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Ruby
21st May 2003, 03:31 PM
According to you, God is:

roger
21st May 2003, 03:37 PM
I voted "I don't believe in God, period"

Mercutio
21st May 2003, 03:41 PM
I would have voted "I don't believe in god, period" except that it implies that there is a god there that I don't believe in. No vote.

Tony
21st May 2003, 03:55 PM
If there is a god, I think its an abstract force structuring the cosmos.

arcticpenguin
21st May 2003, 04:07 PM
Why he's Mr. Skinny!

I think that might be the warm & personal option.

justsaygnosis
21st May 2003, 04:49 PM
Abstract force is the closest to my personal perception.
To be 'Franko'ish' I'd say that which is ultimately what governs TLOP.
I can't fathom any of the anthropomorphic deities who display the rabid manic and bi-polar characteristics ascribed to them.
If all the great minds of science have yet to synthesize a valid description of what people refer to as god I'm not going to lose any sleep that I couldn't do it in one post.

ntech
22nd May 2003, 05:32 AM
No religious group has ever been able to produce even a shred of evidence for the existence of a magical being in the sky that created the universe. It is a quaint story passed down by families that helps them deal with their fear of death and trials of life.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. There has been none.

Tricky
22nd May 2003, 06:10 AM
I certainly believe that there are forces that shape the universe, which, if you chose to, you could call "God". IMO, that is a cop-out. I think that even the most minimal definition of "God" would have to say that He/She/It is conscious, and for that, I see no evidence whatsoever.

whitefork
22nd May 2003, 06:12 AM
God is a concept by which we measure our pain - John Lennon

http://www.geocities.com/laozi2002/god.html

Skeptical Greg
22nd May 2003, 06:44 AM
I don't believe in God. Period not necessary..

Glad to see you found your nose..:D

FireGarden
22nd May 2003, 07:52 AM
In this merry world of fiction,
I would say that God represents our Beloved Leader (Who ever that may be)
Hell is Siberia (Or the front line, or anyplace else dissidents get sent)
And Heaven is Disney World (Or some other awful place that is supposed to be heaps of fun)

Consider the Pope.
He gets to talk direct to God, about finding peaceful solutions and avoiding wars. But sometimes God answers prayers with a "No"

Ruby
22nd May 2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by Diogenes
I don't believe in God. Period not necessary..

Glad to see you found your nose..:D

Thank you!!!:D :D :D

Crow T. Robot
22nd May 2003, 09:15 AM
Clapton. Sorry, just showing my age...

LCBOY
22nd May 2003, 09:16 AM
God is a loving and personal being. No period necessary. ::D

Skeptical Greg
22nd May 2003, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by LCBOY
God is a loving and personal being. No period necessary. ::D

God talks to you?

Can you get him/it(?) to answer some questions?

Darwin
22nd May 2003, 10:51 AM
I would vote for "I don´t believe in" but I do not think it fits as well as I´d like to.God has never tried to make me believe into something so I cannot say that I would not believe or disbelieve,humans have.
But I do not think there is,or has ever been one outside of biological sources in us and nature.

c4ts
22nd May 2003, 10:57 AM
"An intelligent universal force beyond human comprehension" seems to work. It doesn't need to care about anything or concern us. It may be an entity of some kind (for example, the cause of the big bang), or it could exist in a more active sense, like what we call the laws of physics.

EdwardG
22nd May 2003, 01:39 PM
I voted "He is dead" because it is my conviction that God as a concept has had its day.

Or to put it more emotively; God is tired, let us all allow Him to die in peace.

Skeptical Greg
22nd May 2003, 02:01 PM
Originally posted by EdwardG
I voted "He is dead" because it is my conviction that God as a concept has had its day.

Or to put it more emotively; God is tired, let us all allow Him to die in peace.

Sigh.. Yeah', but ain't he like that old LP, all scratched up, and you don't even have a phonogragh to play it own anymore, and you now have it on the digitally re-mastered CD with a copy of the original cover art..
But you just can't throw it out, cause when you hold it in your hand you can still smell her perfume when you danced and even more. But weren't it a bitch when you had to stop and flip it over.? ( the record.. ) :)

EdwardG
22nd May 2003, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes


Sigh.. Yeah', but ain't he like that old LP, all scratched up, and you don't even have a phonogragh to play it own anymore, and you now have it on the digitally re-mastered CD with a copy of the original cover art..
But you just can't throw it out, cause when you hold it in your hand you can still smell her perfume when you danced and even more. But weren't it a bitch when you had to stop and flip it over.? ( the record.. ) :)

:)

Ah but I wish it were this bitter-sweet.

Unfortunately I see it more akin to a blunt, filthy hypodermic needle, filled with sewage and being shared by a mob of desperate addicts.

Trinity
23rd May 2003, 04:19 AM
I voted universe. God is in everything.

Trinity

mindless
23rd May 2003, 04:23 AM
God is something that happens to other people

TylerD
23rd May 2003, 04:46 PM
I voted "I don't believe in God, period." I would've voted the "universe is God" option, but I find calling the universe "God" a little redundant.

triadboy
23rd May 2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Tony
If there is a god, I think its an abstract force structuring the cosmos.

No beard?

24th May 2003, 12:04 PM
Originally posted by Ruby
According to you, God is:

Hi Ruby :

Congratulations to your husband or couple.
You look very beautiful.

Maybe this quote reflects my "beleifs " :

"Thank God I am an atheist " by Luis Buñuel.

Have a nice day , preciosa (spanish).

Thanks,
S&S

Yahzi
24th May 2003, 01:56 PM
I define God as a cheese grater.

This allows me to make atheists look like fools for arguing against the existance of God.

It also makes pizza and tacos holy foods, thus justifying mass consumption of them.

ntech
24th May 2003, 02:56 PM
Originally posted by Yahzi
I define God as a cheese grater.

This allows me to make atheists look like fools for arguing against the existance of God.

It also makes pizza and tacos holy foods, thus justifying mass consumption of them.

What's a cheese grater? There is no such thing! Prove it's existence.

triadboy
24th May 2003, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by Yahzi
I define God as a cheese grater.


My Velveeta life will never submit to the illusion of your grater.

marxist2
24th May 2003, 05:19 PM
God is procrastinating making himself known to me, or I'm just very insensitive.

Alternatively God is dead, seeing as a concept such as death would be readily applicable to God. God being dead I snuck in after the funeral and ate God. End of story.

And God is Elvis, not Clapton.

Hand Bent Spoon
24th May 2003, 05:40 PM
There doesn't seem to be an agnostic option, so I'll abstain.

INRM
24th May 2003, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by ntech
No religious group has ever been able to produce even a shred of evidence for the existence of a magical being in the sky that created the universe. It is a quaint story passed down by families that helps them deal with their fear of death and trials of life.


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. There has been none.

That is nonsensical nonsense.

There has been some evidence, but it's mostly anecdotal and of little use to scientists. But to say there is not a shread of evidence. That is going way too far.

INRM

ntech
24th May 2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by INRM


That is nonsensical nonsense.

There has been some evidence, but it's mostly anecdotal and of little use to scientists. But to say there is not a shread of evidence. That is going way too far.

INRM

That’s the funny thing about a point of view. It’s personal. In my view, this is the case. Please share with me just one verifiable piece of evidence that points to the existence of god. Please.

ntech

evildave
24th May 2003, 10:12 PM
I have a big orange cooler with Gott on the side. Since Gott is German for God (as in 'Mein Gott'), my cooler must be God.

It says it's God, therefore it's God, and who could ever doubt the holy scripture on its side? Especially since it's written on God. How could anyone DOUBT this clear and absolute evidence that my cooler is God? Naysayers beware! You shall perish in lakes of fire begging for just a sip of Gott's goodness!

I'm not certain of the scriptural reference to Rubbermaid. Perhaps God has an inflatable girlfriend?

Zombified
24th May 2003, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by evildave
You shall perish in lakes of fire begging for just a sip of Gott's goodness!I need more evidence. Give me a frosty cold one from Gott, then perhaps I will believe you.

evildave
24th May 2003, 10:54 PM
Well, like any good religion, Gott contains whatever I fill it with.

Fill Mein Gott with punch, and Gott gives punch.

Fill Mein Gott with Everclear and Kool Ade, and Gott will lay you to wasted.

Fill Mein Gott with B.S., and ... well, you get the idea.

So, tell me what you want to sip before you come, and Gott will certainly provide it. I can guarantee to you I have not placed B.S. in Mein Gott, for Mein Gott is precious to me.

If it's too inconvenient, go get your own Gott. They're handy for camping, and when filled with ice and water, they'll provide cool goodness for a long weekend. Like, it's a miracle. Perhaps to be enjoyed with tacos, or pizza.

It even has a little cup dispenser thingy that can be attached to the side (sold separately).

Kilted_Canuck
24th May 2003, 10:59 PM
God is the Floating Invisible pink unicorn in my garage

triadboy
25th May 2003, 02:05 PM
If you don't believe in the talking snake. "God" becomes very distorted to Christians. Because without the talking snake, there is no hell and so there is no Jesus. If there is no Jesus, then you have no Trinity. (You have a dynamic duo.) A whole cubic butt-ton of prophesies go down the toilet too.

The talking snake is the key to the Christian religion! Isn't that sad?

triadboy
25th May 2003, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by INRM
But to say there is not a shread of evidence. That is going way too far.


The evidence you speak of would change everything. If there was 'god' evidence there would be no need to be skeptical about god.

Ruby
25th May 2003, 04:57 PM
Originally posted by S&S


Hi Ruby :

Congratulations to your husband or couple.
You look very beautiful.

Maybe this quote reflects my "beleifs " :

"Thank God I am an atheist " by Luis Buñuel.

Have a nice day , preciosa (spanish).

Thanks,
S&S :) :)

shemp
25th May 2003, 05:24 PM
If there was a god, and god was the universe itself, then everytime I pull a booger out of my nose I would see god. Every turd, every belch, every fart would be god.

Whoracle
25th May 2003, 09:49 PM
Other: I am God. Ok it's really the bottom option.

evildave
25th May 2003, 11:06 PM
I don't believe in any gods that have been presented to me so far, except in the basic manner that I "believe" in other fictions, like Yoda or Barney the Dinosaur.

Sure, maybe there is a god. Maybe there are trillions of them. So what? I'm certainly not going to send all my money to a church "just because" they say they know a god. The mosque, the synagogue and the temple nearby say they have versions of "the ultimate truth" as well. As do various other corny cults and such.

I simply don't care what people have to say in the name of their gods, any more than I care what they would say in the name of Yoda.

"Yoda would be disappointed in you for not believing in the force!"

Yeah, yeah, so take it to the your weekly Star Trek convention support group, or 'church'; whatever you want to call it.

FireGarden
26th May 2003, 02:15 AM
"Yoda would be disappointed in you for not believing in the force!"

Yeah, yeah, so take it to the your weekly Star Trek convention support group, or 'church'; whatever you want to call it.
You did that on purpose, you blaspheming ogre!

It's Star WARS!! :mad:

FireGarden
26th May 2003, 02:28 AM
The Bible believes in the Jedi Force:

Deuteronomy 34:7
And Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died: His eye was not dim, nor his natural Force abated.

Just like Obi-Wan (pbuh)


[I forget where I saw this joke before, sorry for pinching it]

thaiboxerken
26th May 2003, 05:32 AM
Over 8000 gods, and i don't believe in any of them.

evildave
26th May 2003, 10:12 AM
Yup, and for some reason the religiously afflicted can't get it through their heads that if there are 7999 other gods that we know of by name (many of which had fervent believers who would gladly kill or die for their deities) that are clearly "bogus" to them, why I should dismiss just one more myth.

triadboy
26th May 2003, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by evildave
Yup, and for some reason the religiously afflicted can't get it through their heads that if there are 7999 other gods that we know of by name (many of which had fervent believers who would gladly kill or die for their deities) that are clearly "bogus" to them, why I should dismiss just one more myth.

I think it comes down to this - we believe in one less god than Christians do.

evildave
26th May 2003, 10:30 AM
Or two or three, according to how you want to count them up.

EdwardG
26th May 2003, 11:13 AM
Originally posted by triadboy


I think it comes down to this - we believe in one less god than Christians do.

Which raises an interesting point - is believing in zero gods the same as having no belief?

The former sounds like an assertion - a positive expression of belief - while the latter sounds like an absence of belief - kind of like the difference between zero and null.


Splitting hairs or important point?

?

thaiboxerken
26th May 2003, 11:29 AM
Which raises an interesting point - is believing in zero gods the same as having no belief?

Yes.


The former sounds like an assertion - a positive expression of belief - while the latter sounds like an absence of belief - kind of like the difference between zero and null.

The assertion that there is no god, or that there are zero gods is a negative assertion. The assertion is totally dependant on the claims that there are gods. Unless! Someone claims that there are zero gods because the last one died, or some other nonsense to that affect.


Splitting hairs or important point?

?

Not important in the context of gaining knowledge. However, believers will always try to torture this point in a vain attempt to say that non-belief is based on faith or that atheists need to prove that there is no god. Appeals to ignorance are common among believers.