(Ed) List of strange strange coincidences on 9/11

[SBrown]

Lets discuss it now without childish frenzy mentality. I will start.....

Lets list every strange coincidences that happened on that day.

1. 3 steel frame buildings fell for the the first time in history as a result of fire all in the same day.

[Regnad Kcin]

Strange coincidence from that day #2: People in several cities each ate a hot dog...with ketchup.

[Gravy]

Strange coincidence from that day #2: People in several cities each ate a hot dog...with ketchup.
And that simply doesn't cut the mustard with me.

[SBrown]

Strange coincidence from that day #2: People in several cities each ate a hot dog...with ketchup.

Nope I do not think that counts since it is not technically a strange coincidence since it happens every day.

[gumboot]

Lets discuss it now without childish frenzy mentality. I will start.....

Lets list every strange coincidences that happened on that day.

1. 3 steel frame buildings fell for the the first time in history as a result of fire all in the same day.


I am confused. Surely coincidence requires that the coincidental events are unrelated.

The collapse of WTC1, 2, and 7 were events within a single particular event - that being a terrorist attack on the United States. Therefore they are related, and not coincidental.

Secondly, where is your evidence that these buildings collapsed due to fire? I understood that two were hit by airliners and the third was hit by the other two. From what I gather, this had something to do with the buildings collapsing.

-Andrew

[Pardalis]

What's this thread?

You're just here to antagonise people SBrown. Cut it out.

[SBrown]

#2 NORAD happens to be conducting exercises that simulate commercial airlines being hijacked and flown into buildings.

[Pardalis]

Coincidences Do Happen

[Class]

And that simply doesn't cut the mustard with me.
I relish these kinds of conversations.

[SBrown]

Come on you guys are a bit slow, I am the only one doing the thinking here.....

[Pardalis]

I relish these kinds of conversations.

I'm afraid this is hardly going to be a "conversation". SBrown is back, with a vengeance...

[Regnad Kcin]

Nope I do not think that counts since it is not technically a strange coincidence since it happens every day.WHAT a coincidence!

[Regnad Kcin]

Come on you guys are a bit slow, I am the only one doing the thinking here.....I...think not.

[Class]

I'm afraid this is hardly going to be a "conversation". SBrown is back, with a vengeance...
I know, I was just saying another hot dog pun.

[Gravy]

I'm afraid this is hardly going to be a "conversation". SBrown is back, with a vengeance...
He reminds me of a certain ranting, sour kraut.

[Pardalis]

BTW, what is a strange coincidence?

SBrown, I want to hear your analysis of what exactly constitutes a "coincidence".

Go.

[Axiom_Blade]

YouTube & Google Video

Upside: Can watch old music videos
Downside: Proliferation of CTs

So, are we better or worse off?

[SBrown]

Come on now lets grab a little security and give up a bit of liberty!!!! Lets all sing it boys...

Security for liberty as the I sing.....land where my father died...land of Jihad suicide....land with a chip in my thigh....let freedom leave....

[Regnad Kcin]

But okay, I'll humor you.

1. 3 steel frame buildings fell for the the first time in history as a result of fire all in the same day.No. Or rather, not exactly. In actuality, three steel frame buildings fell as a result of a series and combination of events and forces, among them being fire.

See? No "strange coincidence" at all.

[Pardalis]

SBrown, your complete definition of "coincidence" please.

[gumboot]

#2 NORAD happens to be conducting exercises that simulate commercial airlines being hijacked and flown into buildings.



Um...

NORAD was conduction ONE exercise, called Guardian, which they hold every year in Spring, and which tests their response to nuclear attack.

It doesn't really relate to 9/11...unless you think the Russians did it...:eek:

-Andrew

[SBrown]

Homeland security rocks they protect me from the MIAMI SEVEN!!!! Go FBI its yer birthday....

Lets get patriotic now.....

[SBrown]

SBrown, your complete definition of "coincidence" please.

They have lots of free online dictionaries....I am having to much fun to stop and give you a link.

[Axiom_Blade]

He reminds me of a certain ranting, sour kraut.

And the posts pile up so fast, sometimes it's hard to ketchup.

[R.Mackey]

Lets discuss it now without childish frenzy mentality. I will start.....

Come on now lets grab a little security and give up a bit of liberty!!!! Lets all sing it boys...

Security for liberty as the I sing.....land where my father died...land of Jihad suicide....land with a chip in my thigh....let freedom leave....
"Without childish frenzy mentality," yet you've posted approximately 40 times in the past few hours, spawning several new threads... containing such useful, intellectual gems as the above.

When you are given simple, concise answers to your leading "questions," you attack the answerer.

Irony, thy name is SBrown. Do us a favor and either grow up, or get out.

[Pardalis]

They have lots of free online dictionaries....I am having to much fun to stop and give you a link.

I want your definition. I'm not sure you really know what a coincidence is...

[SBrown]

"Without childish frenzy mentality," yet you've posted approximately 40 times in the past few hours, spawning several new threads... containing such useful, intellectual gems as the above.

When you are given simple, concise answers to your leading "questions," you attack the answerer.

Irony, thy name is SBrown. Do us a favor and either grow up, or get out.

You get out I didnt invite you, and you didnt give a coincidence....

[SBrown]

I am the Miami Seven......hear me roar......wanna buy me some boots please...

[Pardalis]

You get out I didnt invite you, and you didnt give a coincidence....

There are literally thousands of coincidences happening at this very moment. What's your definition of coincidence, SBrown?

[SBrown]

There are literally thousands of coincidences happening at this very moment. What's your definition of coincidence, SBrown?

I told you look it up.

[Pardalis]

I want YOUR take on the definition.

[SBrown]

#3 (I do not think you guys wanna play this game) Paper passport (domestic flight duh....) flies out of fireball and lands on street singed (lucky for the FBI or they may have had to do an investigation).

[Class]

Well here's a big coincidence: 4 passenger jets were hijacked by terrorists and all of them ended up being destroyed in some way on the same day.

[SBrown]

I want YOUR take on the definition.
I want you to look it up and I demand that you succumb to my will because....

[SBrown]

Well here's a big coincidence: 4 passenger jets were hijacked by terrorists and all of them ended up being destroyed in some way on the same day.

WOOOT someone has come to play!

[Pardalis]

Here's a coincidence. On sept 11 2001, I went to work at a company named Jet Films. Am I in on the conspiracy?

ETA: the desk of the receptionist is a small replica of a wing.

[SBrown]

Here's a coincidence. On sept 11 2001, I went to work at a company named Jet Films. Am I in on the conspiracy?

WOW you are confused.

[Pardalis]

WOW you are confused.

Am I? I think it's a pretty good coincidence.

[SBrown]

I am scared of the Miami Seven....are you?

Whois afraid of the miami seven...the miami seven .....the miami seven


Whois afraid of the miami seven...the miami seven .....the miami seven


Whois afraid of the miami seven...the miami seven .....the miami seven

Miami seven Miami seven what big camera you have.....better to shoot big buildings with.....

[Pardalis]

I think I'm getting a little scared of you to be honest...

[gumboot]

Here's a coincidence. On sept 11 2001, I went to work at a company named Jet Films. Am I in on the conspiracy?

You worked somewhere called Jet Films, and I went to a FILM school. Wow.

Another coincidence.

Wait. I've got another.

The FAA ordered a nation-wide ground stop for the first time ever, and terrorists flew aeroplanes into a highrise for the first time ever AND the Pentagon was attacked for the first time ever... ON THE SAME DAY.

-Andrew

[DavidJames]

Lets discuss it now without childish frenzy mentality. I will start.....

Lets list every strange coincidences that happened on that day.

1. 3 steel frame buildings fell for the the first time in history as a result of fire all in the same day.
I'm not interested in coincidences. I would be interested in seeing you present verifiable facts supporting whatever ideas you might have. Why didn't you start a thread presenting your facts. I will start...

You don't have any.

[SBrown]

#4 the same man happend to own or lease every building that fell that day......doh, how lucky was he.

[SBrown]

I'm not interested in coincidences. I would be interested in seeing you present verifiable facts supporting whatever ideas you might have. Why didn't you start a thread presenting your facts. I will start...

You don't have any.

I do not care what you are interested in, go post elsewhere.

[Pardalis]

Silverteen owned the Pentagon?

[SBrown]

Dang am I being a little callous?

[kevin]

#4 the same man happend to own or lease every building that fell that day......doh, how lucky was he.

So it was all an insurance scam?

[Pardalis]

Why are you so antagonistic all of a sudden. Are you high?

[SBrown]

Silverteen owned the Pentagon?

I do not know who "Silverteen" is.

[Regnad Kcin]

But okay, I'll humor you.

1. 3 steel frame buildings fell for the the first time in history as a result of fire all in the same day.

No. Or rather, not exactly. In actuality, three steel frame buildings fell as a result of a series and combination of events and forces, among them being fire.

See? No "strange coincidence" at all.Care to acknowledge my reply to your "coincidence?"

[dubfan]

I think there are a lot of coincidences that implicate abbyas in the whole thing. (http://abbyscott.blogspot.com/2006/05/who-was-responsible-for-911.html)

Plus, kittens.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4112/1143/1600/kitten.jpg

[SBrown]

Why are you so antagonistic all of a sudden. Are you high?
All of a sudden??

I always have been, you are just not paying attention.

[DavidJames]

I do not care what you are interested in, go post elsewhere.
Thanks for confirming you don't have any facts.

[Pardalis]

Do you want a serious discussion or not?

[R.Mackey]

All of a sudden??

I always have been, you are just not paying attention.
Always have been what, high or antagonistic?

Good call, Pardalis...

[SBrown]

Do you want a serious discussion or not?
Nope I want to be a jackass:jaw-dropp

[Pardalis]

Mission accomplished

[CptColumbo]

Nope I want to be a jackass:jaw-dropp
At last an accurate statement.

[SBrown]

Always have been what, high or antagonistic?

Good call, Pardalis...

Your reading comprehension skills suck quite frankly. Are you still in school? If not demand your money back.

[R.Mackey]

Your reading comprehension skills suck quite frankly. Are you still in school? If not demand your money back.
As it happens, I am still in school, slowly working towards my third post-graduate degree...

I defy you to find where I have made a reading comprehension error. For the record, the exchange is as follows:

Why are you so antagonistic all of a sudden. Are you high?

All of a sudden??

I always have been, you are just not paying attention.

Always have been what, high or antagonistic?

Good call, Pardalis...

[Pardalis]

Let's see:

Alec: viscious moron
geggy: sympathetic idiot
Roxdog: madman
Xraye: pugilist
Mutton-head: nice guy, but misdirected
Christophera: schizo
DJlegacy: professional DJ
SBrown: Jack ass on cocaine

Did I miss anyone?

[SBrown]

As it happens, I am still in school, slowly working towards my third post-graduate degree...

I defy you to find where I have made a reading comprehension error. For the record, the exchange is as follows:

WOW good for you, I still stay ask for at least a partial refund.

[Gravy]

http://forums.randi.org/imagehost/87904464d85a5bcda.jpg
Globalina, the world's most dangerous kitty!

[R.Mackey]

Yes, you missed Childlike Empress. She was reasonably articulate and far more polite than this lot, but she too refused to present her own theory for inspection.

Eventually it was revealed that she moves in Holocaust-denial circles, and she quickly withdrew.

[SBrown]

Let's see:

Alec: viscious moron
geggy: sympathetic idiot
Roxdog: madman
Xraye: pugilist
Mutton-head: nice guy, but misdirected
Christophera: schizo
DJlegacy: professional DJ
SBrown: Jack ass on cocaine

Did I miss anyone?

I thought we were friends.:confused:

[Pardalis]

Oh, yes! Childlike Empress, hmmmmmm nice avatar.

[Pardalis]

Friends don't antagonize one another, love (assuming you're a "she").

[SBrown]

Friends don't antagonize one another, love (assuming you're a "she").
OK then stick with the topic jackass and quit trying to de-rail my thread.

[Pardalis]

The thread is about "Loose Change" love.

[Gravy]

Yes, you missed Childlike Empress. She was reasonably articulate and far more polite than this lot, but she too refused to present her own theory for inspection.

Eventually it was revealed that she moves in Holocaust-denial circles, and she quickly withdrew.
I don't know if that's accurate. I used the Holocaust denial angle as an example of the type of unsubstantiated accusations she continually used, and she took the bait. We DO know that she moves in "The US military controls the weather and uses it as a weapon" circles.

[Pardalis]

and that she had a hell of an avatar...

[CptColumbo]

The soup of the day at the cafeteria, at my college, was New England Clam Chowder. Some of the planes took off from Boston. My dorm was in a pair of towers. My favorite superhero is Superman who has a pentagon on his chest. I was scheduled to take a trip to NYC in March 2002. I have a fear of flying. I've flown on American Airlines. I read Debt of Honor by Tom Clancy, where a airliner is crashed into the US capitol building. I was performing a scene that took place in NYC later that day. I was scheduled to give blood 9/12. A friend went off to the army the day before. I hate Depeche Mode. I love the Simpsons' episode that took place at the WTC. My sister ate a cheeseburger that day. I once built twin towers out of Legos.

Coincidences happen.

[Pardalis]

The soup of the day at the cafeteria, at my college, was New England Clam Chowder. Some of the planes took off from Boston. My dorm was in a pair of towers. My favorite superhero is Superman who has a pentagon on his chest. I was scheduled to take a trip to NYC in March 2002. I have a fear of flying. I've flown on American Airlines. I read Debt of Honor by Tom Clancy, where a airliner is crashed into the US capitol building. I was performing a scene that took place in NYC later that day. I was scheduled to give blood 9/12. A friend went off to the army the day before. I hate Depeche Mode. I love the Simpsons' episode that took place at the WTC. My sister ate a cheeseburger that day. I once built twin towers out of Legos.

Coincidences happen.

The "S" of Superman? Silverstein maybe?

[dubfan]

I think I'm getting a little scared of you to be honest...

Nah. Nothing to be scared of. It's just our resident coward Roxdog having a little ****-storm. Once he comes down off his meth bender, he'll be burping up stale Miller High Life and quoting Stephen Colbert.

[SBrown]

The soup of the day at the cafeteria, at my college, was New England Clam Chowder. Some of the planes took off from Boston. My dorm was in a pair of towers. My favorite superhero is Superman who has a pentagon on his chest. I was scheduled to take a trip to NYC in March 2002. I have a fear of flying. I've flown on American Airlines. I read Debt of Honor by Tom Clancy, where a airliner is crashed into the US capitol building. I was performing a scene that took place in NYC later that day. I was scheduled to give blood 9/12. A friend went off to the army the day before. I hate Depeche Mode. I love the Simpsons' episode that took place at the WTC. My sister ate a cheeseburger that day. I once built twin towers out of Legos.

Coincidences happen.


CptColumbo are you a true Ninja?

[Pardalis]

You... you mean SBrown is Roxdog? Yuk! :scared: I thought it was a chick! :gasp:

[CptColumbo]

The "S" of Superman? Silverstein maybe?
Ah, the plot thickens.

[CptColumbo]

CptColumbo are you a true Ninja?
As much as you are an open-minded truth seeker.

[Gravy]

You... you mean SBrown is Roxdog? Yuk! :scared: I thought it was a chick! :gasp:
Nah, just a chicken.

[R.Mackey]

As much fun as it is yanking SBrown's millimeter-long chain, I feel I should contribute something a little more entertaining, if unscientific.

I am aware of one spectacular 9/11 coincidence from pop culture, one that blows the doors off of that Depeche Mode vs. Nostradamus nutball we had here earlier. That would be the band Dream Theater (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dream_Theater) and their album "Live Scenes from New York." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_Scenes_from_New_York) Terrific band, local to NY. I highly recommend them.

Anyway, this album was released on September 11th, 2001. Its cover artwork showed, among other things, a picture of the New York skyline, Twin Towers prominent -- in flames. See it at the second Wikipedia link above.

The band, naturally horrified at the events of Sept. 11th, quickly recalled the albums to replace the cover art. From their communication to their fans:
In regard to the live album's cover art, I can only say that it is a horrible coincidence that we obviously could have never forseen. The timing of the release of the CD happening on the very same day as this tragedy is merely an incredible coincidence. We are currently in discussions with the label as to whether or not we will recall the CD's and replace them with a different cover. Obviously, the recovery of everybody's personal lives here in New York is the first priority[...]
(from Dream Theater Archives (http://www.dreamtheater.net/archive_dreamtheater.php?y=2001#3cdrecalled))

Some of their lyrics are suggestive as well:

It's raining, raining,
On the streets of New York city
It's raining, raining, raining deep in heaven
Raining deep in heaven [...]

Still awake
I continue to move along
Cultivating my own nonsense
Welcome to the wasteland
Where you'll find ashes, nothing but ashes
Still awake
Bringing change, bringing movement,
Bringing life
A silent prayer thrown away,
Disappearing in the air
Rising, sinking, raining deep inside me
Nowhere to turn,
I look for a way back home
Needless to say, coincidences happen.

[SBrown]

You... you mean SBrown is Roxdog? Yuk! :scared: I thought it was a chick! :gasp:

WTF is this code you guys use to ridicule here? Can I buy the manual?

[Pardalis]

Come on, you're Roxdog right?

[SBrown]

Come on, you're Roxdog right?
Nope try again

[EvilBiker]

Nope try again

Hm, let's see....

Podcast, check.
Evasive, check.
CT, check.

If not Roxdog, at the very least somebody who shares the same defective DNA.

[SBrown]

Hm, let's see....

Podcast, check.
Evasive, check.
CT, check.

If not Roxdog, at the very least somebody who shares the same defective DNA.

Definition of insanity....doing the same thing over and over expecting different results........I am not a roxdog

[Antiquehunter]

I came here looking for more hot dog / CT jokes. Looks like all we have here is one big weiner.

[RandFan]

Hm, let's see....

Podcast, check.
Evasive, check.
CT, check.

If not Roxdog, at the very least somebody who shares the same defective DNA.I'll grant you that SBrown has a podcast, that he's evasive and that he is a CT but I don't think he's Roxdog. Roxdog is unbeleivably stupid. Of all of the CT nuts Roxdog was one of the dumbest bags of rocks there was. A virtual non sequitur. SBrown seems to have a bit more on the ball than Roxdog. Hell, if I remember right Roxdog is on that list of the dumbest things CT'ers say.

[Pardalis]

Good one Antiquehunter ;)

[CurtC]

Roxdog posted here under the name ConspiracyBeliever.

From SBrown's posts here, it doesn't look like the same person. Based on how vacuous the posts are, and using the term "cult," maybe it's the LC Forum's jenabell?

[Axiom_Blade]

I came here looking for more hot dog / CT jokes. Looks like all we have here is one big weiner.

Frankly, it's just pathetic.

[Meffy]

This thread lumbers slowly along like a 500-pound grill-a. I prefer a lighter, fluid discussion. As the tennis pro said to the Shriner, "Hey, got a match?"

[Legalduck]

I just spent a fair amount of time responding to one of SBrown's other postsin another thread. I tried to take the moral highroad and make a clear, compassionate, and rational argument. After seeing this thread, I'm feeling burned. Since the pictures of kittens have been posted, does that give me leave to start posting recipes? I've got a good one for pepper crushed steak.

I will not call SBrown a troll. But I will call her(him?) a CR5 giant that can only be slain by fire, acid, or a disintegrate spell.

[Meffy]

I will not call SBrown a troll.

I will.

I am having to much fun to stop and give you a link.
WOOOT someone has come to play!
I do not care what you are interested in, go post elsewhere.
Dang am I being a little callous?
Do you want a serious discussion or not?
Nope I want to be a jackass:jaw-dropp

[azazal]

Since the pictures of kittens have been posted, does that give me leave to start posting recipes? I've got a good one for pepper crushed steak.


Please do, sounds tasty

[Meffy]

Strange Coincidence Number Whatever-it-is: On September 11, 2001, none of our pet kittens had yet been born. =@.@= It's true!

Jasper
http://www.freewebtown.com/meffy/stuffs/Jasper.jpg

Kiptopeake
http://www.freewebtown.com/meffy/stuffs/Kiptopeake.jpg

Luray (playing with the mother of all three, Portia)
http://www.freewebtown.com/meffy/stuffs/LurayAndPortia.jpg

[Legalduck]

Originally Posted by Legalduck :
Since the pictures of kittens have been posted, does that give me leave to start posting recipes? I've got a good one for pepper crushed steak.



Please do, sounds tasty

Pepper-crushed steak

Mix in a small bowl:
3 tablespoons of molassas
2 teaspoons of crushed black pepper
1/2 teaspoon of salt

Coat both sides of two medium sized (or one large sized) broiling steak (flank, etc.). Broil until done to taste. The mixture gives the steak a nice tangy/spicy-hot flavor (and members of the New World Order/Illuminati conspiracy know that this mixture is the secret of the future one world goverment- trademark pending). Start to finish takes, this takes less than 15 minutes to prepare (the steak, not global domination).

I hope you enjoy it, Azazal. If you don't, please don't shoot me with your exitus rifle (end: vague reference to azazal's current avatar).

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Lets discuss it now without childish frenzy mentality. I will start.....

Lets list every strange coincidences that happened on that day.

1. 3 steel frame buildings fell for the the first time in history as a result of fire all in the same day.

bolding mine

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc (with this, therefore because of this). This is the familiar fallacy of mistaking correlation for causation -- i.e., thinking that because two things occur simultaneously, one must be a cause of the other. A popular example of this fallacy is the argument that "President Clinton has great economic policies; just look at how well the economy is doing while he's in office!" The problem here is that two things may happen at the same time merely by coincidence (e.g., the President may have a negligible effect on the economy, and the real driving force is technological growth), or the causative link between one thing and another may be lagged in time (e.g., the current economy's health is determined by the actions of previous presidents), or the two things may be unconnected to each other but related to a common cause (e.g., downsizing upset a lot of voters, causing them to elect a new president just before the economy began to benefit from the downsizing).

It is always fallacious to suppose that there is a causative link between two things simply because they coexist. But a correlation is usually considered acceptable supporting evidence for theories that argue for a causative link between two things. For instance, some economic theories suggest that substantially reducing the federal budget deficit should cause the economy to do better (loosely speaking), so the coincidence of deficit reductions under Clinton and the economy's relative health might be taken as evidence in favor of those economic theories. In debate rounds, what this means is that it is acceptable to demonstrate a correlation between two phenomenon and to say one caused the other if you can also come up with convincing reasons why the correlation is no accident.

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc is very similar to post hoc ergo propter hoc, below. The two terms can be used almost interchangeably, post hoc (as it is affectionately called) being the preferred term.

http://www.csun.edu/~dgw61315/fallacies.html

[Mancman]

#4 the same man happend to own or lease every building that fell that day......doh, how lucky was he.

Yeah, damn him. He's such a shrewd businessman that he'll help destroy a complex that gives him office rental returns amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars a year, so he can go through a lengthy legal process to obtain money that he will spend on rebuilding anyway, therby removing any possible insurance profits. He's so smart that he can admit massive insurance fraud on TV - and get away with it!

[Meffy]

@Mancman: Hi and welcome. That's one of the greatest things about woo -- the more outrageous the claim, the fiercer the claimant's dedication. And enthusiasm is better than proof. :-}

[edit] ... except I don't think SBrown believes a word of what he, she, it, or they posted.

[Stellafane]

To seriously answer the OP: The strangest coincidence I personally know of involving 9/11 was that at 6:00 AM that morning, a Republican buddy of mine in the oil business called me and asked whether I could bring down the WTC towers on really short notice and make it look like it was a terrorist attack. I told him no problem, but I'd have to throw in an irrelevant diversion like bombing a building in Washington. Plus I'd need at least another week, otherwise I might be able to fool the general public but really sharp kids with lots of time on their hands would find out about the squibs and concrete core and stuff. He said he'd get back to me and hung up. Never heard back from him.

Don't tell anyone though.

[Legalduck]

Originally Posted by SBrown :
#4 the same man happend to own or lease every building that fell that day......doh, how lucky was he.
Yeah, damn him. He's such a shrewd businessman that he'll help destroy a complex that gives him office rental returns amounting to hundreds of millions of dollars a year, so he can go through a lengthy legal process to obtain money that he will spend on rebuilding anyway, therby removing any possible insurance profits. He's so smart that he can admit massive insurance fraud on TV - and get away with it!

I can only think of the Simpsons when I read this.

Lisa: "If Scooby Doo has taught me anything, its that the only thing to fear is a crooked real estate developer."

[MarkyX]

Lets discuss it now without childish frenzy mentality. I will start.....

Lets list every strange coincidences that happened on that day.

1. 3 steel frame buildings fell for the the first time in history as a result of fire all in the same day.

Buildings? Uh, no.

Skyscrapers, maybe. But not just "buildings". I think you forgot the fact that a 500 MPH 225,000 pound missile hit the building.

[MarkyX]

#4 the same man happend to own or lease every building that fell that day......doh, how lucky was he.

To ..rebuild it? Oh yeah, real lucky. He was raking in major cash from the numerous companies renting his floors and you're telling me that he got more money from the buildings being destroyed?

Idiot, thy name is SBrown.