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TheBoyPaj
20th August 2006, 03:39 PM
An article in the Times today:

Madonna and her husband Guy Ritchie have been lobbying the government and nuclear industry over a scheme to clean up radioactive waste with a supposedly magical Kabbalah fluid.

The couple, both followers of the Jewish spiritual movement, approached Downing Street, Whitehall and British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL) promoting a "mystical" liquid tested in a Ukranian lake.
"It was like a crank call... the scientific mechanisms were just bollocks, basically," one official said.
But civil servants at the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) and scientists at BNFL were obliged to take the celebrity couple seriously.

I just have to interrupt for a moment to ask "Why?

The lobbying, which took place a few years ago, was part of a campaign by Madonna, who saw it as her mission to rid the world of nuclear waste(bolding mine)

Her mission. Wow. She sounds pretty serious. But then, later on in the article we get this...

A spokesman said "I have spoken to Guy's office and I don't think he is going to be available to talk about this. I don't think it's at the top of the list of things they are working on at the moment."

You see? That's why the world is going to hell in a handbasket. We need our celebrities to stay focused if we're going to end suffering for ever. Hopefully they're working on some other important development. Like stopping global warming by ringing little bells.

Abdul Alhazred
20th August 2006, 04:19 PM
See also: THIS (http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4185&highlight=)

fuelair
20th August 2006, 05:10 PM
HEEELLLLLPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Does Madonna swallow..............

Kabbalah fluid?

calibos
20th August 2006, 05:53 PM
Why are people like this worth mega millions and I'm........well not!

kittynh
20th August 2006, 06:03 PM
Madonna, she needs to get a life. A real life. Any kind of a life.

I grew up in DC. Andy celebrity that showed up to talk to Congress, VIP treatment. I remember the actor from some dumb cop TV show getting to speak about "crime". It was a comedy show "Barney Miller".

Psiload
20th August 2006, 06:28 PM
I can just see it now... Madonna and Guy tying little bits of magical red Kabbalah string around spent nuclear fuel rods to purge them of evil radioactive spirits.

:rolleyes:

Tarot_Is_A_Card_Game!
21st August 2006, 12:56 AM
I think they're being too kind calling this so-called "Kabbalah" a "Jewish spiritual movement"
The Kabbalah Centre has been called a "cult" by many people and this latest episode confirms it.

KingMerv00
22nd August 2006, 07:57 AM
I say we let her do it and make an ass of herself.

CFLarsen
22nd August 2006, 08:05 AM
Too late:

Madonna’s magical nuclear waste cure (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/printFriendly/0,,1-523-2320718-1187,00.html)

The lobbying, which took place a few years ago, was part of a campaign by Madonna, who saw it as her mission to rid the world of nuclear waste. She made this clear in newspaper interviews at the time.

“I mean, one of the biggest problems that exists right now in the world is nuclear waste,” she said. “That’s something I’ve been involved with for a while with a group of scientists — finding a way to neutralise radiation, believe it or not.”

The Kabbalah Centre, which is based in Los Angeles but has branches worldwide, was set up by Philip Berg, a former insurance salesman. One devotee has described how Berg leads chants of “Chernobyl” and the names of other nuclear power plants. Followers believe this helps “heal the problem of nuclear waste”.

Undercover reporters who attended a Kabbalah Centre dinner in London described how Madonna and Ritchie were among guests who turned east towards Chernobyl and began shouting its name.

Some Kabbalah followers are even said to believe that nuclear waste is the cause of the Aids epidemic.

:hb:

Madonna has said: “According to science we aren’t going to have a planet in about 50 years at the rate we’re going with nuclear waste.

“I can write the greatest songs and make the most fabulous films and be a fashion icon and conquer the world, but if there isn’t a world to conquer, what’s the point?

“I’ve just come to a place in my life where I’m trying to really see what the big picture is and where my energy is better spent, and that’s one area I’m really concerned about.”

And, yet:

Madonna was not available to comment because she is on tour in Germany.

A spokeswoman said: “I’ve spoken to Guy’s office and I don’t think he is going to be available to talk about this . . . I don’t think it’s top of the list of things they are working on at the moment.”

Such dedication is hard to come by...

Mojo
22nd August 2006, 08:09 AM
The Kabbalah Centre is believed to have sponsored Oroz, a “23rd-century” research body in New York that heralded a “breakthrough” in neutralising radioactive waste.

Dr Artur Spokojny, the director of Oroz and a Kabbalah follower, is said to have developed a “revolutionary” decontamination agent called Orodyne, which can reportedly also treat gynaecological problems in cows and sheep. :boggled:

Anacoluthon64
22nd August 2006, 08:09 AM
I say we let her do it and make an ass of herself.One that glows in the dark, at that.

'Luthon64

pchams
22nd August 2006, 08:35 AM
As much distaste as I have for this woman and her ilk, is it not possible
that she has an ulterior motive here of just heightening awareness of a real
problem we need to deal with?
Naw....she's probably just a kook.

Kochanski
22nd August 2006, 09:25 AM
Each and every day she gets closer and closer to the characters on Ab Fab and more and more sad.

She just needs to start saying "Sweetie darling" and she is there.

Morrigan
22nd August 2006, 10:47 AM
I can write the greatest songs and make the most fabulous films

:dl:

(Memo to Madonna: artificial soulless bubblegum pop != great music)

kittynh
22nd August 2006, 10:56 AM
fabulous films???

I mean, the songs...I suppose I can kinda give her that (no I can't)

But her FILMS!!!!!!!

Her films are so BAD that they make her songs sound, well ok enough that I don't always change the radio station when one comes on.

Goshawk
22nd August 2006, 11:37 AM
The Oroz/Orodyne website is giving me a "Unable to find server"; however, Googling "Artur Spokojny" turns up this very interesting website. (http://www.wholeheartcenter.com/About.html) Apparently he's a cardiologist who left the Cath Lab at Cornell in 1996 to found his own "alternative" medicine clinic, doing acupuncture and an assortment of alternative herbal therapies, along with (he says) traditional medicine, to treat, well, basically everything that could possibly go wrong with you.
Digestive disorders, Hypertension, Diabetes,
Toxicity - Allergies, Liver and Adrenal exhaustion
Stress Related Chronic fatigue, Auto-immune disorders,
Migraine and other headaches, anxiety and sleep disorders
Whew.

Magical radioactivity detoxifying potions are not mentioned. One wonders how he came to be affiliated with Orodyne.

ETA: Further browsing turns up this (http://www.total-healing.com/Home.html) additional "alternative" healing website, this one run by him alone with no mention of a "team". Same address and phone number as the other clinic. A man of many parts, I guess.

CFLarsen
22nd August 2006, 12:00 PM
Shanghai Surprise (http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom) ranks as the 38th worst movie of all times on IMDB.

wipeout
22nd August 2006, 12:20 PM
Madonna: “I can write the greatest songs and make the most fabulous films and be a fashion icon and conquer the world, but if there isn’t a world to conquer, what’s the point?"

Beware of big music stars who have "co-writers". ;) Big music stars may only use your song if you split the credit -- and therefore half the money -- with them even if they never wrote a single note or word. But it's a choice of half the credit and half the money or all the credit and no money for your song.

Madonna has only every written a handful of songs by herself.

shemp
22nd August 2006, 12:28 PM
I can just see it now... Madonna and Guy tying little bits of magical red Kabbalah string around spent nuclear fuel rods to purge them of evil radioactive spirits.

:rolleyes:

If they would do this without wearing radiation suits, the world would benefit greatly.

Ashles
22nd August 2006, 01:04 PM
Shanghai Surprise (http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom) ranks as the 38th worst movie of all times on IMDB.
And why isn't Swept Away on that list?

Maybe nuclear physicists should start trying to use nuclear waste to dispose of Madonna's films.

But civil servants at the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) and scientists at BNFL were obliged to take the celebrity couple seriously.
I utterly agree with TBP.

Why?

Why, why, why?

I feel the word 'why' is not actually adequate to express the degree to which I question that little statement.

Katana
22nd August 2006, 01:32 PM
See also: THIS (http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=4185&highlight=)

I post on that site, too! Hasn't been too active recently, so I only peek now & again.

Huntster
22nd August 2006, 01:36 PM
....That's why the world is going to hell in a handbasket. We need our celebrities to stay focused if we're going to end suffering for ever. Hopefully they're working on some other important development. Like stopping global warming by ringing little bells.

I need "celebrities" dictating political policy like I need a nuclear detonation in my watch pocket.