Logic: "Cat is Alive/Dead"

[American]

Let's go back to when it was OK to torture animals (but well after it stopped being OK to torture people). You put a cat in a box, and shoot it (the box). We all know the bullet can miss or possibly kill the cat.


Take the same experiment, but now use a grenade instead of a bullet. What can we conclude about this that we couldn't conclude before?


Answer: the same thing that tells me I know what's inside of a black hole! The cat's dead. I don't need to look and see, cause I seen a lot of things in my day and there's a 99.999% chance that the cat is dead. If it isn't then it coulda been magic or some kind of a trick to slip me up!


I'm too quick for that. I KNOW the cat would be a goner.

[Roadtoad]

Okay, maybe it's because it's been a looooooong day on the road...

There was a point to this?

[Lord Kenneth]

Why a cat, and not UnrepentantSinner?

[Roadtoad]

Originally posted by Dark Cobra
Why a cat, and not UnrepentantSinner?

I'd thought of that, except I would have suggested Win or Ex-latin. Of course, they'd bitch about being in the box...

[American]

Originally posted by Dark Cobra
Why a cat, and not UnrepentantSinner?

Just to upset PETA.

[Upchurch]

The part that I find funny is that he chose the name "American". Meaning I now have to use the term "Stupid American" when I hate that steriotype.

[Marvel Frozen]

If the cat is Schrodinger's cat, then you can't know whether the cat is dead or not (I suppose only the cat really knows in that case).

[American]

Originally posted by Marvel Frozen
If the cat is Schrodinger's cat, then you can't know whether the cat is dead or not (I suppose only the cat really knows in that case).

'Less you use a grenade. That's my main point.

[MRC_Hans]

Mmmm no, sorry! You'll never make it to Jedi Knight level. Try something else.

Hans

[ImpyTimpy]

But even then by your own logical reasoning you can't be 100% sure that the cat is dead... So the cat in that instance is either most likely dead or least likely alive, but neither dead or alive.

The cat is in an undetermined state.

Originally posted by American


'Less you use a grenade. That's my main point.

[Tricky]

Originally posted by MRC_Hans
Mmmm no, sorry! You'll never make it to Jedi Knight level. Try something else.

Hans
Very true, Hans. If American wants to be the next Jedi Knight, he will have to claim that the cat "cries out to God" before the hand grenade goes off.

[American]

Originally posted by ImpyTimpy
But even then by your own logical reasoning you can't be 100% sure that the cat is dead... So the cat in that instance is either most likely dead or least likely alive, but neither dead or alive.

The cat is in an undetermined state.


Ok, can the grenade idea.

Use like a "Daisy Cutter" or the new MOAB even. What can we say about the cat that we didn't claim by using a bullet?

Or go in the other direction-- use a BB gun or something really gentle. What's the difference?

[CWL]

Originally posted by Tricky

Very true, Hans. If American wants to be the next Jedi Knight, he will have to claim that the cat "cries out to God" before the hand grenade goes off.

... and that its ancestors originated from Mars, as clearly evidenced by this giant statue of a bowl of milk shown in the below picture, taken by the cheif conspirators themselves (i.e. NASA, who were obvioulsy too dumb to realize its significance):

http://themis.asu.edu/thumbs/20030519a-thumb.jpg

[Dancing David]

Schroedinger's paradox, it could be a handgrenade or the poison. One solution is to kill the poor kitty before putting it in the box.

On this forum we would have the:
Schroedinger's cat: is it alive or dead.
Schroedinger's android: is it consious or not.
Schroedinger's atheist: can they have morals



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