Killtowns Science Background: ?

[Bandersnatch]

Well, here's the new thread.

What is your background in science?

High school?

College?

Post-Grad?

[Yoink]

Dude, the guy's like a black-belt in "forensics." Don't make him get his calculator repaired: it could get ugly.

[Dr Richard]

Well, here's the new thread.

What is your background in science?

High school?

College?

Post-Grad?

Bandersnatch, I can really sympathise where you are going with this.

But I think we know the answer, and attacking Killtown directly, although fun, is in essence an ad hom and I think we should avoid it.

Indeed, Killtown, if you are having any problems with math or getting access to research papers, please PM me and I'll see if I can help/access them for you.

All PMs will be confidential. Copy the link to this post; I promise not to divulge the content of any requests for help or information without your permission.

BW

DrR

[Bandersnatch]

Bandersnatch, I can really sympathise where you are going with this.

But I think we know the answer, and attacking Killtown directly, although fun, is in essence an ad hom and I think we should avoid it.

While I understand that it may look like I'm doing this as an insult to Killtown, due to my insistance, that is not at all my purpose. I would like to know the level of understanding Killtown has of math principles, and physics. I would have liked a quick reply on the other thread, but he seggested I start a new one.

[CurtC]

I would like to know the level of understanding Killtown has of math principles, and physics.
All anyone has to do is read the Flight 93 Plume thread to find this out.

I think it's pointless to ask someone's background unless his resume' is being used as lending authority to his position. Everyone is free to make good solid arguments.

[Johnny C.]

Well, here's the new thread.

What is your background in science?

High school?

College?

Post-Grad?

I would guess that he majored in MS Paint.

[Gravy]

This post (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1863811&postcount=1761) pretty much says it all.

He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.

:eye-poppi :jaw-dropp :eek:

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

You know what, as a sign of good faith, I'll throw my credentials in the ring:
* 12 credits short of a BS in Computer Science
* Worked in IT/MIS since '97
* Have been a sysadmin/erp admin/dba since '99

Anything beyond that is self taught.

[Gravy]

Actually, this fact says even more: Killtown has now put 19 respondents to his "plume" thread on "ignore."

[Axiom_Blade]

This post (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1863811&postcount=1761) pretty much says it all.

He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.


WHAT

[valis]

This post (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1863811&postcount=1761) pretty much says it all.

He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.

:eye-poppi :jaw-dropp :eek:

My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it

[Gravy]

My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it
:D

[Meffy]

What a fuel hog!

I'm wondering how someone whose avatar implies that the Yew Ess Gummint ruthlessly silences all dissent manages to... well, to spew so much. Isn't the Bureau of Independent Thought Quashing doing their job keeping him quiet? (Or does kt fall under the auspices of the Rumor Regurgitation Squadron? Hmmm.)

[ponderingturtle]

My car gets fourty rods to the hogs head and that's the way I likes it

So a Rod is 16.5 feet and a hogs head is 84 gallons. So that would mean it goes 660 feet with 84 gallons or 672 gallons per mile. You get worse fule ecconomy that the shuttle crawler as that is only 150 gallons per mile.

What on earth do you drive? THe only reasonable answer I can think of is a walking drag line.

[Meffy]

@ponderingturtle: Isn't it obvious?




A Hummer.

[Hutch]

From a button on my Wall:

1.8026 x 1012 Furlongs per Fortnight; Tis' a good idea, and it doth be the law.

I once calculated that out longhand, so that is about the limit of my math.

Did manage Trig. and Solid Geometry in High School, some scence classes in college (Major was Education, what can I say..)

I'm pretty sure I'm smarter than KT, though...not that that is anything to brag about...

[Meffy]

1.8026 x 1012 Furlongs per Fortnight -- how much [edit: area] does that come to when rendered boustrophedontically? Let us assume 3-inch furrows on 4-foot centers.

[kevin]

So a Rod is 16.5 feet

yes, but is that in survey feet or international feet?

[ponderingturtle]

yes, but is that in survey feet or international feet?

There are more feet than that. I see Sear's, Clarke's, Indian, and Benoit. They only vary in the 3-7 decimal place though.

So they are close enough that it will be well under 1% difference in this. Also remember how much road conditions and driving technique can effect mileage, a much higher percentage.

[Meffy]

Don't neglect Meffy's Metric Foot, which is 1/3 meter exactly. (Meffy's Metric Inch is 25mm exactly.)

[Mr. Skinny]

This post (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1863811&postcount=1761) pretty much says it all.

He added feet to miles per hour to get a result in feet.

:eye-poppi :jaw-dropp :eek:
Gravy, I was just trying to be humorous (as I'm sure you are aware).

It was just so dag-gone stupid, I had to make a bit of a joke.

I've forgotten a lot of my engineering skillz, but, ya know, miles gotta be converted to feet (or vice versa) before you can get an answer. :D

[fuelair]

There are more feet than that. I see Sear's, Clarke's, Indian, and Benoit. They only vary in the 3-7 decimal place though.

So they are close enough that it will be well under 1% difference in this. Also remember how much road conditions and driving technique can effect mileage, a much higher percentage.


How much is that in bare foots?

[rwguinn]

I think it possible he may have stayed at a "Holiday Inn Express" once.
In his parent's room.

[Hutch]

1.8026 x 1012 Furlongs per Fortnight -- how much [edit: area] does that come to when rendered boustrophedontically? Let us assume 3-inch furrows on 4-foot centers.

...about 600 bazillion concrete cores

[Meffy]

That many? I mean... I'm proud that our allies the Bazillions and the the invisible Cretans are helping us in this grand effort.

[fuelair]

That many? I mean... I'm proud that our allies the Bazillions and the the invisible Cretans are helping us in this grand effort.

Isn't that supposed to be invisible cretins?:)

[Cuddles]

I've forgotten a lot of my engineering skillz, but, ya know, miles gotta be converted to feet (or vice versa) before you can get an answer. :D

I thought it was traditional to convert miles into metres per second and then crash them into planets at high speed. :p

[Gravy]

From Killtown's website:

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/879044eda0dad0ba4.jpg


Remember, folks: flight 93 impacted at 580 mph, 850 feet per second, or, as Huntsman put it so well, that largely hollow shell of thin aluminum and fuel was traveling faster than a bullet from a .45. (http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/background.htm)

[Brainache]

I must admit that I have never actually checked his blog. Is this real?
Coz if its real I guess that proves it then.
Can't argue with them forensics.
I hope this means Arkan, Gravy, MacX and everyone else will be apologising to Killtown for ever doubting his credentials.

[Hutch]

I just looked at that picture, Gravy.... :eye-poppi

I think that it should be posted on any site that KT goes to debate at, so that all posters therein can tell what level of expertise they are dealing with.

As for science education, I think KT must have watched 1/2 hour of Nova sometime in his teens..but it didn't take.

[realitybites]

What I love about the CTers(ists) is how quickly they'll dismiss 10,000 pages of the NIST report that contain equations and variations on experiements and computer models and, well... you know. Science stuff.

But they'll take one look at pictures like the one Killtown drew and be all "Inside job!!!!"

PS - KT, next time, if you could toss in a few 'happy little trees' in the background, that'd be sweet.

edit: Ok, so KT didn't draw it. Found it significant enough to put on his site as evidence... but he didn't draw it. Disregard 'happy little trees' comment.

[Big Les]

Holy *****, that's priceless! I wonder if he was making "neeeeeawng-boooom!" sounds whilst drawing it?

[Gravy]

To clarify, I don't believe Killtown drew the picture. I think it was that moron "Spooked" whose done those wonderful Killtown-worthy "experiments."

However, Killtown uses this picture as evidence That filght 93 didn't crash in PA. It's on his site on a page devoted to flight 93 photos, maps, and diagrams.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

I must admit that I have never actually checked his blog. Is this real?
Coz if its real I guess that proves it then.
Can't argue with them forensics.
I hope this means Arkan, Gravy, MacX and everyone else will be apologising to Killtown for ever doubting his credentials.

I'm writing up my mea culpe now. :cool:

[KingMerv00]

From Killtown's website:



http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/879044eda0dad0ba4.jpg


That's adorable. I'm putting that on my fridge.

Edit: "Tail probably sticking out of the ground." Right...don't probabilities require some kind of math?

[Meffy]

Isn't that supposed to be invisible cretins?:)

I don't know -- I can't see them! :-(

[fuelair]

That's adorable. I'm putting that on my fridge.

Edit: "Tail probably sticking out of the ground." Right...don't probabilities require some kind of math?


Not when your brain is an improbability drive stuck in wow-woo gear.

[Bronze Dog]

So, let me get this straight: Either the plane is so utterly fragile that any impact will send pieces flying in every direction, rather than letting it the bulk of it remain together long enough to crash into the Pentagon OR it's so absolutely sturdy and rigid it'll burrow into the ground intact.

Yeah...

[TjW]

It's not either-or, it's both! Like wave-particle duality. It's quantum, man.

[ponderingturtle]

That's adorable. I'm putting that on my fridge.

Edit: "Tail probably sticking out of the ground." Right...don't probabilities require some kind of math?

Yes but they would require understanding things like structural stress and angle of incidence and so forth.