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Imaginative
21st July 2006, 09:02 AM
Here, for your perusal are three, what I call, strange things that I have experienced and have no logical answer for. What those answers might be, I'll leave to you wonderful bunch of skeptics. Enlighten me please.

1. I woke up one morning to the feeling that someone or something had sat down on the other side of my bed, I then felt it lie down, at which point I felt something solid butt up against my back, like I was lying back to back with someone as I lay on my side. From the moment I felt a weight on my bed I came awake immediately and remember looking at the alarm clock, it was early morning and was light outside. All the while I was petrified to turn over and check what I could feel. I eventually did turn over and of course there was nothing there and the door to my room was closed.

2. I was living with my wife in a bed-sit, in a converted terraced house when we first got married. The Landlord owned the bottom of the house and our two room bed-sit was directly above his back bathroom. Some time during Friday night/Saturday morning, I came awake very abruptly with a feeling that I can only describe as something ice-cold washing through the entire length of my whole body, but coming from underneath as I was lying on my back and passing through me in a matter of seconds. It was enough to bring me instantly awake; I even woke my wife as my body must have jolted when I felt this feeling. I told her what had just happened and we both finally went back to sleep. Over the next couple of days we noted that we hadn’t seen or heard the landlord's presence in the house. On Monday morning my wife said that she was going to check in on him after we came home from work that evening. On our return though, we found a coroner’s vehicle parked outside and some people in bio suits coming out of the house. We then found out that the Landlord had died in his bath and they were removing his body. I asked if they knew when he had died or how long he had been dead and they said that estimated that he had died some time between Friday and Saturday morning. It was then that I started to think about what I had felt and the fact that his bathroom was directly below our bedroom and that maybe what I felt was some sort of life force leaving the body and passing through me on its way to wherever. Of course, time has allowed me to look back at what happened and reject the supernatural explanation but it does make me wonder just a bit because of the circumstances and the fact that I never before or after, have had a similar experience.

3. This one, although trivial, is something not easily forgotten or ignored. I had a pet budgie for a number of years and it was a true family pet because of its tameness. One night I had a dream about the budgie where I was trying to get him to step onto my hand to take him out of his cage but he wouldn’t come to me and kept moving away. When I woke up that morning I went to his cage and found him dead at the bottom of the cage. Again, my dream of the budgie may well have been a coincidence but like before, I had never remembered having a dream about him or since either.

Ryokan
21st July 2006, 10:56 AM
1. I woke up one morning to the feeling that someone or something had sat down on the other side of my bed, I then felt it lie down, at which point I felt something solid butt up against my back, like I was lying back to back with someone as I lay on my side. From the moment I felt a weight on my bed I came awake immediately and remember looking at the alarm clock, it was early morning and was light outside. All the while I was petrified to turn over and check what I could feel. I eventually did turn over and of course there was nothing there and the door to my room was closed.

Sounds like sleep paralysis.

Molinaro
21st July 2006, 11:13 AM
1. Cat? Dog? I guess you would have mentioned if you had one in the house. My 2nd guess would be some kind of tightening of the back muscles, like a cramp or spasm.

2. I've experienced something like that quite often caused by a nightmare. It's essentialy what is being refered to when someone says, "that gave me the chills". Or landlord may very well have cried out, or made some kind of noise that you just barely heard while sleeping. If it was some kind of cry of anguish, you may well have been given 'the chills' by the sound.

3. Coincidence. Unless you care to also suggest that the times you didn't dream about the budgie also meant something?



Here is an interesting coincidence I experienced. I got a siamese kitten from a neighbour as a gift back in 2000. My mother, who lives 500 miles away, sent me a little gift after hearing about the kitten.

She sent me a little kitty figurine that had little angelic wings.

I didn't know she was sending it.

I received it the day after the kitten died.

I told nobody about the death of the kitten.

She bought it the day before it died.

Bruno Putzeys
21st July 2006, 11:19 AM
2. I have these "cold shocks" usually when I have a dreadful realisation (like I forgot an important appointment). It's called "cold sweat". It also happens when for no reason I wake up with a shock.
3. How often have you dreamt of the pet and he didn't die?

pchams
21st July 2006, 11:39 AM
3. was the pet old, or had it been acting differently?
You may simply have been expecting the death and were working it out in your subconcious.

rachaella
21st July 2006, 12:22 PM
The story about the budgie reminds me of a story from when my parents had taken in a pregnant and destitute member of their church. She had gone with the woman, Karen, to the doctor's that day and they had done some tests but the results hadn't come back and if they had, they didn't tell Karen or my mom yet that Karen's baby had serious birth defects and would probably only survive only hours after birth. That night my mother had a dream that Karen had her baby and it died right after being born. At the time, being a fundamentalist christian, she decided that it was god telling her that Karen's baby wouldn't make it. But now, looking back on it, the people doing the tests may have acted somewhat suspiciously and suspected or knew that something was horribly wrong but were unable to know for sure so had to try and pretend they didn't know or suspect anything. My mom may have unconsciously picked up on the strange behavior and the dream was simply a reflection of that.

skoob
21st July 2006, 12:32 PM
I think it's important to note that in both of these cases, you only realized the significance of your "premonitions" after the events had happened. They would have been a lot more interesting if you had understood what would take place after your dreams, but before the actual events happened.

As it is, you are interpreting your dreams based on what you think they mean. It is e.g. possible that you are ignoring things in your dreams that are inconsistent with the events that followed. For instance, from your description, it doesn't sound like the budgie was dead in your dream.

ETA: I forgot to say that your interpretation of your dreams is the key thing here. I could think of lots of other events that your dreams could be predictions of. #1 could be some one breaking in to your home, #2 could be your basement being flooded and #3 could be your budgie escaping. If any of those happened instead, would you still consider your dreams to be premonitious?

JamesDillon
21st July 2006, 12:47 PM
What's a "budgie"?

Apathia
21st July 2006, 12:53 PM
What's a "budgie"?

A parakeet. Small tropical caged bird.

FreakBoy
22nd July 2006, 12:19 AM
I suffer from Sleep Paralysis and number 1 sounds JUST LIKE IT.

Not fun stuff, that.

Imaginative
24th July 2006, 04:15 AM
Thanks guys/gals, you haven't disappointed me with your replies, just what I expected.

Just to reiterate that all these things that happened were one offs.

I did think about Sleep Paralysis, but as I had never experienced it before or since, I didn't think that there was any other phenomena associated with it, i.e. the bed dipping down on one side and feeling something touching me.

Oh, and I'd never dream't about my budgie in any capacity before that night.

I agree, it is easy to analyse things after the event and read more into it, but that's what people tend to do more often than not when faced with something that seems more than just coincidence or out of the ordinary.

FreakBoy
24th July 2006, 06:49 AM
I did think about Sleep Paralysis, but as I had never experienced it before or since, I didn't think that there was any other phenomena associated with it, i.e. the bed dipping down on one side and feeling something touching me.

Since I was about 15 I've experienced sleep paralysis at least once per month and at various times up to 5 times in a week.

The list of associated affects are simply various things that CAN happen. I've had the experience go from as mild as simply a moment of inability to move which passes... to full on halucinations associated with it.

My experiences have run the entire gamut of those listed in any place online I've found.

From not being able to move, to interesting hypnogogic eye-patterns, distorted hearing, increase (or perceived increase) in heart rate, feelings of pressure on chest, sense of presense in the room, sense of leaving my body, etc.

What a wonderfully crazy machine the brain is.

arthwollipot
24th July 2006, 07:05 AM
What's a "budgie"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budgerigar

Budgie is the common term in Australia, where "budgerigar" is just too long a word for us to be bothered with.

EBU
25th July 2006, 01:24 PM
As long as we're discussing strange things...

The summer when I was 10 years old (and still a Christian), my mother was sick in the hospital. And when I said my prayers each night, I prayed that she would come home soon. One night when I got to that part of my prayer, I heard a voice say very clearly, "She's dead." And she was.

Back then, people didn't tell kids very much. I had no idea how sick she was and until that moment, the idea that she might die never even occurred to me. But I knew at that moment that she was dead, without a shadow of a doubt.

What do you think?

Ryokan
25th July 2006, 02:39 PM
I did think about Sleep Paralysis, but as I had never experienced it before or since, I didn't think that there was any other phenomena associated with it, i.e. the bed dipping down on one side and feeling something touching me.

You better believe it! Freaky things can happen during sleep paralysis.

Here's a thread about my episode last year. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=48181)

It still creeps me out just thinking about it.

grayman
25th July 2006, 03:30 PM
I suffer from Sleep Paralysis and number 1 sounds JUST LIKE IT.

Not fun stuff, that.

I had episodes that upset me ( especially after reading Communion). But after reading about Sleep Paralysis and studying a bit the episodes went away and it's been several years now. It seems as though once I learned the trick, it wasn't worth doing any more.