I have to ask when you face your God can you really say you are a “good” Christian with all these lies, all this hate in your heart?

A person being honest would answer, I do not say you are a bad person or not an honest one I say no one is bad they just do bad things at times. You fall in this group, respect your God really, do what is right.

the_ignored
29th May 2003, 06:51 PM
Another genius (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=948358#post948358) here.

yes, you are right. America is going in the wrong direction with it's morals. Evolution is teached by idiots, and the Holy Bible is being banned by the Quote: " The Supremes " court. I spelled it like that for a point, because the supreme court has lost it's respect and honor by passing so many idiotic laws etc.

Pahansiri
30th May 2003, 07:01 AM
Evolution is teached by idiots,

Sad but no one teached him to English or proper grammar.

Darwin
30th May 2003, 07:36 AM
Do not expect to argue with them.

ebola
1st June 2003, 12:21 PM
I took a quick glance at that board, and all I saw was misery. It is too bad that they seem to want to spread this feeling to otherwise happy, intelligent, and well adjusted atheists. I for one am also anxious for the Rature to take them. When, oh when will we be rid of them?

Eric

the_ignored
7th June 2003, 02:53 PM
Or this: Are you Rapture Ready? (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?threadid=87438)



I like this post (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=964813#post964813):

DO remember to leave letters for those left behind...

Or the sig in this post (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=929966#post929966):
www.Blessed-Hope.com <--- feel free to print out & use my "LEFT BEHIND LETTER" BEFORE we're actually gone!



They are sure serious about this, aren't they?

Ruby
9th June 2003, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by the_ignored
Or this: Are you Rapture Ready? (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?threadid=87438)



I like this post (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=964813#post964813):



Or the sig in this post (http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?postid=929966#post929966):




They are sure serious about this, aren't they?

Yep, they are...unfortunately!!!:(