Warns of mind control.

[telepathy]

I would appreciate if James Randi would visit these webpage: http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopic-8297-days0-orderasc-20.html and http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article_submit/paranormal/esp-telepathy/am-i-a-mutant.html

[Big Les]

I'm pretty sure you need to submit your challenge application according to the information on this page: http://www.randi.org/research/index.html.

I'm sure someone else can advise in more detail and perhaps assist you.

[Cuddles]

If you wish to make a claim it is up to you to apply through the extablished route, Randi will not just read articles you've written. You need to focus on one claim - I would recomend projecting thoughts since that is easy to test, assuming you can control what thoughts are sent. You will also need to come up with a strict protocol for testing that will eliminate all possibility of trickery or chance. You can expect this to be vigorously debated and should not be offended if it is implied you are cheating, no-one will accuse you of being a fraud, but any chance of cheating must be eliminated.

It is a good idea to post any proposed protocol here so forum members can check it and propose improvements before you submit an application. Forum members do not represent the JREF, but are likely to ask the same questions.

[Lothian]

I'm pretty sure you need to submit your challenge application according to the information on this page: http://www.randi.org/research/index.html.

I'm sure someone else can advise in more detail and perhaps assist you.Telepathy has already been advised and assisted in great detail in this thread. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=54779)Unfortunately rather than taking that advice he has started a new thread.
Cat pictures anyone ?

[Anacoluthon64]

I would appreciate if James Randi would visit these webpage: ...James Randi, being the busy man he is, is very likely to ignore your request entirely and issue a curt reply to the effect of, "apply or go away." If you are not the person with the supernatural powers, the same will pertain to whosoever is that person. At least here in the forum you have an opportunity to discuss these powers with other members. This, as suggested by others, may provide greater clarity about the nature and extent of such abilities, which in turn can minimise time and resource wastages in protocol establishment and testing procedures.

For example, have these powers been examined and/or witnessed and/or pronounced upon by any independent credible witnesses, such as a doctor, university professor, lawyer, etc.? Such isn't a requirement or proof, of course, but it helps in moving things forward.

'Luthon64

All of which has been made redundant by Lothian's post.

[Attn mods: I think this thread is in the wrong sub-forum]

[Cuddles]

Telepathy has already been advised and assisted in great detail in this thread. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=54779)Unfortunately rather than taking that advice he has started a new thread.
Cat pictures anyone ?

Well spotted.

This is a cat http://eclectech.co.uk/b3ta/sleepycatfruit.gif.html

[Mojo]

Telepathy has already been advised and assisted in great detail in this thread (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=54779). Ah yes, he claims to manifest some guy with a large feature.

[MRC_Hans]

Telepathy has already been advised and assisted in great detail in this thread. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=54779)Unfortunately rather than taking that advice he has started a new thread.
Cat pictures anyone ?I thought I recognized him.

Cats it is.

Or we could start a game of MC.

Hans

[Mojo]

Turnham Green

[Anacoluthon64]

Cats it is.

...

Or we could start a game of MC.Er, please forgive my rather spare acquaintance with the ins and outs of forum metaphor, but would someone care to clarify the above obscurities?

Thanks in advance.

'Luthon64

[Lothian]

Er, please forgive my rather spare acquaintance with the ins and outs of forum metaphor, but would someone care to clarify the above obscurities?

Thanks in advance.

'Luthon64When we get trolls spamming the forum, ignoring advice or not addressing points, rather that encouraging them forum posters often derail the thread with recipies or Photo’s of cats or a game of Mornington Crescent (MC)- Hence Mojo’s 'Turnham Green’ a common Mornington Crescent starting move, which allows experienced players to play beginners off against the East London Line gambit.

[Anacoluthon64]

When we get trolls spamming the forum, ignoring advice or not addressing points, rather that encouraging them forum posters often derail the thread with recipies or Photo’s of cats or a game of Mornington Crescent (MC)- Hence Mojo’s 'Turnham Green’ a common Mornington Crescent starting move, which allows experienced players to play beginners off against the East London Line gambit.Ah, thank you kindly for that - things are now appreciably clearer.

Though feline photos and recipes present no difficulty, I am unfamiliar with "Mornington Crescent," which I will google anon.

'Luthon64

[Miss Whiplash]

I would appreciate if James Randi would visit these webpage: http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopic-8297-days0-orderasc-20.html and http://www.book-of-thoth.com/article_submit/paranormal/esp-telepathy/am-i-a-mutant.html

Oh, dear. I see we have "goffs" this morning.

[Lothian]

Ah, thank you kindly for that - things are now appreciably clearer.

Though feline photos and recipes present no difficulty, I am unfamiliar with "Mornington Crescent," which I will google anon.

'Luthon64You don’t have Mornington Crescent in Zola Gorgon
:eek:.

[Anacoluthon64]

You don’t have Mornington Crescent in Zola Gorgon
:eek:.Alas, no.

But we do have a Cheesy Hollow.

'Luthon64

[richardm]

Turnham Green

Since Anacoluthon64 is unfamiliar with the game, perhaps we could start with something a bit less challenging like, say, Holloway Road - that gives him the option to do a more straightforward Circle Line, or perhaps Circle Line Reversal, which will make it easier for him to get into the game while still being interesting for more experienced players? Just a thought to help out a newbie.

[Mojo]

I dont think Anacoluthon needs the help: Cheesy Hollow is a very impressive response, involving as it does a reverse diagonal in nib.

[Anacoluthon64]

Since Anacoluthon64 is unfamiliar with the game, perhaps we could start with something a bit less challenging like, say, Holloway Road - that gives him the option to do a more straightforward Circle Line, or perhaps Circle Line Reversal, which will make it easier for him to get into the game while still being interesting for more experienced players? Just a thought to help out a newbie.It's very kind of you to offer such, but googling has proved somewhat less fruitful than I'd hoped. There seems to be a surfeit of "rule sets" - and I use those terms and the inverted commas carefully - out there, so I'm not sure just which one applies here.

A more significant impediment is my inadequate familiarity with London's infrastructure. I think a better strategy might be for me to observe, and contribute when I think I can. The nature of any ensuing commentary, i.e. castigating or laudatory, will help me find the right, er, path where necessary.

So please continue where Mojo began.

'Luthon64

[malbui]

Since Anacoluthon64 is unfamiliar with the game, perhaps we could start with something a bit less challenging like, say, Holloway Road - that gives him the option to do a more straightforward Circle Line, or perhaps Circle Line Reversal, which will make it easier for him to get into the game while still being interesting for more experienced players? Just a thought to help out a newbie.Nice thinking. If I now play High Barnet, that's a nice example of the Circle Line Reversal with the Northern Line Switch - old-fashioned, but I like it.

[Mojo]

Are you sure that's allowed after 'Luthon64's reverse diagonal was followed by Holloway Road? Doesn't the Edgware branch come into play here?

[malbui]

It's certainly permitted under the Locarno Amendments of 1929, which is what we usually play to over here in social games. If the mood of this board is that Edgware takes precedence, I'll withdraw my move and replace it with Seven Sisters.

[Mojo]

That definitely brings the Edgware branch into play, so I'm forced to respond with Tooting Bec.

[Anacoluthon64]

But wasn't that move expressly forbidden on Paddington's M-Rule?

'Luthon64

[Mojo]

Not if we're playing the '29 Locarno Amendments with Edgware taking precedence, but I admit it is a pretty fine distinction, and probably only a borderline move.

[telepathy]

James Randi, being the busy man he is, is very likely to ignore your request entirely ....
I know James Randi is busy with uncoverring paranormal fraud, it seems he has already proved all these published paranormal phenomena and famous paranormal power holder are fraud. In this case, I want to know why he is still busy with the issue, don't he think it is waste time and money?
I come here again just with the hope of he will choise some of non-famous claim which might being prevented to be published by somebody.

I'm pretty sure you need to submit your challenge application according to the information on this page: http://www.randi.org/research/index.html....
Yes, I had read it for times. chinese paranormal investigators won't truly investigate my claim, they are worthy cn gov's trust but not worthy your trust.

[MRC_Hans]

That definitely brings the Edgware branch into play, so I'm forced to respond with Tooting Bec.

What is it with Tooting Bec that appeals so much, even to experienced players? .... I suspect it is simply its appealing sound.

Well, you leave me little option, provided we still want to keep the game transparant to spectators, other than risking:

Bermondsey

Hans

[MRC_Hans]

I know James Randi is busy with uncoverring paranormal fraud, it seems he has already proved all these published paranormal phenomena and famous paranormal power holder are fraud. In this case, I want to know why he is still busy with the issue, don't he think it is waste time and money?
I come here again just with the hope of he will choise some of non-famous claim which might being prevented to be published by somebody.


Yes, I had read it for times. chinese paranormal investigators won't truly investigate my claim, they are worthy cn gov's trust but not worthy your trust.Hello! You make a claim. What do you expect Randi, or anybody else, to do? Take your word for it? Come to China and investigate?

What is it you want?

Hans

[The Don]

I feel obliged to inform you that I have been recently working at a major London Underground contractor for the last few weeks. They have access to MC modelling systems you can only dream of and at night play by a set of arcane "lights out" rules.

So here goes...

Ravenscourt Park

[zooloo]

oopps

[zooloo]

ISo here goes...

Ravenscourt Park

I can't believe you did that... Mornington Cresent!

Thank you :D

BTW, Anacoluthon64 the Underground map will help you follow the game. - http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/colourmap.gif

[chillzero]

I know James Randi is busy with uncoverring paranormal fraud, it seems he has already proved all these published paranormal phenomena and famous paranormal power holder are fraud. In this case, I want to know why he is still busy with the issue, don't he think it is waste time and money?
I come here again just with the hope of he will choise some of non-famous claim which might being prevented to be published by somebody.


I am sure he will indeed take an interest in looking into this - if you submit an appropriate claim through the usual channels.

[Anacoluthon64]

I can't believe you did that... Mornington Cresent!

Thank you :DPlease explain this to me, because it looks like a violation of the Hinckley-Bombeck Criterion for Conformal Closures. After The Don played his move, it seemed to me that the two prior moves and the switchback earlier would force a Pullman Stockyard Choke three moves hence, which in turn would necessitate a regroup on Central red, i.e. Grange Hill.

Am I wrong?

'Luthon64

[Mojo]

"Paging Mrs. Trellis...paging Mrs. Trellis..."

[Cuddles]

I can't believe you did that... Mornington Cresent!

Thank you :D

BTW, Anacoluthon64 the Underground map will help you follow the game. - http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/colourmap.gif

Please explain this to me, because it looks like a violation of the Hinckley-Bombeck Criterion for Conformal Closures. After The Don played his move, it seemed to me that the two prior moves and the switchback earlier would force a Pullman Stockyard Choke three moves hence, which in turn would necessitate a regroup on Central red, i.e. Grange Hill.

Am I wrong?

'Luthon64

I would say this is allowed under the Greenwich Revisions of '89, although there is some controvosy whether this should take precidence over the H-B Criterion.

[Anacoluthon64]

I would say this is allowed under the Greenwich Revisions of '89, although there is some controvosy whether this should take precidence over the H-B Criterion.Hmm, okay, I'll take a peek at said Greenwich Revisions. In the meantime, any suggestions on how the precedence controversy might be resolved without ambiguity?

'Luthon64

[MRC_Hans]

That was solved in the Carlton Modification. Unfortunately, that has been considered apocryphical ever since Calton's association with Cholmondly at the 1983 Brisbane tournament was uncovered.

Hans

[Camillus]

Well, there have been a number of attempts to resolve this particular problem, none of them entirely satisfactory. I think the closest we came was in 1938 when Wing Commander Bill "Starkers" Starkweather-Moore published his analysis of the effects various rule variations had on the probability of an unresovable double reverse side shunt developing as a result of H-B coming into play.

Unfortunately Starkers was killed in 1940 before he could complete his follow up work on a really effective solution. Others have tried to work out what he had in mind (in fact the group who produced the Greenwich revisions used his work) but the Wing Commander used a personal shorthand that know one has been able to crack. I know the boys at Bletchley Park, some of whom were MC players of international standing before the war, had a crack but even they could not decipher it.

[sophia8]

Unfortunately Starkers was killed in 1940 before he could complete his follow up work on a really effective solution. Others have tried to work out what he had in mind (in fact the group who produced the Greenwich revisions used his work) but the Wing Commander used a personal shorthand that know one has been able to crack. I know the boys at Bletchley Park, some of whom were MC players of international standing before the war, had a crack but even they could not decipher it.
In that case, I'll play a wild card:
Tufnell Park
My partial decryption of the Starkweather Code, combined with study of the unpublished pages of the Greenwich revisions (written by Col JR "Rabbit" Hutchinson in Farsi) has convinced me that this trumps even Barking!

[The Don]

I can't believe you did that... Mornington Cresent!

Thank you :D

BTW, Anacoluthon64 the Underground map will help you follow the game. - http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/pdfdocs/colourmap.gif
I'm afraid that your eagerness got the better of you, or perhaps you were unaware of three things:

- The Waterloo and City line is closed until later this year
- Regent's Park is closed for refurbishing
- The Jubilee Line Extension has caused the Greenwich Revisions to be reconsidered and Featherstonehaugh's Gambit can no longer be applied retrospectively

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in this case

[Anacoluthon64]

I'm afraid that your eagerness got the better of you, or perhaps you were unaware of three things:

- The Waterloo and City line is closed until later this year
- Regent's Park is closed for refurbishing
- The Jubilee Line Extension has caused the Greenwich Revisions to be reconsidered and Featherstonehaugh's Gambit can no longer be applied retrospectively

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt in this caseOkay, I now see the answer to my earlier question - thank you for clearing that up. The last point also makes obvious why the Central red regroup I suggested before is not workable. On that basis, I agree that sophia8's move is valid, though perhaps a little overeager.

By bit-wise correspondence, as allowed in the Jager-Amwald-Baer session some years ago,

Holloway Road

'Luthon64

[Psi Baba]

Okay, I now see the answer to my earlier question - thank you for clearing that up. The last point also makes obvious why the Central red regroup I suggested before is not workable. On that basis, I agree that sophia8's move is valid, though perhaps a little overeager.

By bit-wise correspondence, as allowed in the Jager-Amwald-Baer session some years ago,

Holloway Road

'Luthon64
Of course you could have played Wapping or Mudchute by applying the Möbius Transition which bypasses every third node, but a move like that is certainly not without risks.

[Hellbound]

Of course you could have played Wapping or Mudchute by applying the Möbius Transition which bypasses every third node, but a move like that is certainly not without risks.

Hmmm, interesting. In the spirit of Mortenhiemer's (in)famous triple cross/double bypass reverse, Known as tyhe "Morty" in his honor, I'll have to play

Queen's Park.

Now, before anyone points out that a Morty relies on Samson's Manuever, which is only allowable under Jakarta rules in the third circle, if you examine closely you'll see that my manuever does not rely on Samson's, but on a modified form of the Westbrook strategy, which (to my knowledge) is allowable under all rulesets.

[opqdan]

I'm not sure how we ended up here, but I love reading this.

Unfortunatly, I always lose when playing Mornington Crescent.

It may possibly be due to my 'mercan status.

[Anacoluthon64]

Unfortunatly, I always lose when playing Mornington Crescent.Presently, we're still at a fairly basic level. Not to worry, it shouldn't be too difficult to follow with a little patience.


Of course you could have played Wapping or Mudchute by applying the Möbius Transition which bypasses every third node, but a move like that is certainly not without risks.Absoloodle, which is why I refrained from doing so. A perhaps less familiar, though even riskier, alternative is carefully preserved in Appendix IV of the Magister Almanack, 17th edition: the croix-et-seraphe constellation.


Now, before anyone points out that a Morty relies on Samson's Manuever, which is only allowable under Jakarta rules in the third circle, if you examine closely you'll see that my manuever does not rely on Samson's, but on a modified form of the Westbrook strategy, which (to my knowledge) is allowable under all rulesets.Yes, it appears that you are correct - the prohibition was unsuccessfully contested using a clause in the rule set that was mistranslated via a faulty Indonesian phrasebook/dictionary. Had you instead named Kilburn Park, the infringement would, of course, have been both overt and irreparable.

I propose that we retain some simplicity for opqdan's sake without lapsing into complete triviality. Perhaps an ally would like to take the lead with a Gunnerson's Modified Tramlink Strike? This would give greater flexibility for subsequent players to use, for example, Conchoidal Reflex Strategy or Inner Square Emulation.

'Luthon64

[Bradk3]

Okay, I'll jump in here.

My Mornington Crescent's a bit rusty, but I think we've worked ourselves into (feel free to correct my termonology here) the classic Riecrest Quandary resulting (I suspect) from Huntsman's troublesome move to Queen's Park.

I don't think 'Luthon's suggestion of the Conchoidal Reflex Strategy would be advisable at this point, although someone may need to consider the Inner Square Emulation, with some modifications.

For now, assuming we're playing under straight rules (as no one has said otherwise, I'll assume the Chiltsburg revision of '43 has NOT been invoked), the only reasonable move I see would be Hendon. Or is this not allowed?

I'll try to dig up my old rules book before making any further moves.

[Hellbound]

Not only is Hendon allowed, but an excellent move, I think all will agree!

If you had taken the obvious move, to Whitecastle, you might as well have handed me Mornington Crescent on a platter.

Well played...rusty my a$$ ;)

You've also effectively tied my options; Eating Common is out due to the fact that the key is not in play, and St. James Park would only be valid under the Welsey Modification from '72. Which leaves me no choice but:

Vauxhall

[MRC_Hans]

Eeeew! I was preparing for Hendon. More ironically, that is a trip I won't have time for later this month. However, since Jakarta is also invoked, and I happen to have a double six, I can make a switchback and call

Whitehall

... Not that I am sure it will do me any good with the present diagonal configuration :rolleyes:

Hans

[KingMerv00]

I've never played before. I'm sure I'd make a fool of myself. I've been reading the '86 St. John's Wood revision and I still don't know why you can't move from Bayswater to Knightsbridge.

[Bradk3]

Not only is Hendon allowed, but an excellent move, I think all will agree!
Thank you. I'm glad I haven't completely lost my touch.

If you had taken the obvious move, to Whitecastle, you might as well have handed me Mornington Crescent on a platter.
Heh. I'm not that rusty. :cool:

Now, that move to Whitehall was troublesome. Excellent move, but troublesome. I should have noted MRC_Hans' double-six and regressed to Bermondsey. I'll call Heathway here. Risky, I realize, but with Bonds Creek and Kingsbury arranged in the block and Fairlop on the winch, the only other real option (ignoring East Putney in this case, for obvious reasons) is Cockfosters.

And I think we can all agree that Cockfosters would be a bad idea in this run.

[Bradk3]

I've never played before. I'm sure I'd make a fool of myself. I've been reading the '86 St. John's Wood revision and I still don't know why you can't move from Bayswater to Knightsbridge.
Someone more knowledgable than I will have to give a full answer, but doesn't that have to do with the Crowley Dictum? Or does Jakarta supercede?

[RayChi]

Wouldn't Finchley Road and Frognal have been a safer option, given the current lunar calendar? Or are we not playing with that set up at present? I have to admit, I'm never quite confident with it.

[zooloo]

I played Mornington Cresent because High Barnet had already been played.

I know it's a bit of a sly move but both of my parents were born in Limehouse so they're proper cockneys and that's how they taught me to play - though my maternal uncle always played using the 1948 edition of the A to Z so would certainly agree with those who didn't like my move.

For those of you who didn't like it... Harrow-on-theHill!!! Get out of that without switching :D

zoo

[Hellbound]

Someone more knowledgable than I will have to give a full answer, but doesn't that have to do with the Crowley Dictum? Or does Jakarta supercede?

Actually, it's not always forbidden, and touches on most of the issues being discussed. Suffice it to say, the times it is allowed are exceedingly rare, requiring a coincidence of Jakarta, Crowley, and the Wood revision, as well as the Nottingham Accord from '01. I believe it's only been a valid move once in the history of the game, as far as can be verified.

That said, I see I have to deal with Harrow. An interesting choice. However, a switch is not absolutely required, thanks to the Liverpool Convention ruling in '93. And thus, I give you

Baker Street

[zooloo]

Oh Huntsman!

I am really impressed, Baker Street is a gem.

There was I thinking I was being smart, :(

I'm not going to make a move because it'd be MC in 2 whatever I do. Obviously I was rather banking on the switch.

Simply brilliant.

[politas]

I think you're forgetting the Frencham Accord from '32. Using a left-handed widdershins crossover, it's easy to escape the baker Street trap with

Kew Gardens

[Bradk3]

I don't believe you can reference the Frencham Accord in this game, as we began with a call to Turnham Green, thus forcing us to use the Reductionist Variant of straight rules Mornington Crescent.

Although, considering the reverse switch early on in the game and the fact that the play so far seems to be following the St. Pertew style (I am prepared to argue this point, although I feel it is fairly apparent), I would be willing to accede your use of Kew Gardens in light of the decision made in Dagney '84, which, unfortunately, places you in a bit of a snip there.

[zooloo]

I think you're forgetting the Frencham Accord from '32. Using a left-handed widdershins crossover, it's easy to escape the baker Street trap with

Kew Gardens

Isn't that in Nib? Seven Sisters already used and Huntsman invoked the Liverpool Convention ruling.

I agree with Bradk3 about the Frencham Accord, see you should be playing by proper cockney rules :)

zoo

PS The more I study Huntsman's move the more impressed I am - have we witnessed the birth of "Huntsman's Snip"? A devilish move. Brilliant in it's simplicity

[politas]

I believe it was settled by the Durham convention in '96 that the restrictions in the Reductionist Variant do not apply when playing in the Southern Hemisphere. I'm in Australia.

[zooloo]

I believe it was settled by the Durham convention in '96 that the restrictions in the Reductionist Variant do not apply when playing in the Southern Hemisphere. I'm in Australia.

Fair point but... isn't Kew handing it to Huntsman on a plate?

Huntsman moved without switching and Cockfosters was wisely avoided. So unless some amateur goes to the East, unlikely in my opinion, the diagonal cannot be put on the left.

So being forced South, as North is obviosly out and there's nowhere West, where would that leave you?

zoo

[Bradk3]

I believe it was settled by the Durham convention in '96 that the restrictions in the Reductionist Variant do not apply when playing in the Southern Hemisphere. I'm in Australia.
Ah, I was unaware... erm... mate.

Allowed, but I have to second zooloo's reservations. You may wish to reconsider.

[Loss Leader]

I stand in utter amazement at the ability of the British to, with more panache and charm than any other people in the world, say absolutely nothing.

BTW, we have Hugh Laurie over here now and it would be no great hardship on the American side if we were to find him suddenly not to be. Sarah Alexander popped up on an otherwise unremarkable sit-com and Ricky Gervais wrote an episode of The Simpsons, didn't he? There is now a general worry in some quarters of an all around Post-Bean infestation. And, while the Pythons should always consider themselves quite welcome (with the exception of Graham who makes a rather poor houseguest what with his being dead and all) we would be very glad to have the others not. Except for Jenny Agutter for obvious reasons.

[zooloo]

I stand in utter amazement at the ability of the British to, with more panache and charm than any other people in the world, say absolutely nothing.


The reason we're saying absolutely nothing is because we can't though I wish we could. Huntsman has us kippered.

Kew was a very good move but Huntsman's Snip is better.

zoo

PS. Hugh Laurie.. why do you think we exported him.

[politas]

So being forced South, as North is obviosly out and there's nowhere West, where would that leave you?

Now, that would be giving the game away. Let's just say that what may appear to be an obvious winning strategy can be turned about through careful study of a certain Welsh cobbler's tactical opus, Hounslow to Cockfosters: Stops to Victory.

I may have said too much already.

[Hellbound]

Now, that would be giving the game away. Let's just say that what may appear to be an obvious winning strategy can be turned about through careful study of a certain Welsh cobbler's tactical opus, Hounslow to Cockfosters: Stops to Victory.

I may have said too much already.

Ah, it seems my game may be up!

It was precisely that learned tome which gave me the idea for Baker Street. I was hoping it was obscure enough not to have been read by other players.

Apparently, that hope is no longer. Seems I may have given over my advantage. Of course, you'll notice, the proposed solution from that text would leave neither of us in a winning position, and likely will place the next one to move in a highly stategic state, one that is perfect for either Johnson's Gambit or the Anderson's Double-Reverse.

[MRC_Hans]

I'm sorry, but you know us Scandinavians, subtlety is not our strongest side, at least relatively not so in the company of Englishmen, so I'll simply call

Barbican

and leave it to y'all to ponder the details and implications.

Hans

[zooloo]

Does Sven's Conundrum apply automatically or does it have to be declared first?

If the latter then I am afraid I'll have to resign :( as I could only play Wood Green, and that would be silly.

[Anacoluthon64]

Does Sven's Conundrum apply automatically or does it have to be declared first?Yes to the first, no to the second - I draw your attention to Selbourne's analysis of 1953, which shows that such a declaration is self-defeating. This curious finding was later verified in the early 70s by means of a modified Undirected Annealing Algorithm developed by Gabinsky et al. to facilitate these types of stochastic modelling.


... I'll simply call

Barbican

and leave it to y'all to ponder the details and implications.I'm surprised that no-one has seen it yet: the topology is now especially amenable to a Shuck-and-Toss manoeuvre, what with the Jubilee Line being free at all points North of the Thames. It would be silly not to move

Swiss Cottage

:p No swearing, please!

'Luthon64

[Mojo]

I think I can see what you're up to here, but if the Jubilee line is only free North of the Thames, I should be able to block the second phase of your Shuck-and-Toss with

Chalfont & Latimer

[brettDbass]

I think I can see what you're up to here, but if the Jubilee line is only free North of the Thames, I should be able to block the second phase of your Shuck-and-Toss with

Chalfont & Latimer
Oh yeah?
You all think you're so clever with your modern side-swipe trident gambits and cross-take loop shuffles, but you can never beat the good, old fashioned moves.

Willesden Junction

[Hellbound]

Hmmm, Willesden Junction.

Of course, you realize that with a double-switch reverse, this allows me to bypass the blockage of Jubilee in the South, as well as take advantage of connections with the National Rail system (via the Amalgamated Accords of Bristol, 1977). Thus I play

Kennington

as well as gain access to the key, and put the transit strike into the fifth inning, thus closing the London Bridge station and all routes through it.

:D

[Meffy]

Following so closely on the heels of Barbican, I'd have gone with Kencant. But I suppose you classicists reject the Amsterdam Protocols of 1814, so there I shan't venture.

[Anacoluthon64]

Thus I play

KenningtonHuntsman and Mojo, I daresay my Shuck-and-Toss is now in tatters. Meffy's mention of the 1814 Amsterdam Protocols prompted me to consult my copy of van Eyck's Of Tulips and Trains (De Tulpen en Treine), and, sure enough, there it was at the bottom of p. 173 (1927 Huismerk reprint): the Accord of de Vries.

Based thereon, I give you

Holland Park

[brettDbass]

After Huntsmans move of Kennington My initial thoughts were as outlined in the Chaucerian Waxing Moon proposal: avoidance of the Hampstead loop should have been the main focus. London Bridge is a red haddock.

Of course, after seeing the Holland Park manoeuvre, my pincer on the bridges is rendered useless, according to Armstrong's Speech. Curse you, 'luthon!

Somewhat compromised, I feel some strength may be recovered in my position by declaring

Belsize Park

[zooloo]

Huntsman's Snip has really caused me a lot of trouble here. Luckily I borrowed a copy of Hounslow to Cockfosters: Stops to Victory - excellent book.

Sooooooooo... Edgware Road

If only I could have done a triple Park it would all be mine but no use crying over bolted bridges.

Are ther professional players in this game? If not some of you certainly should be.

[malbui]

Huntsman's Snip has really caused me a lot of trouble here. Luckily I borrowed a copy of Hounslow to Cockfosters: Stops to Victory - excellent book.

Sooooooooo... Edgware Road

If only I could have done a triple Park it would all be mine but no use crying over bolted bridges.

Are ther professional players in this game? If not some of you certainly should be.
I'm a retired International Master and still coach the French U19 squad occasionally. May I suggest...

Wimbledon


I played that in the Cairo Open back in '57 and it still makes me feel nostalgic.

[Stitch]

I'm a retired International Master and still coach the French U19 squad occasionally. May I suggest...

Wimbledon


I played that in the Cairo Open back in '57 and it still makes me feel nostalgic.

I'd suggest Pinner but I think it may backfire on me.

[Anacoluthon64]

I'd suggest Pinner but I think it may backfire on me.No, I think that is defensible, given the existing riverboat alternative that is three-quarters complete, following the defusing of brettDbass' pincer on the bridges. A similar call was made in the very same Cairo match cited by malbui.

'Luthon64

[zooloo]

I'd suggest Pinner but I think it may backfire on me.

MORNINGTON CRESCENT!

ssssssssssssstttttttttttttttttt I'm so hot I burn myself :)

The OFFICIAL riverboat alternative is at 68% complete.

They really should update it though, I think Stitch was right because it is in realty over 75% complete.

I'd usually let it go but my Cockney rules were disallowed earlier :cool:

[malbui]

A similar call was made in the very same Cairo match cited by malbui.
I remember it well. I was young and arrogant and was already planning how to spend the prize money... I completely missed the riverboat. Which, considering we were playing in a floating hotel on the Nile, was somewhat ironic.

Still, at least I didn't repeat the mistake in the '59 World Matchplay in Baden-Baden. But that's another story for another evening.

[Meffy]

To think that I took Anacoulthon et al for Protean Foisters! The line of play clearly puts that to the lie. Okay, so I'm off my game, but will still take on various and sundry at Quidditch. Just try me.

[politas]

Damn, I duck off to a folk concert and get up in the morning to find a triple anapest sideslip has lost me the game! That'll teach me to be more dedicated to the game.

[Loss Leader]

I'll have a try at this. Forgive me if I get this wrong, though, as the whole game is very new to America. We tend to like our contests to be bloody and to end on the same day they start. And I haven't studied quite as many strategy guides as you lot, but I have been trying to keep up with the best-selling American book on the subject: Heathrow to Westminster for Dummies. Based on that:

Reposition to the Harrow Stations - Ruslip to Preston Road, double back North Harrow. That's all three.

Sorry if that was too simplistic.