NOT Loose Change Related! GHOST FILMED!!! OH MY!!!

[rikzilla]

Found this on the local channel nine website:

WALKING GHOST FILMED IN NEW YORK (http://www.wnyparanormal.org/e107/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.86)
In November 2006, the curator and board of Valentown asked T.A.P.S. to conduct an investigation of their building along with the assistance of another local paranormal investigative group. The results of their investigations can be seen on their respective websites. Western New York Paranormal was granted permission to enter the building just prior to the airing of the Ghost Hunters episode on Sci-Fi. It would be interesting to see what results, if any could be correlated together.

Our team arrived shortly before 9 PM on Friday April 21st. That evening a heavy rainstorm was building that would contain high ends by the end of the investigation and lightning. The team entered the building first only with two technical people and two sensitives. The goal was to sense the building for the best places to place the unmanned video cameras and to help better plan concentration areas for the teams in this large building.

Initially the psychics felt that the building was “charged” with a lot of energy. Most of the energy was determined to be residual in nature from past events within the building. However there were a couple intelligent entities felt by both psychics within the building.

I think perhaps they should trumpet their time travelling abilities above their ghost-hunting skills! woo WOO!

:dl:
The tape seems to have been filmed in IR and other variously filtered ways. Supposedly a limping ghost moves right past an "investigator" who did not notice the ghost. Gee...I'd have thought she'd have felt a chill or a viba-ra-shun or a spike in her charka field or something?? :D

Not interesting? Well...it does make a break from watching the raving loosers.
Enjoy...and have a great fourth!!!

-z

[steve s]

Back in the '70s I used to read Model Railroader magazine a lot. They did a story about that old building at Valentown. Funny, they didn't mention anything about it being haunted. And their cameras didn't pick up anything unusual.

Steve S

[Meffy]

Maybe if they'd modelled the building in something big like G scale the ghosts might've shown up.

[edit] Or in O gauge -- Lionel, y'see, where when the locomotive hits the right place on the tracks the ghost swings out on a little mechanical (or ectoplasmic, as the case may be) arm...

[steve s]

Maybe if they'd modelled the building in something big like G scale the ghosts might've shown up.


They toured and photographed the actual building. They even had scale drawings for anyone interested in modeling it. IIRC, the railroad used to run right by the building.

Now let's see them photograph an orb in N scale. Or even Z scale.

Steve S

[Shrinker]

Haha, notice how they make a big deal of hiding the investigators identity because of some petty paranormal politics, and put those pixellated blobs over her face. Now watch it all the way to the end.


Oops!

[drfrank]

Well, it's obvious from the film that there is a figure there, which leaves only the options of an outright knowing fraud or a genuine paranormal event.

Certainly, the fact that it's a single static camera would make it simpler to superimpose a figure afterwards, especially coupled with the stupidly low resolution with JPEG compression errors coming out the wazoo.

[drfrank]

Two further observations about the film:

The film shows the same piece of footage played several times with different filters applied to make the alleged `ghost' more apparent.

There are two main glitches that occur during the video: one at time index 46:37 (by the counter on the video) and one at 46:55.

If you look through and keep track of the time index, you will see that, at least once, the 46:37 glitch occurs but not the 46:55 (the first version in the footage). Also, in one case the 46:55 glitch occurs but the 46:37 one does not (this can be seen in the red filtered version about 1:30 into the footage).

The only reasonable conclusion from this is that none of the versions of the video shown here are a direct copy of the original video that was taken, and that these glitches were introduced during the filtering of different versions of the video.

So where is the original, which by inference should have neither of these glitches?

[Nex]

What I find interesting is that I grew up in Victor, NY (where Valentown, the site in question, is located). I was even involved with some of the ghost investigating groups of the area back then. Not once have I heard that Valentown is supposedly haunted, not from local historians, the property owner, or from other investigators. Because of this discrepancy, I very strongly suspect WNYParanormal is pulling a hoax.

When Googling "Valentown haunted" I find nothing dated earlier than April 2006, the time of this taping. Granted, that doesn't prove a hoax, but it casts into suspicion the reason the "investigators" are even there. Valentown is, of course, not haunted, but by my knowledge it's also never been rumored to be.

But here's the smoking gun (from this page (http://www.wnyparanormal.org/e107/comment.php?comment.news.53)):
I am the one in the video footage...I am from RollingHills Ghost Hunting Society, not WYN paranormal. Futher more the footage IS NOT REAL! I have pics of a woman that i was giving a tour to the same night..as you can see in the video I am looking at my camera..meaning I took pics and have her in them.Further more frame work has been done and the video shows "glitches"..within these glitches is another room not Valentown or the room in which footage was taken. I have proof that the image in the video is not real...WYN was made aware of this, obviously they don't care what the TRUTH IS!

Also...i did not give permission to use my photo on the internet...especially when someone is calling debunkable evidence the real thing.
I don't know is this really is the woman she claims to be. If so, good on her for being honest. If not, well... :con2:

[gfunkusarelius]

to me, it looks....interesting. not because it seems real, but because it is just sort of weird. looks like a person climbing stairs in double speed with some frames chopped out...and when watching the "original" footage it almost looked like oldschool fim emulsion tricks because it was so crappy and blobular. it must be fun making these craptastic things and having people run with them...

[rikzilla]

to me, it looks....interesting. not because it seems real, but because it is just sort of weird. looks like a person climbing stairs in double speed with some frames chopped out...and when watching the "original" footage it almost looked like oldschool fim emulsion tricks because it was so crappy and blobular. it must be fun making these craptastic things and having people run with them...

Well it made Washington DC local CBS affiliates' website. Guess it was a slow news day?

WUSATV9 (http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=50214)

I don't suppose the story will be retracted???

-z