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Cuddles
30th August 2006, 04:42 PM
"Shill

A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services, who pretends no association to the seller and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology, to encourage other potential customers, unaware of the set-up, to purchase said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists."

A government shill is someone who is secretly affiliated with the government but pretends to be completely independent while supporting them in order to encourage others to the same. I was just wondering how many people here who have been accused of being government shills actually work for the govenment or in the public sector and therefore can't be shills by definition?

WildCat
30th August 2006, 04:46 PM
The CT'ers are so enamored of their theory (whatever flavor they believe in) that no one could possibly disagree with them, thus anyone who does must be a paid agent of the gov't/new world order/Zionists/illuminati/freemasons/skull-and-bones etc.

It's a frightening world they live in.

Darth Rotor
30th August 2006, 04:49 PM
"Shill

A shill is an associate of a person selling goods or services, who pretends no association to the seller and assumes the air of an enthusiastic customer. The intention of the shill is, using crowd psychology, to encourage other potential customers, unaware of the set-up, to purchase said goods or services. Shills are often employed by confidence artists."

A government shill is someone who is secretly affiliated with the government but pretends to be completely independent while supporting them in order to encourage others to the same. I was just wondering how many people here who have been accused of being government shills actually work for the govenment or in the public sector and therefore can't be shills by definition?
Hannity and Limbaugh are shills for a particular political bloc, some of whom are now in government.

Michael Moore is a shill for a different bloc.

And so on.

Is that where you are going with this post? To out all of the shills?

DR

Katana
30th August 2006, 04:50 PM
You know what? Because I didn't feel smart enough to answer your question off-hand, and I thought it was an interesting one, I Googled "government shill". One of the hits was this, a forum discussing how this forum had been hacked back in July.

Randi Hacked (http://www.airamericaplace.com/boards/lofiversion/index.php/t16541.html)

You gotta love Google.

Sword_Of_Truth
30th August 2006, 04:52 PM
We've all been accused of being shills numerous times.

Even most of the CTers have been accused by other CTers of being shills (thermite vs. micro-nukers, 100% no-planers vs. 25%/50% no-planers etc.) .

Cuddles
30th August 2006, 05:09 PM
I know most people have been accused of being shills. My point was that if you freely admit to working for the government you can't be a shill, since that implies you are trying to keep it secret. I was just wondering if anyone here actually works for the government and so clearly cannot be a shill.

For instance, I work in a (British) government lab and so any accusation that I pretend not to be with the government in order to persuade people about anything is clearly nonsense.

Edit : I was just wondering this because all the CTers accuse people of being shills without ever bothering to ask if they really are government agents. It just seems a little silly to accuse someone of pretending not to be with the government without actually checking if they are openly with the government to start with. Not that I expect CTers to ever be sensible.

T.A.M.
30th August 2006, 05:33 PM
As a health professional in Canada, I am paid by the government, through taxpayers money...so I guess I am, indirectly, a government employee...so I guess I can't be a shill...lol

Cylinder
30th August 2006, 06:13 PM
My name is Cylinder and I'm reporting for duty!

kevin
30th August 2006, 06:42 PM
i work for a gov't contractor, but not directly on gov't contracts.

hmmm, i have no idea what that means.

Horatius
30th August 2006, 07:04 PM
Not only do I work for the Canadian Government, part of my job involves turning down patents on free energy devices. Forget shill, I'm part of the cover-up! WooHoo!

Blackadder_no
30th August 2006, 10:12 PM
Don't work for the government, but yes, I've been called a government shill. By a fellow Norwegian no less.

Regnad Kcin
30th August 2006, 10:38 PM
Mmm, Norwegian Shill. I've had that, sauteed in a light lemon sauce and pan-seared. Dee-lish!

Hellbound
31st August 2006, 08:02 AM
I work for the government part-time as a U.S. Army Reservist.

In my civillian job I'm associated with the government. I handle secure file transfers and Internet security for a major insurance company, adn this company also handles the administration of the Medicare program in the state.

brodski
31st August 2006, 08:11 AM
You know what? Because I didn't feel smart enough to answer your question off-hand, and I thought it was an interesting one, I Googled "government shill". One of the hits was this, a forum discussing how this forum had been hacked back in July.

Randi Hacked (http://www.airamericaplace.com/boards/lofiversion/index.php/t16541.html)

You gotta love Google.
Um, that link refers to the Randi Rhodes show. Not James Randi.

Anyway, back to the OP, I do work for the UK government, but I shill in my spare time ;)
(of course technically I work for the Crown, as part of the Machinery of Government, I am not allowed to use my professional position to push any political ideology, or support any one political party over another).

Mr. Skinny
31st August 2006, 10:05 AM
I'm like brodski. I work for the government, but when I admit it, the CT'ers won't believe me because I admit it, therefore it's a lie, therefore I'm a shill for the government by planting disinfo, etc.

Katana
31st August 2006, 10:16 AM
Um, that link refers to the Randi Rhodes show. Not James Randi.

Anyway, back to the OP, I do work for the UK government, but I shill in my spare time ;)
(of course technically I work for the Crown, as part of the Machinery of Government, I am not allowed to use my professional position to push any political ideology, or support any one political party over another).

Wow. That's embarassing. Obviously, I didn't look past that first page. I thought that the Google hit said James Randi, but clearly I was wrong. Sorry for the sensationalism. :o

Hellbound
31st August 2006, 10:24 AM
Wow. That's embarassing. Obviously, I didn't look past that first page. I thought that the Google hit said James Randi, but clearly I was wrong. Sorry for the sensationalism. :o

Please report to Room 401 for your re-education.

:D

Katana
31st August 2006, 10:27 AM
Please report to Room 401 for your re-education.

:D

Sir! Yes, sir!


:)

Babylon Sister
31st August 2006, 11:15 AM
Another US Govt employee here. My job is to make sure the CTists never find out what all those diabolical archeological sites are up to.

If they only knew....

chacal
31st August 2006, 11:25 AM
I'm just someone who happened to join this JREF-forum. Few weeks later I recieved my first brown envelope (many yankee dollar) and have been shilling ever since.

brodski
31st August 2006, 12:05 PM
I'm like brodski. I work for the government, but when I admit it, the CT'ers won't believe me because I admit it, therefore it's a lie, therefore I'm a shill for the government by planting disinfo, etc.
The irony is, most of the CT sites are blocked from my work PC. So not is my government not sending me to shill for them on CT sights, they are actively stopping me from doing so.

Mr. Skinny
31st August 2006, 12:46 PM
The irony is, most of the CT sites are blocked from my work PC. So not is my government not sending me to shill for them on CT sights, they are actively stopping me from doing so.
I can see the LC forum at work (for now), but I can't post to any site from work.

I'm off today, so my post doesn't show up in "Government Shill 10 pt. font" like yours, brodski. That's how I tell your shilling from your "normal" posts. :D

Edit: see post #14 vs. post #21 to see what I mean. The shill already knows what I mean.

Mr. Skinny
31st August 2006, 12:47 PM
Wow. That's embarassing. Obviously, I didn't look past that first page. I thought that the Google hit said James Randi, but clearly I was wrong. Sorry for the sensationalism. :o
noob :p

brodski
31st August 2006, 12:49 PM
I can see the LC forum at work (for now), but I can't post to any site from work.

I'm off today, so my post doesn't show up in "Government Shill 10 pt. font" like yours, brodski. That's how I tell your shilling from your "normal" posts. :D Regulations need to be followed, old boy. ;)

Mr. Skinny
31st August 2006, 12:56 PM
Regulations need to be followed, old boy. ;)
Quite true.

New World Order Instruction (NWOI) 17.666 para. 5.4.11 b.) spells it out clearly.

Edit: It's NWOI 17-666, not 17.666. Don't know what I was thinking.

Arkan_Wolfshade
31st August 2006, 02:56 PM
I'm not an employee of the government, but I am friends with an NSA employee and my great grandfather was a Mason; I think that makes me guilty by proxy.

Alareth
1st September 2006, 03:34 AM
I work for RadioShack. I'm a cellular phone industry shill.

Orphia Nay
1st September 2006, 11:29 PM
Yep, I've been called a shill (I had no idea what they meant at the time) by one CTist and been told I must be getting paid to say what I have said by another - they must have spies onto me (;)) - though I've never mentioned it, I work for a state government, in the field of justice, and my father was a mason. I'm sure that's shilly enough for the CTists. Don't tell any of them, or I'll have to kill them!!!! :D