interesting variation on the "disappearing handkerchief" trick [Archive]

Genesius

21st August 2006, 01:11 PM

I suppose that act is not available for kiddie parties...

I suspect that would depend on any applicable legislation in your area regarding corrupting the morals of a minor, as well as your relationship with the law enforcement authorities responsible for the enforcement of said laws.

Of course, if you reserve front-row seats for the cops they may just turn a blind eye if a few of the folks taking in the show happen to be a mite underage.

;)

MWare

21st August 2006, 01:30 PM

Kind of a one trick pony though isn't she?

Genesius

21st August 2006, 01:43 PM

I'm sorry, were you watching the handkerchief?

It's not my problem if you choose to focus on the unimportant parts of the video. . .

:p

rebecca

21st August 2006, 04:58 PM

I'm probably the only person on this forum to note that she does that vanish very, very, VERY poorly. But I guess there's no need for her to really practice . . .

hcmom

21st August 2006, 06:07 PM

What I noticed is that I thought she was a guy until she proved conclusively otherwise...

gnome

21st August 2006, 07:33 PM

I loved it, but I'm a perv that enjoys when something that looks ordinary turns "nsfw".

Genesius

22nd August 2006, 07:18 AM

I'm probably the only person on this forum to note that she does that vanish very, very, VERY poorly. But I guess there's no need for her to really practice . . .

If you were to duplicate her act at TAM (just to show how to do the vanish properly, of course), I'm sure I could scrape up the money to come watch. . .

Dave_46

22nd August 2006, 11:25 AM

What I noticed is that I thought she was a guy until she proved conclusively otherwise...

Agreed

Dave

Tim Van Haitsma

22nd August 2006, 12:36 PM

I remeber hearing a story from a fellow magi that works in Vegas, Something about performing for drunk strippers and a vernet hankercheif vanish in her nether regions and she was amazed. Had no idea were it went.

rebecca

22nd August 2006, 02:59 PM

If you were to duplicate her act at TAM (just to show how to do the vanish properly, of course), I'm sure I could scrape up the money to come watch. . .

I am a competitive bitch . . .

. . . but I once lost four sponge balls that way so I'd rather not chance it.

Bob Klase

22nd August 2006, 08:26 PM

I'm probably the only person on this forum to note that she does that vanish very, very, VERY poorly. But I guess there's no need for her to really practice . . .

I thought she was doing it poorly intentionally- a satire on way too many non-stripping magicians.

Azrael 5

24th August 2006, 10:22 AM

I'm probably the only person on this forum to note that she does that vanish very, very, VERY poorly. But I guess there's no need for her to really practice . . .

What vanish..? :D :D

P.S. No your'e not.

Diamond

28th August 2006, 06:09 AM

What hankerchief? :confused:

neverici_pes

1st September 2006, 02:16 PM

I'm probably the only person on this forum to note that she does that vanish very, very, VERY poorly. But I guess there's no need for her to really practice . . .
Well, she is good enough (and the video has low resolution enough) to fool anybody who don't know the principle of this trick. I have spent an hour checking the video frame by frame and searching the internet, until I found where the handkerchief is. Maybe she is the best illusionist among strippers and the best stripper among illusionist. Which don't exclude the possibility, that she is bad illusionist and/or bad stripper.:wink:

vIQleS

2nd September 2006, 02:42 PM

Am I the only one that can't get this to work?

Azrael 5

2nd September 2006, 06:07 PM

Am I the only one that can't get this to work?

You've tried this ?! ;)

rustypouch

2nd September 2006, 10:35 PM

Meh.

A classic trick. Seriously who hasn't done that vansh?

Unremarkable except for the lack of hips.

skullerello

4th September 2006, 11:32 PM

What I noticed is that I thought she was a guy until she proved conclusively otherwise...

That was my fear as well...

vIQleS

9th September 2006, 09:08 PM

i guess i am the only one that can't see this - what am i doing wrong? it just brings up a black page with 'loading' in the middle, and some controls down the bottom which don't do anything. it just sits there 'loading' forever

LawnOven

10th September 2006, 04:34 AM

maybe you need to update your flash player? Or use a different browser... or both?

Mick Houlahan

6th October 2006, 02:04 PM

I'm probably the only person on this forum to note that she does that vanish very, very, VERY poorly. But I guess there's no need for her to really practice . . .

Her name's Ursula Martinez. It's not the horrible technique that bugs me - it's the mugging. I DO like the music though - that tune provided the background for quite a few "Pink Panther" cartoons.

Zygar

8th October 2006, 06:14 PM

Her name's Ursula Martinez. It's not the horrible technique that bugs me - it's the mugging. I DO like the music though - that tune provided the background for quite a few "Pink Panther" cartoons.

The mugging, the technique, and the fact that she's physically pretty ordinary. But the mugging bugged me most as well.

Garrette

10th October 2006, 08:17 AM

The mugging, the technique, and the fact that she's physically pretty ordinary. But the mugging bugged me most as well.Bed. Crackers.

HeyLeroy

11th October 2006, 05:28 PM

I thought she was doing it poorly intentionally- a satire on way too many non-stripping magicians.

Her name's Ursula Martinez. It's not the horrible technique that bugs me - it's the mugging. I DO like the music though - that tune provided the background for quite a few "Pink Panther" cartoons.

The mugging, the technique, and the fact that she's physically pretty ordinary. But the mugging bugged me most as well.

I'm pretty sure that was from the Montreal Comedy Festival, which would explain the mugging.

thatguywhojuggles

13th October 2006, 04:27 PM

A lot of negative comments about this routine. Yes her technique is bad (with the wiggling of the hands after the disapear), yes we all (amateur magicians and up) know how this trick is done. Yes she only does one trick in the entire routine (over and over.) Yes she doesn't have fake boobs (the ones our society has come to expect in a stripper.)

However, she isn't performing for a room full of geeks like you and me. She is performing live for a fairly big layman audience. They are obviously enjoying the show. She shocks them, embarasses them, makes them laugh, and makes them wonder. Watching this video does no justice to her actual performance. Part of her actual performance is the experience of being in a large audience who are engaged in the show, and sending (hate to use the word) energy up to the performer. You can't feel that watching the video.

What I liked about this routine was the clever mechanism for getting her undressed.

"Sending energy up to the performer" sounds woo, but it's just means physicaly and verbaly responding to a performer and that performer seeing/hearing your responses.

treble_head

15th October 2006, 01:19 AM

meh. the mugging would have bugged me live or not.

Zygar

15th October 2006, 02:43 AM

Yes she doesn't have fake boobs (the ones our society has come to expect in a stripper.)

For the record, fake boobs are worse than no hips.

JPK

16th October 2006, 05:56 PM

Good evening.
I couldn't agree with thatguywhojuggles more. It was a comedy show and the crowd seemed to like it. So what exactly is the problem? Other then the lack of fake boobs. :D
JPK
PS Do you think if someone hired this women to do this act for Randi's next birthday he would critisize her performance?

robinson

30th October 2006, 07:38 PM

damn. the link was removed. seems naked women doing tricks are considered obscene by the JREF.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=2054966#post2054966

I'm glad I saw it before that happened. It was funny.

Soapy Sam

31st October 2006, 05:06 AM

This must be going the rounds. It sounds like it has to be the same file I was emailed by a cow-orker last week. I considered posting it here, but bottled out. It is funny, certainly not erotic. The cuts to the audience were the funniest parts. They were certainly enjoying themselves.

Kevin_Lowe

31st October 2006, 06:31 AM

In defence of the mugging it established for the audience that it was all in fun, which I think is important in an act like that.

I also think the nudity is a clever gimmick because it makes the trick even more mystifying for people who aren't familiar with the method.

Overall I think it's a good act. She's a one trick pony but that's okay if she's only one of a variety of acts in a night.

Genesius

31st October 2006, 06:49 AM

:D

Nothing like a little mod action to revive interest in a thread.

2 1/2 years here, and I finally get modded for something.

<sniff> I really feel like I belong, now. . .

rebecca

31st October 2006, 02:01 PM

Millions of people watched the show Joey and enjoyed it. Doesn't mean it was a good show. The stripper performed the trick very poorly, that's all I was saying - no matter how much the audience liked it, it was still sloppy work. Kind of like that Chris Bliss video where he juggles poorly and everyone applauds. It's just not a good performance, but it doesn't mean that it won't be enough to satisfy a good number of people.

Azrael 5

31st October 2006, 03:07 PM

So anyone got the link lying around? I have seen it but need to check a couple of things.... :D

Azrael 5

31st October 2006, 03:08 PM

firecoins

2nd November 2006, 09:08 AM

robinson

2nd November 2006, 10:06 AM

If you type "disappearing hankie" into Google you can find the video in 2 seconds

rebecca

2nd November 2006, 10:50 AM

She wasn't trying to be a good magician or do a good trick.

Did I say she was? I don't give a crap whether she was trying to be a good magician or not. I just pointed out that she's not.

Dinsdale Piranha

2nd November 2006, 12:04 PM

Is there an instructional DVD for this version?

Will I need to get a sex change to perform it properly?

Will David Blaine do his variation on his next TV special?

Just asking.....

HarryKeogh

2nd November 2006, 12:10 PM

Jeez...even with nudity magic is boring.

Garrette

2nd November 2006, 12:24 PM

Is there an instructional DVD for this version?

Will I need to get a sex change to perform it properly?

Will David Blaine do his variation on his next TV special?

Just asking.....I'd watch if he'd do it underwater, frozen in a giant ice cube, on top of a tall pole.

Garrette

2nd November 2006, 12:26 PM

Jeez...even with nudity magic is boring.There was magic?

---

I think that even with this particular nude person that particular magic was boring.

I can think of a few people I'd pay good money to watch pull rabbits out of hats if they were nude. Even if there were no rabbits. Or hats.

rebecca

2nd November 2006, 12:42 PM

I can think of a few people I'd pay good money to watch pull rabbits out of hats if they were nude. Even if there were no rabbits. Or hats.

Even? Especially. Guy Hollingworth gets my vote.

Garrette

2nd November 2006, 12:54 PM

Even? Especially. Guy Hollingworth gets my vote.I didn't realize we were limiting it to magicians. That makes it tougher on me.

But I'll see your Guy Hollingworth and raise you two Maria Gara's but only if her assistant is nude, too.

Azrael 5

3rd November 2006, 11:55 AM

I didn't realize we were limiting it to magicians. That makes it tougher on me.

But I'll see your Guy Hollingworth and raise you two Maria Gara's but only if her assistant is nude, too.

Raise you with Ginger(of Kalin & Ginger) or Melinda!!

For the unitiated:
http://www.rscotthooper.com/works/melinda_cycle.html

http://www.joebobbriggs.com/vegasguy/images/renohilton.jpg

Garrette

3rd November 2006, 01:44 PM

Raise you with Ginger(of Kalin & Ginger) or Melinda!!

For the unitiated:
http://www.rscotthooper.com/works/melinda_cycle.html

http://www.joebobbriggs.com/vegasguy/images/renohilton.jpg I fold. You win. I want tickets.

Azrael 5

3rd November 2006, 04:54 PM

I fold. You win. I want tickets.

Ha ha ha.:D

rjh01

4th November 2006, 12:47 AM

If you type "disappearing hankie" into Google you can find the video in 2 seconds

Clarification to the above. Do not put in the quotes.

I did not see how it was done, but then I am no good at spotting tricks.

Garrette

6th November 2006, 07:24 AM

I did not see how it was done, but then I am no good at spotting tricks.Hint:

As she stripped it became easier!

Maybe.

firecoins

6th November 2006, 12:22 PM

I guess sehe was all thumbs!;)

Genesius

6th November 2006, 12:24 PM

I guess sehe was all thumbs!;)

No, I'm pretty sure there was more there than just thumbs. . .

:D

Mercutio

6th November 2006, 01:23 PM

She wasn't trying to be a good magician or do a good trick.

Wait...you mean the whole purpose of that act was for her to take her clothes off?

I feel so...used...

Azrael 5

6th November 2006, 03:45 PM

I did not see how it was done, but then I am no good at spotting tricks.

You are joking...right?

Garrette

8th November 2006, 06:18 AM

You are joking...right?It's no big deal. Lots and lots and lots of folks don't know about the TT, and part of her act (which I found quite inventive) was the way she made sure it wasn't spotted.

It's old-hat to magicians, but not to most lay folk.

Azrael 5

8th November 2006, 07:49 AM

I don't recall due to the massive misderection where she "hid" the TT! Im assuming from your post Garrette it was in the usual manner!!

Garrette

8th November 2006, 08:05 AM

I don't recall due to the massive misderection where she "hid" the TT! Im assuming from your post Garrette it was in the usual manner!!That's my guess, and I'm sticking to it, though I would be forced to watch, rewatch, and watch again if it were demonstrated that she did not use the standard method. Might have to start performing nude myself, and nobody wants that.

firecoins

8th November 2006, 08:13 AM

she used the standard method. 100% certain

Garrette

8th November 2006, 08:15 AM

she used the standard method. 100% certainBut I've already stripped in preparation for my show!

firecoins

8th November 2006, 08:18 AM

I guess you won't 100% naked if you wat to do what she did.

Garrette

8th November 2006, 08:31 AM

I guess you won't 100% naked if you wat to do what she did.You, sir, are a pooper of parties.

robinson

8th November 2006, 09:33 AM

Would be far more entertaining if done with stripper outfit, stripper moves, and instead of the full monty, use a skimpy g-string over a shaved receptacle for the final reveal.

Let the imagination do some work. Nobody wants to see a woman pulling something red out of her snatch. :wackylaugh:

rjh01

9th November 2006, 12:14 AM

It's no big deal. Lots and lots and lots of folks don't know about the TT, and part of her act (which I found quite inventive) was the way she made sure it wasn't spotted.

It's old-hat to magicians, but not to most lay folk.

Thanks for defending me. Looks like other people cannot be certain of exactly how she did the trick.

Garrette

9th November 2006, 05:45 AM

Thanks for defending me.No problem. Azrael is a good guy, btw. He just misjudged general public knowledge in this instance, imo.

Looks like other people cannot be certain of exactly how she did the trick.Not really. The magicians on this thread are joking about alternate explanations. There is no doubt to how she does this, and it is common knowledge to even beginning magicians. The method can be used for many effects that appear miraculous.

Jazz Hands! Yeah!

firecoins

17th November 2006, 12:33 PM

Let the imagination do some work. Nobody wants to see a woman pulling something red out of her snatch. :wackylaugh:
I do.:D

HeyLeroy

18th November 2006, 12:04 PM

Anyone remember the TV special where Penn & Teller had their entire audience do this trick at the same time?

Err, without the stripping part, I mean.

Azrael 5

18th November 2006, 05:01 PM

Anyone remember the TV special where Penn & Teller had their entire audience do this trick at the same time?

Err, without the stripping part, I mean.

"And with a little bit of woofle dust..it's GONE!" :D

Don't Try This At Home.
Loved the production of insects along a theme of old magicians tricks too.