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defaultdotxbe
7th August 2006, 04:40 PM
a conspiracy of astronomical proportions

http://reformation.org/stationary-earth.html

grayman
7th August 2006, 05:14 PM
If you read more from that site, you'll realize that, the Bible is an accurate scientific text and everything is controled by the Vatican.

defaultdotxbe
7th August 2006, 05:16 PM
but the vatican is controlled by the "black pope" of the jesuits....it all makes sense now!

Blue Monk
7th August 2006, 05:18 PM
When I left the bar last night it was damn sure moving all over the place.

JLam
7th August 2006, 05:30 PM
Is the author familiar with the term "Irony"?

Yeah, I didn't think so either.

Hutch
7th August 2006, 05:43 PM
When I left the bar last night it was damn sure moving all over the place.

Welcome back, Blue Monk, it's been awhile.

Ah yes, goggle "Geocentrism" for some very interesting reading...

Fronzel
7th August 2006, 06:05 PM
I like Reformation.org.

Apparently on top of his anti-vaccine stance, he also hates Amerigo Vespucci,
Albert Einstein, Tycho Brahe, Gallileo, Colombus, Magellan and I'm sure others.

He just rants on and on. I like the crazy that feels like it is typed on the asylum computer.

grayman
7th August 2006, 06:08 PM
He just rants on and on. I like the crazy that feels like it is typed on the asylum computer.

As I read his stuff I was picturing a room lined with aluminum foil to keep out the thought waves.

Upchurch
7th August 2006, 06:11 PM
http://reformation.org/stationary-earth.html

There is no justification at all from what we observe to arbitrarily assume the stars to be fixed and the earth rotating. The beauty of geocentricity is that what you see is what you get! It is a simple and readily understandable scenario for those who are willing to believe what their eyes tell them, and make the mental transition back to the instinctive reference frame of a stationary earth.
I can remember fondly when I was taught in astronomy class that the stars are fixed.

Plus, I can't wait to read further and see his simple and readily understandable calcualtions that describe the motion of the stars and planets around the Earth. That idiot Galileo couldn't figure out something tht his eyes were telling him.

defaultdotxbe
7th August 2006, 06:15 PM
I like Reformation.org.

Apparently on top of his anti-vaccine stance, he also hates Amerigo Vespucci,
Albert Einstein, Tycho Brahe, Gallileo, Colombus, Magellan and I'm sure others.

He just rants on and on. I like the crazy that feels like it is typed on the asylum computer.
apparently he likes tycho brahe (http://reformation.org/tycho-brahe.html) because he has the most complicated solar system model (all teh planets except earth orbit the sun, and the sun orbits earth)

Cylinder
7th August 2006, 06:15 PM
Many people consider the Encyclopedia Britannica the FINAL AUTHORITY on all scientific matters.

I'm contacting my attorney. Obviously, I am owed a tuition reimbursement from the UofA and no small amount of pain and suffering damages from a particularly sadistic organic chemistry professor.

Ladewig
7th August 2006, 07:50 PM
Even Copernicus in his book On the revolutions of the heavenly spheres gives the number at about 3.000.000 miles. The rotating earth people stuck a 9 in front of the 3 and with this mathematical sleight of hand we have a sun whose distance from the earth is exaggerated 90 times!!

Math doesn't seem to be his strong suit.

defaultdotxbe
7th August 2006, 08:26 PM
Math doesn't seem to be his strong suit.
i dont think reality is his strong suit

Psi Baba
9th August 2006, 08:23 AM
I like how he just assumes that every Focault's Pendulum in the world is rigged (many science centers and planetariums have them). It doesn't seem to have occured to him to build his own and see for himself.

Upchurch
9th August 2006, 08:37 AM
I like how he just assumes that every Focault's Pendulum in the world is rigged
I found that funny so I hunted out that portion of his website:

By 1851, despite Copernicus, Galileo and Kepler no proof existed of the rotation of the earth.

The Jesuits were getting DESPERATE because without a rotating earth the theory of evolution falls flat on its face.

At that time a Jesuit named Leon Foucault "invented" a contrivance that supposedly PROVED the rotation of the earth.

The Foucault pendulum was just another Jesuit hoax like the Piltdown man. (my emphasis)

Wha....? Evolution is dependant on a rotating Earth?!? Piltdown man was a Jesuit hoax??

My head hurts.

Bronze Dog
9th August 2006, 10:02 AM
I'm rigging all the Foucault pendulums on Earth by manipulating them with my chakra.

-1 x -1 = +1 is a evil and stupid Jesuit lie, too.

sphenisc
9th August 2006, 10:10 AM
Piltdown man was a Jesuit hoax??

My head hurts.

Teilhard de Chardin was a Jesuit who has been considered as a conspirator in the Piltdown hoax.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Teilhard_de_Chardin

Spindrift
9th August 2006, 10:43 AM
[quote]Einstein died in 1955 and was cremated!!

Einstein died in 1955 and was cremated with his ashes thrown on a nearby river. Many people in Europe were claiming to be "fathered" by Dr. Albert so cremation did away with the vital evidence of his DNA. It also ended any hope of prolonging the Einstein myth beyond the tomb by making his grave a pilgrimage site.
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Not sure how this even fits into his rantings but I guess he missed the whole thing about Einstein's brain sitting in some doctor's office for 50 years and how it's still around.

Ladewig
9th August 2006, 10:45 AM
-1 x -1 = +1 is a evil and stupid Jesuit lie, too.


Thanks. I needed a laugh after reading all the depressing things over in the politics forum. Maybe we need a "oldies" forum at JREF where only the classic conspiracies are addressed.

sackett
9th August 2006, 11:17 AM
I emailed him the JREF url and dared him to come over here. Hey, I’ve done dumber things.

I'll_buy_that
9th August 2006, 01:17 PM
does this guy have any credence? With anybody? Thousands of years of scientific study thousands of individuals observing, yet this guy blogging on the internet, knows the truth. :D :D :D :D :D :D

Upchurch
9th August 2006, 01:21 PM
Teilhard de Chardin was a Jesuit who has been considered as a conspirator in the Piltdown hoax.
He was also French, but that does make Piltdown man a French hoax, either.

I'll_buy_that
9th August 2006, 01:28 PM
"Notice how the "scientific" community describes a solar eclipse exactly as they describe a new moon phase of the moon.
Real solar eclipses are very rare and last at the most 10 minutes but with the moon traveling SLOWLY in front of the sun we should get a big solar eclipse every new moon."

he doesn't even understand the basics of the moon phases. how can he think he understands any of the really complicated stuff he denies

Arkan_Wolfshade
9th August 2006, 01:51 PM
I'm rigging all the Foucault pendulums on Earth by manipulating them with my chakra.

-1 x -1 = +1 is a evil and stupid Jesuit lie, too.

Not nearly as blasphemous as sqrt(2).

defaultdotxbe
9th August 2006, 07:49 PM
"Notice how the "scientific" community describes a solar eclipse exactly as they describe a new moon phase of the moon.
Real solar eclipses are very rare and last at the most 10 minutes but with the moon traveling SLOWLY in front of the sun we should get a big solar eclipse every new moon."

he doesn't even understand the basics of the moon phases. how can he think he understands any of the really complicated stuff he denies
yeah, same with the motion of the planets, the ptolmeic and brahe models were dismissed because they couldnt accurately predict the positions of planets over long periods of time (particularly planets "backtracking," which led to some really convoluted modifications to both models) but the copernican model predicts the positions nearly perfectly

Not nearly as blasphemous as sqrt(2).
what about sqrt(-2)

*queue dramatic music*

dun dun DUUUNNNNNN

drfrank
11th August 2006, 08:30 AM
"Notice how the "scientific" community describes a solar eclipse exactly as they describe a new moon phase of the moon.
Real solar eclipses are very rare and last at the most 10 minutes but with the moon traveling SLOWLY in front of the sun we should get a big solar eclipse every new moon."


Which would be true if the orbital planes of the Sun/Earth system and Earth moon system were parallel. Unfortunately, they're not, so it isn't.