you Guys forgot something

[JollyRoger]

no conspiracy forum is complete without chem-trails threads :D

[TobiasTheViking]

well, thanks for starting one.

I'll be the first to disent.

Chem-trails is bunk.

[Matthew Best]

What is a chem-trail?

[Hutch]

What is a chem-trail?

Well, Matt, if you look up into the clear blue sky on a lazy fall day, you may see a jet crossing the sky, with the white contrail stretching out and gradually dissipating into the surrounding blueness. If you live near one of the major routes, you can see three or four jets at a time, sometimes with their contrails crossing. And which of us hasn't watched such a sight sometime in our life?

Well, to the chemtrail CT, it is more than just a idle moment; it is proof positive that the US Government/United Nations/Illuminati are spreading Chemicals in the air we breathe to control and modify our behavior so that we all become willing drones of the "Powers behind the Scene".

Exactly what these chemicals are and how they manage to influence us is not exactly the CT'ers strongpoints, mind you; but they occasionally do produce some pretty pictures...

Here are a couple of good places to start:

http://www.rense.com/general2/chemss.htm

http://thebiggestsecret.online.fr/chemtrails/chemtrails_index.htm

There is also a couple of threads over at the Bad Astronomy (BAUT) Forum (you'll have to go search for them) about chemtrails from some believers.

Have fun.

[apathoid]

Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!!

Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years.

[defaultdotxbe]

this is your standard GT (generic theory)

well, theres these chemicals in the planes exhaust, im not sure what they are or what they do, but i can tell you the govt is definately behind it

[Meffy]

If I wanted to get chemicals into people, I couldn't think of a better way than to scatter them in the upper atmosphere.

Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live.

[Hutch]

Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live.


...and since you are an expert in scattering chemicals...;) :p :D

[FramerDave]

Is anyone else tired as heck of checking in to JREF only to find the same old 9/11 CT drivel?

I'll be very glad to finally see people get tired of it and move on to something else.

Edit: Oh, I didn't notice they now have their own special little place here. Yay! Now I don't have to wade through the offal looking for something more interesting.

[Matthew Best]

it is proof positive that the US Government/United Nations/Illuminati are spreading Chemicals in the air we breathe to control and modify our behavior

You have got to be kidding me!

[Meffy]

...and since you are an expert in scattering chemicals...;) :p :D
Well -- not so much scattering as directing, but thank you for the thought. =^_^=

[defaultdotxbe]

You have got to be kidding me!
i know, its almost as good as alex jones's lithium baby batteries

[brodski]

Is anyone else tired as heck of checking in to JREF only to find the same old 9/11 CT drivel?
I've seen this comment a couple of times now, what is so offensive to people about discussing ct's?Why does this topic get criticized in the same way that,say, the endless Kumar/ MAS h'pathy threads didn't get?
This is a genuine question and not meant to be a criticism of you FramerDave.

[FramerDave]

I've seen this comment a couple of times now, what is so offensive to people about discussing ct's?Why does this topic get criticized in the same way that,say, the endless Kumar/ MAS h'pathy threads didn't get?
This is a genuine question and not meant to be a criticism of you FramerDave.

It's not necessarily offensive, just repetitive and tedious. Boring, reading the same things over and over again. The same applies to the MAS threads too. Surely there are other things to discuss?

[brodski]

It's not necessarily offensive, just repetitive and tedious. Boring, reading the same things over and over again. The same applies to the MAS threads too. Surely there are other things to discuss? Fair enough, we all get differing things from this forum. :)

[Yeah_Right]

Chem trails eh? I recall hearing one obviously disturbed woman call into Art Bell's show, Coast to Coast AM. And she claimed to have witnessed a aircraft making a black contrail across the sky. She said it looked like it was making an opening in the sky. I am not sure that she believed it was doing exactly that, but she said that she went home and shook in fear for a while. I am not sure what to make of that story, unless she thought that the plane was making a tear in the time/space fabric. Perhaps the government does that to let the aliens through?:rolleyes:

[defaultdotxbe]

wow, this has got to take the cake for nuttiness

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

chemtrails, sylphs, orgone generators...oh my!

http://educate-yourself.org/zsl/sylphstransmutechemtrails06jun04.shtml


i foudn this particularly amusing:
Sylphs are transmuting air into water. Neon gas conversion to water is simple, as only two protons need to be drawn off the nucleus and chemically recombined with the remaining oxygen. The sylphs appear to be able to pull off neutrons, contain them with their magnetic fields, and use the hydrogen atom which is spontaneously generated a split second later when the neutron divides into a proton, electron and subquently emits a neutrino.

apparently the solution to chemtrails is alchemy

[Oldpossum]

Why yes, Jet aircraft do emit chemicals that affect human behaviour, I would have thought it was obvious....

The nasty chemicals are Water and Carbon Dioxide, with a dash of Carbon monoxide, and Nitrous oxides. :)

All of them known to have serious effects on the human psyche, you just try living through the affects of water withdrawal, or see what happens to people who breath too much CO2, CO, or NOx! :D

[WildCat]

wow, this has got to take the cake for nuttiness

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/
I found that site a while ago, it is the shiznit for every wackjob idea you never knew about... :eek:

[Jackalgirl]

If I wanted to get chemicals into people, I couldn't think of a better way than to scatter them in the upper atmosphere.

Oh, wait -- yes, I could. Scatter them down here where the people live.

But the government does that -- it's the Evil Fluoride Conspiracy (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=61096)! Muh hah hah hah hah hah!

[SRW]

http://forums.randi.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=2610&stc=1&d=1154661817
No one has been able to explain this picture

[defaultdotxbe]

whats to explain?

[SRW]

You don't see it?

[defaultdotxbe]

i see a picture of the sun with what may be a contrail or may be a hair on the lens in it

[SRW]

i see a picture of the sun with what may be a contrail or may be a hair on the lens in it

What I don't understand is why the sun didn't completly wash out the contrail. And why people on CT sites find this pic facinating.

[defaultdotxbe]

possibly because the sun is reflecting off the contrail causing it to be nearly as bright as the sun, or it could be that this isnt the original framing, and the actual picture was zoomed out a bit more

http://xbehome.com/screwloosechange/pictures/sun.jpg

notice in this pic clouds near the sun arent washed out either, and in fact appear much brighter than clouds farther away from the sun

[a_unique_person]

Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!!

Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years.

That's why we fear you so much.

[defaultdotxbe]

Finally, a conspiracy that I'm involved in! Woot!!

Seriously, talk about big conspiracies. Every pilot, mechanic and aerospace manufacturer in the entire world is keeping quiet about this (~10 million people) and has been for the last 40 years.
they arent all keeping quiet

http://www.rbnlive.com/mechanic.html#email

he found some extra hoses in the toilet apparently :D

[apathoid]

they arent all keeping quiet

http://www.rbnlive.com/mechanic.html#email

he found some extra hoses in the toilet apparently :D

Oh God! Good find man. Comic genius. I dont make it a point to make fun of paranoid schizophrenics, but damn. I hope this guy isnt really a mechanic, but if he is, I'm sure he gets the crapper tank cards frequently....



I could trace the control wires from the box to the pumps and valves but there were no control circuits coming into the unit. The only wires coming into the unit was a power connection to the aircraft's main power bus.Translation: I have no idea what I'm talking about and trying to sound smart, but failing miserably. Maybe thats why I'm working on crappers.

It was a standard looking avionics control box but it had no markings of any kind.
Thats because most "control boxes" dont have any markings on the front. You have to...gasp...know what the hell it is from experience, or look it up in a maintenance manual.

If you look closely at the wings of a large airplane you will see a set of wiresWires? wrong!

about the size of your finger wrong!

extending from the trailing edge of the wing surfaces
almost not wrong!

I discovered that the pipes from this mystery system lead to every 1 out of 3 of these static discharge wicks. These wicks had been "hollowed out" to allow whatever flows through these pipes to be discharged through the fake wicks.
Hmmm, hollowed out 3/16" wicks which are affixed to a a very solid base which is fastened into surface of the elevators/ailerons/rudder which move indepentantly, wiping out any possible notion of tiny pipes running through to the wicks....What a doofus.

I was called to replace an engine temperature sensor on a plane due to take off in two hours. I finished the job and turned in the paperworkAs if! Thats a sparkchaser's job. Maybe he meant the crapper tank overflow sensors?

The system had 1 large tank and 2 smaller tanks. It was hard to tell in the cramped compartment, but it looked like the large tank could hold about 50 gallonsHmmm, an aircraft mechanic that doesnt know what the engine/cargo fire bottles look like?

When I had a chance to look for this connection under the plane I found it cunningly hidden behind a panel under the panel used to access the waste drain.
You mean they are pumping in evil chemtrail juice through the potable water fill port? I'm never drinking coffee on a plane again.

I began to trace the piping from the pumps. These pipes lead to a network of small pipes that ended in the trailing edges of the wings and horizontal stabilizers.
How did he trace this? With xray glasses or did he defuel and sump the wing tanks, pop open the tank plates and climb in for a peek or was he merely looking at hydraulic lines that run along the aft spar?

"Now you know what happens to mechanics who poke around in things they shouldn't. The next time you start working on systems that are no concern of yours you will lose your job! As it is, I'm feeling generous, I believe that you'll be able to go back to work soon." CLICK.

Translation: In a union shop, you got in somebodys way and it ticked them off so they filed a grievance.

Not the way to work ones self from changing tires and emptying crapper tanks.....

Funny stuff.

[gtc]

You mean they are pumping in evil chemtrail juice through the potable water fill port? I'm never drinking coffee on a plane again.


That explains the coffee.

[Hawk one]

That explains the coffee.
Now -that- would be something that could only be explained by a conspiracy theory: Airline "food".:D

[Johnny Pixels]

Look! Chemtrails at low level!

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9107/014da7.jpg

[Cuddles]

Planes spreading chemicals? Are they sure they weren't looking at crop dusters?

[Johnny Pixels]

Planes spreading chemicals? Are they sure they weren't looking at crop dusters?
Ahh, that's the difference between real life and North by Northwest. In the film, there was a conspiracy. Some people have difficulty telling the two apart though.

[Grundar]

The secret chemical is probably homeopathic in nature and gets diluted in the air to make it stronger. They probably have some crystals and unipolar magnets at the exhausts to increase the effect too. /woo mode off
:)

/Hans

[JollyRoger]

first I would am curios as to what kind of chemical would survive intact from the tank to exhaust be diluted too so many parts per million and still effect what ever it falls on. Assuming it would it have to be inhaled or absorbed through the skin?

second I saw two chem-trails crossing each other a big X in the sky Mulder and Scully were no where to be found shaaaamm on them

and the last time I saw or noticed these chem trails I started to ponderer the structure of the universe. I theorized that it is a large mammalian like cell in a multicellular life form so enormous that we never recognized as such, and if its a life form I wonder would this explain the chaotic and non chaotic nature of things, it was some good stuff I hope to get some more