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c4ts
10th June 2006, 09:58 AM
http://www.fixedearth.com/

"An electromagnet and computerized sensor hidden in its

display stand cause the Earth to levitate motionlessly in the air."

Could God have engineered something like that for the real Earth?

The Bible and all real evidence confirms that this is precisely what He did, and indeed:

The Earth is not rotating...nor is it going around the sun.

The universe is not one ten trillionth the size we are told.

Today’s cosmology fulfills an anti-Bible religious plan disguised as "science".

The whole scheme from Copernicanism to Big Bangism is a factless lie.

Those lies have planted the Truth-killing virus of evolutionism

in every aspect of man’s "knowledge" about the Universe, the

Earth, and Himself.


I WAS RIGHT! IT'S A GIANT DODECHAHEDRON! RANDI BETTER PAY UP! (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=2758&highlight=heavens+go+round+above)

The_Fire
10th June 2006, 10:16 AM
There is only one thing to say to this:


:dl::dl::dl::dl::dl::dl:

Meffy
10th June 2006, 10:31 AM
Without fail Sekhet, the Destroying Sun, will deal with this heresy.

c4ts
10th June 2006, 11:50 AM
Indeed, it was this Copernican heliocentricity concept that gradually broke the back of Bible credibility as the source of Absolute Truth in Christendom. Once the Copernican Revolution had conquered the physical sciences of Astronomy and Physics and put down deep roots in Universities and lower schools everywhere, it was only a matter of time until the Biological sciences launched the Darwinian Revolution.

And then...

http://www.fixedearth.com/nasas_spiritual_roots.htm

We have taken some notice of NASA's goal of certifying evolution thru its "Origins Program". We have also seen how that goal is being achieved thru a modus operandi involving high-tech computer programmed telescope and camera simulations. What needs to be made perfectly clear now are two factors which blow NASA's masquerade as "science" and reveal its true identity as an agent of a religion dedicated to the destruction of New Testament Christianity. Those two factors are: 1) NASA's entire rationale rests on the acceptance of the infinitely squirrelly Big Bang Expanding Universe hypothesis; and 2) That Big Bang hypothesis comes straight out of the Kabbala (Cabala) which is an openly anti-Christian "holy book".

It gets better...

So, the long and the short of it is this: The whole ball of wax--from the Big Bang thru Einsteinian Relativity and NASA's Virtual Reality-based, Bible-bashing evolutionism--stems not from one single scientific fact, but rather, HAS ITS TAPROOT IN MYSTICAL KABBALISM.
Not only do they think the Kaballah is an accurate model of the Big Bang, but it's part of a conspiracy to destroy Christianity. And Einsten (who originally proposed a static universe) was part of it!

A non-moving earth at the center of our universe--with the sun and a stellatum of stars going round every day--is still a model that explains all the important phenomena in the known (i.e., the REAL, non VR) universe.

Thus, in spite of a world persuaded otherwise, Biblical cosmology stands just as impregnable in the 21st century as it did in 1600 AD. The Apollonian Model particularly shows the Earth at the center of the universe with a band of stars all around. Inside the misnamed "solar" system all the planets and the sun and the moon and the stars orbit the Earth, (The Earth is not a planet...which word means "wanderer" and--like "solar" system and capitalizing the planet's names and using the small "e" for Earth--are all just clever little indoctrination tools).

That counterfeit system demands that the Earth rotate on an "axis" every 24 hours...at a speed of over 1000 MPH at the equator. No one has ever, ever, ever seen or felt such movement (nor seen or felt the 67000MPH speed of the Earth's alleged orbit around the sun...or its 500,000 MPH alleged speed around a galaxy...or its retreat from an alleged "Big Bang" at over 670,000,000 MPH! )
Let me guess: Newton was a Jewish Kabbalist, too.

Unfortunately, neither these folks nor knowledgeable creationists seem to have a clue that NASA is the agent being used to put Creationism on the mat for the full count. Consequently neither group can see that the Devil is on the verge of winning this critical match with his use of fraudulent VR simulation technology (HERE - HERE) propelled by and undergird by the multi-faceted religion of mystical Kabbalism, which, along with Talmudism, are the sworn enemies of Christianity (HERE - HERE). Thru NASA (and a host of other powerful evolution fronts: See: Time, 1/17/00,p.76), Satan intends to place man's new god for the 21st century--namely, anti-Bible Kabbalist Humanist-Paganism (HERE -HERE)--firmly in the driver's seat of a One World Government.
Satan teamed up with NASA to fake the whole universe with virtual reality headgear! More on this here... (http://www.fixedearth.com/Virtual%20Reality%20Fraud.htm)

And this is how they faked it:
WFPC2 Planetary Camera Simulator...: "...to extract information about the faint end of the Luminosity Function, A MEANS OF CREATING SIMULATED IMAGES IS NEEDED. For this I have written a program TO MAKE A SIMULATED IMAGE.... This program takes into account a number of features of the Wide Field and Planetary Camera 2, SPECIFICALLY THE PLANETARY CAMERA PART. The general outline is:

....

Fill the image with stars

Divide the image with the flat field

Add poisson noise to the image

Add gaussian real-out noise to the image

Add bias to the image

Save the histograms [graphs of frequency vibrations] of the raw AND SIMULATED IMAGES

Seriously. I cannot make this up. It must be true.

Oh, they're also holocaust deniers:
[Fortunately, a goodly percentage of Jews are either hostile to Zionism or passive about it. Many in the first category are strict Bible Creationists, and not a few are coming out against the Copernican root of all the wild cosmological fantasies bearing on the origin of the universe and life. It is time for Jews who are real scientists to step up to the plate and hit some homers for true science and send their theoretical science bosses--Jew and Gentile alike--back to the minors. Finklestein has stepped up to denounce the Holocaust Industry; Gabler has revealed Jewish control of Hollywood from the start; Koestler et al have revealed the Khazar ancestry of modern Jews; Sack et al have certified Zionist racism and Talmud-based vindictiveness against everything non-Zionist; and so on. It’s time now for Jewish scientists who love true science to stand up with other scientists of like values and expose the theorists who are using every means to destroy real science and replace it with science-fiction fantasies....

Dancing David
10th June 2006, 02:04 PM
I sure didn't expect this!

From science proves the bible is true

I was hoping something funnier would spring up, but under historical revision we find , and I am shocked, blatant antisemitism.

Who runs this whack job site?


A few scholarly writings in the last three decades or so of the 20th century dared to challenge another profitable and heretofore untouchable sacred cow, namely, the sacrosanct Holocaust saga. Now, just in the last few years, these challenges have blossomed into a vigorous guerilla warfare on the Net, a warfare where very able presentations of the Revisionist findings on the subject helped propel the issue onto a world stage (except in the U.S.?!) in the opening months of the new millennium. The self-taught, highly successful British historian, David Irving (whose Net presence deserves the “awesome” label), represented himself in a libel suit and lost. The fact that his adversaries had an unlimited war chest which was augmented not only by major Jewish Organizations, but reportedly, by the bottomless pockets of Spielberg and Bronfman, did not bode well for Irving from the outset...particularly in a non-jury trial. Irving lost the court battle, big time. However, his adversaries have been raging against the publicity the man and the issue received during and since the trial, with some even saying the decision was a Pyrrhic Victory at best. The cat very nearly got out of the bag there in London, and the pressure to make sure that impertinent feline stays in that bag is furious and growing. Indeed, the pressure to make all challenges (no matter how factual and reasonable) to the Holocaust 6,000,000 mantra a “hate crime” everywhere is straining to escalate in Britain and the U.S.

Wow ,

Scratch a nut job and find a nazi.

I am truly shocked and amazed.

Dancing David
10th June 2006, 02:08 PM
This is alittle more up to speed in your standard woo dom

A Summary of the Overwhelming

Mathematical Evidence of the

Divine Inspiration of the Scriptures


A converted Russian nihilist, Ivan Panin, graduated from Harvard in 1882 as a mathematician. He then spent 50 years (wow!) on deciphering the mind-blowing mathematical structure of the Bible from the first word to the last. Since every letter in every word of the Hebrew and Greek manuscripts also has a numerical equivalent, every letter, word, phrase, sentence, paragraph, and even every subject has a definite arithmetical sum.


What follows is a severely abbreviated example of the kinds of phenomena Dr. Panin discovered when working with those numerical equivalents...regardless of whether they pertained to a given subject such as the genealogy of Christ, or a book of the Bible, or the Bible in its entirety. Marvel at each of these as you read:


The number of words in the vocabulary will divide by the number seven.

The number of words beginning with a vowel is divisible by seven.

The number of words beginning with a consonant is divisible by seven.

The number of letters in the vocabulary of a subject (like the genealogy of Christ) is divisible by seven.

Of these letters, those which are consonants and those which are vowels both divide by seven.

The number of words occurring more than once is divisible by seven. Those occurring only once likewise divide by seven.

The number of nouns is divisible by seven. The number that are not nouns divides by seven.

The number of proper names divides by seven. The male names divide by seven. The female names divide by seven.

The number of words beginning with each of the letters of the alphabet is divisible by seven.


Having explained the function of numeric and place values in the Hebrew and Greek languages in Scripture, it is noted by way of example that the value of the word "Jesus" in Greek is 975, of which the numeric value is 888, and the place value is 87. These features produced these astonishing results in addition to the previous examples:


The numeric value of the vocabulary is divisible by seven.

The numerical value of the various alphabetical groups of words is divisible by seven.

The numerical value of the various forms in which the words occur produce the same phenomenon.


Dr. Panin challenged any person to write one paragraph of 300 words intelligently and produce some numeric phenomena of like designs, and complete it within six months. Anyone who could do it would prove himself/herself a wonder. No takers.

c4ts
10th June 2006, 02:30 PM
Who runs this whack job site?


Marshall Hall, author of The Earth Is Not Moving. Says so on the front page.

Tricky
10th June 2006, 03:41 PM
Heliocentricity is a lie. The sun is not in the exact center of the solar system, otherwise no asteroids would ever crash into it.

Okay, it's close.

Meffy
10th June 2006, 04:25 PM
Has this -- pardon the expression -- numbskull been notified of the invention of the telescope? (So anyone can look into deep space and see the same stuff NASA supposedly "faked.") The discovery of stellar parallax? (Which is to say, incontrovertible evidence that at least some stars are not at the same distance as others.)

Hardly surprising he's a wild-eyed antisemite into the deal.

@Tricky: Thinking of the overall center of gravity of the Sun-all-the-planets system? I was. [edit] If so, isn't that fitting for a "radical centrist?"

Mojo
10th June 2006, 04:30 PM
I WAS RIGHT! IT'S A GIANT DODECHAHEDRON!Nonsense! Everyone knows the world has FOUR (http://www.timecube.com/) corners!

Meffy
10th June 2006, 04:57 PM
Twelve Face Monthly Calendar (With Custom Logo Or Message Imprint) Time Dodecahedron like sooo totally r3wlz0rz that old boring Time Cube.

Zep
10th June 2006, 05:08 PM
Or it's a spoof. Hmmm??

c4ts
10th June 2006, 05:41 PM
Heliocentricity is a lie. The sun is not in the exact center of the solar system, otherwise no asteroids would ever crash into it.

Okay, it's close.

And that's why when a really big asteroid hits the Earth, the whole universe moves!

Or it's a spoof. Hmmm??

I'd like to think so, but there are no links to parody sites, no joke merchandice, or a discussion forum full of jokers. This looks as serious as Timecube. The sheer volume of information suggests too much work for a spoof, but I could be wrong. Either way, this now tops Aristotle Guy as the funniest thing on the net.

Oh, also a serious book review by creationist authors:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/geocentrism_review.asp
But the Bible clearly says the Earth is at the center of the universe! Why do they deny God's holy word? They will burn in the Hellfire! Seems like quite a few of them are on the same page when it comes to expanding universe theory.

CplFerro
10th June 2006, 05:53 PM
Hardly surprising he's a wild-eyed antisemite into the deal.


Dear Meffy,

Why is someone who points out the religious nature of The Holocaust suddenly a "wild-eyed antisemite"? (He may be wild-eyed about astronomy but then, hey, scepticism helps the world.) Does the author of the site describe his plans to shove all Jews into microwave ovens, or did I miss something?

Cpl Ferro

Tony
10th June 2006, 07:32 PM
This is the logical conslusion of fundy style biblical literalism.

Tricky
10th June 2006, 08:32 PM
@Tricky: Thinking of the overall center of gravity of the Sun-all-the-planets system? I was. [edit] If so, isn't that fitting for a "radical centrist?"
Oh no, paradox! I am undone!

c4ts
10th June 2006, 10:27 PM
This is the logical conslusion of fundy style biblical literalism.

You might be asking a bit too much of them.

Anyway, I don't see why the geocentric universe is any more ridiculous compared to Hovind and company. It just lacks Hovind's scientism and relies too much on the Protocols of Zion. Hall's interpretations are only "wrong" because he didn't try to cram them full of a scientific sounding interpretation that coincides with the current scientific model (which conveniently includes everything but the stuff that contradicts other parts of the Bible).

Arkan_Wolfshade
11th June 2006, 04:51 AM
Heliocentricity is a lie. The sun is not in the exact center of the solar system, otherwise no asteroids would ever crash into it.

Okay, it's close.

That, and Sol is not the center of the galaxy, or universe.

Ladewig
11th June 2006, 06:30 AM
opps

Meffy
11th June 2006, 07:12 AM
@CplFerro: Tell ya what -- you interpret the rantings however you want, and I'll interpret them as I choose. I've no interest in trying to convince you to change your opinions to match mine. 'Kay? Good.

@Tricky: No, not a paradox, it's an example of fittingness and apropos-itude. You aren't undone, you're done! It's a comprehensive declaration; we can safely omit the "stick a fork in it" test. (I hate when that happens.)

Dr Adequate
11th June 2006, 10:00 AM
The Earth stands still

Lots of funny quotes here.

c4ts
11th June 2006, 10:31 AM
Dear Meffy,

Why is someone who points out the religious nature of The Holocaust suddenly a "wild-eyed antisemite"? (He may be wild-eyed about astronomy but then, hey, scepticism helps the world.) Does the author of the site describe his plans to shove all Jews into microwave ovens, or did I miss something?

Cpl Ferro

You did miss something.

That assumption--as Kabbalist scientists and scholars themselves have recently revealed after two millennia of secrecy on the matter--is no longer valid. The facts as they are now known reveal that all of the essential features of the Evolution Paradigm are derived from, and are the fulfillment of, the writings of Rabbinic Kabbalists dating at least to the 1st century A.D.

This new mindset was indisputably foundational for the success of Bible-denying Darwinian evolutionism that was the next thing the Devil was to send down the road, attired fetchingly again as "science".

In other words, The Devil faked science to allow the Jews to fake evolution. He is saying that Jews cooperated with the Devil, and he is holding them responsible for Satan's work. I don't know if this makes him "wild eyed," but his vehement opposition to Juddaism lands him in the category of "anti-semite."

Meffy
11th June 2006, 02:49 PM
Thanks, you've a stronger stomach than I. If justified, I will amend my evaluation of the author from wild-eyed to anxious-nosed.