Richard
25th June 2006, 09:37 PM
From the Jelly Bean Lady....
Excerpts from 4BC radio interview
with Pharmacist Max Croft & The Jelly Bean Lady – 7:30pm 3 June 2006
MC ‘The proof to me is the proof that I have every day in my own pharmacy’
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JBL ‘You’re a scientist Max, you really should be looking for the proof, not for anecdotal statements’
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MC ‘Well, I don’t just shoot my mouth off at work Loretta to try to make money’
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JBL ‘Would you sell, say a homeopathic hangover cure?’
MC ‘No, we don’t sell those’
JBL ‘Do you sell any homeopathic products?’
MC ‘Yes we do, we have it in stock, I don’t sell them, there’s a difference isn’t there – If someone comes in wants to buy something I don’t say “Oh that’s useless, why on earth are you buying it’
JBL ‘Why not? Because you’re a pharmacist. I go into my pharmacy I expect every product on the shelf to be endorsed by the person that runs the pharmacy as I would go into Harvey Norman and expect every television set to work’
MC ‘So every time you get a prescription you say to them look is stuff from a double blind test and is great faith and I know it’s going to fix me up. Come on Loretta, you know that’s not true’
JBL ‘I’m in a position to look at the tests to see what probability it will fix me up’
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JBL ‘Results based on good solid scientific evidence’
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MC ‘I can conduct my own trials if you like and that’s as far as I want to go.’
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‘ We find (Echinacea) in a specific dose, we actually write our own label on it to tell people how to take it, that it has worked, not on every occasion, but on many occasion, even if it only the placebo effect, I don’t really care so long as people are getting well.’
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JBL ‘And you would sell stuff that you know doesn’t work’
MC ‘No, I don’t know, I never sell anything that doesn’t work’
JBL ‘You should pull of every homeopathic product off your shelves’
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MC ‘But I’m not selling them, there’s a bit difference between the two’
JBL ‘They’re on your shelf your selling them’
MC ‘Big Deal’
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JBL ‘The one thing I think about with pharmacists is that it’s fantastic when you can actually talk to them without a naturopath hanging off your leg’
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MC ‘Our shop assistants are all trained and they are almost like a mirror image to what I have to say, so at least we are on the right track. Now if you are in a supermarket you are not going to get that at all are you Loretta as far as I can tell’
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JBL ‘I asked the girl at our local pharmacy I said ‘Crocodile Dung was used as a contraceptive back in the Egyptian times. If I asked for that would you get it. “Oh yes, If I knew where to find it I’d order it in for you.” She was happy to get Oxygen4life, anything I wanted she would order in for me. This is not her job; as you have said she is just selling what I want.’
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JBL ‘It works for me is an argument, but it is not a scientific argument’
MC ‘No it’s not, I absolutely agree with that, but I’m not really talking about that’
Excerpts from 4BC radio interview
with Pharmacist Max Croft & The Jelly Bean Lady – 7:30pm 3 June 2006
MC ‘The proof to me is the proof that I have every day in my own pharmacy’
…
JBL ‘You’re a scientist Max, you really should be looking for the proof, not for anecdotal statements’
…
MC ‘Well, I don’t just shoot my mouth off at work Loretta to try to make money’
…
JBL ‘Would you sell, say a homeopathic hangover cure?’
MC ‘No, we don’t sell those’
JBL ‘Do you sell any homeopathic products?’
MC ‘Yes we do, we have it in stock, I don’t sell them, there’s a difference isn’t there – If someone comes in wants to buy something I don’t say “Oh that’s useless, why on earth are you buying it’
JBL ‘Why not? Because you’re a pharmacist. I go into my pharmacy I expect every product on the shelf to be endorsed by the person that runs the pharmacy as I would go into Harvey Norman and expect every television set to work’
MC ‘So every time you get a prescription you say to them look is stuff from a double blind test and is great faith and I know it’s going to fix me up. Come on Loretta, you know that’s not true’
JBL ‘I’m in a position to look at the tests to see what probability it will fix me up’
…
JBL ‘Results based on good solid scientific evidence’
…
MC ‘I can conduct my own trials if you like and that’s as far as I want to go.’
…
‘ We find (Echinacea) in a specific dose, we actually write our own label on it to tell people how to take it, that it has worked, not on every occasion, but on many occasion, even if it only the placebo effect, I don’t really care so long as people are getting well.’
…
JBL ‘And you would sell stuff that you know doesn’t work’
MC ‘No, I don’t know, I never sell anything that doesn’t work’
JBL ‘You should pull of every homeopathic product off your shelves’
…
MC ‘But I’m not selling them, there’s a bit difference between the two’
JBL ‘They’re on your shelf your selling them’
MC ‘Big Deal’
…
JBL ‘The one thing I think about with pharmacists is that it’s fantastic when you can actually talk to them without a naturopath hanging off your leg’
…
MC ‘Our shop assistants are all trained and they are almost like a mirror image to what I have to say, so at least we are on the right track. Now if you are in a supermarket you are not going to get that at all are you Loretta as far as I can tell’
…
JBL ‘I asked the girl at our local pharmacy I said ‘Crocodile Dung was used as a contraceptive back in the Egyptian times. If I asked for that would you get it. “Oh yes, If I knew where to find it I’d order it in for you.” She was happy to get Oxygen4life, anything I wanted she would order in for me. This is not her job; as you have said she is just selling what I want.’
…
JBL ‘It works for me is an argument, but it is not a scientific argument’
MC ‘No it’s not, I absolutely agree with that, but I’m not really talking about that’