The Secret Life of Sir Knight

[Spindrift]

Anyone else think we have seen the last of Sir Knight?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Anyone else think we have seen the last of Sir Knight?
Possibly. Maybe he'll go back on his medication. Maybe he do a "Curley".

After years reading of sci.skeptic on Usenet, I'd say anything is possible.

[Sir Knight]

Possibly. Maybe he'll go back on his medication. Maybe he do a "Curley".

After years reading of sci.skeptic on Usenet, I'd say anything is possible.


FYI: For those that can't locate a dictionary or some other reference material suitable.

I am out of here = means I am getting off line. I used to say that at work everyday at the end of the day "I am out of here!" No where did I say FOR GOOD, but I have considered that. But after the intelligent phone call I had today I must conclude that my frustration has not been in vain. oh I have still been very disappointed in this group here, as I told one person I was speaking with today, "I feel like I have been thrown into a group of clowns" and he agreed for the most part.

The appeal, if you get a copy of the appeal you will get just a small glimpse of what is going on, enough that should WAKE you up a bit, or so I would hope. I know you won't get transcripts which is where some of the meat is, and even all of this is just smoke to cover the real issues. A bit of advice, just consider this for one moment and you tell me who is crazy.

Nancy Clayton, check out her service record, see if you can find out where she is. She was a Major in the Marines, she was a Sgt. in a California police dept for 16 years. Now ask yourself a question, one which is NOT addressed an any of the press I have seen, I should say SO CALLED PRESS, because most of what they have reported is total frabrication and did not happen.

(A legal point: Someone accused me of being found guilty in a Court of Law. I talked with my attorney today, and he said THIS WAS CIVIL court and there is NO FINDING OF GUILT. So look that up in your online Dictionaries, read em if you got them.)

Now back to the real issue here, Nancy Claytons job in the Marines, and she was a Major, was being a ADJ. to a General, and her job was in planing war games, organizing and directing them. Keep that in mind please for future reference.

Now, here is the thought I want you to consider. A Major in the Marines, a Sgt. in the Police Dept......if I was a CULT leader and was into brainwashing techniques etc, WHY would I go to someone like her? She even had hostage negotiating training. Think people THINK! She investigated me thoroughly before us getting together, or don't you think as a SGT of a Police Dept she couldn't do that? She came out here twice before moving out permanently. Now consider this, IF you get a real copy of her so called complaint, you will see a description about someone WHO ISN'T HER at all. Her complaint is a total frabrication to discredit and impune my integrity. I have tons of proof of her committing prejury along with a lot of other people. She accidently left behind a scrap book about her and her life that was quite damming. She in her complaint she claimed "since I have no religious upbringing in either Judea or Christianity it was easy for him to take advantage of me" < very little paraphrazing if any. Now in her own hand and in her own scrapbook, it talks about her giving sermons and how she was raised in the Catholic church. Now would that be religious upbringing? So her complaint, almost the first line was simply a BIG LIE. The first of many I am afraid to say.

But let me ask you one more question and I am out of her for now.....

If I was crazy and did not have any proof of anything, WHY would I come on here pointing a finger at who I am.......which I did......knowing what is posted out there about me. ALL the BS I know more than you.

You see this thing with her is just a small portion of what is going on, very small, but within it there is a great mystery, an important something, which I was hoping you might explore and prove also with me. But that would take someone who really knows how to do things I can't give you everything on a silver platter, but check out Nancy and see if she would be the kind of person that would resign from the Marines, quit her job at the Police Dept. ALL BEFORE MEETING ME, and move off with a CULT leader? LOL, if I am crazy she it totally out to lunch and then some. Now here is some juicy stuff for you.....YOU GUYS BROUGHT THIS OUT, I didn't start this stuff with her and such, YOU DID. Why did you think I pointed a finger at myself deliberately? THINK!!!! She can't accuse me of doing anything at this point.

But also remember, she quit her job out in CA but they won't hire her back. Why? I know why. See I met with her co-workers out there BEFORE she moved out. She reviewed my business plan for the project in question (and there is the reason for some of this) and they all liked it, in fact she LOVED it. It had nothing to do with world domination, religous cults etc. It did have to do with making a lot of money and creating a world wide charity though. But anyway, her co-workers told me that if I ever did anything wrong to her they would come and see me, and you know what, they weren't kidding, I took them to be very serious. Well they haven't paid me a visit but they won't hire her back. You see, a Police Dept can't hire people they KNOW is guilty of perjury. Bad business practice you know. So now you know some facts, go out there and find them about her and see if what she claims MAKES ANY SENSE WHAT SO EVER?

And I use CAPS so MAYBE you guys might read what I am typing. Otherwise it seems to get lost on you. At least I know you noticed.

Put the puzzle together before coming to any conclusion, examine REAL evidence not newspapers....or fasely posted articles on the Internet.

You see, I wanted real SKEPTICS but so far all I have gotten is SEPTICS.

Once you convince a SKEPTIC you have someone really convinced. LOL

SK

[Dog Town]

Anyone else think we have seen the last of Sir Knight?

Two hours not bad! This is becoming a whodunnit, or didntdunnit, of myhtical proportions!

[Sir Knight]

Two hours not bad! This is becoming a whodunnit, or didntdunnit, of myhtical proportions!


You have not got a clue as of yet. Funny thing about a THREAD, you can have the most beautiful garment ever woven, and it can LOOK good, and complicated, but it can all be undone by grabbing just ONE THREAD AND PULLING.

If someone really found out on their own about what is really going on and how it happened, might might overshadow 9/11. Why I have been told they are linked in ways you can't imagine......now please note: I said I HAVE BEEN TOLD.

But if they can do what they did to me, once you know all the details and such, they can do just about anything and pretty much get away with it.

LOL, go get the REAL INFO for if I just give it to you, you will CLAIM again I was MAKING IT UP This is really stranger than fiction, you will see.

SK

P.S. I am doing a lot of things and won't be on here as much as I have the past couple of days. I really do have a resemblance of a life, not normal but I do have other things to do.
And if I mispell something please forgive me for I just want to say what I want to say and not worry about the spelling that much. Others seem to have no problem with spelling errors so why should I? But if it is a typo that would matter I will do my best to correct it. Thanks!

[Dog Town]

Still With The Caps Thing, I See!!!

[Sir Knight]

Still With The Caps Thing, I See!!!

Yep I love CAPS and this is my thread isn't it? Don't I get to make up the rules? LOL

You guys are slow though, need to speed things up. Now DOG, get your sniffer to working and be a good blood hound! Get her boy, track her down!!!

SK

[Johnny Pixels]

Yep I love CAPS and this is my thread isn't it? Don't I get to make up the rules? LOL

You guys are slow though, need to speed things up. Now DOG, get your sniffer to working and be a good blood hound! Get her boy, track her down!!!

SK

So, how many people are trying to frame/kill you?

[Bandersnatch]

Hello again SK, help a guy out and post the case number. Or PM me it, if you feel it's private. Although it is public record, somewhere. I guess...

[Sir Knight]

So, how many people are trying to frame/kill you?

I truly don't know. There are a lot of players involved. Keep doing substitutes also, game changes at times. I have been able to nullify a lot of it for now. I pick friends or what I might refer to as friends very carefully. I have to be a skeptic also you know. I am not really gullible.
I have been surprised. P.S. Nancy one time told me she had a General in her back pocket. I really didn't know what that meant until lately But some of the things are still coming into the light, things are becoming clearer every day. Not any more comforting mind you, just clearer.

I had a long talk with my attorney today, he is just blown away by all of this, and I do not mean that LITERALLY BLOWN AWAY. Geesh I have to be careful exactly what I say on here.

But one thing, see if any of you can find the Police reports online. I know of some that have literally disappeared. Trust me on this one little fact.

If I gave you the documents you wouldn't believe it, I was hoping you would find it all on your own.

We shall see if any of you are real hackers.

SK

[Psiload]

You have not got a clue as of yet. Funny thing about a THREAD, you can have the most beautiful garment ever woven, and it can LOOK good, and complicated, but it can all be undone by grabbing just ONE THREAD AND PULLING.

If someone really found out on their own about what is really going on and how it happened, might might overshadow 9/11. Why I have been told they are linked in ways you can't imagine......now please note: I said I HAVE BEEN TOLD.

But if they can do what they did to me, once you know all the details and such, they can do just about anything and pretty much get away with it.

LOL, go get the REAL INFO for if I just give it to you, you will CLAIM again I was MAKING IT UP This is really stranger than fiction, you will see.

SK

P.S. I am doing a lot of things and won't be on here as much as I have the past couple of days. I really do have a resemblance of a life, not normal but I do have other things to do.
And if I mispell something please forgive me for I just want to say what I want to say and not worry about the spelling that much. Others seem to have no problem with spelling errors so why should I? But if it is a typo that would matter I will do my best to correct it. Thanks!


Y' know... if you'd put just a mere fraction of the effort into telling us this "REAL INFO", rather than just blabbering on, vehemently insisting that you're not crazy, "they" are out to get you, we're all clueless, etc... we might actually get somewhere.

Look at me... the eternal optimist. :rolleyes:

[Bandersnatch]

But one thing, see if any of you can find the Police reports online. I know of some that have literally disappeared. Trust me on this one little fact.

If I gave you the documents you wouldn't believe it, I was hoping you would find it all on your own.

We shall see if any of you are real hackers.

Well,
A) Do they actually post police reports online?
B) You have hard copies, right? What are the case numbers? The badge numbers? Which police reports?

[gumboot]

Sir Knight,

You are crazy. Get help. For the sake of your self and those around you.

-Andrew

[Bandersnatch]

Note: I just found the Appeal Case number now.

[delphi_ote]

(A legal point: Someone accused me of being found guilty in a Court of Law. I talked with my attorney today, and he said THIS WAS CIVIL court and there is NO FINDING OF GUILT. So look that up in your online Dictionaries, read em if you got them.)
What about the whole 3rd degree felony theft? I guess that was in a civil matter as well? :rolleyes:

[Bandersnatch]

Linky to case #4D05-185 (http://www.4dca.org/Pcas/Oct%202005/10-19-05/4D05-185.pca.pdf)

I don't know what the leagalise means, but I think Per Curiam Affirmed means Appeal denied.

Does it?

[Dog Town]

Too bad it wasn't Apple you had patent issues with. They just coughed up 100million. Doubt they tried to mess with brakelights!

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060823/creative_apple.html?.v=2

[delphi_ote]

Linky to case #4D05-185 (http://www.4dca.org/Pcas/Oct%202005/10-19-05/4D05-185.pca.pdf)

I don't know what the leagalise means, but I think Per Curiam Affirmed means Appeal denied.

Does it?
Sounds like you're right.

A per curiam decision (or opinion) is a ruling handed down by a court with multiple judges in which the decision was made by the court acting as a whole, as opposed to statements made by individual judges. The literal meaning of this legal term is "by the court".

Most decisions on the merits by the Supreme Court (and other appellate courts in the U.S.) take the form of one or more opinions signed by individual justices (and joined in by others). Even when such signed opinions are unanimous, they are not termed "per curiam." "Per curiam" decisions are given that label by the Court itself and tend to be short. Usually, though not always, they deal with issues the Court views as relatively non-controversial.

See, for example, Wood v. Bartholomew, 516 U.S. 1 (1995) and Kimberlin v. Quinlin, 515 U.S. 321(1995). However, per curiam opinions are not necessarily unanimous and sometimes are accompanied by dissenting opinions. E.g., Bush v. Gore, 531 U.S. 98 (2000).

The top appellate courts of most states (e.g., Alabama, Arkansas, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Maryland, Nebraska, Nevada, New Mexico, North Carolina) use the same terminology.

[Gravy]

Linky to case #4D05-185 (http://www.4dca.org/Pcas/Oct%202005/10-19-05/4D05-185.pca.pdf)

I don't know what the leagalise means, but I think Per Curiam Affirmed means Appeal denied.

Does it?
I stopped drinking coffee, so help me out with this (I read delphi's post). If an appeal is affirmed, that means it's granted, doesn't it? Affirmed being the opposite of denied?

Not that I would be surprised if it were otherwise, legalese being what it is. And I would expect to see a justification in a decision that overturns a lower court's ruling, rather than the one-word summary shown.

Man, I'm glad I didn't go to law school.

[delphi_ote]

I stopped drinking coffee, so help me out with this (I read delphi's post). If an appeal is affirmed, that means it's granted, doesn't it? Affirmed being the opposite of denied?

Not that I would be surprised if it were otherwise, legalese being what it is. And I would expect to see a justification in a decision that overturns a lower court's ruling, rather than the one-word summary shown.

Man, I'm glad I didn't go to law school.
My reading of things is that the decision of the first court (per curiam) was right (affirmed). That would mean the previous ruling was cool with the appeals judge, or, in other words, that the appeal was shot down.

I'm no lawyer either. Just trying to carefully parse what I'm reading. Being that we can't actually trust Mr. Wayne to give us the correct information, I trust my gut more than anything he has to say.

ETA I suppose it could also mean that the previous ruling was upheld (affirmed) by the court (per curiam.)

ETA (again) Here's the per curiam part:
GUNTHER, FARMER and TAYLOR, JJ., concur.
So whatever we've got going on here, these three judges agreed. This is like a puzzle...

[Cuddles]

Although it could also mean that the original conviction was affirmed. It does say "not final" in big letters at the bottom, so this doesn't really tell us anything.

[delphi_ote]

Although it could also mean that the original conviction was affirmed. It does say "not final" in big letters at the bottom, so this doesn't really tell us anything.
Everywhere I've read so far tells me that "affirmed" in the context of an appeal means that the previous ruling was upheld.
If the appellate court finds no defect, it "affirms" the judgment
It's not final until something happens. What exactly that something is, I don't understand.

[Cuddles]

Everywhere I've read so far tells me that "affirmed" in the context of an appeal means that the previous ruling was upheld.

That's what I meant. It's past my bedtime.

It's not final until something happens. What exactly that something is, I don't understand.

It says they filed for a rehearing, which would basically be an appeal against the appeal ruling. I can't imagine their cae would suddenly get any better though. Don't you just love the legal system. :)

[Brainster]

I stopped drinking coffee, so help me out with this (I read delphi's post). If an appeal is affirmed, that means it's granted, doesn't it? Affirmed being the opposite of denied?

Not that I would be surprised if it were otherwise, legalese being what it is. And I would expect to see a justification in a decision that overturns a lower court's ruling, rather than the one-word summary shown.

Man, I'm glad I didn't go to law school.

I should probably leave this to the lawyers but my con law memory is that "Affirmed" refers to the lower court's decision, so it would indicate that the appeal was denied.

[delphi_ote]

That's what I meant. It's past my bedtime.
I was trying to affirm your hypothesis. Sorry if my ruling was unclear. :D

[NoZed Avenger]

I stopped drinking coffee, so help me out with this (I read delphi's post). If an appeal is affirmed, that means it's granted, doesn't it? Affirmed being the opposite of denied?

Not that I would be surprised if it were otherwise, legalese being what it is. And I would expect to see a justification in a decision that overturns a lower court's ruling, rather than the one-word summary shown.

Man, I'm glad I didn't go to law school.

The decision of the lower court was affirmed. (Meaning the appeal failed)

[NoZed Avenger]

It says they filed for a rehearing, which would basically be an appeal against the appeal ruling. I can't imagine their cae would suddenly get any better though. Don't you just love the legal system. :)

I don't think it indicates that there was actually a rehearing, just that the appeal does not become final until the time for filing such a motion has passed.

I see nothing to indicate the case went any further.


IOW: PWNED.

[delphi_ote]

I don't think it indicates that there was actually a rehearing, just that the appeal does not become final until the time for filing such a motion has passed.

I see nothing to indicate the case went any further.


IOW: PWNED.
Thanks, NoZed!

This forum kicks so much ass.

[hellaeon]

I don't understand this. It should be obvious to anyone who visits this site that there is little patience here for con artists, cult leaders, and paranoid conspiracy theorists. And yet Sir Knight, bearing hallmarks of all of the above, decided that this would be a good place to seek sympathy.

:confused:

hahaha I have that feeling too. I guess its similar to the ol saying that the chase is more exciting then the kill.

[hellaeon]

SYMPATHY?? Where did I ask for that? I LIKE skeptical people but that I really don't that here for most part I find ignornace, stupidity and other things which I dont' want to go into.

I am a Skeptical person, VERY actually, and I am NOT a con artist, never have been nor ever will be, met a bunch of them though, been victims of them, I guess I should be more skeptical. LOL

You guys are not looking at the big picture at all, I am not even sure you got your eyes open.

Well I am out of here.


Im calling troll on this post myself....

[gumboot]

Bears repeating...


This forum kicks so much ass.

:D

-Andrew

[hellaeon]

I truly don't know. There are a lot of players involved. Keep doing substitutes also, game changes at times. I have been able to nullify a lot of it for now. I pick friends or what I might refer to as friends very carefully. I have to be a skeptic also you know. I am not really gullible.
I have been surprised. P.S. Nancy one time told me she had a General in her back pocket. I really didn't know what that meant until lately But some of the things are still coming into the light, things are becoming clearer every day. Not any more comforting mind you, just clearer.

I had a long talk with my attorney today, he is just blown away by all of this, and I do not mean that LITERALLY BLOWN AWAY. Geesh I have to be careful exactly what I say on here.

But one thing, see if any of you can find the Police reports online. I know of some that have literally disappeared. Trust me on this one little fact.

If I gave you the documents you wouldn't believe it, I was hoping you would find it all on your own.

We shall see if any of you are real hackers.

SK

hahahahaha

cheers for that

[delphi_ote]

I posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating here.
Standard passive aggressive pathological liar tactic: when your negative behavior becomes so obvious someone calls you out on it, immediately put up a smokescreen of vulnerability. Defend yourself by making yourself so pathetic nobody would attack you.

Your torrent of antisocial behavior makes me doubt everything you type, but you obviously need help. Pofessional help. You're not getting any sympathy from me until you see a doctor. Your behavior on this forum has been reprehensible and embarrassing. Whatever friends or family you have living or dead would be ashamed of what you're doing. Stop indulging these unhealthy fantasies and go talk to someone who can help you.

[Sir Knight]

I posted this elsewhere, but it bears repeating here.

YOU ARE TOTALLY NUTS. You can't handle ANY TRUTH it seems.

Here comes the clowns........

[NoZed Avenger]

You can't handle ANY TRUTH it seems.



I think that's spelled TRVTH.

[Bandersnatch]

So...weren't you saying something about the importance of the appeal, SK?

[Gravy]

The decision of the lower court was affirmed. (Meaning the appeal failed)
Thanks!

[Ravenwood]

And as to your Criminal case (possession of stolen property) we see you pleaded "Nolo Contendere". a quick web search turns up the following Legal definition:
Nolo Contendere:
A plea entered by the defendant in response to being charged with a crime. If a defendant pleads nolo contendere, she neither admits nor denies that she committed the crime, but agrees to a punishment (usually a fine or jail time) as if guilty. Usually, this type of plea is entered because it can't be used as an admission of guilt if a civil case is held after the criminal trial.

Pretty interesting straegem for an innocent man...

[Gravy]

This amuses me.

And just because you know of that website how would you conclude that is me? Just because I used Sir Knight? Check out on the internet how many other people use that handle. I find it interesting how easy people draw some serously wrong concusions so quickly. I guess I should have used the link to microsoft then the Bill Gates thing would have been a shoe in if I had used like BG as a name.
Oops!:

The sound of the POP! is the sound of your LOWER TAXES BUBBLE bursting.
Sir Michael

[Regnad Kcin]

Sir Knight:

Please provide evidence in support of your assertion that 9/11 was an "inside job."

[Brainache]

Sir Knight:

Please provide evidence in support of your assertion that 9/11 was an "inside job."

And while you're at it please try to avoid refering to the sordid details of your unhappy love life.

[Sir Knight]

And as to your Criminal case (possession of stolen property) we see you pleaded "Nolo Contendere". a quick web search turns up the following Legal definition:
Nolo Contendere:
A plea entered by the defendant in response to being charged with a crime. If a defendant pleads nolo contendere, she neither admits nor denies that she committed the crime, but agrees to a punishment (usually a fine or jail time) as if guilty. Usually, this type of plea is entered because it can't be used as an admission of guilt if a civil case is held after the criminal trial.

Pretty interesting straegem for an innocent man...

It is the WHY that is important, something you still don't know anything about. There was a hearing right after that, you don't know anything about that do you? you know very little bits and pieces. Still very disappointing very. Find out what the hearing was about right after that, then you will start to undestand WHY I took the plea.

You guys can't really find out what is going on, on this supposedly very small civil or little criminal action. How do you think you could find out anything if it was a very big thing?

And for legal opinions you guys suck big time. First of all that thing I went through does NOT consititue GUILT as the Adjudication was WITHHELD. Look that up. It was a thing of convenience due to some otherthings that was going on, which you have no clue about. You are again making conclusions based on incomplete evidence. I hired an attorney to get the plea revoked, and I was going to win that but for some mysterious reasons they brought in some special guy, my attorney called him the BIG GUN.

Again this is what they wanted you to see. And if you ever learn anything in life, learn to find out WHY, which you still don't know. You are not even aware of what or why I was charged or that they changed the charges. You need to find out how it is possible to be in possesion of stolen things when the things WERE NEVER STOLEN. How is it possible to have a charge when the basis of the charge never existed. To my knowledge I have never seen a stolen property police report.

You guys can't even put the timeline together yet on the two legal actions. One right after the other, a one two punch.

No detectives on here as of yet, NONE!

So much dissapointment. You guys if you only get or barely understand what you are given, how is it you would understand anything out there, because you may be geting spoonfed garbage and you wouldn't know. I told you they set me up. Who's stuff did I steal? What did I do with it? Where did the stuff come from? Well I will give you a clue, I was given the stuff from the State Dept, the guy that BEGGED me to take it was someone who worked for the State Dept. And he was the guy that said to me he was CIA. Now I can't give you the name for various legal reasons, but it should be public record.

You guys really don't understand why I can't give you certain things, there could be legal reprecussions from it, but if you FIND it, then it is a different story.

You guys have not given much thought to why I would bringing this out in the open, if I was guilty what would be my motivation? To embarrass myself even more than I already am? I am not pleased with a lot of things and how they have gone down. I am not making anything up, but you are finding small bits and pieces, you haven't even scratched the surface.

I will give you one clue, someone came up to me before I took the plea, and he told me, and I have witnesses and sworn statements to this effect, "You go in there and take the plea, you just act like you have a gun to your head." I took the plea under duress, I had several attempts on my life and I had damming evidence, they did NOT want me to go to trial. They weren't going to let me go to trial. Because I had witnesses to facts and other things my second attorney told me I could get it revoked due to duress, you see when I took the plea I was told that I had 30 days in which to get it revoked if it was under duress, well it was.

I have told you nothing but the truth, but you won't listen yet anyway, I was setup by several people and you still haven't found the appeal and the original complaint yet I don't think. This is a serious puzzle, it is for real, and I want you to bring things out, and once you get them you will find out why.

I actually tried putting up documents and such on the internet, but I got threats that if I didn't take it down I would be sorry for a variety of reasons. But you guys can bring it out, dust it off for everyone to see, or so I hoped.

I am not guilty of anything. I was framed, I was baited and I was cut up to pieces, but I am still standing and I am not ashamed of who I am or what I have done.

You have no idea how badly I WANT to put things up on the internet, but I can't, not now anyway. That is why I can show these to people in private but not just post them. The meeting went well tonight, we are having another tomorrow. The guy I met with is going to make some calls and see what he can come up with, and if necessary he said, and he didn't want to go there unless it was necessary, he would call in some favors.

There is no question you can ask me that I am not expecting, but for legal reasons I don't want to bring these things out I want you to. I am walking a thin line here, and I am not looking for sympathy. These records, for the most part you need to get is public records, but get the a copy of the actual appeal and you will get a small glimpse of what has been happening to me on both levels, I am serious. It was done by an attorney with all laws quoted etc. But I am not sure they will put that up on the internet among many other things. But if they don't have these things when they should, what does that tell you? And if they can hide simple documents which should be public record on what appears to be a simple civil or simple criminal matter, then what would they hide from the public on something big like what you refer to as 9/11?

I have been considering uploading gsome documents for private viewing, I will need to consider the consequences of that. I would rather you bring them forward from public records if possible. I just had a thought, if I had a PM message with a fax number I could possible fax someone some of the documents. I will consider that. You see I have this stuff, and I do want to share it, but you have no idea what all of this is totally about. I am not sure how high it goes up right now, I really don't. All I know is that some things have happened that shouldn't have. My civil rights and others have been destroyed for the most part. You see it isn't just me, there are other people involved in this and they have suffered because they knew the truth and stayed around to help me.

I am so tired of the lying and crap I have gone through, I want to fight back but it is an uphill battle, and the deck has been stacked against me.

I dont have all the money and resources in the world, if I had, there wouldn't have been so much of this, I would have stood a chance. One attorney asked me once, "how much justice can you afford?" Well when justice is for sale, is it justice?

Be logical for pete's sake, consider everything I have said, not the stupid bits and pieces. You are starting to see there are real things happening in my life, I am not a Walter Mitty but I sure wish I was. Many of you have played this out as if it was a game, it is not at all. It is a matter of life and death and if you did your reasearch as if you life depended on it maybe you would have a different attitude, maybe I don't really know.

I don't have to make up anything, it is all so very real, too real.

I have not lied, I am not lying and I will not lie.

Oh by the way, I was not punished for my plea. Considering the Coral Springs Poice Dept supposedly spent $40,000 on my case, I didn't have to pay back 1 cent. Why do you think that was? They knew I wasn't guilty and I wasn't going to go down the path they choose for me no matter what if I had to pay 1 cent restitution. There was no jail time. The plea more or less was to let me walk if I AGREED to NOT SUE THE CITY. You don't know as much as you think. Dig deeper, find the truth, and who knows maybe you will find out REAL things that matter. For you own sake I hope you do.

And just think not long ago you were thinking I was just making all the stuff up I was talking about, now some of you are bashing me BECAUSE of the REAL STUFF. Make up your minds, pick a side, I have been telling you about real stuff or I am making it up. If you think I am making it up, just go away, leave the people alone that will try to bring out the real truth and facts, for if I put things up and you can't confirm them with public records then what would you think? We need to get this out of the way, the credibity gap before we can go on unto other things. The people that set me up know that, and I know that. That is why this sh_t is there, to stop us from getting to the real meat of the matter.

I am truly sorry if my life is not simple or as sweet as yours, but it is the only life I have and I would like to make it better.

SK

[Sir Knight]

And while you're at it please try to avoid refering to the sordid details of your unhappy love life.

This is my life thread I think. It was given to me and I didn't ask for it.

Please prove to me you have a brain, and then if and when you prove to me you have a brain, please take it elsewhere.

I think there is another thread for 9/11, go and bother them for now.

Read my other post if you must, for if you don't believe me on this stuff the other won't matter anyway, I know that, so I am addressing what I need to address first. Or a better idea, sit back and watch other people do something, keep your mouth/fingers silent, but I am not sure that is possible for you.

So here you go, READ IT PEOPLE:

I will not nor do I have to answer just plain stupid posts. My time is limited so I will choose whom I answer and why I choose to answer is my business. If you don't like it there are plenty of other threads to go to.
I don't need clowns or just general leeches/deadbeats. I don't need insults or general abuse.

Be real or be gone or I will just treat you like you are.

This is NOT a test, this is a real warning.

SK

[Sir Knight]

You need more investigation into that, there is a loophole in the affirmed thing, it isn't what you think it is.

It is actually NOTHING. And it is that NOTHING that is a problem, a wrriten response if I had FAILED would have allowed an appeal to the State Supreme Court, but if they did NOTHING, no written response I cannot appeal. They had to stop me at the 4th, again WHY? If you get a copy of the appeal you will know why. There is a loop hole in the law that if they DO NOT GIVE A WRITTEN OPINION, you CANNOT APPEAL to the State Supreme Court. This situation is currently under review. If and when you get the appeal you will NOT believe your eyes. They couldn't give me a written opinion DENYING my appeal, they just couldn't, for if they did I would win at the State Supreme Court. But honestly you need to get the appeal, that will help you emensely.

I will not make a statement but tell you a question that was posed to me today. "How is it or who is it, that has the power to convince a Judge to do what he did to you AND to get the 4th DCA to do what they did by covering his ass?" According to LAW, in the State of Florida, ONLY the State Supreme Court has the power to make NEW LAWS. Well that isn't what happened in my case. The judge made up a whole new set of laws which went against every concievable Civil Rule of Proceedure (same as Due Process of Law) you can think of, and many you can't, and then he actually broke several laws himself.....and then the 4th DCA ALLOWED him to do it. My lawyer doesn't understand how this is possible, it shouldn't be according to law. Ask yourself who in the government could do such a thing, who has the power or the capability to FIX something along these lines? I am not making this up for one second. My new friend tonight says he isn't sure even the CIA could fix this so well. So who? That my fellow posters is the million dollar question, WHO?

First of all let us establish the FACTS, and then we will try to figure out some other interesting things. If you can't handle the facts, then everything else won't matter.

Real People are in for a REAL ride on this, no pretending no BS, but real important stuff that everyone online should know about. We supposedly live in a FREE society with Civil Rights, once you see actually docments I have you might not be so sure about that.

Please note: Before these two things happened, I did NOT have any Police record what so ever.

Don't bother posting BS because it will be a waste of everyone's time.

SK

[Class]

Who are you talking to?

[Ravenwood]

Actually, the Judiciary branch of the federal govt. does not make new laws. that is the responsibility of the legislative branch...

[gumboot]

My new friend tonight says he isn't sure even the CIA could fix this so well. So who? That my fellow posters is the million dollar question, WHO?


Ooooh! Ooooh! I know this one.


TEH ILLUMINATI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-Andrew

[sleahead]

Actually, the Judiciary branch of the federal govt. does not make new laws. that is the responsibility of the legislative branch...

Exactly. And I'm sure if there was any breach of procedure, that alone would be grounds for a further appeal.

[Johnny Pixels]

[Sir Knight mode] I know an important secret, and it's really important and I really want you all to know all about it.

I'll give you some clues and then you can work it all out yourselves mother[rule8]ers.

I don't need any of you, I'm just trying to give you the truth and you throw it back in my face. I can't believe any of are so stupid as that you can't access police records, you useless bunch of [rule8]s

People tried to kill me for this [rule8] so you better [rule8] believe it's [rule8]ing important, but you're all too [rule8] stupid to understand.

I'm out of here.[/Sir Knight mode]






[Sir Knight mode]

When I say "I'm out of here" I mean I'm going to get a coffee.

[/Sir Knight mode]

[Gravy]

It is the WHY that is important, something you still don't know anything about.Actually, the WHAT needs to come first. If you have something to say, get on with it.

There was a hearing right after that, you don't know anything about that do you? you know very little bits and pieces. Still very disappointing very. Find out what the hearing was about right after that, then you will start to undestand WHY I took the plea.Two days ago you didn't want us to know who you were. Now you're diasppointed that we don't know enough. You are not online with a detective service, SK, although I can imagine you think you are.

You guys can't really find out what is going on, on this supposedly very small civil or little criminal action. How do you think you could find out anything if it was a very big thing?JREF members are, almost to a person, completely clueless about all things great and small.

And for legal opinions you guys suck big time. You do realize that you spend most of your time not explaining what you're talking about, then telling us how misunderstood you are, then blaming us for not understanding you, right?

First of all that thing I went through does NOT consititue GUILT as the Adjudication was WITHHELD. Look that up. It was a thing of convenience due to some otherthings that was going on, which you have no clue about.Is that supposed to be helpful, or comprehensible? Please read it back to yourself and see how it sounds.

You are again making conclusions based on incomplete evidence. So fill us in already. You're the one who wants our help. We didn't come to you with our personal problems, you came to us.

I hired an attorney to get the plea revoked, and I was going to win that but for some mysterious reasons they brought in some special guy, my attorney called him the BIG GUN. What's Howie Howitzer's real name?

Again this is what they wanted you to see. What do you want us to see? Stop whining about what we don't know and show us your evidence.

And if you ever learn anything in life, learn to find out WHY, which you still don't know. You are not even aware of what or why I was charged or that they changed the charges. You say it's crucial for us to know. Then tell us, Mr. Wayne.

You need to find out how it is possible to be in possesion of stolen things when the things WERE NEVER STOLEN. How is it possible to have a charge when the basis of the charge never existed. To my knowledge I have never seen a stolen property police report.I believe the charge was "improper possession" or something like that, relating to the government believing the computers would be used for charitable purposes, rather than for your for-profit business. If that's wrong, tell us why, and back it up with evidence. This is a skeptics forum.

You guys can't even put the timeline together yet on the two legal actions. One right after the other, a one two punch.

No detectives on here as of yet, NONE!Who said there was? If you want a detective, hire one. AFAIK, people only checked up on you because your behavior here has been so completely foolish and dishonest.

So much dissapointment. You have told us many times how disappointed you are with us. Again, this is a skeptics forum. You claim to be looking for a friend. You've come to the wrong place with your ranting nonsense.

You guys if you only get or barely understand what you are given, how is it you would understand anything out there, because you may be geting spoonfed garbage and you wouldn't know. Read that back to yourself.

I told you they set me up.Yes you did. So we should believe you on that basis? You said you value skeptics. Well, here we are. We require proof. If you make a claim here, back it up or don't expect to be taken seriously. Is anything unclear about that?

Who's stuff did I steal? What did I do with it? Misallocation of a charitable donation is punishable by law.

Where did the stuff come from? The State Department. It says so in the court documents.

Well I will give you a clue, I was given the stuff from the State Dept, the guy that BEGGED me to take it was someone who worked for the State Dept. And he was the guy that said to me he was CIA. Now I can't give you the name for various legal reasons, but it should be public record.If his name is a matter of public record, then what legal enjoinder can there be on revealing it? Please do so now, or we'll chalk up another lie to you.

You guys really don't understand why I can't give you certain things, there could be legal reprecussions from it, but if you FIND it, then it is a different story.Why would we look, when you've given us zero reason to believe you?

You guys have not given much thought to why I would bringing this out in the open, if I was guilty what would be my motivation? You didn't bring it out in the open, several board members here discovered it, remember?

To embarrass myself even more than I already am? I am not pleased with a lot of things and how they have gone down. I am not making anything up, but you are finding small bits and pieces, you haven't even scratched the surface.What we've seen just below the surface is very, very unpleasant.

I will give you one clue, someone came up to me before I took the plea, and he told me, and I have witnesses and sworn statements to this effect, "You go in there and take the plea, you just act like you have a gun to your head." Show us the sworn statements. Otherwise we skeptics will chalk up another lie.

I took the plea under duress, I had several attempts on my life and I had damming evidence, they did NOT want me to go to trial. They weren't going to let me go to trial. Because I had witnesses to facts and other things my second attorney told me I could get it revoked due to duress, you see when I took the plea I was told that I had 30 days in which to get it revoked if it was under duress, well it was.And of course you had the plea revoked, right?

I have told you nothing but the truth, but you won't listen yet anyway, I was setup by several people and you still haven't found the appeal and the original complaint yet I don't think. This is a serious puzzle, it is for real, and I want you to bring things out, and once you get them you will find out why. No. If you have something to tell us, then tell us. Your guessing games are extremely tedious.

I actually tried putting up documents and such on the internet, but I got threats that if I didn't take it down I would be sorry for a variety of reasons. But you guys can bring it out, dust it off for everyone to see, or so I hoped.So you want us to face threats for your problems? Gee, with friends like that...

But I'll help you out. PM me with the location of the documents and I will put them online. Okay? I agree to your request. But how would I know what documents you want the public to see? You'll have to tell me. If you do not, I will have no choice to assume that you are lying. I await your PM.

I am not guilty of anything. I was framed, I was baited and I was cut up to pieces, but I am still standing and I am not ashamed of who I am or what I have done.

You have no idea how badly I WANT to put things up on the internet, but I can't, not now anyway. That is why I can show these to people in private but not just post them. Um, you just told us you wanted us to find this information and "dust it off for everyone to see. So which is it? My offer was sincere. Your request apparently wasn't.

There is no question you can ask me that I am not expecting, but for legal reasons I don't want to bring these things out I want you to. Okay, first you said you wanted us to bring it out, then you said you didn't, now you say you do. Here we go again. Tell me where the information is and I will put it online. I promise. Since I don't have a car, no one can mess with my tailights.

What's most bizarre about all this is that you're asking strangers to do this for you. Why not ask your friends? They could easily do this anonymously. What's the deal?

I am walking a thin line here, and I am not looking for sympathy. Yes you are:I am looking for a friend NOT a fight. I am not crazy but sure wish I was.
These records, for the most part you need to get is public records, but get the a copy of the actual appeal and you will get a small glimpse of what has been happening to me on both levels, I am serious. It was done by an attorney with all laws quoted etc. But I am not sure they will put that up on the internet among many other things. But if they don't have these things when they should, what does that tell you? And if they can hide simple documents which should be public record on what appears to be a simple civil or simple criminal matter, then what would they hide from the public on something big like what you refer to as 9/11?
So you want us to act as an unpaid detective service for you and spend our time searching for documents that you don't know exist. That sounds like a good deal. You seem to have a penchant for making generous deals with people.

I have been considering uploading gsome documents for private viewing, I will need to consider the consequences of that. I would rather you bring them forward from public records if possible.Public records for private viewing? Um, that makes no sense. Please try to make sense. As I said, I'll post the documents if you provide them. I will not act as your unpaid detective service, and I doubt that anyone else here will. That's fair, isn't it?

I just had a thought, if I had a PM message with a fax number I could possible fax someone some of the documents. I will consider that. My fax number: 509-561-4724. You've had plenty of time to think about this. If you're going to send something, do it today.

You see I have this stuff, and I do want to share it, but you have no idea what all of this is totally about. We'll have a better idea once you send those documents, so please do so ASAP. Don't worry: I can handle the truth.

I am not sure how high it goes up right now, I really don't. All I know is that some things have happened that shouldn't have. My civil rights and others have been destroyed for the most part. You see it isn't just me, there are other people involved in this and they have suffered because they knew the truth and stayed around to help me. So people who learned the truth and stayed around to help you have suffered because of it? That sucks. And you want us to partake of that banquet?

Well, I'll tell you what: I'm game.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death for Sir Knight's benefit,
I wlll fear no evil: For the JREF Ninjas are with me;
Their skepticism and their katana wit, they comfort me.
They preparest a table before me in the presence of your enemies;
Thou anointest my head with babble until my beer runneth over.
Surely silliness and hangovers shall follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the souse of the bored forever.

So bring it on. I seek to be your worthy champion.

I am so tired of the lying and crap I have gone through, I want to fight back but it is an uphill battle, and the deck has been stacked against me.No longer! JREF Ninja Wave! Arise and prepare for battle! (Sorry. They're not really morning people. I'll make coffee.)

I dont have all the money and resources in the world, if I had, there wouldn't have been so much of this, I would have stood a chance.Hell, you could have bought that Irish island.

One attorney asked me once, "how much justice can you afford?" Well when justice is for sale, is it justice?OJ and Robert Blake would say yes, absolutely. But did you file an ethics complaint against that attorney?

Be logical for pete's sake, consider everything I have said, not the stupid bits and pieces. I do consider all you say. I hope you give me the same consideration. For instance, you made several claims about Loose Change, AA flight 77, the PNAC, etc. You wrote:
I think everyone should review the movie several times and TAKE NOTES. Do research and THINK.I did just that – I THINKED – and wrote a 148-page analysis of the movie. I gave you the link to it. I believe you'll find that no one, anywhere, knows that movie and the truth behind its claims better than I do, including (and especially) its creators. I also gave you considerable resources to answer your questions about the Pentagon attack. Have you bothered to look at them?

You are starting to see there are real things happening in my life, I am not a Walter Mitty but I sure wish I was. Real things happen to everyone. The question is, do the things you describe accurately reflect reality? You have repeatedly said they do. As a critical thinker who has encountered his share of phoney baloney (as well as seeing those court documents which do not exactly inspire confidence), I take nothing you say at face value. We operate on the gold standard here. Only evidence will convince me that you're honest.

Many of you have played this out as if it was a game, it is not at all. You have done nothing to convince us otherwise. Please begin.

It is a matter of life and death and if you did your reasearch as if you life depended on it maybe you would have a different attitude, maybe I don't really know. I don't have to make up anything, it is all so very real, too real. I have not lied, I am not lying and I will not lie.
You'll be held to that statement. Prove it.

Oh by the way, I was not punished for my plea. Considering the Coral Springs Poice Dept supposedly spent $40,000 on my case, I didn't have to pay back 1 cent. Why do you think that was? They knew I wasn't guilty and I wasn't going to go down the path they choose for me no matter what if I had to pay 1 cent restitution. There was no jail time. The plea more or less was to let me walk if I AGREED to NOT SUE THE CITY. You don't know as much as you think. What about the "cult leader" case? That judgment stood, didn't it?

Dig deeper, find the truth, and who knows maybe you will find out REAL things that matter. For you own sake I hope you do.
We are an inquiring bunch in general, and we find out real things that matter every day. That's sorta what this site is about. However, I'm sure you understand that what different people consider vitally important varies a lot. Some people are passionately driven to solve the problem of world hunger. Others are equally passionate about Hummel figurines. "That's the story of, that's the glory of"...us. So, you have your concerns, I have mine. I've said I'm glad to get the information out there for you, but you'll need to provide it. Will you? My experience tells me there is almost no chance of that happening, but I'm willing to be surprised.

And just think not long ago you were thinking I was just making all the stuff up I was talking about, now some of you are bashing me BECAUSE of the REAL STUFF. We have no evidence that the stuff we think you are making up has any bearing on the court cases, or vice-versa. At least I'm glad to see you say that the cases are at least partially real.

Make up your minds, pick a side, I have been telling you about real stuff or I am making it up. If you think I am making it up, just go away, leave the people alone that will try to bring out the real truth and facts, for if I put things up and you can't confirm them with public records then what would you think? We need to get this out of the way, the credibity gap before we can go on unto other things. Agreed. But you said you value skepticism. Yet you ask us to choose sides without having given us any reason to choose your side. If you were somehow able to make that an ultimatum, I feel very confident that not a person here would choose your "side," given what you've told us and the information that's publicly available about you. A skeptic isn't going to pick your side, ever, without proof that you are honest.

The people that set me up know that, and I know that. That is why this sh_t is there, to stop us from getting to the real meat of the matter.No idea what that means.

I am truly sorry if my life is not simple or as sweet as yours, but it is the only life I have and I would like to make it better.
Yep. You've got me pegged. Here's my schedule for today:

8 am: Shake those lazybones Jessica Alba and Anne Hathaway out of bed. Sauna followed by roll in snow imported from Lapland. Invigorating!
9 am: Breakfast with Kevin Bacon.
10 am: Playdate with the corgi puppies in the park.

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11:00-11:15: Gaze upon Henry's wondrous bottom.

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12 noon: Massage, or sex, depending on how frisky I'm feeling.
1:30: Luncheon at the Gowanus Yacht Club.
3-5 pm: Sculpture class.
7 pm: Effortlessly pitch a 2-hit shutout and drive in three runs for the Brooklyn Cyclones. Take a call from Willie Randolph while dining on Nathan's hot dogs and Brooklyn Lager in the owner's box between innings.
10:30 pm: Whirlpool in the limo.
11 pm: Playdate with Lagavulin. Listen to the Hank Jones/Charlie Haden CD "Steal Away"
Midnight: Damn! The girls are asleep already. Make love to self on faux bearskin rug in front of fire.

How light and lovely life is when goons aren't jumping out of bushes at one!

Sir Knight, get over your persecution complex and prove your case, whatever it is. No more endless excuses and rationalizations about why you might or might not deign to reveal your secrets to us. We value clear thinking, direct expression, and hard evidence. Fact fine, babble bad. If you have something to communicate, for Ed's sake get on with it, and be prepared to back every claim with facts, not spooky suggestions.

This is my last shot at trying to get anything substantive out of you, unless you're prepared to dish the straight dope. I hope the next communication from you will be by fax.

–Gravy

[Gravy]

This is my life thread I think. It was given to me and I didn't ask for it.
These threads, all of them, are public discussion threads. Please keep that in mind.

My time is limited so I will choose whom I answer and why I choose to answer is my business.
Yes, you've been limited to 38.42 extremely long-winded posts about yourself per day.

[Belz...]

I am out of here = means I am getting off line. I used to say that at work everyday at the end of the day "I am out of here!" No where did I say FOR GOOD, but I have considered that.

Which was my interpretation as well, though I knew you'd be back.

But after the intelligent phone call I had today I must conclude that my frustration has not been in vain. oh I have still been very disappointed in this group here, as I told one person I was speaking with today,

You mean, you have a public life where people actually know who you are ? Boy! Sure beats running for your life!

"I feel like I have been thrown into a group of clowns" and he agreed for the most part.

Of course. You told the story.

if I was a CULT leader and was into brainwashing techniques etc, WHY would I go to someone like her? She even had hostage negotiating training. Think people THINK!

That last part also assumed that we know what you know, which is, in my book, a fallacy.

She investigated me thoroughly before us getting together, or don't you think as a SGT of a Police Dept she couldn't do that?

There is NOTHING more romantic than digging up dirt on a potential mate.

Her complaint is a total frabrication to discredit and impune my integrity.

Boy, you really ARE important if the entire world is out to get your credibility. Personally, I'd just leave you and be done with it.

I have tons of proof of her committing prejury along with a lot of other people.

I assume you neglected to present this proof in court...

If I was crazy and did not have any proof of anything, WHY would I come on here pointing a finger at who I am.......which I did......knowing what is posted out there about me.

Because you're dying for attention ?

And I use CAPS so MAYBE you guys might read what I am typing. Otherwise it seems to get lost on you. At least I know you noticed.

Couldn't tell the difference. You haven't typed normally since you got here.

[Belz...]

Yep I love CAPS and this is my thread isn't it? Don't I get to make up the rules? LOL

No you don't get to make up the rules lol. The mods lol get lol to lol make lol the lol rules lol.

[Belz...]

YOU ARE TOTALLY NUTS. You can't handle ANY TRUTH it seems.

Here comes the clowns........

Well, if you'd know anything about skeptics, you might want to present a little something called evidence.

[Belz...]

No longer! JREF Ninja Wave! Arise and prepare for battle!

At once!!

[jhunter1163]

Hey Gravy, that's a Spokane, WA fax number, you have contacts out there? I only know that because it's my home town.

[Regnad Kcin]

Gravy, post #300 is a masterpiece (not that I really should be praising the love toy of Jessica and Anne, you bastige).

[Gravy]

Hey Gravy, that's a Spokane, WA fax number, you have contacts out there? I only know that because it's my home town.
It's the fax number for the FBI office there.

[Gravy]

Just kidding. It's an efax number, gets routed to my computer. You don't have control over the area code when using the free efax service. If I received many local faxes I'd pay for a local area code, but I get about one fax a year.

[delphi_ote]

YOU ARE TOTALLY NUTS. You can't handle ANY TRUTH it seems.

Here comes the clowns........
You seem to be losing your cool. Did I hit a nerve?

[Gravy]

Gravy, post #300 is a masterpiece (not that I really should be praising the love toy of Jessica and Anne, you bastige).
Thanks. My cat was glaring at me when I wrote that last part, for several reasons. It's funny but years ago someone who's now a big star in TV and movies had a crush on me when she was waiting tables nearby. She asked me out a few times and I said no, even though she was really sweet and really pretty! (Long story short: I was trying to be respectful of an ex I had just broken up with.) I was talking with a friend about this when she popped up on TV the other day, and I said, "If I had dated her I'd be living the Life of Riley, Hollywood stylee right now!"

He said, "If you had dated her she'd still be waiting tables."

Crushed!

[Psiload]

He said, "If you had dated her she'd still be waiting tables."

Oh, snap!

[Sir Knight]

Well, if you'd know anything about skeptics, you might want to present a little something called evidence.


What? Proof Evidence?

Let us recap shall we?

First I just introduce myself and the next thing I have been proven to be a total LIAR? Why? Because I am not the first to request or submit for a patent. It is PROVEN I am a LIAR and everything I say after that is frabrication and I am a Walter Mitty. And everything I could say COULD NOT BE TRUE because it sounds crazy.

Then we go to finding out I indeed do have a patent. Does that make anyone stand up and take notice of the simple fact it isn't EASY to get a patent on software, that it might make me a little more credible? Not the for most part. For some it did, but we still get on the "he is on something, let him go back to his medication etc....."

Then we go to finding a little FACT or TWO, EVIDENCE SHALL WE SAY. And then it is concluded I have been FOUND GUILTY OF SOMETHING in a Civil Court.........which is an impossibilty due to there are no finding of guilt in a CIVIL matter. Check with an attorney.

Then the PLEA, oh you must have been guilty then. Oh no one has ever entered a plea that was INNOCENT, guess again. There are more than one way to FORCE someone to take a plea. That I can say from personal experience.

I have been thinking about this and this is what I have come to, which you guys should take notice.

Proof is many things and can be different things to different people. A lot of it is how quickly someone comes to a conclusion, if they stop asking WHY until there is no more to ask in the WHY dept. For if you don't know WHY you know pretty much nothing.

Proof to some people is simply what is in their own mind, as many example of that have been posted on here as FACTS when they are just their opinions.

To others are simple facts, pieces shall we shall that don't show the whole picture which could be part of something that is entirely different from what it attempted to be shown as a complete conclusion when it isn't.

I never said I had ABSOLUTE PROOF, IRREFUTABLE PROOF yet that is what has been posted I said, that and many other things have been posted that I supposed said when I didn't. I can't believe what has happened on here. Skeptics? They are not irrational people who create up conclusions based on their opinions. I think you are thinking of PESIMISTS. And to be totally honest on here, I don't believe you would the absolute truth if it was laid out in front of you with a notary stamp on it. I have found that some people have drawn conclusions based on a feeling of comfort, the comfort zone or shall we say "the bubble" they live in. And if you threaten that bubble they react in a violent manner almost. So there are a portion of the public that you will NEVER prove anything to, NEVER! Because if you did you would destroy their little world, it has nothing to do with reality. So did I ever say I would CONVINCE ALL OF YOU? No, I would have been a fool to say that, and I truly am no fool. Why do you think there is an expression, "wake up to reality" and I didn't make that up?

It also appears that a lot of you, NOT ALL, expect, want or demand things to be placed right in front of you. Well if there is ANY conspiracy what so ever in anything, THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. I can speak from personal experience there. And even if it was you would DOUBT IT, but if you find it yourself, MAYBE and I say MAYBE you will believe it. Because you have to consider the source and that is logical, but when it comes to our government, a lot of people give them more credit than they deserve.
But if you start off believing for what ever reason the source is CRAZY will you take anything he says as having an ounce of truth to it? Probably not. So now you guys are finding out I have not made up my problems, maybe I am not crazy......and I quote, "I am a real person and I have REAL problems" but I was accused of having a persecution complex and many other idiotic things. I wish.

I think what I have done so far on here is prove that people easily to the wrong conclusions very easily, and are persuaded to jump to the wrong conclusions without any proof what so ever. And that goes for the majority of the country.

People are framed every day in this world for all kinds of things. The press is subject to the same MAGIC acts as everyone else. People are CONVICTED (and I wasn't luckily) for things they had nothing to do with and sometimes it has taken 20 years to get them out using DNA evidence, because everything else said they did it. Geesh, guilty people NOT guilty?
That would never happen in the U.S., but it would and has.

Please note than in either problem where I was suppose to have a JURY TRIAL, I didn't get it. I wanted to go to trial in front of a jury but I was deprived of that. WHY? Very good question, very. For the past 4 years of my life things have gone seriously wrong because someone else has been at the wheel, not me. This could easily happen to you, too easily.
Our civil rights we should never give up but since 9/11 things have been taken from us slowly and carefully. The Patriot Act has nothing to do with being a PATRIOT as far as I can see. Someone points a finger at you and calls you a TERRORIST, you will find out how many rights you have under that ACT. Even if you are a PATRIOT it won't matter. And if someone who knows someone wants you out of the way they can do that almost with impunity.

Things are not what they seem at all.

SK

[Hellbound]

*yawn*

[Sir Knight]

No you don't get to make up the rules lol. The mods lol get lol to lol make lol the lol rules lol.


Really? What would they do take away from me the THREAD I never ask for? ohhhh so scary. And such is our freedom of speech? Where as if I don't post, then this would just die. So for this thread to live, don't I have control? Would the MODS take someone they give me ABOUT MY LIFE away when they gave it to me? I would like to hear from the mods about this, because no one asked me if I wanted this and no one told me the conditions if there were any.

[delphi_ote]

*yawn*
In this situation, I prefer:
:words:

[Sir Knight]

You seem to be losing your cool. Did I hit a nerve?

LOL, no after what I have been through, I do have nerves left but I am a lot stronger than you give me credit for. By the way, I think that was a quote from a movie. LOL

Truth, the Truth, You can't handle the TRUTH!

Look it up.

SK

[Hellbound]

LOL, no after what I have been through, I do have nerves left but I am a lot stronger than you give me credit for. By the way, I think that was a quote from a movie. LOL

Truth, the Truth, You can't handle the TRUTH!

Look it up.

SK

Wow, your use of a fictional story proves your account is true!

:rolleyes:

[delphi_ote]

But if you start off believing for what ever reason the source is CRAZY will you take anything he says as having an ounce of truth to it? Probably not. So now you guys are finding out I have not made up my problems, maybe I am not crazy......and I quote, "I am a real person and I have REAL problems" but I was accused of having a persecution complex and many other idiotic things. I wish.
Please seek professional help. The world you talk about living in is very scary. I wouldn't want to go through all that by myself. A psychologist will understand what all this means and will help you.

[delphi_ote]

LOL, no after what I have been through, I do have nerves left but I am a lot stronger than you give me credit for. By the way, I think that was a quote from a movie. LOL

Truth, the Truth, You can't handle the TRUTH!

Look it up.

SK
After what you've been through, you probably need someone to talk to. No matter how strong you are, everyone needs help from time to time. It wouldn't hurt to talk to a psychologist. They might help you sort some of this out for yourself.

As for that line, it was spoken by Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men to Tom Cruise's character in response to, "I want the truth." None of that is relevant here.

[Sir Knight]

[quote=Gravy;1871601]These threads, all of them, are public discussion threads. Please keep that in mind.


Hello, may I ask you a question? Why are you here? You seemed to be uninterested with things, you seem to not believe anything I say, so why are you here? Why listen and why post anything? If there is anyone on here that doesn't believe me on anything, if there is no truth to anything I have said or done, WHY COME HERE? Why give me a minute of your time?

And I never said I AM RUNNING for my life. Geesh, HIDING isn't exactly the same not even close to RUNNING.

SK

[Sir Knight]

After what you've been through, you probably need someone to talk to. No matter how strong you are, everyone needs help from time to time. It wouldn't hurt to talk to a psychologist. They might help you sort some of this out for yourself.

As for that line, it was spoken by Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men to Tom Cruise's character in response to, "I want the truth." None of that is relevant here.


I think that statement is more of an opinion than a fact.

[Hellbound]

And I never said I AM RUNNING for my life. Geesh, HIDING isn't exactly the same not even close to RUNNING.

SK


Wait.

If you're hiding, you aren't doing it very well, considering we found your info rather quickly (although you initially denied that was you).

And didn't you talk about being in an RV with a satellite hookup? That sounds a lot like running.

Or are we changing our stories again?

It's like a choose-your-own adventure book where we keep going back a few steps to try all the options!

:D

[delphi_ote]

Why give me a minute of your time?
You came to our discussion forum with your wild claims. They remain unproven, but you keep making them. Challenging wild claims is what we do around here.

So that's why we're here. Why are you here?

[delphi_ote]

I think that statement is more of an opinion than a fact.
All of what I posted there was true. Why are you so afraid to talk to someone? I thought you were tough, Michael.

[chipmunk stew]

These threads, all of them, are public discussion threads. Please keep that in mind.


Hello, may I ask you a question? Why are you here? You seemed to be uninterested with things, you seem to not believe anything I say, so why are you here? Why listen and why post anything? If there is anyone on here that doesn't believe me on anything, if there is no truth to anything I have said or done, WHY COME HERE? Why give me a minute of your time?

SK
:confused:

Gravy has expressed more interest than anyone else. See post #300 (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1871577&postcount=300).

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

This thread has become much more entertaining now that I have SK on ignore.

[Sir Knight]

[quote=delphi_ote;1872035]After what you've been through, you probably need someone to talk to. No matter how strong you are, everyone needs help from time to time. It wouldn't hurt to talk to a psychologist. They might help you sort some of this out for yourself.

Well you know, anyone, like the guy that was here last night for example, who has really talked to me, really listened to me, looked at the facts and talked to others (not just me) about what has happened to me ALSO says I need help, but NO ONE has told me to go see a psychologist. They suggest finding someone that could help, mostly a high powered law firm, or a person in high places that might want a feather in their cap.

But I don't have the money to hire a high powered law firm.

I have been told to find someone that wants to make a movie out of it, because it would make a great movie (and I have really been told that). Actually it would take a miniseries. Not kidding.

I have been told to find or go to many people and places but no one had suggested to see a doctor like you have suggested and frankly I think it would be a waste of time for someone to tell me I have problems and charge me for it. I have already had a lot of attorney's do that so would THAT be REDUNDANT?

I deal with it all quite fine, do I like it NO, but there is no way a psychologist is going to help me in anyway. Because I am not delusional, and since I am dealing with reality the best I can, and all they would tell me to do is DEAL WITH IT.

I have people to talk too, I am not lonely as you think. I am not living alone in a dark damp cave for pete's sake. And if any of the Master Posters really think I am just craving attention just please shut this thread down.

And someone said THEY ASSUME. yeah a lot of assumptions go on here.

SK

[Brainache]

So have you faxed your proof to Gravy yet? He gave you his number.

[Sir Knight]

So have you faxed your proof to Gravy yet? He gave you his number.

First of all I am NOT going to do anything with some thing posted out in the open. Geesh.

What are PM's for? And I said I would consider it, and depending on the person I am dealing with.

If you get real so will I.

SK

[Bandersnatch]

First of all I am NOT going to do anything with some thing posted out in the open. Geesh.

Wait, what? Doth that sound like skipping out? If you were really serious about speading 'the truth' you would send him the info. What does being public have anything to do with it?

[delphi_ote]

I have people to talk too, I am not lonely as you think. I am not living alone in a dark damp cave for pete's sake.
Your stories are not consistent.
Well you better put me in touch with one of those people you said come on here then because my family is all dead. And phoning just don't work I guess. And I just lost a very near and dear friend lately which knew of everything that has happened to me. They said he died of a heart attack from other complications.
You're saying whatever you think will get people to listen to you. Go talk to a psychologist. They will understand you. They will help you. Your belief that they'll tell you to get over it is mistaken.

[Regnad Kcin]

Let us recap shall we?

First I just introduce myself...I don't have to read any further. You did not "just" introduce yourself.

Loose Change - Part IV - Page 55 - JREF Forum (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1860441&postcount=2175)

Hello everyone, well this is my first post and I have already learned so many things. Like all the things you CANNOT do when you are NEW here. So I am having to retype this whole thing OVER for when you are NEW you cannot use other URLS not related to this site, so POOF my lengthy post was gone!

Let me tell you a little about myself before you write me off as a looney toon. I am 55 years old, an inventor, well educated, a writer, investigator, been in computers for over 30 years and I was issued the first patent issued on software.So far, it's an introduction.

Now with that said I will get to WHY I came to this site and WHY I am posting here. I viewed LOOSE CHANGE not just one but a couple of times now, and I was super impressed with how it was done. They didn't tell you want to believe, they just showed you the news clips, facts and testimony from those that were there and they asked the questions and let you come to the conclusions, which for the most part were foregone conclusions.Then a segue to praise for "Loose Change". (Oh, and the "[t]hey didn't tell you want [sic] to believe" gem is priceless.)

I never believed in the conspiracy being touted by the Government that it was foreigners doing it. See the government wanted us to believe in a conspiracy but the one they were selling didn't include them.Followed by an argument from incredulity and an unsupported assertion.

I am angry at many people because of the film which only confirmed what I suspected had gone on, but it did things in a more detailed and factual manner instead of just a gut feeling.With a little confirmation bias thrown in.

But I am more angry with the NAY SAYERS on LOOSE CHANGE which I have found on this thread. I can't believe people can be so stupid with regarding simple straight forward facts.Why lookie here! An ad-hom in the first post!

And they wonder how the government thought they could get away with this? Well we have less rights now than we had BEFORE 9/11, we are not living in a FREE society anymore But people like Luke T. is why the government thought they would get away with things.Never mind Luke T. is one of the finest individuals on this forum, your assertion about "not living in a FREE society anymore" is laughably in error.

Here is the quote: "And does this look like a 16 foot hole to anyone? That's what Loose Changes says is all that was created in the Pentagon by the attack." Well the picture posted by Luke shows a fallen portion of the Pentagon AFTER it had burned for a while and had collapsed long after the video taken by the news media.A bit of unsupported analysis.

post1493879?

The video showed the smaller HOLE in the Pentagon right AFTER the missle hit. And what about the government saying the plane crashed in front of the Pentagon and skidded into it when there was NO evidence of that happening and this was all NEWS footage right after it happened. The hole shown by LOOSE CHANGE was NEWS FOOTAGE, how can you argue with that? It was NOT big enough to have been created by the airline which the Government said CRASHED INTO THE PENTAGON. Forgetting for a moment that someone else in the government said it was a MISSLE. LOL I saw the windows just beside the SMALL hole intact except from broken glass and I guarantee you that if a BIG AIRLINER had hit that building there would BE NO WINDOWS are all there.Yup, "just introduc[ing] myself."

How can logical people believe the BS handed out by the government? But a lot do, and that is why they thought they could get away with it, and even if everyone believed in the REAL conspiracy what would they do about it? Oh maybe we could get our own government to do an investigation which they might release to the public in about 50 years from now.More near-incoherent ranting.

I think everyone should review the movie several times and TAKE NOTES.Hear that, Gravy and MarkyX, you slackers?

Do research and THINK. I find it incredible that any person after looking at the simple facts could ever believe that the story being peddled by our government is even close to being the truth.More argument from incredulity. And ignorance.

There is a lot more than what I have posted here I would love to say but I guess I have used up my 5 cents worth on this note.Yes, it can be tiring to "just" introduce oneself.

Let me know what you think or feel, but do it AFTER really reviewing the movie, not by going on what other people have said or what you think you know.

Sir KnightFriend, what I "think or feel" is that you should apologize for your belligerent and arrogant tone (not to mention many errors) when visiting a forum for the first time to "just" introduce yourself.

[Beleth]

You do realize that you spend most of your time not explaining what you're talking about, then telling us how misunderstood you are, then blaming us for not understanding you, right?
You win this thread.

Say hi to Jessica and Anne for me.

[Hellbound]

NO!

I WIN THIS THREAD!!

JREF Ninja Wave, ATTACK!!!!

[Sir Knight]

Wait, what? Doth that sound like skipping out? If you were really serious about speading 'the truth' you would send him the info. What does being public have anything to do with it?

He has a PM, we shall see what he does with it.

My stories are consistant. In fact one poster pointed that out and it wasn't me.

I have come to the conclusion that GRAVY is probably the ONLY one you will listen to and I read his post.

If he is real, I will send him some things and see what he does with it.
Not everything but a lot of stuff to show I am not crazy and making this up.

There are reasons I don't want to chance being the one to post anything, if you guys do it that would be great, if I do it, well there could be hell to pay for it and I have already been there.

The ball is in his court, and I am WAITING.

If he doesn't follow through I see no point in continuing this thread, not on my part anyway.

SK

[Belz...]

What? Proof Evidence?

Yes. Want definitions ?

First I just introduce myself and the next thing I have been proven to be a total LIAR? Why? Because I am not the first to request or submit for a patent. It is PROVEN I am a LIAR and everything I say after that is frabrication and I am a Walter Mitty. And everything I could say COULD NOT BE TRUE because it sounds crazy.

Irrelevant. Present proof of your claims.

I have been thinking about this and this is what I have come to, which you guys should take notice.

Please don't lump me up with other people. Belz... doesn't like cuddling. Well, not with guys, anyway.

I never said I had ABSOLUTE PROOF, IRREFUTABLE PROOF

Is there any other kind ?

So there are a portion of the public that you will NEVER prove anything to, NEVER! Because if you did you would destroy their little world, it has nothing to do with reality.

Stop talking about CTers and present your proof, already.

Really? What would they do take away from me the THREAD I never ask for? ohhhh so scary.

Oh, so now it ISN'T your thread ? Well, I guess you don't have any claim to it, after all. I was simply pointing out that you have no power here.

And such is our freedom of speech?

Only the government can impede on your freedom of speech.

[Belz...]

And I never said I AM RUNNING for my life. Geesh, HIDING isn't exactly the same not even close to RUNNING.


You're not hiding. You lead a life where you meet people all the time. You said so a few pages ago and I called you on it.

[Sir Knight]

Exactly. And I'm sure if there was any breach of procedure, that alone would be grounds for a further appeal.

We are talking STATE LAWS here, not FED. You need to speak to an attorney. I have talked to many and seen the laws myself.

[Sir Knight]

You're not hiding. You lead a life where you meet people all the time. You said so a few pages ago and I called you on it.


I am NOT hiding from everyone. Geesh, and you have no idea how I am hiding. What do you think the witness protection program is? Do they put them under a rock?

Too funny for words.

P.S. I am still waiting on Gravy.

[Sir Knight]

Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Ever heard of that?

That is NOT absolute or irrrefutable proof but people are put to death because of it.

And there are all kind of proof, different levels etc.

Pebbles you are thowing pebbles......and

I am still waiting on Gravy.

SK

[delphi_ote]

I am NOT hiding from everyone anyone.
Fixed that for you.

[Sir Knight]

Fixed that for you.


No I meant what I said, EVERYONE, I am hiding from some people. Gravy will be able to talk to my attorney if he responds to my PM.

I am still waiting on Gravy.

SK

[Belz...]

I am NOT hiding from everyone. Geesh, and you have no idea how I am hiding. What do you think the witness protection program is? Do they put them under a rock?

Too funny for words.

Well, again you're assuming that I know everything that goes on in your little head. Be more specific. Besides, I doubt you're in a witness protection program, so we can skip that, not counting that fact that you still use your real name and location.

[Bandersnatch]

Funny how your waiting for Garvy while he's not on the forum.

[Belz...]

Proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Ever heard of that?

A "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't exist. You can prove something beyond reasonable doubt, however.

[Sir Knight]

Well, again you're assuming that I know everything that goes on in your little head. Be more specific. Besides, I doubt you're in a witness protection program, so we can skip that, not counting that fact that you still use your real name and location.

NO, wrong on all counts. First of I do not assume you know anything except from what I posted, and even then I have my doubts.

I never said I was in the witness protection program at all, I said people can hide from particular people and still meet people etc. But in truth I have often said that I am in my own witness protection program. One some times can be worse off when they have the governments help. There are leaks in the government...is that in dispute? LOL

And I have never said I am at any location, nor given it out and you can't find it. And where I am now I am NOT using my real name. Why would you assume I was? See it is all conjecture without any facts or proof behind it.

And see what is interesting is you said it was a FACT that I am using my real name and real location, which is totally false, I never said that and no one has proved where I am not even remotely. Is that irrefutable proof or a FACT which is truly just a figment of your imagination? LOL

And I am still waiting on Gravy........

[Sir Knight]

A "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" doesn't exist. You can prove something beyond reasonable doubt, however.


Well consider this, if you PROVE something beyond a reasonable doubt, then the person being REASONABLE considers it REASONABLE PROOF.
Now unfortunately other people may not find it to be PROOF what so ever.
I rest my case on this one. Geesh

[Belz...]

NO, wrong on all counts. First of I do not assume you know anything except from what I posted, and even then I have my doubts.

Then you forgot a part, methinks.

But in truth I have often said that I am in my own witness protection program.

Arguably the worst one in existence.

And I have never said I am at any location, nor given it out and you can't find it.

Maybe I should send you a postcard.

And see what is interesting is you said it was a FACT that I am using my real name and real location, which is totally false, I never said that and no one has proved where I am not even remotely. Is that irrefutable proof or a FACT which is truly just a figment of your imagination?

Nuh-huh. By using your real name HERE you've just made it much easier for someone else to find you in your "real" life.

[Skibum]

And I am still waiting on Gravy........

He's busy at the moment.


12 noon: Massage, or sex, depending on how frisky I'm feeling.
1:30: Luncheon at the Gowanus Yacht Club.
3-5 pm: Sculpture class.
7 pm: Effortlessly pitch a 2-hit shutout and drive in three runs for the Brooklyn Cyclones. Take a call from Willie Randolph while dining on Nathan's hot dogs and Brooklyn Lager in the owner's box between innings.

I imagine he will get back to you sometime before the game.

[Belz...]

Well consider this, if you PROVE something beyond a reasonable doubt, then the person being REASONABLE considers it REASONABLE PROOF.
Now unfortunately other people may not find it to be PROOF what so ever.
I rest my case on this one. Geesh

Reasonable proof. That's a new one.

[Sir Knight]

Funny how your waiting for Garvy while he's not on the forum.


You missed the point entirely once again. First of all it is not GARVY, but GRAVY. I fixed that for you.

And what I was informing you that all this other BS is unimportant, so why waste time on it?

I have sent him something, and even if he isn't on the thread I figured he would get an email. And I would hear from him. I am sure he is around somewhere.

And more or less the ball is in his court.

SK

[Sir Knight]

Then you forgot a part, methinks.
Arguably the worst one in existence.
Maybe I should send you a postcard.
Nuh-huh. By using your real name HERE you've just made it much easier for someone else to find you in your "real" life.



Oh I can get mail, a post office box gets my mail just fine. Which one are you going to send it to? The one up way North or the one way down South? And who says I even pick it up?

And being on here doesn't make it easy to find me at all. That is truly a laugh and a half.

And it has been working fine for the most part until I am proven wrong.

SK

[Sir Knight]

And now I am out of here, I am very tired of this dribble.

SK

[Cuddles]

And what I was informing you that all this other BS is unimportant, so why waste time on it?

Good question. Why do you keep wasting time on it?

Oh I can get mail, a post office box gets my mail just fine. Which one are you going to send it to? The one up way North or the one way down South? And who says I even pick it up?

And being on here doesn't make it easy to find me at all. That is truly a laugh and a half.

And it has been working fine for the most part until I am proven wrong.

SK

You mean working fine except for the bits where people keep trying to kill you?

[Sir Knight]

Good question. Why do you keep wasting time on it?



You mean working fine except for the bits where people keep trying to kill you?


I am sorry but you deserve this one, YOU ARE AN IDIOT. YOu have no idea when I started this hiding, and FYI since I have been in my protection plan there has not BEEN ONE attempt on my life. Before that several, but not since, so again it has been working just fine.

I don't know how old your are but by your level of imcompetent thinking, you must be 7 or 8.

Now I will leave the thread to you clowns.

SK

[delphi_ote]

His website declares, “His destiny lies on Waterford Island, which is just outside of Waterford City. It is a 330 acre Island, with a 12th century castle and has a professional 18 hole golf course.”

It adds, “Currently located in southern Florida, he is Irish though, and his heart is really in southern Ireland on an island just south of Waterford.”

The site also displays photos of what Wayne claims is his suit of armor and his sword, as well as a long poem which begins, “A long long time ago, In a land far far away, Lived a beautiful Princess, That was so lonely every day. The Princess is eventually rescued by a knight in shining armor, who steals her heart.
http://www.irishabroad.com/news/irishinamerica/news/irishmessiah-050727.asp
http://www.waterfordcastle.com/

[Cuddles]

I am sorry but you deserve this one, YOU ARE AN IDIOT. YOu have no idea when I started this hiding, and FYI since I have been in my protection plan there has not BEEN ONE attempt on my life. Before that several, but not since, so again it has been working just fine.

I don't know how old your are but by your level of imcompetent thinking, you must be 7 or 8.

Now I will leave the thread to you clowns.

SK

I notice you didn't answer my first question.

[Meffy]

And I am still waiting on Gravy........

Ha! You think that's bad? Listen, I went down to my favorite deli yesterday. On the waiter's recommendation I ordered the whitefish. I took one sniff and started muttering in a low voice to the fish. The waiter looked puzzled and turned back. "What," he says with a scowl, "you want to eat your lunch or maybe marry it?" So I tell him "Oy, we're just schmoozing. Did you know this fish came from Great Neck Bay?" The waiter's still skeptical but starts looking interested. "So?" "So I'm asking it how things are back in Great Neck. And you know what the fish tells me? 'How should I know? I haven't been there in years!'"

[milesalpha]

Ok we got a movie here. Clear back all of you, I am casting this thing.

Gravy-Dustin Hoffman
Belz-Robert Reford
I see a reteaming of Woodward and Bernstein here.

Delphi-Ote-Patrick Stewart
Calming pointing out contradictions, hmmm should I put him in a chair?

Huntsman-Gene Kelly....oh wait...he's dead, never mind, we'll get his brother, it will be cheaper (10 bonus pts. to anyone who can identify the reference). I have Kelly's performance from "Inherit the Wind" in mind.

"They"-clearly a modern rendition of the Keystone Cops that have been bred with the gangsters from Goodfellas, due to their incredible ability to kill so many around SK, without actually getting him.

The assassin-Michael Richards, as portrayed in Young Doctors In Love

"The lawyers"-John Cleese and Howard Cosell (CGI version) both of whom hold law degrees.

The Big Gun-Has to be Sam Waterston, doesn't it? Or do we bring back Moriarty? Wait! Someone see if Andy Griffith is still alive.

The President (have to get him in on it)-My first thought was John Ritter (Americathon), but he's dead too, so we will settle for Bob Newhart (too much cgi would drive up the budget).

The JREF Ninjas-well since I like the vast majority of these people, they will be portrayed by the beautiful (but inexpensive) people of hollywood. Carmen Electra, Scott Baio, Jenny MCarthy, Tom Selleck, Chris O'Donnell, take your pick.
Special Guest Appearence-Paris Hilton as Amy Wilson

Finally, the role of SK. This was tough...let's not lie, I lost sleep over this one.
I considered Mark Blankenfield from Jekyll and Hyde Together Again, Butch Miller from the WWE's Bushwackers, Bugs Bunny from Warner Brothers cartoons (who else could survive all the attacks?), Pinky from Pinky and the Brain but the winner is....

Mel Brooks for a combination of the Gov from Blazing Saddles and his iimitation of Roman Senators from History of the World...************, ************, ************. ************! ************? ************.


Almost forgot myself. Either Tommy Chong, for my penchant to observe such threads whilst stoned, or Benji, the little dog who watches the ball go back and forth, back and forth.


Someone get Paramount on the line! I hear they have some new space available.

[Meffy]

And Cirque du Soleil can play the rest of us clowns.

[Abbyas]

I am sure he is around somewhere.

I'll bet the guy's on a tour bus right now. Not a lot of computer access.

Just like to bump in here and say that I haven't spent a whole heck of a lot of time on message boards (God, who am I kidding), but I have to say that this is by far the most surreal thread I have ever read.

Ha! You think that's bad? Listen, I went down to my favorite deli yesterday...

Killed me.

And, Oh! Could I be played by Mary Louise Parker?? That's really the only reason for the post. I wanna be in the movie.

[Sir Knight]

I notice you didn't answer my first question.

I am sorry but I was ABSOLUTELY sure it was a rhetorical question.

And if it was't it should have been.

Still no gravy.

SK

[delphi_ote]

Still no gravy.
Well, we can't all have what we want all the time. Sometimes our desires are just beyond our reach, and we have to be patient.

You've waited this long for your multi-million dollar castle/golf course resort in Ireland. Can't you give Gravy a little more time?

[Abbyas]

Still no gravy.

Again, the guy's a tourguide.

He's probably explaining to some happy tourists that New York is called the Big Apple because of the apple orchards that Christopher Columbus gave Germany in exchange for the Statue of Liberty. At least, that's the story I heard.

Or some other reason why he's away from a computer. Although I couldn't begin to think of any.

[Sir Knight]

Well, we can't all have what we want all the time. Sometimes our desires are just beyond our reach, and we have to be patient.

You've waited this long for your multi-million dollar castle/golf course resort in Ireland. Can't you give Gravy a little more time?


I had not stated any conclusions except that I was still waiting. Did I say I was getting impatient. Hey if it was for BS, I sure do not have to wait for that do I? You dish it out faster than anything I have ever seen.

Just made a simple statement letting you know he hasn't contacted me as of yet. Well, there was a phone call and a nothing, just dead silence of a sort. It was a number that was blocked. It could have been him but not sure.

So I am still waiting. Just a simple statement of fact. No more and no less.

SK

SK

[Dog Town]

Still no gravy.

Go ahead post! It's just us here!
I would like to be played by G. Oldman!

[Hellbound]

Huntsman-Gene Kelly....oh wait...he's dead, never mind, we'll get his brother, it will be cheaper (10 bonus pts. to anyone who can identify the reference). I have Kelly's performance from "Inherit the Wind" in mind.

Woody Harrelson would be a better match...he's still around, isn't he?

[delphi_ote]

I had not stated any conclusions except that I was still waiting. Did I say I was getting impatient.
No. You were acting impatient, which is why I suggested we all be patient and wait for Gravy's response. Hopefully, that will clear some of this up.
Hey if it was for BS, I sure do not have to wait for that do I? You dish it out faster than anything I have ever seen.
Hmm... you're already back to being nasty and calling names in the next sentence. It's hard to take you seriously when you don't seem to have any control over your anti-social outbursts.

[Belz...]

Oh I can get mail, a post office box gets my mail just fine. Which one are you going to send it to? The one up way North or the one way down South? And who says I even pick it up?

Unimportant.

And being on here doesn't make it easy to find me at all. That is truly a laugh and a half.

I'll be sure to tell that to the mailman.

[Belz...]

Now I will leave the thread to you clowns.


Evidence ?

[Gravy]

Ha! You think that's bad? Listen, I went down to my favorite deli yesterday. On the waiter's recommendation I ordered the whitefish. I took one sniff and started muttering in a low voice to the fish. The waiter looked puzzled and turned back. "What," he says with a scowl, "you want to eat your lunch or maybe marry it?" So I tell him "Oy, we're just schmoozing. Did you know this fish came from Great Neck Bay?" The waiter's still skeptical but starts looking interested. "So?" "So I'm asking it how things are back in Great Neck. And you know what the fish tells me? 'How should I know? I haven't been there in years!'"
Meffy, you slay me.

[Gravy]

Well, I PM'd Sir Knight and essentially said that I'm not playing games, that I stand by my post #300, and that if he's got some backup for his claims, to forward it to me. The ball is in his court, where it has been sitting in its ball rack since his first post.

[Gravy]

Ok we got a movie here. Clear back all of you, I am casting this thing.
I like the cut of your topmizzen, son. Will you come on board for, oh, let me throw a number out there: low seven figures*?




*To the right of the decimal point.

[Bandersnatch]

Well, I PM'd Sir Knight and essentially said that I'm not playing games, that I stand by my post #300, and that if he's got some backup for his claims, to forward it to me. The ball is in his court, where it has been sitting in its ball rack since his first post.

So, SKs email is lost in cyberspace?

PS. Sorry about Garvy. You can call me Blamdercatch if you'd like.

[Regnad Kcin]

Sir Knight:

I notice you did not respond to my post #333. But that's okay. As they say, no response is still a response.

[Sir Knight]

Gravy you have a PM.

And I am busy right now. Later.....maybe

[Gravy]

For the record, so no one thinks it's me who's stalling this, ahem, process.

Michael,

Was there anything unclear about my last PM?

I explained to you why you can't tell if I'm trustworthy or not by the sound of my voice. I said I wasn't going to play telephone spy games with you. Now you say this: [deleted for privacy]

Again, I strongly encourage you to read your words out loud to appreciate why they sometimes strike others as bizarre.

If you want to "see" my voice, perhaps that means you've cobbled together a voice stress analyzer. It certainly would catch my exasperation at your refusal to acknowledge your serious problems. And yes, "a voice has some quality to it." All voices have many qualities. What the hell does that have to do with faxing me a couple of pieces of evidence that I asked for?

And now you want to mail me something from a city where you "are not." Now the entire U.S. Postal Service is after you? Can't you just leave the documents in the third pumpkin from the north, fifth row from the east, and bend the fake cornstalk as a signal, as usual?

I told you I'm not playing your spy games. I told you the time for excuses was over.

Stop wasting my time with your childish antics. It was your idea to fax. You have my fax number and my email. Either way is fine for me. And guess what? You'll still be alive tomorrow!

Every day above ground is a good day, my friend.

–Mark

[Meffy]

Hey! I thought it was raccoons bending my cornstalks and trampling the pumpkin vines. >:-(

[Yes, really. The little $^%#@!s.]

[Mr. Skinny]

And Cirque du Soleil can play the rest of us clowns.
Actually, I think we have (or had, haven't seen him post in a while) a JREF'er that has performed with Cirque du Soleil. "Tesseract" (sp?) was his name.

And that reminds me. What happened to "thatguywhojuggles". Haven't seen him for a while either.

That would add some spice to the movie. JREF ninja circus stars!

[Bandersnatch]

JREF ninja circus stars!

They'll decapitate, then juggle, your head!

[Cuddles]

I am sorry but I was ABSOLUTELY sure it was a rhetorical question.

And if it was't it should have been.

Still no gravy.

SK

I recommend looking up the word "rhetorical". And "evidence". Heck, the whole dictionaries pretty good. Although the plot loses something towards the end.
The zebra did it!

[Meffy]

Oh, I dunno. The bit about Zwingli is pretty exciting. And zwitterions.

[milesalpha]

I like the cut of your topmizzen, son. Will you come on board for, oh, let me throw a number out there: low seven figures*?




*To the right of the decimal point.

Hmmm I think I can handle the increase in wages but we would have to talk benefits package...to wit...

A. My wife would be played by Salma Hayek who would have to share a trailer with me.
B. My actual wife is not to be informed of any arrangements with Miss Hayek.
C. If my wife does become aware of Miss Hayek, by any means, then the production company becomes responsible for all medical and rehabilitation costs, up to and including funeral arrangements.


Um, my wife just walked in and became aware of this proposal...goodby cruel world.

[NoZed Avenger]

It is actually NOTHING. And it is that NOTHING that is a problem, a wrriten response if I had FAILED would have allowed an appeal to the State Supreme Court, but if they did NOTHING, no written response I cannot appeal. They had to stop me at the 4th, again WHY? If you get a copy of the appeal you will know why. There is a loop hole in the law that if they DO NOT GIVE A WRITTEN OPINION, you CANNOT APPEAL to the State Supreme Court.


B.S.

That *is* a written opinion. It clearly affirmed the lower court decision against the appellant (you). Whether reported or not, it could have been appealed -- but those deadlines ran out some time ago.

[Sir Knight]

B.S.

That *is* a written opinion. It clearly affirmed the lower court decision against the appellant (you). Whether reported or not, it could have been appealed -- but those deadlines ran out some time ago.

You are not a lawyer and don't know what you are talking about. A law professor and several other lawyers actually said different. No there was no specific answer, if you check the 4th we requested a WRITTEN opinion. For pete's sake talk to an attorney. Geesh

SK

[Gravy]

My last PM

Michael,

You seem to have already forgotten my mnemonic device: "Fact fine, babble bad."

I made my position clear. I won't be on the receiving end of your rants, and I don't appreciate you wasting my time after I made a sincere offer.

If you prefer, tell yourself that I'm afraid to fall under the sway of your Svengali-like powers.

Better yet, seek professional help ASAP.

–Mark

[hellaeon]

Ignored...

time for the lunacy...

[Bandersnatch]

The upper left one is the best. Both expressions are great.

You didn't take those spur of the moment, did you?

[NoZed Avenger]

You are not a lawyer and don't know what you are talking about. A law professor and several other lawyers actually said different. No there was no specific answer, if you check the 4th we requested a WRITTEN opinion. For pete's sake talk to an attorney. Geesh


I just consulted with one by talking to myself in the mirror (apparently the method you use for a lot of stuff, too), and the handsome guy I spoke with affirmed that I was right, and that my last haircut was, and I quote, "hawt."

Feel free to name the "law professor" or attorney and I can chat with them over what they really said, because I suspect it is almost entirely unlike what you have written.

For example, a party may have requested that the reasons for a court's per curiam opinion be written for purposes of further appeal, but they are not in any way entitled to it, nor would the absence of such explanation make the per curiam opinion any less (a) valid, or (b) appealable. It makes an appeal harder in the abstract sense only in the sense that the appealing party must nullify all possible grounds that the appellate court upheld the trial court's decision on -- but the supreme court of the state could easily affirm the lower court on one of those grounds, even if not stated in the opinion directly.

If you talked to an actual attorney that offices somewhere outside your head (a dubious proposition), then I suspect that you have completely misunderstood what he or she told you. After reading this thread, I can certainly belive *that*.

[milesalpha]

The role of the cat will be played by Eddie the dog from Frasier, This is obviously a project for Terry Gilliam.

[Belz...]

Ok we got a movie here. Clear back all of you, I am casting this thing.

Gravy-Dustin Hoffman
Belz-Robert Reford

Redford ? I'm not THAT old!

And why that choice, anyway ??

<sulk>

[Hellbound]

I just consulted with one by talking to myself in the mirror (apparently the method you use for a lot of stuff, too), and the handsome guy I spoke with affirmed that I was right, and that my last haircut was, and I quote, "hawt."

*snicker*

Yeah, I almost fell outta my chair at work when he opened up with "you are not a lawyer."

Um, dood, yes, he is.

I suppose most forums consist of lonely housewives, pre-pubescent teens, geeks in their mother's basement, and pedophiles. He probably didn't expect a situation like here, where the majority of posters are professionals in one field or another.

[sackett]

Can we write in a knife-throwing scene? You know, Sir Knight is just lifting the (unknown to him) poisoned martini to his lips when WHIRR! THUDD! a glistening blade pins his sleeve to the costly mahogany paneling of his study. “Hey! That was CLOSE!”*

Quick pan to Ms. Hayek slinking in, twirling two still unthrown daggers. “You should thank me, Mr. Knight. I believe I have just saved your life.” She leans very close to pluck the knife from the wood. “Perhaps I can give you other reasons to be – grateful, shall we say?” Much slippery silk and glinting steel. We can edit the PG-13 version later.

Ms. Hayek will require considerable coaching in how to toss a sticker. I’ll handle that. I said I’ll handle that!

*He talks in caps, I write dialogue in caps. Wutchoo looken at me for?

[sackett]

A member of the American Knife Throwers Alliance actually did coach the exquisite Ms. Hayek in knife throwing, for an otherwise forgettable adventure movie also starring Penelope Cruz. Sure, it’s a tough job, but somebody’s got to do it.

I’m not scared of hard work.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

The role of the cat will be played by Eddie the dog from Frasier, This is obviously a project for Terry Gilliam.

Eddie's dead too. :(

[milesalpha]

Eddie's dead too. :(

Never mind, we'll get his brother, it'll be cheaper. (now raising the offer to 25 bonus points on this one for identifying the reference).

[Johnny Pixels]

Ms. Hayek will require considerable coaching in how to toss a sticker. I’ll handle that. I said I’ll handle that!


How about coaching her on how to stick a tosser? :D

[milesalpha]

Redford ? I'm not THAT old!

And why that choice, anyway ??

<sulk>


Steady now, I was looking for quality in the lead roles, and they did give, arguably, the greatest investigative performances of all time. As to the age, eh, this is a fantasy after all, and we can make them look younger through a little CGI.

If I have any more trouble from the leads, I will recast them with Adam West and Burt Ward.

So be good, or its "Holy Gubmint Conspiracy, Gravy!" for you.

[Psiload]

Here's my take on the assassination attempt- specifically, the "poisoning"...

Phenobarbitol-laced apple sauce. One of Sir Knight's followers got a little overzealous and decided to skip ahead a few steps in "the process".

[Brainache]

Never mind, we'll get his brother, it'll be cheaper. (now raising the offer to 25 bonus points on this one for identifying the reference).


Monty Python's Contractual Obligation Album.
John Cleese trying to sell string: "We'll get Archbishop Makarios- oh he's dead. Never mind we'll get his brother..."

[milesalpha]

Monty Python's Contractual Obligation Album.
John Cleese trying to sell string: "We'll get Archbishop Makarios- oh he's dead. Never mind we'll get his brother..."

And we have a winner, for those who haven't heard this relatively unknown gem, it is part of the Advertising Clinic sketch and is hilarious.

[Brainache]

OK so can I be played by Michael Palin?
Although unfortunately I look more like Tim Robbins...

[Belz...]

Steady now, I was looking for quality in the lead roles, and they did give, arguably, the greatest investigative performances of all time. As to the age, eh, this is a fantasy after all, and we can make them look younger through a little CGI.

If I have any more trouble from the leads, I will recast them with Adam West and Burt Ward.

So be good, or its "Holy Gubmint Conspiracy, Gravy!" for you.

FINE! But I'd have chosen Bruce Willis, myself. Not that I look in any way, shape or form anything like him, unfortunately.

[Ducky]

Cue my cameo as played by Lewis Black...

"This guy is nuts!"

[Belz...]

Cue my cameo as played by Lewis Black...

"This guy is nuts!"

Hey, Fowl. How're thing ?

[Ducky]

Hey, Fowl. How're thing ?


[lewis black]

Things are f***ed! It's the coldest winter EVER! If you have fur on your nuts its been a festival! I can't complete a sentence in my head! I start to think something and......F*** IT'S COLD!"

[/lewis black]


Seriously, not bad. I'll post about it in community soon...

[Drysdale]

Another one bites the dust eh?

Sir Knight must be in hiding after yet another attempt to assassinate him ended up with the kidnapping of his barber.

[Bandersnatch]

You know what they say,

Hair today, gone tommorow.

[Meffy]

Sir Knight must be in hiding after yet another attempt to assassinate him ended up with the kidnapping of his barber.

BLAST! If that doesn't kickle the barham. Do you have any idea how much it cost to recruit Mr. Todd and get SK to choose him as his barber? Well, that's the end of his gravy train, and Mrs. Lovett's too.

[kevin]

And we have a winner, for those who haven't heard this relatively unknown gem, it is part of the Advertising Clinic sketch and is hilarious.

i have some string i'd like to sell.

[delphi_ote]

Redford ? I'm not THAT old!

And why that choice, anyway ??

<sulk>
At least you get to have hair!

[Ducky]

i have some string i'd like to sell.

Due to poor planning the 122 thousand miles of it is in three inch lengths. It's not very useful.

String, washing powder....we can sell anything!

[valis]

I have actually seen (and driven) a car that showed a computerized display of the car when you started it. Any lights that were burned out were marked on the for a little while before the display switched to speedometer and other gauges.

The blipping thing didn't work by checking to see if the bulbs lit up, though. All it did was check for continuity. A burned out bulb is an open circuit. All you have to do to fake it out is to put a resistor in parallel to the burned out (or disconnected) bulb. No fooling around with "microswitches and the right timing," as I mentioned to Sir Knight in that other thread.

Total derail but Chevy had a system in the Corvette in the, I belive, early 70's that did this. They discountinued it due to the cost and the fact mechanics did not know how to maintain it, and kept breaking them.

[Gravy]

Total derail but Chevy had a system in the Corvette in the, I belive, early 70's that did this. They discountinued it due to the cost and the fact mechanics did not know how to maintain it, and kept breaking them.
Since Sir Knight has left for more shadowy pastures, I don't think it's possible to derail this thread. My mother's '73 Corvette did not have that feature, for what it's worth, but it did have the famous "serpentine" feature which made it impossible to drive in a straight line in the snow.

[Brainache]

So I take it that Sir Knight never gave you proof of this earth shattering conspiracy that was all tied up with 9/11 and his ex-girlfriend?
How surprising.

[Cuddles]

Ah, but the proof is that he has now been disappeared by the government. If he wasn't telling the truth then he would still be here.

[NoZed Avenger]

So I take it that Sir Knight never gave you proof of this earth shattering conspiracy that was all tied up with 9/11 and his ex-girlfriend?


That's my favorite bit: "and his ex-girlfriend."


Oh, man.

[hellaeon]

Come back SK

[delphi_ote]

Let's all hope he's off somewhere getting help.

[Bandersnatch]

That's my favorite bit: "and his ex-girlfriend."

As it turns out, I found and article where he names the poisioner as Nancy.

[Brainache]

As it turns out, I found and article where he names the poisioner as Nancy.

Nancy Reagan?
Nancy Sinatra?
Nancy Drew?
Nancy Spungen?

[Regnad Kcin]

"Everyone knew her as 'Nancy.'"

[Belz...]

Due to poor planning the 122 thousand miles of it is in three inch lengths. It's not very useful.

String, washing powder....we can sell anything!

WAHOO!! The megawatt titanium avatar is back!!

[Bandersnatch]

He claims she also sprinkled poison throughout his house trying to kill him, a charge Clayton denies.

Look under the 'Nonsense' heading. (http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:q6Ot2rfDJpIJ:www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/broward_county/12322334.htm%3Ftemplate%3DcontentModules/printstory.jsp+%22Nancy+Clayton%22+poison&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=8)

[DavidJames]

"Everyone knew her as 'Nancy.'"
Melanie Haber, Audrey Farber or Betty Joe Bialowski?

[delphi_ote]

Look under the 'Nonsense' heading. (http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:q6Ot2rfDJpIJ:www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/broward_county/12322334.htm%3Ftemplate%3DcontentModules/printstory.jsp+%22Nancy+Clayton%22+poison&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=8)
That guy is outright dangerous. Reading between the lines a bit, it seems clear he's got more than one person under his spell.

I really hope he gets some help.

[Gravy]

''I can't walk away from this and let him win,'' she said. "I've got to take him down. .... God is going to pull me through this.''

[Meffy]

He said he has been married four times, though the name of his last wife has slipped his mind.
Details, details... there are more important concerns!

=9_9=

Gotta agree, this guy's a danger to more than just himself.

[Mr. Skinny]

"Everyone knew her as 'Nancy.'"
I was close to her. She called herself "Lil".

[jhunter1163]

Yeah, but I knew her when she was McGill.