JFK Conspirators murder last living witness

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Nellie Connally dies under mysterious circumstances.

It's being discussed here. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=63063)

[StoneWT]

Nellie Connally dies under mysterious circumstances.

It's being discussed here. (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=63063)


...because 80-something year old people NEVER just up and die on their own. :rolleyes:

[WildCat]

Clearly, she knew too much.

[The Central Scrutinizer]

...because 80-something year old people NEVER just up and die on their own. :rolleyes:

“She has been extremely active and vital the past few days and weeks,” Read said. “It’s a shock to all of us.”

She was the picture of health. Then she suddenly drops dead. That doesn't add up. I bet there isn't even an autopsy, because the medical examiner is in on the cover up too.

[kevin]

you mean witness in the car. the guys on the grassy knoll might still be alive.

[kc440_]

I have not heard any JFK researcher say someone murdered Nellie Connally. About the limo they all rode in Nov.22, 1963, did you know that while it was parked in the Emergency entrance to the hospital, Johnson gave the Secret Service orders to clean the limo? Photos exist to prove this. They were cleaning up a crime scene with buckets and rags. Of course, a lot of the blood remained. There was also a hole in the windshield that came from the front of the limo.

I have a DVD which shows local TV coverage at Love Field. You see Pres. Kennedy's Secret Service man beginning to jog with the car and he is called back by a superior in the following car. The man turns around and throws up his arms, as if to say what can I do? then returns to the second car. The Kennedys had no security and could have been shot right there. I think the broad gesture of throwing up his arms in defeat was made here because they had to know somewhere some camera was trained on the Kennedy limo. And they were right. I have the footage.

kc440_

[defaultdotxbe]

She was the picture of health. Then she suddenly drops dead. That doesn't add up. I bet there isn't even an autopsy, because the medical examiner is in on the cover up too.

i think thats what stoneWT was talking about, people seem in perfect helth one day then have a massive heart attack or stroke the next, it happens

[brodski]

i think thats what stoneWT was talking about, people seem in perfect helth one day then have a massive heart attack or stroke the next, it happens
I think you need to tune yourself in to Scrut's very dry sense of humour. :)

[StoneWT]

I think you need to tune yourself in to Scrut's very dry sense of humour. :)


So dry it cries dust.

[brodski]

So dry it cries dust.
yeah, about that dry. :)

[CurtC]

About the limo they all rode in Nov.22, 1963, did you know that while it was parked in the Emergency entrance to the hospital, Johnson gave the Secret Service orders to clean the limo? Photos exist to prove this. They were cleaning up a crime scene with buckets and rags.
I was going to simply accept this, but then I read to the end of your paragraph, and discovered that I need you to back up this assertion. It's believable that Johnson would do that, being a politician and not an investigator, but I need a cite.

There was also a hole in the windshield that came from the front of the limo.Seen any Alex Jones videos lately? I'll give you a hint: he's insane. The crack in the windshield didn't have a hole going through, its pattern of cracking indicated it had been hit from the inside, and there were lead fragments stuck to the glass on the inside surface. This is from contemporaneous accounts of real experts, not what someone thought he remembered seeing years later.

I have a DVD which shows local TV coverage at Love Field.
I presume this is the Alex Jones video. Did I already mention that he is insane?

[kc440_]

CurtC -- No, it is not an Alex Jones video. It's how a local Dallas TV station broke the news. You see the pantomime of the Secret Service man.

About the SS cleaning the limo, there are pictures of it. I think I have one. I've seen them on jfkresearch.com. I am no longer a member there. I can't post the picture as I do not have the copyright. If I can find one of the pictures, can I send it to your email or private message?
kc440

[CurtC]

You can always just include a link to the picture. Since you don't have 15 posts yet, leave off the "http://" part of the link.

[Jono]

She was the picture of health. Then she suddenly drops dead. That doesn't add up. I bet there isn't even an autopsy, because the medical examiner is in on the cover up too.

Hehe yes ;)

I actually had a grandfather who did just that. I didn't suspect foul-play until I found out that he was an avid defender of lumberjacks, likely snuffed out by enviromentalists, which is why I've dedicated my life to chop down trees.

[jhunter1163]

Well, she must not have been a high-priority target of teh gubmint conspiracy, because it took them 43 years (almost) to get to her. Better late than never I suppose.

[rwguinn]

She was the picture of health. Then she suddenly drops dead. That doesn't add up. I bet there isn't even an autopsy, because the medical examiner is in on the cover up too.

Anybody remember jim Fixx or Euell Gibbons?

[kc440_]

I was going to simply accept this, but then I read to the end of your paragraph, and discovered that I need you to back up this assertion. It's believable that Johnson would do that, being a politician and not an investigator, but I need a cite.

Curt, I will try to get more on the Secret Service, under instructions from Johnson, cleaning the vehicle with rags and buckets, as it stood at the ER entrance.

But I don't know why you think the footage at Love Field when the SS man was called away from the limo and no one was covering the Kennedys as insignificant. The Secret Service were guilty of leaving that car unprotected and the driver, an SS man, came to a complete stop in Dealey Plaza before Kennedy received the head shot. Then he raced forward. The stop is cut from the Zapruder Film. As a matter of fact, the Zapruder film was completely altered, as was most confiscated photographic evidence. Still, it didn't prove what it set out to prove. You see Kennedy getting the head shot from the front right (Grassy Knoll). You see there are no SS men running along side. After Kennedy got hit, Clint Hill responded. He was Jackie's SS man. But no one ran forward to assist the President.

kc440

[kc440_]

Curt, I found another site that says Johnson made the SS clean the limo. But again there was no citation. If I could find the good photo, you could see them cleaning the crime scene, basically.

kc440

[kc440_]

In Life Magazine, November 1983, pgs 55-57, there is the photo I've been talking about. There's a metal bucket by one SS man's foot. Another man is obviously cleaning the interior of the limo.

kc440

[gumboot]

JFK was assassinated by a monkey. I have video evidence. The original video was edited, but I have the master copy. It clearly shows a monkey running across the ground, leaping into the car, and biting the president in the head.

-Andrew

[Mancunian]

Central Scrutinizer,
87 year people, even if they are healthy, can die suddenly. It's called OLD AGE, you ****wit!

[sackett]

Oh man, you’ll believe ANYTHING!

Look: JFK had to be put on ice to conceal his secret affair with Elvis. I mean, picture it: Big John Kennedy, The Guy Who Stared Down Khrushchev, flouncing around his boudoir in the White House, wearing a pink fluffy peignoir and shrieking, “Oh GHOD but I’m tired of HIDING my great love away! I don’t CARE anymore, THIS honey-child is coming OH YOU TEE OUT!” It’s a late-Tennessee Williams scene, man, like decadent the way Oscar Wilde usta make it.

‘Merica in ‘63 was NOT, en oh tee NOT ready for any Flaming Elvis boolsheate. Hell, look what happened to Norma Jean Monroe. She was hip to oh-so-sweet-boy JFK, I mean like one night was enough, and with her career skidding and no brakes she was ready to blab bigtime to the ‘bloids. (She was an easy one: The Democrat machine only had to send a studly young Sec. Svc. dude around to her place with a quart of vodka and a lid of Panama Red. As soon as MM saw him on her doorstep, she screamed, “Come on in, handsome!” and he was makin’ History. Say what you want about her, The Girl Liked To Do It.)

Elvis, of course, was the Great Tool the Illuminati were counting on to Africanize America. All those little white chix wailing and getting damp knickers to the beat of Negro Music – it was working perfectly! Miscegenation rates were set to soar! Yeah, sure, Elvis didn’t much like seeing his boy-toy splattered – hell the man was pretty much human, after all – but he kept quiet. (Although they say you can date the start of his “musical” decline from just about then. Maybe; I ain’t making any wild claims; just clueing you into all this old stuff, palsy.)

What say? You need proof? How about this: Elvis was a Melungeon, that “mysterious Southern people of obscure origins.” Mysterious my achin’ nards! DNA evidence PROVES that the Melungeons are, get this, descended from Spanish and Portugese Jews!

Riiiiight, now you get it. Man, I have to send this stuff by f***in’ FREIGHT already!

[TK0001]

Central Scrutinizer,
87 year people, even if they are healthy, can die suddenly. It's called OLD AGE, you ****wit!

Can whoever's closest please kick the board's sarcasm generator? I think it's on the fritz again...

[kc440_]

I have come across a wealth of material on the Internet that says Johnson gave the order to the SS men to clean the car. But there's no citation yet. I will try to find one in Johnson's biographies. Just to keep you posted.

kc440

[Spindrift]

I have come across a wealth of material on the Internet that says Johnson gave the order to the SS men to clean the car. But there's no citation yet. I will try to find one in Johnson's biographies. Just to keep you posted.

kc440

A wealth of information on the internet?

You will need to do a bit better than that.

You could find a wealth of information on any conspiracy theory. That doesn't mean any of it is true.

[kc440_]

Check out Barr McClellan's book, "Blood, Money and Power: How LBJ killed JFK."

Even as President Kennedy's limo sat in Parkland Memorial Hospital, Johnson ordered the Secret Service and FBI agents to wash out the vehicle, destroying critical evidence of multiple gunmen; particularly bullet slivers and slugs from rifles other than Oswald's alleged weapon. Even bullet holes in the chassis which betrayed tell-tale impossible trajectories to fit the Lone Gunman were repaneled and refurbished at Johnson's orders.
Some who were allegedly provided false credentials by Johnson himself, who was in charge of security that day in Dallas. This criminal evidence tampering, which would have led to the immediate arrest of any other suspect in a similar situation, was dutifully ignored by the Warren Commission.

kc440

[calebprime]

Check out Barr McClellan's book, "Blood, Money and Power: How LBJ killed JFK."

Even as President Kennedy's limo sat in Parkland Memorial Hospital, Johnson ordered the Secret Service and FBI agents to wash out the vehicle, destroying critical evidence of multiple gunmen; particularly bullet slivers and slugs from rifles other than Oswald's alleged weapon. Even bullet holes in the chassis which betrayed tell-tale impossible trajectories to fit the Lone Gunman were repaneled and refurbished at Johnson's orders.
Some who were allegedly provided false credentials by Johnson himself, who was in charge of security that day in Dallas. This criminal evidence tampering, which would have led to the immediate arrest of any other suspect in a similar situation, was dutifully ignored by the Warren Commission.

kc440


"Some who were allegedly provided false credentials by Johnson himself, who was in charge of security that day in Dallas."

just a quibble so far. This sentence doesn't scan. So I'm not quite sure what it means. Typo?

[calebprime]

On Amazon, here's what the evil Publisher's Weekly reviewer had to say:


"McClellan's overwrought conspiracy theory claims that Lyndon Johnson-motivated by power lust, fear of being dropped from the Kennedy ticket, and the need to cover up various scandals-masterminded Kennedy's assassination with the help of his evil "superlawyer" Ed Clark. But his evidence is meager and murky, even by the standards of Kennedy conspiracy scholarship. The main exhibit is a smudged partial fingerprint from Oswald's sniper's nest that may or may not belong to a Johnson associate, depending on which fingerprint expert you ask. ... His confusingly structured, evasively argued, often nonsensical theories attest to the crime's continuing potency as a symbol of America's mythic heart of darkness." Photos.

(emphasis mine)

So why should we trust this?

[HeyLeroy]

On Amazon, here's what the evil Publisher's Weekly reviewer had to say:


"McClellan's overwrought conspiracy theory claims that Lyndon Johnson-motivated by power lust, fear of being dropped from the Kennedy ticket, and the need to cover up various scandals-masterminded Kennedy's assassination with the help of his evil "superlawyer" Ed Clark. But his evidence is meager and murky, even by the standards of Kennedy conspiracy scholarship. The main exhibit is a smudged partial fingerprint from Oswald's sniper's nest that may or may not belong to a Johnson associate, depending on which fingerprint expert you ask. ... His confusingly structured, evasively argued, often nonsensical theories attest to the crime's continuing potency as a symbol of America's mythic heart of darkness." Photos.

(emphasis mine)

So why should we trust this?


Because the evidence is 'murky' and 'weak'?:D
C'mon, would real conspirators ever leave clear evidences behind?

[kc440_]

On Amazon, here's what the evil Publisher's Weekly reviewer had to say:


"McClellan's overwrought conspiracy theory claims that Lyndon Johnson-motivated by power lust, fear of being dropped from the Kennedy ticket, and the need to cover up various scandals-masterminded Kennedy's assassination with the help of his evil "superlawyer" Ed Clark. But his evidence is meager and murky, even by the standards of Kennedy conspiracy scholarship. The main exhibit is a smudged partial fingerprint from Oswald's sniper's nest that may or may not belong to a Johnson associate, depending on which fingerprint expert you ask. ... His confusingly structured, evasively argued, often nonsensical theories attest to the crime's continuing potency as a symbol of America's mythic heart of darkness." Photos.

(emphasis mine)

So why should we trust this?

The man worked with Johnson. I don't think he wanted to die with the knowledge he had, which could help others understand the crime. Johnson wasn't the thick old biddie people thought he was. In my estimation, he was a manic-depressive. But there is another investigation into LBJ. One of the episodes of The Men Who Killed Kennedy was shown on the History Channel once, and Hollywood Guy, Jack Valenti, was crying for a lawsuit. The episode might be called "The Guilty Men."

kc440

[shelley]

The CIA, Secret Service, a monkey, all plausible explanations. But has anyone considered the FBI, (Famous for ******** and Innuendo), as the villan in this saga.

JFK, was a visionary, a man that saw a different future to the old crusty ones, a man that was not afraid to push the envelope a bit further, a man that would not be told what to do by the centrally organised hidden power structure of the United States, Cuba being a perfect example.

In my humble knowledge, doesnt the FBI have access to all itineries, travel routes etc of dignitries. And did it have the public persona that it has today?

A quiet velvet glove maybe?????