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skullerello
25th June 2006, 12:29 PM
I know this is going to make me appear awefully dense, but here goes.
I have no idea how to impliment fonts I've downloaded and saved. It use to be much easier in Windows ME. There was simply an icon in Control Panel called fonts; click on that, save your new font, and that font then would be available to all the applications. But, now with Windows XP, I'm lost.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Alphaba
25th June 2006, 12:36 PM
Drag and drop in: C:\WINDOWS\Fonts

tkingdoll
25th June 2006, 12:40 PM
As Alphaba said, then reboot to ensure the system recognises the new fonts.

Penny
25th June 2006, 02:18 PM
Or if you forget the path in future, you can get to it from Control Panel->Fonts.

You shouldn't need to reboot; just restart any applications you're running and they'll pick up the new fonts.

tkingdoll
25th June 2006, 02:41 PM
Or if you forget the path in future, you can get to it from Control Panel->Fonts.

You shouldn't need to reboot; just restart any applications you're running and they'll pick up the new fonts.

Windows isn't an application?

CFLarsen
25th June 2006, 03:06 PM
Windows isn't an application?
No. It's an OS.

tkingdoll
25th June 2006, 03:15 PM
No. It's an OS.

I was being sarcastic, it wasn't actually a question.

Windows is an operating system. It's also an application. A computer programme with a user interface.

Darat
25th June 2006, 03:16 PM
Windows isn't an application?

No it's an OS - What most people mean when they say "Windows" is in fact the desktop shell program - explorer. ;)

tkingdoll
25th June 2006, 03:21 PM
No it's an OS - What most people mean when they say "Windows" is in fact the desktop shell program - explorer. ;)

Yes, that's what I said in my post above. And it's a good idea to reboot after you install new fonts if you want said program to recognise them.

CFLarsen
25th June 2006, 03:23 PM
No it's an OS - What most people mean when they say "Windows" is in fact the desktop shell program - explorer. ;)
Nope.

It used to be that in Ye Olden Days of Yonder - Win 3.11 and such. Nowadays, it is a full-blown OS.

Darat
25th June 2006, 03:24 PM
Or just stop and restart explorer - that only takes seconds.

Darat
25th June 2006, 03:27 PM
Nope.

It used to be that in Ye Olden Days of Yonder - Win 3.11 and such. Nowadays, it is a full-blown OS.

Claus re-read what I posted, you''ve misunderstood it.

As I said what most people mean when they refer to Windows is the graphical UI that ships with Windows and this shell is called explorer.

CFLarsen
25th June 2006, 03:29 PM
The time it took to reboot a PC XT with DOS 2.10 was still shorter than booting XP today...

And if you want to talk about "open" system... DOS was as "open" as it could possibly get... You could wade in there with your jackboots and all...

CFLarsen
25th June 2006, 03:30 PM
Claus re-read what I posted, you''ve misunderstood it.

As I said what most people mean when they refer to Windows is the graphical UI that ships with Windows and this shell is called explorer.
Hmpf.

How do you know what "most people" mean? :p

E?

Darat
25th June 2006, 03:36 PM
Hmpf.

How do you know what "most people" mean? :p

E?

See Tk's first reply regarding Windows, and from running a customer support centre for a couple of years.

CFLarsen
25th June 2006, 03:38 PM
See Tk's first reply regarding Windows, and from running a customer support centre for a couple of years.
Anecdotal evidence.

Tsk, tsk....

Darat
25th June 2006, 03:48 PM
Anecdotal evidence.

Tsk, tsk....

Nope not anecdotal evidence, tk's response is there for anyone to read and the other part of my evidence is "evidence from authority". And remember an appeal to authority is only a fallacy if the person is not an authority.

















;)

CFLarsen
25th June 2006, 03:50 PM
Prove that you are an authority. :p

Pyrrho
25th June 2006, 04:24 PM
You shouldn't have to restart Windows to have it recognize new fonts. You might have to restart a program that reads the font list, but not the entire OS.

tkingdoll
25th June 2006, 05:14 PM
OK, tell me how to do this without rebooting then. I just downloaded a font from a freefonts website and dragged it into the Fonts folder. I then went to Display settings in the Control Panel, selected a setting to change the font of, and the new font was not in the list.

Pyrrho
25th June 2006, 05:28 PM
Use the "Classic View" option for Control Panel. The Fonts icon will appear, whereas it does not appear in the "Category View" for Control Panel. Install the font by using the menu commands:

File => Install New Font

I usually make sure that "Copy to fonts folder" is enabled. Browse to the folder where your new font is located--this should not be the Windows fonts folder. Select the font(s) you want to install. Click Ok. Close the Fonts window, etc.

The new font should appear in your application's font list. I just did the above and it worked fine. No reboot required.

tkingdoll
25th June 2006, 05:32 PM
Use the "Classic View" option for Control Panel. The Fonts icon will appear, whereas it does not appear in the "Category View" for Control Panel. Install the font by using the menu commands:

File => Install New Font

I usually make sure that "Copy to fonts folder" is enabled.

The new font should appear in your application's font list. I just did the above and it worked fine. No reboot required.

That's not what I mean. The first response to the OP was "Drag and drop in: C:\WINDOWS\Fonts"

My reply to that advice was "As Alphaba said, then reboot to ensure the system recognises the new fonts."

If you don't reboot after dragging and dropping into the Fonts folder, the system does not recognise the new font. Yes?

Pyrrho
25th June 2006, 05:48 PM
That's not what I mean. The first response to the OP was "Drag and drop in: C:\WINDOWS\Fonts"

My reply to that advice was "As Alphaba said, then reboot to ensure the system recognises the new fonts."

If you don't reboot after dragging and dropping into the Fonts folder, the system does not recognise the new font. Yes?
I just did that and my system recognized the font without having to reboot.

Sometimes, the Windows font folder loses the autoinstall capability (I've seen it referred to as "losing its magic"). This problem can be repaired by using the Windows TweakUI PowerToy:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

One way to check for the problem is to open the Windows\Fonts folder and see if the File => Install New Font menu item is missing.

tkingdoll
25th June 2006, 05:50 PM
I just did that and my system recognized the font without having to reboot.

Sometimes, the Windows font folder loses the autoinstall capability (I've seen it referred to as "losing its magic"). This problem can be repaired by using the Windows TweakUI PowerToy:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx

Weird! Maybe mine was protesting because the font I downloaded was a Star Trek one :D

Thanks for the link.

Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
25th June 2006, 06:55 PM
I install fonts in the font manager (File | Install New Font) and I never need to reboot.

~~ Paul

kevin
25th June 2006, 07:07 PM
Yes, that's what I said in my post above. And it's a good idea to reboot after you install new fonts if you want said program to recognise them.

I hate fonts (sorry just ranting.)

When work adopted two new official fonts it was my job to get them working on about 3000 computers.

I wrote a program that copied them to c:\windows\fonts with a vbscript. Here are my findings using this method:

about 10% of the computers will show the fonts and print the fonts correctly with no further action.
about 80% of the computers will work, if you open the Fonts control panel after copying the fonts.
about 10% will not work until a reboot is done.

I modified the program to open the fonts control panel for the user after installing the fonts. We distributed this version and told users if the fonts didn't activate they would need to reboot.

skullerello
30th June 2006, 12:06 AM
Thanks for all the advice, evryone.
I needed to save a tengwar font for a tattoo one of the wife's customers requested. Crazy (rule 8) business!