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TobiasTheViking
17th August 2006, 09:08 PM
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Presentation Title: Autism: Anti-vaxers, Pseudosolutions and the consequences.

Abstract:

The presentation would show:
- How and why anti-vaxers exist.(People want something they can
believe in, someone/thing to blame. People need a cause for the
problem.)
- How and why anti-vaxers believe what they believe.(Trying to take
control of the problem, or in bad cases just wanting profit or
publicity.)
- How and why parents choose to believe anti-vaxers.(Need to do
something personally to remedy the situation.)
- The myth of a cure.(People are desperate for a quick solution)
- How and why people make pseudosolutions.(Same as above, trying to
take control of the world, or profit/publicity)
- How and why parents choose to go with those non solutions.(same as
above, need to do something)

- What the consequnces are.(children are subjected to dangerous, and
sometimes directly harmfull operations, while proper treatment is
diminished, ignored, or becomes obsolete through the harm done by the
"cure")
- Who are to blame.(The anti-vaxer groups, and the media who report
information that is factually, scientificaly and morally wrong. Some
parents are to blame, and some parents are too gullible. It is too
dangerous to simply/solely blame the parents)
- Why they aren't being held accountable.(Both the media, the
anti-vaxers and the willfully ignorant parents.)
- Are there any solutions?

This is important for the JREF mission as it will showcase a specific
case of how harm is done and performed by groups who should, by now,
know better. And who should be held accountable. This will show direct
harm caused by the anti-vaxer groups, and will show how these groups
and the media are, if not directly responsible for the consequences,
atleast accomplices to the consequences. Especially in cases where the
result have been death it is important to show the inherent link.

AV requirements:
Nothing except for PowerPoint required.

Publications/ References:
http://www.autismmyths.com though i haven't updated it enough. i'm bad.
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=59862 <- replies #4, #7

Also, go bid for a date with me, remember, with this there is the possibility that i might present something on sunday at TAM :)
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=61822

TobiasTheViking
20th August 2006, 01:35 AM
well, i didn't expect you to hate it THAT much......


* TobiasTheViking cries in the corner..

33 reads and no replies... *sniff* neither a "sounds good" or a "that part needs improvement"

*sniff*

Hell, not even a "you suck".

:(

You all hates me


whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

RSLancastr
21st August 2006, 02:14 PM
That part needs improvement.

Seriously, good luck with it!

My ex-wife was starting to get into the whole anti-vax thing back when our kids were younger, but luckily they weren't young enough for it to have an imapct on them, as they already had all of their shots.

TobiasTheViking
22nd August 2006, 04:00 PM
Well sure it needs improvement.. it said "atleast 100 words". Not like i'm just gonne do the above.

That isn't intended to be the final version, just, you know, giving them the subject and why it matters, if they accept i will, of course, expand it to actually have content.

Unless by part you mean "anti-vax" and not my piece above. :D

Kochanski
24th August 2006, 01:20 PM
Don't cry, you are good commie and it is a good subject :) It may not be as sexy as other subjects but one that is worth exploring.

Don't take the lack of responses as a negative thing. I don't think many of us know enough on the subject to say much on it.

I definitely will be interested in hearing this paper. I know a few anti-vax woos, they drive me bonkers but I don't have enough info to say much to counter their nonsense.

TobiasTheViking
27th August 2006, 02:23 PM
Don't cry, you are good commie and it is a good subject :) It may not be as sexy as other subjects but one that is worth exploring.

Don't take the lack of responses as a negative thing. I don't think many of us know enough on the subject to say much on it.

I definitely will be interested in hearing this paper. I know a few anti-vax woos, they drive me bonkers but I don't have enough info to say much to counter their nonsense.

hehe, thanks, i'm just complaning so i can get attention ;)

Skeptic Ginger
30th August 2006, 03:34 PM
I would love to hear what the research shows on why people latch on to these beliefs. I'm less interested in hypotheses on why people latch on that then need to be tested.

Is your paper going to examine the research or will it be more speculative as to the reasons and propose hypotheses? I will have to read your links tomorrow, I'm out of time now.

TobiasTheViking
30th August 2006, 03:37 PM
If it gets accepted i will make a hypothesis and check with the research and see what it says. If there is no conclusive research i will try to expand on it myself and it will be more speculative. I, of course, prefer the prior option, there actually being research.

Skeptic Ginger
30th August 2006, 08:18 PM
I think our natural brain organization is a big part of why it occurs and education specifically about evaluating evidence is needed to overcome inborn errors in interpreting patterns.

But I also wonder if there aren't certain personality types that are more susceptible and less able to recognize why personal experience is not sufficient to draw conclusions. It might be something genetic or something that occurs at a critical time in development or most likely a combination of both.

I would be interested if you find any studies that have looked at the characteristics of people who adopt inaccurate vaccine information as true. I think that is the first place to start. Which sources of information they rely on might also provide some insight.

TobiasTheViking
31st August 2006, 04:11 AM
that would indeed be interesting, i do not know of any research in that area. And i don't think it would be specific to anti-vaxers, but it would be very interesting.

Skeptic Ginger
31st August 2006, 01:45 PM
It wouldn't have to be specific to them. It would just need to be more prevalent than in a control group of vaxers. But you're right in that there probably isn't specific anti-vaxer research on this subject.