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Nero
14th August 2006, 04:08 AM
Saturday afternoon pottering about in the kitchen whilst my toddler was similarly pottering about in the garden, keeping an eye on her just to make sure she was safe. Notice she’s have a “conversation” with the hydrangea, on closer listening she actually seems to be having a conversation with “Granddad”, who obviously lives in the hydrangea bush. Don’t think much of it and carry on with my pottering.

Later on the same day, sitting on the sofa I ask the little one who she was talking to in the garden. “Granddad” she replies pointing to a photo on the sideboard of her maternal Grandfather.

Now this is where the Indigo bit kicks in, the photo she pointed to is a photo of my wife's farther who died approx 8 years ago, 6 years before little one was born. She’s never shown any interest in the photo before, and we’ve never explained to her who the photo was of.

If you where that way inclined then this would demonstrate irrefutable prove that she can commune with ghosts, and has indeed got special powers. I of course do not subscribe to any of that particular BS, but do you think I could get Channel 4 to make a documentary?

Mojo
14th August 2006, 04:20 AM
If you where that way inclined then this would demonstrate irrefutable prove that she can commune with ghosts, and has indeed got special powers. I of course do not subscribe to any of that particular BS, but do you think I could get Channel 4 to make a documentary?Sure. Just don't mention the possibility that you've ever referred to the photo as being of her grandfather within her earshot. Even TV journalists might figure that one out...

CFLarsen
14th August 2006, 04:27 AM
Indigo: The Color of Money (http://www.skepticreport.com/mystics/twyman.htm)

Ersby
14th August 2006, 04:34 AM
It would only be remarkable if you had many different photos of old men on show in your house, only one (or two) of which were of your grandfathers.

richardm
14th August 2006, 04:36 AM
Sure. Just don't mention the possibility that you've ever referred to the photo as being of her grandfather within her earshot. Even TV journalists might figure that one out...

In fact remove the photo and put it - and any others of the grandfather - in a box in your loft. Then when the TV crews come around 'remember' about the photo and show it to the kid: "Grandad!" and fame and wealth will be yours.

Also don't forget that Hydrangeas were always your wife's father's favourite flower, and that the church was decorated with them for his funeral or some other detail. They loves the details, do documentary makers.

Cuddles
14th August 2006, 04:39 AM
Indigo: The Color of Money (http://www.skepticreport.com/mystics/twyman.htm)

I wish we had indigo money. It looks so much prettier than boring brown and grey.

Nero
14th August 2006, 04:39 AM
In fact remove the photo and put it - and any others of the grandfather - in a box in your loft.

Or I could put the child in the same box that Granddad is currently in, or would that be considered cruel?

Mr. Scott
14th August 2006, 05:07 AM
After you get on the air, why don't you come out as having scammed the news crew to make a point about how we should all be more skeptical? Perhaps for a competing network?

Pull a Randi hoax on them and come clean afterwards. Check the video online of Randi's "Carlos" hoax for a great example.

Soapy Sam
14th August 2006, 07:32 AM
I have an indigo fridge.

You would never understand.

richardm
14th August 2006, 07:38 AM
I have an indigo fridge.

Whenever you put your cans of beer in, you say "Indigo"?

Rasmus
14th August 2006, 07:40 AM
Or I could put the child in the same box that Granddad is currently in, or would that be considered cruel?

Yes, yes, it would be cruel!

The man is dead, dammit, have some decency and at least leave him his own coffin! He's lost everything else ...

Azrael 5
14th August 2006, 11:49 AM
Tell em your child lived before as well,go the whole hog.Dammit casually mention you see Auras also.

fuelair
14th August 2006, 03:50 PM
Tell em your child lived before as well,go the whole hog.Dammit casually mention you see Auras also.

If you play her cards right, you might even get a guest shot on Medium.

Soapy Sam
16th August 2006, 12:37 PM
"Indigo, indigo forte lores in aro. Demno lores demar trux seefit sinem, coosan
dux!"- Not Catullus.

Nero
17th August 2006, 09:34 AM
"Indigo, indigo forte lores in aro. Demno lores demar trux seefit sinem, coosan
dux!"- Not Catullus.


It is a long, long time since I studied Latin, whilst I always "enjoyed" Catullus you're going to have to help me out here...........

A stab would be "Indigo indigo by chance lores upon to plow. Demno lores demar ferocious seefit without coosan duke" - I don't think this is quite right

Euromutt
17th August 2006, 11:59 AM
Try reading it phonetically, Nero. Think "forty lorries in a row" and you'll be on the right track.

The version I know is slightly different:
Civile, res ago
Fortibus es in ero
Gnoses mare, Thebe trux
Vatis inem? Causan dux.

Nero
17th August 2006, 02:57 PM
Try reading it phonetically, Nero. Think "forty lorries in a row" and you'll be on the right track.

The version I know is slightly different:
Civile, res ago
Fortibus es in ero
Gnoses mare, Thebe trux
Vatis inem? Causan dux.

Ahh, thanks I think. Nothing like showing off one's cognation in public

lolurigeller
17th August 2006, 11:24 PM
Saturday afternoon pottering about in the kitchen whilst my toddler was similarly pottering about in the garden, keeping an eye on her just to make sure she was safe. Notice she’s have a “conversation” with the hydrangea, on closer listening she actually seems to be having a conversation with “Granddad”, who obviously lives in the hydrangea bush. Don’t think much of it and carry on with my pottering.......

.......I of course do not subscribe to any of that particular BS, but do you think I could get Channel 4 to make a documentary?

Since you didn't decide to investigate properly, because you've already come to conclusion that it is all bull-. There is not information tangible enough to make any sort of worthy case.

For instance, you're just telling us she had a conversation, but exactly what was the conversation about? Did you ask her what she was talking about with 'granddad'? It most likely will be a bunch of rubbish, but then there is always that unknown possibilty she could know something very specific beyond mere circumstance.

A Skeptical Investigation means a willingness to suspend your judgement so that you can follow through despite your views. James Randi does this for the 1 million dollar challenge, there is no excuse for you not to put effort in doing the same.

Nero
16th April 2007, 04:32 AM
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it's my thread so I will anyway.

Same daughter as mentioned above picked out this years winner of the Grand National, so I'm now £100 better off. Power of the Indigo, it can make you rich.

Not gloating or anything.

pchams
16th April 2007, 07:29 AM
Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it's my thread so I will anyway.

Same daughter as mentioned above picked out this years winner of the Grand National, so I'm now £100 better off. Power of the Indigo, it can make you rich.

Not gloating or anything.
So, it's taken you almost a whole year to get another "hit".
I'm convinced... ;)

Lisa Simpson
16th April 2007, 07:33 AM
100 pounds is rich?!?! Damn. You Brits have it easy.

My son made $120 selling junk food at a garage sale this weekend. He's not indigo, however. More of a toad belly pink.

Nero
16th April 2007, 08:35 AM
So, it's taken you almost a whole year to get another "hit".
I'm convinced... ;)

Ahh but you forget that in that time she's almost learnt how to ride a bike, can sometimes eat a whole meal without dropping stuff on the floor and can converse with at least three generations of deceased ancestors.

Isn't amazing how kids grow up?

Nero
16th April 2007, 08:36 AM
100 pounds is rich?!?! Damn. You Brits have it easy.

My son made $120 selling junk food at a garage sale this weekend. He's not indigo, however. More of a toad belly pink.

£100 is rich with the current exchange rate.

strathmeyer
16th April 2007, 01:04 PM
Ahh but you forget that in that time she's almost learnt how to ride a bike, can sometimes eat a whole meal without dropping stuff on the floor and can converse with at least three generations of deceased ancestors.

Isn't amazing how kids grow up?

Amazing! I'd love to read more about this! This is something that really fascinates me and I'd love to learn more. This is the best thing I've read about all day and really provides me with hope for the future.

Can you please provide citations so that I can read more about it?

Nero
16th April 2007, 02:23 PM
Amazing! I'd love to read more about this! This is something that really fascinates me and I'd love to learn more. This is the best thing I've read about all day and really provides me with hope for the future.

With respect to bike riding and eating with out dropping stuff I can only refer you to the usual child rearing manuals, as for cross dead generation communication I can only cite BS.

Sorry to disappoint. But my beautiful Indigo daughter did help me win £100 this weekend.

Soapy Sam
16th April 2007, 08:17 PM
$200 is pretty rich for a toddler. I'm impressed. Now if only I could remember what I meant about the indigo fridge...

Orphia Nay
16th April 2007, 11:16 PM
Woooo, another Indigo Children thread has been resurrected! Cosmic! ;)

Seriously, though, over at Skeptical Community an "Indigo Child" has revived an old thread (http://www.skepticalcommunity.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=8161), and despite initially trying to prove the existence of her spirit guide, she now seems to be doubting what her mother has raised her to believe.

Mick Houlahan
17th April 2007, 12:16 AM
Not really Indigo-related, but here's a teaser from the local Fox affiliate a couple of weeks ago:
"Your kids might be proof of reincarnation. What to look for, and how to handle it, on Fox News Chicago at Nine."
How the talking heads can read this stuff on the air with a straight face I'll never know.

JQH
17th April 2007, 01:51 AM
Not really Indigo-related, but here's a teaser from the local Fox affiliate a couple of weeks ago:
"Your kids might be proof of reincarnation. What to look for, and how to handle it, on Fox News Chicago at Nine."
How the talking heads can read this stuff on the air with a straight face I'll never know.

They just keep their six figure salaries in mind.

JoeTheJuggler
17th April 2007, 06:50 AM
And this is the first and only time you've bought a lottery ticket and let the kid pick the numbers, right? (BTW, you're better off by £100 less all the tickets you've bought including those that didn't pay off.)

As for the original thing: children learn the meanings of most words without having to be taught them explicitly. The fact that you might not remember having referred to the photo as "Grandad" in the kid's presence really doesn't mean anything.

Nero
17th April 2007, 09:07 AM
And this is the first and only time you've bought a lottery ticket and let the kid pick the numbers, right? (BTW, you're better off by £100 less all the tickets you've bought including those that didn't pay off.)

As for the original thing: children learn the meanings of most words without having to be taught them explicitly. The fact that you might not remember having referred to the photo as "Grandad" in the kid's presence really doesn't mean anything.

Just to be clear the Grand National is a horse race, not a lottery, probably the most famous horse race event in the UK. So nope not the first time I've bought a lottery ticket, I don't play the lottery.

Please re-read my initial post, again just to be clear, I do not in any way believe my child is an Indigo. The purpose of my post was entirely tongue-in-cheek, was I too subtle?

Almo
18th April 2007, 09:23 AM
Please re-read my initial post, again just to be clear, I do not in any way believe my child is an Indigo. The purpose of my post was entirely tongue-in-cheek, was I too subtle?

Could be! :)

rwguinn
18th April 2007, 10:21 AM
Just to be clear the Grand National is a horse race, not a lottery, probably the most famous horse race event in the UK. So nope not the first time I've bought a lottery ticket, I don't play the lottery.

Please re-read my initial post, again just to be clear, I do not in any way believe my child is an Indigo. The purpose of my post was entirely tongue-in-cheek, was I too subtle?
Some people cannot recognize subtlety, even when slapped in the face with it.

strathmeyer
18th April 2007, 12:28 PM
Nero, please read other posts of people claiming to be or have Indigo children and let us know which ones are tongue-in-cheek!

delphi_ote
18th April 2007, 07:04 PM
I've been able to point to pictures of my grandfather for going on 22 years now, but nobody's bothered to make a fuss about it. No fair! I'm an Indigo, dammit.

And an Inigo! Ha ha! I am not left handed!

Nero
19th April 2007, 02:35 AM
strathmeyer, okay not particularly toungue-in-cheek, but I do feel this comment from my initial post makes my stand point fairly clear.

I of course do not subscribe to any of that particular BS

The original point I was trying to make, perhaps badly, was that if you take all the random stuff that kids get up to/say it would be pretty damned easy to cheery pick certain events to make it look like something other than coincidence going on

JoeTheJuggler
19th April 2007, 08:05 PM
I admit--I missed the sarcasm--or was overly swayed by subsequent posts. (You sometimes need to wave a flag for me to catch on.)

My bad.

It's not really a defense, but there are plenty of woo posters whose threads begin, "I'm a skeptic but. . . ."

To make it plain: I do NOT put you in that category. Just offering a mostly lame excuse.

Solus
19th April 2007, 08:51 PM
I thought "indigo kid" was just a woo's way of dealing with the fact that their child has some kind of mental disorder. :confused:

MortFurd
20th April 2007, 05:25 AM
I thought "indigo kid" was just a woo's way of dealing with the fact that their child has some kind of mental disorder. :confused:

Nope. (http://www.kryon.com/altindex.html) That's what you might think at first glimpse, but the folks who thought this up are NUTS. The folks on the site at the link claim Kryon is an extraterrestrial "spirit guide" who told them all these things about children and the future and the future evolution of human beings. "Indigo Children" are the next advance in humanity, and parents will need help in dealing with them until all parents and children are "Indigos."

My wife was under the same impression as you are - that "Indigo Children" is some kind of nice expression for children with a particular set of developmental or personal problems. She had attended a meeting where someone was preaching the Indigo crap, but pitched as a parenting aid. She came home all thrilled to have found a new way to deal with our daughter - who is just a lively, head strong kid.

A couple of minutes on the internet turned up the Indigo/Space Aliens connection, and my wife dropped the Indigo crap like a hot rock.

Citizen Deux
7th November 2007, 02:18 PM
There is little a parent will not do for their child. And by extension, nothing they will not attribute to their offspring (providing it is positive and special). As a parent, I am no exception. However, it is the profiteering and misinformation of folks like the criminal Lou Carroll (aka Kryon), anti-vaccination types and others who would have us believe the truly absurd and dangerous.

Our children need our honest appraisal as much as our unconditional love.

sthomson
7th November 2007, 02:59 PM
Since we've revived an Indigo thread...

When I was a teen my grandfather tried to convince me I was some sort of Indigo child. His proof: I played violin from a young age (true, but I played very poorly), and I excelled academically (in other words, only genetic freaks are good in school. Thanks grandpa!)

Edited to add: I think I'm remembering wrong: my granddaddy thought I was "A Child of the New Dream", or something like that.

arthwollipot
7th November 2007, 09:19 PM
Grandad was on the weed, perhaps?

iMaGiNaTioN
8th November 2007, 06:55 AM
I thought "indigo kid" was just a woo's way of dealing with the fact that their child has some kind of mental disorder. :confused:

From wikipedia:

They are often labeled with the psychiatric diagnoses of Attention Deficit with Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD), Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) and also Autism.[4][5]
They are highly sensitive, both emotionally and physically, and most suffer from a low self-esteem.[5][6]
Many have nervous system problems such as excessive anxiety, which is claimed to be linked to their higher vibrational frequency, and are also prone to depression.[6][4]
They often suffer from sleeping problems, such as insomnia, frequent nightmares, night terrors and sleep paralysis.[6]
They are very empathic, and can easily detect or are in tune with the thoughts of others.[7]
They have great intuitive power.[6]
They often have an insatiable curiosity, and love to ask questions as well as questioning everything around them.[6]
They are naturally drawn to matters concerning mysteries, spirituality, the paranormal and the occult.[6]
They oppose unquestioned authority and have a proclivity for generating their own solutions to problems and holding to explanations which are usually contradictory to convention.[8]
They become anti-social when not around other Indigo Children.[8]
They act and feel as with a strong sense of entitlement.[8]
They have a clear sense of self-definition and in knowing who they are.[8]
Most of them feel the need to make a significant difference in the world, and they believe or are fully aware of having a special or high purpose in life.[5][7]
Critics have pointed out that most of these traits are not unique, and are observable in most children.[9]


:rolleyes:

iMaGiNaTioN
8th November 2007, 07:04 AM
clearly this indigo child movement is the result of parents so desperately wanting their children to be special.

even normal, rational human beings can be caught up in child-genius nonsense... everyone of my friends who has kids claims their child is a genius because of stuff they do at an early age.

for example, one story my friend told me was that she was in the bathroom with her child (who, if I remember correctly, was around 9 months old). she said aloud that she couldnt find her hairbrush, and her son crawled out of the bathroom into the kitchen, and picked up her hairbrush that was on the floor, and then brought it to her in the bathroom. "hes a genius!!" she would exclaim, after telling her tale of child heroism.

Yep. But what about all the times he Didn't pull such a feat?