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Kopji
15th June 2006, 10:28 PM
The recent "Woody" wildfire near Flagstaff was fought with well coordinated fire teams and competent leadership.

Within minutes of the fire breaking out, a truck was on the scene. Fanned by wildly changing 60+ mph winds it quickly threatened hundreds of homes.

Within an hour fire teams, slurry tankers, helicopters, and fire crews were all on the job. The air drops are coordinated by a traffic controller who flies high above the scene and directs air strikes. A lower controller monitors and directs the actual drops. Targets and drop loads are selected by computer and very precise. The pilots fly at almost treetop level when making their runs.

Evacuations were handled smoothly, even though some people had only a few minutes warning.

Fire crews quickly arrived from other parts of the state and, larger tankers from Utah.

Fortunately, the fire started in an area where some new fire science was being applied. The somewhat controversial technique is to simply thin the forest and clear out 'doghair' trees. Instead of racing quickly across the crowns of the trees, the fire tends to drop to the ground in the thinned areas. This makes it easier to fight, and in fact a 'ground fire' is often viewed as a healthy fire as it burns undergrowth without fatally damaging trees.

The fire was brought under control overnight and allowed to burn itself out within the perimeter.

rocketdodger
15th June 2006, 10:42 PM
You live near the mugeeyawn rim?

Zep
16th June 2006, 06:52 AM
They were saying it was going to be a firey summer, what with no snow over winter. Where exactly was this fire near Flagstaff?

kalen
16th June 2006, 07:52 AM
Sounds like they got their act together. Gotta wonder though, just how many fires it took to figure out the best way to fight them.

........ must .... resist ... terrorist .... analogy .......

Kopji
16th June 2006, 10:34 PM
zep
The fire started near Woody Mountain Road so it was called the 'Woody fire'. This would put it at the junction of I40 and Woody Mountain Road.

In a weird twist of making perfect sense, fires are almost always named by the very first fire crews on the scene. The names are almost always easy to pronounce, and make good geographic sense. If two fires grow into one, the two names are hyphenated, like "rodeo-chedeski". (Spelling not checked).

I was about 100 yards away while it was still small. Everything was blowing different directions as if it were a large whirlwind. The movement of the smoke was almost indescribable. The closest I could compare it to would be a giant version of a steam locomotive. The smoke not only rises, it was driven upward.

I heard later that the Arizona 'first responders' were all at a big meeting in Phoenix, nice timing but the crews we got were great even if they were not important enough to be at the meeting. Hey maybe we don't need those other guys who were at the meeting... :-)

kalen
Too late on the terror comparisons. Bush flew through here a couple years ago when we had another big fire south of here and compared it to the fight against terrorism. Not a comparison I take much comfort in. We should compare things to terrorism sparingly...

rocketdoger
An interesting linguistic question. "yeah" Locally we would say I lived on the rim, even though the actual rim is miles away. you know how it is here.

It's funny what you grab when you think you will evacuate. Close the dog door and round up the cats so if you need to get out they will be around. A few hard to replace papers like passports and cash. Maybe the old family bible so I won't get pummeled for leaving it behind. Otherwise it is all just stuff.

Had a couple friends that had to evacuate, they stayed with relatives and did not go to the local high school. Several hundred evacuated, but only 25 or so stayed at the high school. The local Red Cross is staffed mostly by volunteers and reacted quickly.

The main impact to the city was that the power was cut to about 30% of the water well pumps. This created something of a temporary water crisis. The police were driving around making sure nobody was watering their yards.

peptoabysmal
17th June 2006, 08:17 AM
It's funny what you grab when you think you will evacuate. Close the dog door and round up the cats so if you need to get out they will be around. A few hard to replace papers like passports and cash. Maybe the old family bible so I won't get pummeled for leaving it behind. Otherwise it is all just stuff.


Amen to that. A few decades ago, I was awakened by shattering glass, bombs exploding and shrapnel flying. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time. I literally jumped into my clothes and grabbed a small dog I had befriended. That's all I left there with; one set of clothes, a dog and ringing ears.