View Full Version : HIV deniers, the dangers of pseudo-science become apparent
the_ignored
29th May 2003, 08:54 PM
Check this (http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/steve/) out:
List of HIV deniers (http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/group.htm)
Evolution deniers are not the only pseudoscientists who make lists of "scientists" to try to support their position. This is a list of those who deny that the HIV virus causes AIDS. It lists Phillip Johnson, Jonathan Wells, and Tom Bethel -- who are also evolution deniers -- as signers.
For more on refuting Johnson (http://www.talkdesign.org/faqs/johnson.html)
DialecticMaterialist
30th May 2003, 01:29 AM
Phillip Johnson denies that HIV causes AIDS too?
Man, talk about shooting the credibility from your already questionable case.
Though I fail to see how either AIDS or HIV were intelligently designed.
Darwin
30th May 2003, 07:08 AM
A good point to remember next time you´re reading some of related propaganda.
I wonder what this site is after.
Dancing David
30th May 2003, 10:07 AM
I looked over the site, it is very interesting that all the quotes are from almost ten years ago, they don't say if any one has recanted thier viewpoint.
Gee it's pretty well determined that people with increasing HIV infection get the AIDs syndrome.
I wonder why they are doing this, esp. since all thier citations are old and/or not from the mainstream. they even slam the CDC in the letter. Yeah, there is a revolutionary group for you.
TylerD
30th May 2003, 04:14 PM
I know that creationists wish to deny the validity of modern science in order to justify their own favorite mythology, but what could possibly be the motivation behind this?
AmateurScientist
31st May 2003, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by TylerD
I know that creationists wish to deny the validity of modern science in order to justify their own favorite mythology, but what could possibly be the motivation behind this?
I'm only speculating, but I suppose one motivation might be to push the notion that AIDS is punishment from God for engaging in homosexuality, extra-marital sex, and intravenous drug use. I think that is what is often taught, even today, in many fundamentalist churches. I know plenty of people who believe this.
After all, God is all powerful, right? What chance does science have against Him? These same people regard science as an evil, malevolent force of the Devil masquerading as an agent of positive change. Science's real purpose is to turn people away from God.
Science teaches us that the transmission of HIV usually leads to AIDS. God and His Word tell us otherwise.
See?
:D :D
AS
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