US blahblahblah FACIST blahblahblah

[Mr Manifesto]

This thread's been done a million times before. But THIS time I have conclusive proof that the US IS FACIST!

It's in the form of a list, the person who complied the list has the title 'Dr', and he's looked at four facist countries. So no one can refute this damnable evidence.

If you are American, first prepare yourself for the realisation you are facist before clicking here (http://www.aladdin.com/#fascism).


But seriously, folks, any comments? I think America is facist, but I freely admit that's my own bigoted opinion. ;)

[Dancing David]

uh, no... but thanks for the post. I don't think that our nation excels at those things. I think we support too many facist governments.

[Malachi151]

Of course America is fascist, I've been saying it for 2 years, with proof.

[Mr Manifesto]

Ha! Bet you're reeling after that crushing rebuttal from Malachi151, DD. No matter what argument you present, a searing counter-argument is waiting to attack, because the truth is that America is facist.

[Malachi151]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
Ha! Bet you're reeling after that crushing rebuttal from Malachi151, DD. No matter what argument you present, a searing counter-argument is waiting to attack, because the truth is that America is facist.

LOL

[Malachi151]

To be fair, many Americans dont recognize the country as fascist because they have been lied to for 50 years about what fascism really is. Because of the fact that fascists came to power quickly in America after war they did not correctly portray fascism to Americans, becuase obviously they would be pointing fingers at themselves for being fascist.

So, most Americans really don't understand fascism in the first place, and we have been living with elements of fascism for generations so it seems somewhat nromal to most people.

The adding of "uder God" to the pledge, and the addoption of "In God We Trust" in the 1950s were fascist actions by our country. Most Americans don't consider it as such, just like most Germans didn't consider anything wrong with the use of "God be with us" as a German motto and all of the religious crap that Hitler was doing wrong either. Nor did they conside3r all teh volenteer programs that Hitler advacted to be wrong, they were something to be "proud of". Just as today there is a strong new push for volenteering, Buhs has even created a new volenteer organization. Volenteering is as element of national brainwashing and and getting people to do work for free while the wealthy reap the rewards and get out of having to pay for social programs. In addition volenteering is a way to build national loyalty. You get poeple to volenteer to do work "for America" and they then become defensive of "America", and "America" is whoever is in power, in this case Bush, and he hopes, future fascists. Its a way of building an army of loyal citizens.

These are all psychological things that were documented and expounded upon by Hitler and the Nazi regime. They were masters of social manipulation. Many fo the things that Hitler and the Nazis pinoeered and exponded upon in terms of social psychology have become elements of advertising and politcas, especially in America.

The Nazis were correct about many things.

[Dancing David]

So really, couldn't any group be accused of those things?
I would say that it is a matter of degree. In each of the fourteen points , there is a level to which that is true of the USA, but then does it rise to the level where you would say that the US is fascist. Pretty funny thought, libertarian leftist me, having this discussion with some other progressives, go figure huh?

I am afraid that unedr repeated oppresive and regressive governments we could become facist, but I don't see the goon squads breaking up the communist rallies yet.

[Mike B.]

As one of the lumpenproletariet I am easily led astray by the powers that be. I have false conscioussness because of capitalist/facist propaganda.

(Isn't it strange that I can post these things and not worry about the secret police knocking on my door to send me to a concentration camp? Our gestapo just really needs to get on the ball. ;) )

[Malachi151]

Well, I agree that this country is not extreme at all, its nothing like Nazi Germany, I'm just just are similar ideologies at work. The conditions are not the same though, and no single group has control of the American system.

[Michael Redman]

Originally posted by Malachi151
To be fair, many Americans dont recognize the country as fascist because they have been lied to for 50 years about what fascism really is. I don't recognize that this country is X, because I have been lied to about what X really is.

Fine, assuming that's true, that doesn't mean that this country is any different than we think it is, it just means that we're using the wrong word.

[aggle_rithm]

Originally posted by Malachi151
The adding of "uder God" to the pledge, and the addoption of "In God We Trust" in the 1950s were fascist actions by our country.

No, they were anti-Communist actions. It's possible to be anti-Communist without being fascist.

[aggle_rithm]

Originally posted by Mike B.

(Isn't it strange that I can post these things and not worry about the secret police knocking on my door to send me to a concentration camp? Our gestapo just really needs to get on the ball. ;) )

Sorry for the oversight. We'll be right over. ;)

[Frostbite]

Hmm it seems that list was compiled just to make a point that the US is fascist. Let's see what the dictionary says...

[peptoabysmal]

I would say that America is prone to falling into 3, 7, 9 and 13. But, not to the exclusion of anything else. And yes, another person with a PHD could refute the "evidence". BTW, there is no actual evidence of anything on this site, only a summary of this "Dr's" opinion, which is quite obviously being used by some ill-informed USA hater to validate his hatred of the USA.