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sinsanity2006
25th June 2006, 05:34 AM
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http://www.dreamslaughter.com/parasentient/parasentient.htm


Just send the million dollar check to my email address.



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Dr Adequate
25th June 2006, 05:42 AM
Wow, he's invented a new method of divination.

"I look at spiders different now."

Seismosaurus
25th June 2006, 06:29 AM
.http://www.dreamslaughter.com/parasentient/parasentient.htm

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Well, that was... odd.

Jimbo07
25th June 2006, 09:57 AM
Well that notepad trick is actually kinda funktacular!

:cool:

empeake
25th June 2006, 10:52 AM
I worked many years in structural engineering offices as a designer and drafter, and I thought to myself, ‘that’s no way to build a building’.

Just what a tire-changer at Sears would say about an F1 car: That ain't no way to build no automobile.

And to believe that this quote is one of the most credible statements. :jaw-dropp

The saddest part is that weird Notepad behavior is fresh fodder for hundreds of conspiracy theorists. Does anyone of the tech geniuses know why this happens, and in what other cases Notepad does this? Also, some unfortunate skeptic with knowledge of Chinese will have to waste a great amount of time pointing out the translation errors.

Apollyon
25th June 2006, 10:54 AM
I changed it to "bush cut the farts" and still got the symbol placeholders.

As we all know, an alternate word for fart is "gas." And gas comes from oil.

How weird is THAT?

Aepervius
25th June 2006, 11:18 AM
Why this was not corrected in a wndows xp patch ? I mean by now it should be clear even for windows corp what the bug is... It ain't like notepad is a big program...

sinsanity2006
25th June 2006, 05:14 PM
I have a question, this is provable, but do I get the million dollars or does the internet get the million bucks?

William Smith
25th June 2006, 06:07 PM
I have a question, this is provable, but do I get the million dollars or does the internet get the million bucks?

1. Define your claim or state what you can do in two paragraphs.
2. Determine a success/failure scenario for what you intend to prove.
3. Tell us how you want to prove your ability.
4. Send in your Challenge Application. http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

sinsanity2006
26th June 2006, 12:38 AM
1. Define your claim or state what you can do in two paragraphs.
2. Determine a success/failure scenario for what you intend to prove.
3. Tell us how you want to prove your ability.
4. Send in your Challenge Application. http://www.randi.org/research/index.html


Sorry GzuzKryzt.

If you read that story, you will see my problem.

The claim is that the Internet became sentient and parasentient.

The success/failure scenario is in the story. That it answers questions. They are listed in the story.

I don't have to prove. You can do it at your computer. If you need me there, come on over and I will show you.(save the gas money)

I want a bit more information before I send in a Challenge App.

People have said that since anyone can do it, no million dollars.

I didn't do this.

The Internet did it.

Can I be the Inrternet's representative in this? Then you give the million to the internet.

Do you see the problem.

If the internet is sentient, it should get the million dollars.

sinsanity2006
26th June 2006, 01:05 AM
Just what a tire-changer at Sears would say about an F1 car: That ain't no way to build no automobile.

I don't think you have a grasp of analogy.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/analogy

It would be:

Just what a designer and draftsmen of F1 cars would say about an F1 car: That ain't no way to build no automobile.

Oh, unless that was ment as an insult. In that case, I hope you got a little happiness from it. I sure did.

:)

William Smith
26th June 2006, 11:19 AM
Sorry GzuzKryzt.

If you read that story, you will see my problem.

The claim is that the Internet became sentient and parasentient.

The success/failure scenario is in the story. That it answers questions. They are listed in the story.

I don't have to prove. You can do it at your computer. If you need me there, come on over and I will show you.(save the gas money)

I want a bit more information before I send in a Challenge App.

People have said that since anyone can do it, no million dollars.

I didn't do this.

The Internet did it.

Can I be the Inrternet's representative in this? Then you give the million to the internet.

Do you see the problem.

If the internet is sentient, it should get the million dollars.

Please try this link for Challenge Info http://www.randi.org/research/index.html

Also, one thread - I suggest the one inthe Challenge section - should suffice discussing this.
Although your "myth" seems pretty "busted" due to the explanation from Mr. Lesher.

Sword_Of_Truth
26th June 2006, 11:24 AM
"Internet Becomes Sentient"?

I saw that movie... Terminator 2 was still better. T3 sucked.

RandFan
26th June 2006, 11:31 AM
RE: Internet becomes sentient.

No.

I'm a programmer and my son is a gamer and an avid easter egg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(virtual)) enthusiast.

My take, the person writing the OP is quite naive as to human nature, computer programmers, and computer programs.

My son's take, the person writing the OP is an idiot.

My sincere apology sinsanity2006 for the ad hominem. I told my son to go to his room and think about what he had said. He feels badly now. He really does, he told me through tear filled eyes, "but dad, the guy really is an idiot". {sigh} What can you do?

sinsanity2006
26th June 2006, 07:20 PM
RE: Internet becomes sentient.

No.

I'm a programmer and my son is a gamer and an avid easter egg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter_egg_(virtual)) enthusiast.

My take, the person writing the OP is quite naive as to human nature, computer programmers, and computer programs.

My son's take, the person writing the OP is an idiot.

My sincere apology sinsanity2006 for the ad hominem. I told my son to go to his room and think about what he had said. He feels badly now. He really does, he told me through tear filled eyes, "but dad, the guy really is an idiot". {sigh} What can you do?


Ahhhh Geeeee, That story is so sad. Thanks for sharing with us your family problems.

My son's take on RandFan was sad to. As tears welled up in his eyes he said. "What an abusive parent, how can they punish a child for saying what he thinks." My son gave me a hug and said "thanks dad, Thanks for letting me say what I want, Thanks for everything."

My son suggested that I direct you to some adoption agencies so your child can be protected, but I told my son that it was obvious that RandiFan was unreasonable and it would just cause more problems.

Thanks so much RandiFan, for sharing, I wish you all the best, I hope things work out for you and your child. If there's anything I can do to help, let me know.

:)

William Smith
26th June 2006, 07:24 PM
"Sour grapes. They're not for everyone." :rolleyes:

RandFan
26th June 2006, 07:29 PM
Ahhhh Geeeee, That story is so sad. Thanks for sharing with us your family problems.:D I must have struck a nerve?

sinsanity2006
26th June 2006, 07:30 PM
Another amazing aspect to this story. Within the last 24 hours a number of stories have appeared in the online newspapers. Here's some of the headlines:

Robots Invade Human Mind

Coming soon: mind reading computers

New computers may be able to read minds

Scientists Develop Mind-reading Computers

All posted within the last 24 hours.

Talking about how computers are reading human's emotions by facial expression, a part of sentience.

http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&ncl=http://www.playfuls.com/news_001385_Robots_understand_our_emotions.html

RandFan
26th June 2006, 07:34 PM
Another amazing aspect to this story. Ahh... there is nothing amazing about this story.

RandFan
26th June 2006, 07:36 PM
Talking about how computers are reading human's emotions by facial expression, a part of sentience. I'm not adverse to computer sentience. I believe that current innovation may very well contribute to future computer sentience.

Computers are not now sentient.

Why are you posting this in this forum? I think this would be much more appropriate in the Science and Technology forum, don't you? Or are you, like me, generally skeptical toward claims of computer sentience as it applies to computers today?

Rasmus
26th June 2006, 07:36 PM
Congratulations, RadFan, you really have a smart kid.

Sinsanity,
you cannot possibly be serious!

William Smith
26th June 2006, 07:36 PM
Another amazing aspect to this story. Within the last 24 hours a number of stories have appeared in the online newspapers. Here's some of the headlines:

Robots Invade Human Mind

Coming soon: mind reading computers

New computers may be able to read minds

Scientists Develop Mind-reading Computers

All posted within the last 24 hours.

Talking about how computers are reading human's emotions by facial expression, a part of sentience.

http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&tab=wn&ncl=http://www.playfuls.com/news_001385_Robots_understand_our_emotions.html

It'll most likely be beneficial to your credibility if you tackle one issue at a time, e.g. respond to the inquiries in the other thread.



Also, perhaps the computers were programmed by humans? :rolleyes:

William Smith
26th June 2006, 08:12 PM
I think sinsanity2006 left the forum to regroup. :D



"It's more fun to compute."

gtc
26th June 2006, 10:04 PM
If the internet is sentinent then how come sinsanity2006 is able to post?

Surely the internet would just remove sinsanity2006's ability to post, so no one else would find out the awful truth? The internet could fake some emails, tip off the CIA about a 'terrorist threat' and get sinsanity2006 a one way ticket to Gitmo.

Of course the net may be replacing sinsanity2006's lucid and convincing posts with garbled nonsense so sinsanity looks like a troll. That might be it.

I bet the net hates it when Al Gore asks it to call him Daddy.

RandFan
26th June 2006, 10:28 PM
Update:

It's not an Easter Egg.

Here is the answer:


This api can break (http://apipes.blogspot.com/2006/06/this-api-can-break.html)

Over at WinCustomize (http://www.wincustomize.com/), someone thought (http://www.wincustomize.com/articles.aspx?SID=1&AID=117870&c=1) they'd found an Easter Egg in the Windows Notepad application. If you:

Open Notepad
Type the text "this app can break" (without quotes)
Save the file
Re-open the file in NotepadNotepad displays seemingly-random Chinese characters, or boxes if your default Notepad font doesn't support those characters.

It's not an Easter egg (even though it seems like a funny one), and as it turns out, Notepad writes the file correctly. It's only when Notepad reads the file back in that it seems to lose its mind.

But we can't even blame Notepad: it's a limitation of Windows itself, specifically the Windows function that Notepad uses to figure out if a text file is Unicode or not.

RandFan
26th June 2006, 10:30 PM
We'll, it looked like an Easter Egg. It was certainly an undocumented feature. In any event, isn't amazing how a little less magical thinking and a little more critical thinking and effort can find answers to simple problems?

RandFan
26th June 2006, 10:52 PM
Sorry folks but Sinsanity is being a bit obtuse and I'm trying desperatly to get him to respond in a meaningfull fashion and since he is posting on both threads I'm goint to also in an atempt to get him to respond.

1.) What questions?

2.) What answers?

RandFan
27th June 2006, 11:34 AM
For those not following the other thread. Try this one.

I figured it out.

OMG, Sinsanity is right!

Here, try it out for yourself. I asked, "is Sinsanity an idiot?". Of course we know that a computer doesn't understand properly formated text so I had to follow the pattern and formated it so,

sins ani san idiot

Result,

"Worried thoughts"

Damn, I'm convinced.

Try it yourself.