A.N.S.W.E.R. Infiltrated

[Nie Trink Wasser]

UPDATE(5/29/03): A.N.S.W.E.R. INFILTRATED
The international Communist front A.N.S.W.E.R. recently held their worldwide conference in New York City to plot their diabolical 'Action Plan' for the upcoming Fall. Alan infiltrated it with a hidden video camera, and sat in on their strategy sessions and speeches. Watch this video, and then come to the Forum as we plan our counter-attack against these enemies of liberty.


http://protestwarrior.com/



the video is here : http://idisk.mac.com/kfiralfia/Public/protest_warrior/video/A.N.S.W.E.R.%20Infilitrated.mpg

[Nie Trink Wasser]

enjoy the video ?

[davidhorman]

I downloaded it out of curiosity (all 90mb of it), then I found it was an MPEG2 so it wasn't going to play in Media Player. A modded version of VirtualDub did the trick eventually, but I wasn't going to sit there and strain my ears to hear what was being said.

The words "worldwide", "diabolical" and "infiltrated" seem a little hyperbolic in this context though. Still, maybe he did have to wear a Mission: Impossible style mask and voice box to infiltrate A.N.S.W.E.R.'s hidden rebel base, I dunno.

David

[aerocontrols]

I can't watch it either.

Too bad.

[Skeptic]

The international Communist front A.N.S.W.E.R. recently held their worldwide conference in New York City to plot their diabolical 'Action Plan' for the upcoming Fall.

I dunno. "Diabolical" is a bit of a hyperbole, isn't it?

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Originally posted by Skeptic


I dunno. "Diabolical" is a bit of a hyperbole, isn't it?


for humorous effect, yes............

but it doesnt change what is on the video.

[davidhorman]

but it doesnt change what is on the video.

Again just out of curiousity, but what is on the video?

David

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Again just out of curiousity, but what is on the video?



one of the guys from protestwarrior.com takes a hidden camera and mic into the ANSWER function and records what they're discussing in their meetings and seminars.

there is no other narraration besides the editing choices.......the whole video is left up to the ANSWERpatients to reveal exactly what their motives are.

[Skeptic]

one of the guys from protestwarrior.com takes a hidden camera and mic into the ANSWER function and records what they're discussing in their meetings and seminars.


Weeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllll.......

Despite all the tough talk, 99% of A.N.S.W.E.R.'s memebership is obviously from the "college kid without a girlfriend/boyfriend" demographics. If they can't get a date, what make you think they can arrange a worldwide communist revolution?

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Weeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllll.......

Despite all the tough talk, 99% of A.N.S.W.E.R.'s memebership is obviously from the "college kid without a girlfriend/boyfriend" demographics. If they can't get a date, what make you think they can arrange a worldwide communist revolution?



the only detail is that these losers pull in an massive collection of dupes to run around screaming and spitting.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser



the only detail is that these losers pull in an massive collection of dupes to run around screaming and spitting.

And you are one of those dupes that was pulled in?

[Luke T.]

Well, I guess everybody knows how I feel about ANSWER. Just type ANSWER into the search function on this forum if you don't. :D

I am currently at work, and this computer doesn't have a sound card, which is probably a good thing. The last thing I need is for my boss to hear a communist plot to take over the world coming from my cubicle. :eek:

Is there a transcript, NTW?

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer


And you are one of those dupes that was pulled in?


WHOA HO HO


look who it is !


comedy on a stick !

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Is there a transcript, NTW?





I'll look around and see if I can drudge one up.

[PygmyPlaidGiraffe]

Originally posted by Skeptic
one of the guys from protestwarrior.com takes a hidden camera and mic into the ANSWER function and records what they're discussing in their meetings and seminars.


Weeeeeeeeeelllllllllllllllll.......

Despite all the tough talk, 99% of A.N.S.W.E.R.'s memebership is obviously from the "college kid without a girlfriend/boyfriend" demographics. If they can't get a date, what make you think they can arrange a worldwide communist revolution?

Did you infiltrate this insidious (chuckle) diabolical (chortle) group?

or were you duped?

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Originally posted by Luke T.

Is there a transcript, NTW? [/B]

http://www.protestwarrior.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1924


OPENING PLENARY
"Good morning. Welcome back to day two of the International A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition, national organizing conference against war, colonial occupation, and imperialism.

Those of us here in this room are the most important people in the United States today.

We are the people who will build a permanent, anti-imperialist, anti-racist, movement here in the heart of the empire. We are the

We have traveled from all over the country, some of us thousands of miles, to stand here and analyze where we are as a movement and where we need to go to build a stronger movement to stand shoulder to shoulder with our sisters and brothers who are on the front lines with the struggle against empire.


Okay. So let's get started on the portion of the agenda where we all get a chance to talk, and I would like to appeal to my fellow European American males to not be the first ones to shoot your hands up or to get up on the floor, but to give everyone else a chance to speak first and try not to dominate the discussion.

Okay. So let's get started as quickly as we can so we have as much time to discuss things as possible. Thank you.


WORKSHOP
SARAH (Head of International A.N.S.W.E.R outreach):
Okay so we're gonna start.
ones who will build a true solidarity movement with the people who are struggling for self-determination and civil liberties.

First off I'd like to explain a little more about the purpose of this discussion group.

Especially in the last year, through our efforts we have been able to create in the United States, and in coordination with the anti-war organizations around the world, a global movement. The good part about what has happened in the last year is that people are listening to each other around the world. When we called for October 26th, a national action democracy weekend in San Francisco, people were happy and excited that there was an initial presence in the U.S. for mass globalization and many groups in many countries decided to coordinate with us.

WOMAN:
. . . the next step in a longer process initiated by the ultra right-wing foreign policy team in the White House and the Pentagon who seek to overthrow the Cuban government and return Cuba to a state of colonialism. The global anti-war movement that now exists in all countries can, through its united actions, strengthen solidarity with the Cuban people at this critical hour. We encourage people to consider federal buildings and other central locations for demonstrations in your city or town.

YOUNG GUY:
The A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition congratulates the local Philadelphia organizations who have come together to issue a call for thousands of people to join in a national march on July 4th in Philadelphia protesting U.S. wars at home and abroad. The A.N.S.W.E.R. coalition urges its organizing centers and all people of conscience to be in the streets of Philadelphia . In addition to the July 4th national protest, a number of groups are sponsoring local and regional protests on that weekend.


OLD WOMAN:
September 27th, internationally coordinated day of action against occupation and empire and in solidarity with those who resist. From Palestine to Iraq to the Philippines to Cuba, and everywhere. September 27th, which is my daughter's birthday . . .

[laughter -- "That's a coincidence."]

. . . .is the third anniversary of the beginning of the second Intifada of the Palestinian people whose resistance against colonial occupation in the past decades has been the very center of the anti-colonial struggle throughout the Middle East. This will be an global action of solidarity with all of those who are resisting empire.


BRIAN (One of the top A.N.S.W.E.R. officials):
So the action plan shouldn't be viewed as just a series of demos; like here's a demo, here's another demo, here's one issue, here's another issue. It's the concept of peoples' power, it's the concept of grassroots organizing. And there may be many demonstrations and this may not even be the key to it. July 4th is not going to be the key because it's right before. If there's a crisis in Korea or this thing with Cuba heats up and there's some sort of military confrontation, just as we did with Iraq, we'll switch, we'll shift over and focus on that global, globally-central issue.


MAN:
We really should focus not just on the war and occupation which should be our main thing because it's act now to stop war, but the flip side of that is instead of that, let's fund human needs! And I think that should be stressed more at our next big rally in Philadelphia or wherever.

ARAB MAN:
So maybe we need to marry the concept of discrediting the election with the concept of educating people about where the real power lies. It's in the streets and people mobilizing, as an alternative instead of backing candidates, do a power-to-the-people campaign where we run the people, the masses as the candidate, so that the people take charge.


OLD MAN:
I hate to point out that the Constitution itself sucks; there's a lot wrong with it. There's no right to healthcare, no right to education, no right to jobs, none of that is in there. Racism, anti-gay bigotry, none of that is outlawed by the Constitution. Those are the things that need to be in a real peoples' constitution. It's important to point out because we keep defending the Constitution, but it's a Constitution that's extremely weak and does not represent what people need. And when we defend the Constitution we have to go one step further and say "this is what a real constitution should look like."


BLACK WOMAN:
It really clarified things when the economy starts to you know go sour and I actually picked up a copy of Communist Manifesto and started reading what Marx said, that every ten years there's a boom and bust system, and it's like, "Oh okay, I get it!" You know like I read it before and didn't get it, it didn't apply, you know? And now that I read it again it applies! It's like, "Oh okay, I get it!" You know, I think.

Also, some of you have gone around suggesting that, we've held all this protesting; it doesn't seem as though the administration is listening. So you know, why don't we just pick a day where everybody just withdraws their money from banks, just massively just go up to their money, go to banks, get their money out, and hold it for a weekend?

You know, that's something that we can do, you know? People can do, they can do it quietly so they don't have to go to a protest or anything you know, just do it. And you know, just don't buy anything for a few hours, and say, say you know, "We've against this administration, so why should we contribute, you know, to the economy of this country?"


ARAB WOMAN:
This country was founded on violence. This country has been doing this since it began and I think that people need to understand that. Without it we'd always have that look on the website, if you want the truth of what happened read this book.


BRIAN:
. . . issues so people are not voting about Iraq, the Iraq war, which is an alternative to what Congress did, but the affirmative thing that says we want this, this, this, and this. We want money for jobs, education, and housing; not for war, not for wars of aggression, and do you feel that way?

Because it's not going to be in the debates, it's not going to be in the primaries, it's not going to be explicit, it's not going to be on the ballot, it may be too late to even get it in referendum form except in some areas, but we can do an independent campaign and possibly get millions of people to sign this and then we can go to candidate forums and other things that where people can potentially join the debate, and go on and say, this is the missing voice, and that's an idea, something like that.

So we have demonstrations in New York, L.A., San Francisco, it may be too late for other cities that haven't already planned something but in general I mean, are people feeling all right with this as something we should be doing to stop the war?

[Rumblings of agreement]

Okay now, just a mention of September 27th. It looks like the Arab world is calling coordinated demonstrations at the anniversary of the beginning of the Intifada with the third and second Intifada that started a few years ago in Palestine; the uprising to evict Israel from the West Bank and Gaza, the occupied territories. The idea is, I've already talked with the European movement, they may be proclaiming September 27th as a day for their coordinated actions as well; so if it works out we might be able to have another global date.

It may not be the same numbers, maybe it will, maybe it won't, but the focus this time would be solidarity with all of those who are resisting occupation, from Iraq, Palestine, the Philippines, if the Philippines is reinvaded, and as Joe said in his remarks yesterday, they're turning the whole Philippines into a base.

And Cuba, Cuba is an occupied country, even though they had the revolution in '59, the naval base, the U.S. naval base at Guantanamo occupies a huge section of Cuba and the U.S. won't leave and that's where they built all the prisons.

It's trying to show that there is an empire, there is resistance to the empire, and that the people of the United States are not the beneficiaries of empire. We're standing with those who stand true against it.

CLOSING PLENARY
Next I'd like to introduce Richard Becker. Richard Becker is the co-director of the San Francisco office for the International Action Center.

[Applause - Standing Ovation.]

RICHARD:
Thank you. I would just like to talk a little about the lessons of the last year. You know as soon as the Iraq war fighting ended, the main fighting, the lessons of Iraq began to be issued.

John Bolton, the Under Secretary of State for Disarmament, who is truly a fascist maniac, said "North Korea, Syria and Iran should learn the lessons of Iraq." And the next day the Israeli Defense Minister said, "The Palestinians should learn the lessons of Iraq." And the day after that, the U.S. Ambassador to the Dominican Republic said that "Cuba should learn the lessons of Iraq."

And what exactly are the lessons that they are talking about here?

I mean we should look at that. They're saying, "If you don't do what we want you to do, then we'll do to you what we did to Iraq. We'll destroy your country, we'll bomb your people, we'll impose sanctions, blockades, starvation."

I think that's called a terrorist threat.

[Wild Applause.]

VIDEO
Images of people and stock footage of nuclear and missile tests, intermixed with pictures of President Bush, Osama Bin Laden, Kim Jong Ill and Stalin as a nuclear warning siren runs in the background, words flash across the screen quickly. A woman screaming starts up, words such as, "Pre-Emptive" and "These People" flash across the screen, more pictures of Islamic terrorists intercut with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell and Wolfowitz. A short segment of them accosting some Congressman about nuclear testing and atomic weapons.

[Wild Applause]

FEMALE A.N.S.W.E.R OFFICIAL:
See you in Omaha!

RICHARD BRECKER:
Thank you very much to everyone for coming! On to July 4th! On to September 27th! Stop the war! End the Colonial occupation from Iraq to Palestine! Thank you! This conference is closed."

END

[richardm]

It's not very diabolical, as diabolical plots go, is it? "Let's have a day where we, like, take loads of money out of the bank and, like, not buy anything with it!"

:rolleyes:

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Originally posted by richardm
It's not very diabolical, as diabolical plots go, is it? "Let's have a day where we, like, take loads of money out of the bank and, like, not buy anything with it!"

:rolleyes:


the point isnt the word "diabolical"

the point is that this group is behind a very large movement against everything the American government is doing and the people who passionately believe in the Communist Manifesto and the overthrow of the supposed "US empire" are teaching in our schools and working to subvert crucial operations and functions in this country and the world.

for me, these people are a threat to my way of life in the name of their "ideals".

but you can believe what you like.

or have fun and games with the word "diabolical" instead of treating this for what it is.

[richardm]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser

or have fun and games with the word "diabolical" instead of treating this for what it is.

Right. I'll come right out and say that I've never heard of this group before, but based on what is in the transcript they're not saying anything that's either new, radical or even particularly unexpected.

the point is that this group is behind a very large movement against everything the American government is doing

... or at least, the bits that it disagrees with. Isn't this the point of a free country, that you can discuss these ideas? The thought espoused in the transcript are popular ideas worldwide, and have been for decades. This is why the movement appears to be large. But if they turn out to be really rabid anarchists then you'll probably find that the movement is not as large as you think.

I'm prepared to stand corrected. If the point isn't that they're diabolical, I'm at a loss to know what the problem is. The worst they seem is naive.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

you and I both know that eveyone in this country has the right to believe what they want. That is not the issue.

The issue is that not enough people understand who these people fund, who their proganda is focused on, and what their real motives are.

http://www.internationalanswer.org/

[richardm]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
The issue is that not enough people understand who these people fund, who their proganda is focused on, and what their real motives are.

http://www.internationalanswer.org/

No, and the transcript certainly didn't offer any insight. It sounded a lot like a meeting of undergraduates anywhere, to be honest. I'll take a look at the link, thanks.

[Frank Newgent]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
The issue is that not enough people understand who these people fund, who their proganda is focused on, and what their real motives are.

http://www.internationalanswer.org/


Is your real name Merkwuerdigichliebe (http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~smijusko/drstrangelove/)?

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Originally posted by Frank Newgent



Is your real name Merkwuerdigichliebe (http://dekart.f.bg.ac.yu/~smijusko/drstrangelove/)?



no.

It's Oliver Stone.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser




no.

It's Oliver Stone.

...and is your avatar David Hasselhoff?

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Originally posted by BillyTK


...and is your avatar David Hasselhoff?


now I am certain you have an LD disease.

first you don't know who it is, then you think it's Hasselhoff.

when you find out who it is, the sheer joy will feel almost like an orgasm (if you know what that is).

[jj]

No way I'm going to load that down.

From the transcript it sounds like a bunch of ineffective, young idealists who haven't yet figured out how to brush their teeth.

Humorous, perhaps. . . .

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by jj
No way I'm going to load that down.

From the transcript it sounds like a bunch of ineffective, young idealists who haven't yet figured out how to brush their teeth.

Humorous, perhaps. . . .

As a group, they didn't look that young to me.

[jj]

Originally posted by aerocontrols


As a group, they didn't look that young to me.

I read the transcript, didn't see the video. If they aren't young, then they have a devastating reality problem.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser



now I am certain you have an LD disease.

first you don't know who it is, then you think it's Hasselhoff.

when you find out who it is, the sheer joy will feel almost like an orgasm (if you know what that is).
LD? As in learning disorder? Bit of an oxymoron to say "learning disorder disease", as well as being innaccurate; as is your second statement.

It's a shame Net Nanny isn't used more extensively...

[Tony]

Thanks for posting the transcript NTW. People like these are the reason I go strapped.

[BillyTK]

I've infiltrated th ANSWER website to find out their diabolical Action Plan (http://www.iacenter.org/answer_03updated.htm) and... THEY'RE GOING TO MARCH TO PROTEST STUFF! It's the end of democracy as we know it...

[Cain]

Thank you for bringing this to our immediate attention. This just proves once again, contrary to propaganda seen in the _New York Times_, that the global communist conspiracy is alive and well.

Read in between the lines, folks. Josef Stalin secretly faked his death and now runs ANSWER out of the back room of a dry cleaners in Cleveland. It's all in there.

As Ann Coulter says, we need to physically intimidate such people. Osama Bin Laden could activate these terrorist cells without a moment's notice.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

Originally posted by BillyTK

LD? As in learning disorder? Bit of an oxymoron to say "learning disorder disease", as well as being innaccurate; as is your second statement.

It's a shame Net Nanny isn't used more extensively...



try harder, please.

[Nie Trink Wasser]

FIGHTING HUNGER, purging the vestiges of colonialism, cleaning up the environment—these are all causes the left ostensibly supports.

Someone ought to tell that to the 2,000 leftist protesters who took to the streets of Sacramento last week.

There, dressed as giant ears of corn, butterflies and tomatoes, protesters assembled outside what would have otherwise been an unremarkable event: a gathering of agricultural ministers, scientists, and health-care experts from more than 100 countries to discuss methods for using advanced technology to combat famine and improve nutrition.

While the dignitaries met inside, the protesters rallied outside with puppets and signs bearing catchy phrases like “Feed the needy, not the greedy.” The display was a far cry from the anti-war vomit-ins or the Seattle anti-WTO riots, but that didn’t stop the activists from having a grand time. After the official protest, the Associated Press reports, some 20 activists “doffed their clothes and danced on the steps of the state Capitol, then began an unauthorized parade through downtown Sacramento”—all to condemn the use of genetically modified (GM) foods.

...............So Africans continue to starve; and the continent routinely suffers from droughts, poor nutrition, and sundry environmental dangers—in no small measure because of European Luddism cheered on by eco-radicals in the American Left.




Chris Weinkopf (http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8689)

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser




try harder, please.

Happy to oblige:

IT'S A SHAME NET NANNY ISN'T USED MORE EXTENSIVELY.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
*some random website NTW has linked to*
Ah yes, this will be an example of the butterfly effect: "leftists" protest in Sacramento which disturbs the weather patterns sufficiently to produce droughts in Africa. Gotta love that kid.

[Nikk]

Originally posted by BillyTK


Happy to oblige:

IT'S A SHAME NET NANNY ISN'T USED MORE EXTENSIVELY.

I must say I'm impressed by the daring and resourcefulness displayed in escaping alive from this nest of commie serpents with a video and sound recording.

I look forward to the sequel which my spies tell me will be obtained at the Al Quaeda annual target selection conference ( all-you-can-eat pig roast, 50 Riyahls, optional ) with anticipation.:roll: