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hipparchia
16th June 2006, 03:52 AM
This recently hit the post at the newspaper where I work: Google bought some land. On this land, in Oregon, it plans to build a supercomputer the size of two football fields (I don't know- soccer or football, but large is large).

"Google on secret mission to beat rivals

By Catherine Elsworth, Telegraph Group


Los Angeles: Google is secretly developing what is thought to be one of the world's most powerful supercomputers in its most ambitious attempt to outstrip rivals Yahoo and Microsoft.

The internet firm is building a vast complex the size of two football pitches with cooling towers four floors high on a remote stretch of barren land in Oregon. It is thought to house two huge data centres and thousands of Google servers that will help power the billions of search queries it handles daily as well as an expanding range of other services.

The secret expansion on the 12-hectare site 129km east of Portland is thought to be part of an "arms race" as other online companies vie for Google's crown. Microsoft has unexpectedly announced it is to spend £1.08 billion (Dh7.3 billion) next year, largely aimed at making up ground on Google. Bill Gates's company intends to quadruple its number of internet servers to 800,000 in 25 locations across the globe by 2011. Google, which currently runs 450,000 servers worldwide, will boost its capacity with an injection of £814 million (Dh5,502 million).

Microsoft and Yahoo have also announced plans to build multi-billion-dollar data centres elsewhere in the Pacific North West, which is home to cheap electricity from hydropower and existing data networks.

The scope of the new Google plant, on the banks of the Columbia River in The Dalles, Oregon, appears to outstrip its rivals. It is being seen as a key part of the company's drive to hone the fastest, most comprehensive data search system in line with its mission statement to "organise the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful".

Many analysts interpret Google's ever-growing range of services as an attempt to muscle in on territory historically dominated by its rivals such as computer operating systems, online shopping, e-mail, music and video technology.

The new Google "power plant" is shrouded in secrecy. Known as Project 02, it has already created hundreds of jobs.

The new Oregon centre will form just a part of Google's global computing system, called the Googleplex, which is growing at such a rapid rate its exact size remains a constant topic of speculation.

The company recently opened a similar data centre in Atlanta, Georgia, amid comparable secrecy. The building has no signs or logos and local authorities are pledged to silence."

What's your opinion on this? What are the implications? Just asking for personal information, nothing is coming out in print in the Bulgarian press:)

Zep
16th June 2006, 05:55 AM
It's a black helicopter factory.

Molinaro
16th June 2006, 12:56 PM
My opinion is that Google is doing exactly what I would expect them to do.

The implications are that Google is a still growing company.

This just strikes me as a 'ho-hum .. so-what' kind of story. Are you looking to see if anyone sees this as the start of Skynet or something equaly sinnister?

rdaneel
16th June 2006, 05:14 PM
They probably just needed room to add more Pigeons (http://www.google.com/technology/pigeonrank.html).

hipparchia
19th June 2006, 01:43 AM
This just strikes me as a 'ho-hum .. so-what' kind of story. Are you looking to see if anyone sees this as the start of Skynet or something equaly sinnister?

My editor thought this quite significant, but he is a history major, so I decided to ask whether this is really sinister and newsworthy. Will it "kill PCs" (not pigeons:)-as the aforementioned editor said, by allowing one to use internet merely with a monitor, mouse and keyboard, all other parts based in those supercomputers.

egslim
20th June 2006, 03:59 AM
Will it "kill PCs" as the aforementioned editor said, by allowing one to use internet merely with a monitor, mouse and keyboard, all other parts based in those supercomputers.
No, it won't. What you describe is nothing more than a dumb terminal, which was made obsolete by the introduction of cheap pc's during the eighties and nineties.
Only difference is, these are in color and probably have stereo sound.

The reasons are simple. It's possible to build a (weak) pc for some $ 250, excluding monitor - which you need for a terminal as well. However, a terminal requires an internet connection with more bandwidth and far better reliability. The price-premium for that will easily eat up the initial $ 250 savings over a period of three years, and probably far more.

Performance can be divided into two parts, bandwidth and computational. A pc has far more internal bandwidth available than the terminal with its server. And if you really need more computational power, a pc can log into a computerfarm as well as any terminal. So the terminal has no advantage there, either.

And there's reliability. If the computerfarm (or any internetserver between the farm and terminal) goes blank, so do all the terminals. Pc's crash too, but they can easily be replaced.