Open letter to Dylan, Jason, Korey, Eric and the Conspiracy believer

[Oliver]

Hello everybody,

first of all i have to excuse myself for my average
english skills. My Name is Oliver, i´m 33 years old,
i´m roman catholic and i live in Germany.

_________________________________________

Dear Louder Than Words Production, dear Eric
Hufschmid, dear Conspiracy believers.

I started to do my own research, watched all videos
that i could fint, signed in to the LC-Forum and at
the James Randy Forum, listened to all evidence,
read hundreds of websites, emailed Louder than
Words, emailed Eric Hufschmid and some other,
less known peole who published rumours about 911.

This - Gentlemen - is my conclusion:

You made a lot of errors in your movies and books.
A lot of things don´t sum up after some own research.
But do you rethink your errors? - If, then just the most
obvious.

Seeking the truth:

After posting a link to a video about the hijackers
last words, wich had some visible debunkers in it,
a forum-admin deleted the thread and blocked my
account within the LC-Forum. Hoewer - now i´m
really able to talk free.

The agenda of some CT´s is, that aliens, the illuminati,
and/or the zionists have controll over everything, that
they can´t catch with their ignorant brains.

Some of these guys tried to tell me, that even the
holocaust was a fake and i demonstrate them the
oppisite: (i´m not able to post links in here)

Their reaction?

"I never claimed to have done a lot of research into
World War II. I only have a few remarks about it on
my web site. I don't really see the point in arguing
with it, either."

And:

"I don´t have the time to watch your given links" (Videos)

So these are your reasons to tell this **** to other people?

The victims:

After realizing what they must feel with all these speculations,
i really hope that some CT´s are men enough to apologize to
these people after waking up. And i also hope that the CT´s
won´t fall to deep.

The real world:

If you try to talk to CT´s about real stuff like international
politics or stuff like deploited uranium and the consequences,
they shut their mouths, because it´s something that does
not exist in ther world. "and what the hell does this has
to to with the aliens that rule the world?".

The debunkers:

Like the LC-Forum, i also have to thank you for your work,
even if some guys within the "debunking-movement" don´t
look better than some of the other side.

I´m happy to find my conclusion, thank you guys for getting
me thru of this very faster.

ground zero:

I really can´t wait to see what´s happening on 9/11/06
I hope some guys out there will wake up.

Regards,
Oliver

_________________________________________________

PS: I´m pissed - that´s why i post this artice in here.
Other CT´s shall see what´s happening to them if they
start to ask the proofable truth, other CT´s can´t accept.

Some People out there who are straight enough to post
this to the Loose Change Forum? Then you will see what
i´m talking about in here... :crowded:

[T.A.M.]

Welcome to the JREF forum Oliver. While the debate here can be fierce, everyone here is willing to hear you out, no matter what your belief. That said, if you make a claim that someone feels has little evidence to back it, they will call you on.

If you are looking for REAL EVIDENCE about the truth of 9/11, have a look around this site, as well as Screw Loose Change Blog, 9/11 Myths, and many other sites you will find listed amongst the threads here.

TAM

[jhunter1163]

Welcome to the forum Oliver. I'm fairly new here myself and have to say that I've been treated fairly. My small contributions have been examined closely and I've had some lively, but open-minded, discussions. I'll repeat what TAM said.. anything you say here will be judged on its merits, so be ready to back up your position with evidence.

Again, welcome. I think you'll like it here.

John

[Oliver]

Thank you for your heartily welcome,

i hope to be able to talk really free in here,
even if i use to talk not very often because
my average english skills.

I try my best to train my skills. :">

Thank you very much,

Oliver :)

[Ducky]

Willkommen zum Forum! Ich hoffe, viele gute Gespräche mit Ihnen zu haben. Ihre Suche nach Wahrheit und Beweis wird durch viele hier geteilt. Sprechendes Englisch ist nicht zu wichtig, wie die meisten uns, die Englisch gebürtig noch sprechen, Mühe haben. Bilden Sie sich zu Hause, mein Freund.


Cheers.

(I hope I got that right...or at least understandable. It has been many years since I took German.)



-Ducky

[Oliver]

Vielen lieben Dank, Ducky. :)

Es ist mir ebenfalls eine Freude, euch und
das Forum hier gefunden zu haben. Darum
freue ich mich schon auf kreative und offene
Diskussionen über die Welt der Verschwörungen.

> (I hope I got that right...or at least understandable.
> It has been many years since I took German.)

I had no problem to read your Message, Ducky.
You really should keep your skills alive, too. :)

Viele liebe Grüße,
Oliver

[MortFurd]

Hallo, Oliver.
Herzlich Willkommen im JREF Forum!
Wer Wahrheit sucht und die Arbeit nicht scheut, findet hier viel Unterstuetzung und Akzeptance. Meinungen sind immer Willkommen, aber mann wird oft dazu aufgefordert sie zu rechtfertigen. Fakten und Ehrlichkeit sind die Grundsteine auf die hier gebaut wird.

Unwissende werden freundlich aufgeklaert, und Dumbatzen werden verbal abgewatscht.

Viel Spass beim lernen, austauschen, und verbalen Ohrfeigen verteilen wuenscht dir MortFurd.


PS:
Wo wohnen Sie? Wie Sie meine Standort angabe (Location unterm Name) entnehmen koennen wohne ich auch in Deutschland. Sind Sie vielleicht in der Naehe von Bad Kreuznach oder Kaiserslautern?

[Oliver]

Hello, MortFurd.

Thank you for your reception. I live somewhere
between Kaiserslautern and Bad Kreuznach, near
Trier. You should know this town, don´t you?

Where do you live and do you serve in the military
to live in germany?

Regards,
Oliver

[MortFurd]

I live in Meisenheim, and I'm not in the military - at least not any more. I left the Air Force and have been a civilian since 1991.

[Hellbound]

I did a few weeks of training at BK back in '94. I was military, stationed in Hanau from '94 to '97.

Don't remember much German, though, just a few basic phrases. Mostly all I needed to remember was "Ein bier, bitte" :D

[Soapy Sam]

Ich auch! Eine grosses Dunkelsbier, bitte!
Wilkommen , Oliver.

[MortFurd]

I did a few weeks of training at BK back in '94. I was military, stationed in Hanau from '94 to '97.

Don't remember much German, though, just a few basic phrases. Mostly all I needed to remember was "Ein bier, bitte" :D
Right.
Huntsman's location:
Wandering the Earth, righting wrongs and drinking beer...well, drinking beer.

[Oliver]

:D I still wonder that everyone i met who visited
germany or lived here talks about the german
beer or "Hefeweizen".

Is it really that good? I still don´t drink it very
much. I rather prefer a good old whiskey from
time to time.

Is´nt it wryly?

Regards,
Oliver

[MortFurd]

:D I still wonder that everyone i met who visited
germany or lived here talks about the german
beer or "Hefeweizen".

Is it really that good? I still don´t drink it very
much. I rather prefer a good old whiskey from
time to time.

Is´nt it wryly?

Regards,
Oliver
I don't drink beer, German or American or from anywhere else. My usual phrase for it a amounts to "yeast piss." (Hefepisse.)

A waste of otherwise useful grain and water.

I have yet to meet anyone who says that their first beer tasted good. It's always "you get used to it, and then you start to like it." Why would I want to drink something I've got to get acclimated to first?

[Oliver]

I agree - for me it tastes like "Hefepisse", too.
I guess this may be the reason for a lot of people
for loving it.

> I have yet to meet anyone who says that their first
> beer tasted good

It´s like the first sex or cigarettes - you have to ease
into it before you love it. :-D

Well, you probably need a littlebit more time for
cigarettes and beer.

[Moochie]

I agree - for me it tastes like "Hefepisse", too.
I guess this may be the reason for a lot of people
for loving it.

> I have yet to meet anyone who says that their first
> beer tasted good

It´s like the first sex or cigarettes - you have to ease
into it before you love it. :-D

Well, you probably need a littlebit more time for
cigarettes and beer.

Um, er, are you actually German, Oliver? Isn't not liking beer almost treasonous?

I'm German-born but now Australian -- two nations with a great beer-drinking tradition. :)

Oh, and Welcome, too.

M.

[Oliver]

Um, er, are you actually German, Oliver? Isn't not liking beer almost treasonous?

I'm German-born but now Australian -- two nations with a great beer-drinking tradition. :)

Oh, and Welcome, too.

M.

Thank you, M.uchie,

if you tell this to somebody in a pub - they will
look at you the same way like if they just saw an
100 year old man doing breakdance in front of them,
but after a while they accept this - even if they don´t
get it.

But for usual locations, most of the people use to
drink wine, "alcopops" (mix-drinks), long-drinks, beer,
whiskey, cola-beer and so on - referring to alcohol.

Sprichst du denn ein wenig Deutsch?

Regards,
Oliver

BTW: What´s the english word for "Weizenbier - Hefeweizen"?

[brodski]

BTW: What´s the english word for "Weizenbier - Hefeweizen"?

The closest is "wheat beer", but as the English speaking world doesn't really have a tradition of top fermented wheat beers, we generally don't have a word for it.

[Moochie]

Sprichst du denn ein wenig Deutsch?


I can read and speak conversationally, but writing, no.

I did nearly all my schooling in Australia.

Cheers,

M.

[Oliver]

This is a big shame - nearly a scandal, isn´t it?
I really enjoy it´s non-bitter taste in reference
to "ordinary" beer. :-D

You really should give it a try. I also felt unsure
about writing in english after some years without
doing it very often. But i get better from message
to message.

[Bradk3]

I took two years of High School German, but Ich habe es vergessen, sadly.

I do remember always tittering guiltily at the word "bleistifte" for some reason.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

The closest is "wheat beer", but as the English speaking world doesn't really have a tradition of top fermented wheat beers, we generally don't have a word for it.

Usually unfiltered as well.

[Oliver]

I took two years of High School German, but Ich habe es vergessen, sadly.

I do remember always tittering guiltily at the word "bleistifte" for some reason.

Sorry, i had to laugh loudly about the "Bleistifte".
Why did you titter about this - or should i ask,
what on gods green earth did u do with these
during your german-lessons-period? :D

[Bradk3]

Sorry, i had to laugh loudly about the "Bleistifte".
Why did you titter about this - or should i ask,
I don't really know. At the time, I thought it just sounded dirty somehow. Keep in mind, I was 16 years old or so. Everything sounds dirty at that age.

what on gods green earth did u do with these
during your german-lessons-period? :D
In the interest of decency and tastefullness, I refuse to answer.

Hehe... Bleistifte... hehe...

[Oliver]

Everything sounds dirty at that age.

I know what you´re talking about - even if i don´t
remind the words i used to giggle at.

In the interest of decency and tastefullness, I refuse to answer.

In Germany we use to say: "Dazu sage ich nichts ohne
meinen Anwalt", wich means: At first i've got to consult
my lawyer.

[Beleth]

Two years of high school German here too.

I know "Ausgezeichnet!" and not to eat or drink anything labeled GIFT. But other than that...

Welcome, Oliver!

[Oliver]

Oliver I'm being nice so let's not play games here. First, your agenda here is questioned by things you have said over on the JREFs forums. Next I replied in the "screw loose change" thread. Look at my last reply there. Do you think I didn't notice when abergeen left you all of a sudden showed up and posted in the thread how funny it was. In that very thread you gave yourself away. So once again I'm being nice and warning you. You do what you want. I will pass your feelings about being ban and how it can' happen on to the other admins. You control what happens to you.

Well, i tell you what my agenda here is.

My agenda after being confused for a while about all the
things Loose Change said, my intention is to find the truth.
And if you are honest, you already know that the real truth
is not amusing for all the MIHOP´ers.

If the old forum would have been honest and answered
all my questions instead banning me without reason - like
the suspension without reason 3 days ago, i already had
left the CT-Scene, but i can not agree with all the intentional
lie-spreading and the behavior of the Lie-Movement.

It got a personal thing because i feel being used and fooled.

The old forum couldn´t stop me and i was a big part of the
controlled demolition of it. That intention in here is not the
same because the attemp to be more open-minded.

But if this will change again, i will return to the fight for truth
on the front. I never lied to honest people and i never started
personal attacks without reason - and i never used profanity
to others.

It´s your choice on which side you fight. For truth or for lies -
that´s what you´re about at this moment, IVXX. And i don´t
like the us-foreign policy, their lies and especially the iraq
war as less then most in here do, but i will defend the Gov
against all lies if necessary.

You can´t stop me if i start to fight again for truth and progress
to the issue, so i´m more than nice to you right now.

Oliver


It was the movie that Louder than Words spread all
over the net that brought most people to this forum.

It was Loose Change that made all of us sceptic and
made us curious about what happpend on 9/11.

It was that movie that brought up many questions we
want to know since we saw the movie.

Many were banned from the old forum because they
had honest question that don´t agree with the movies
statements.

Dylan has no clue how to handle the situation he created
with this movie. He is not able to handle the questions he
brought up if you ask me.

He makes a lot of people look stupid and Korey even said
that there are many errors within the movie but it does not
matter. How responsible is such a behavior? They made
errors, they intentionally let the errors in and if people are
confused, they ban or suspend people for the confusion
they made?

I beliefe that many will wake up someday and think: What
a sad waste of time it was to fight for a lie. Yet LTW does
not care - it´s too lucrative to think about the consequences
of lies.

"Meant as a fictional movie." And it still is
Searching for truth? Dream on.

Oliver

[The Almond]

So you've been banned for disagreeing, politely, with the CTists? Pathetic. The people who espouse free speech and asking questions cannot stand to have people ask questions about them.

[Oliver]

So you've been banned for disagreeing, politely, with the CTists? Pathetic. The people who espouse free speech and asking questions cannot stand to have people ask questions about them.

They confuse the people with their movie, they
admit that they are lying and they admit that they
intentionally donn´t fix the errors. And they ban
people for the questions they brought up.

Nice, eh? :rolleyes:

[Almo]

They confuse the people with their movie, they
admit that they are lying and they admit that they
intentionally donn´t fix the errors. And they ban
people for the questions they brought up.

Nice, eh? :rolleyes:

I got banned not even for really questioning. I asked mild things like "Just because they disagree, does that mean we can't learn from them?" They found out I was a member here and banned me.

[Oliver]

I got banned not even for really questioning. I asked mild things like "Just because they disagree, does that mean we can't learn from them?" They found out I was a member here and banned me.

WTF??? :eek: You´re a JREF´ER??? :mad: Shame on you! :D

Well, at least there are more honest people in here and
straight rules - no matter what you believe as long you
keep the rules...

[Donal]

And I'm off the boards. Don't know if I was banned or just suspended. No mention of it. I just went to the boards after my last rant at Russel and I couldn't log in.

[Oliver]

And I'm off the boards. Don't know if I was banned or just suspended. No mention of it. I just went to the boards after my last rant at Russel and I couldn't log in.

Well, let´s see....

QUOTE (shecky @ Nov 17 2006, 02:54 PM)
So, now you are suspending people for calling out the film makers who have admited to putting misinformation in their films?

that was a stupid statement on Korey's part, and I'll thank you to stop pushing that as proof.

in fact, asta la vista.

Were you Shecky over there? If so, i guess asta la vista
was meant to you. :boggled:

[uk_dave]

I don't participate on the LC forum because I just couldn't bear the thought of being banned.

I mean, what would my mother say?

[realitybites]

I just got banned over there as well. I think it's because I called Avery out for suggesting the FBI was stalking Bermas because it sounded more sinister and threatening than the possibility of the IP belonging to an alum of the fraternity Jason was in.

No warning though. Shocking.

edit: If anyone here is still able to read the forum over there, I'd like to see if these bannings have been addressed or not by the mods.

[Donal]

Yes, I was shecky. Where's my badge?

Kind of funny he leaves that little message for me when I'm not supposed to be able to read it. And he missed the h in hasta.

[Oliver]

*lol* Yeah, you´re right! We need the "Banned from
the new Loose Lies Forum!" NOW! :D

Did someone see Shrinker?

[The Almond]

And he missed the h in hasta.

Seriously, I'm no master linguist, but even I know there's an h in hasta. Man Dylan Avery is dumb.

[Donal]

And the SUNY system has a language requirement for their courses that aren't hard sciences. Atleast, they did when I was in it.

[maccy]

Seriously, I'm no master linguist, but even I know there's an h in hasta. Man Dylan Avery is dumb.

No! You're the one who's stupid! You're just one of the sheeple that believes the official version of so-called written Spanish. The evidence clearly shows that asta doesn't have an 'h' in it! I mean, what does it sound like to you? Use your ears for pete's sake, don't just blindly trust the government line. Have you even seen Terminator 2?

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Didn't take them long to revert to their old ways. Leopard and his spots, and what not.

[The Almond]

No! You're the one who's stupid!

Ad homenim pro speculum! You Troofers are all the same! Attack the person and not the argument!

You're just one of the sheeple that believes the official version of so-called written Spanish.

Me and 500,000 million of my closest friends disagree with you. Would you like me to post 7000 wikipedia references or are you willing to submit to overwhelming evidence to the contrary?

The evidence clearly shows that asta doesn't have an 'h' in it! I mean, what does it sound like to you?

ARRRGGHH! You can't use circular reasoning! Ad carpum pro ire itum!

Use your ears for pete's sake, don't just blindly trust the government line. Have you even seen Terminator 2?
Red herring! Have you ever heard Gov. Schwarzenagger speak in public? He can't pronounce "th" properly!

[maccy]

some stuff I can't be bothered with

None of your fancy shill Latin and imaginary friends will convince me!!!

I know what I heard with my own ears!

Anyway, most of Wikipedia is written by Government Agents!!!!!!

Oh and Arnie wasn't on a platform, he was in a film, obviously that's different!

------

Stupidity is such hard work :)

I give up....

Anyway, Russell has spoken:

Dylan,

I agree.

I have PM'd the admins this morning.

The banning of the people who have consistently refused to fit in starts today.

We began with Mayr/Oliver.

If somebody is surrounding themselves with trouble every day, no matter what side of the fence you are on, you will not be welcome here.

We have given it long enough to determine who is a positive contributor and who is not.

Russell

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=888&view=findpost&p=9206766

PD'oh's response is a classic:

Russell I warn you that mayr will keep getting socks until half of germany is banned. I dont know how you can prevent that

:D

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Heh, "shill Latin". Gotta remember that one.

[chipmunk stew]

Anyway, Russell has spoken:
The banning of the people who have consistently refused to fit in starts today.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=888&view=findpost&p=9206766
Power to the people.

[Oliver]

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=888&view=findpost&p=9206766

PD'oh's response is a classic:
:D

*lol* It´s even more classic because PDoherty is a
sock puppet from me, too... Muhawawawawaw... :D :p

[maccy]

Power to the people.

It seems that no-planers don't fit in either:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=880

I'm beginning to think that every aspect of the "Truth" movement can be described by reference to Monty Python.

iiaa6BTzrh8

[Oliver]

It seems that no-planers don't fit in either:

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=880

I'm beginning to think that every aspect of the "Truth" movement can be described by reference to Monty Python.

iiaa6BTzrh8

They are in panic-mode right now. I mean with all the
GOV/FBI/DIA/CIA/ILLUMINATI/UFO-agents around there
i am not wondering at all... :rolleyes:

[Horatius]

Attack the person and not the argument!


Well, okay, if you insist. Splitter!

[Horatius]

So, Oliver, were you using socks over there, or was that just their own paranoia?

And isn't it amusing to see PD'oh complaining about other people using socks to spread confusion?

[Oliver]

So, Oliver, were you using socks over there, or was that just their own paranoia?

And isn't it amusing to see PD'oh complaining about other people using socks to spread confusion?

It´s just paranoia - i guess. :D All the 40 socks over
there are from PDoherty ---- and his *ehm* "friends"... :D

[T.A.M.]

Some how I am not surprised. As much as I had alot of optimism about Russ coming over here and posting, I can see that he has chosen his side, and his method, and this is a shame...oh well.

TAM

[uk_dave]

This almost brought a tear to my eye......

Russell Pickering:
Dylan is aware of the request for appearance changes in the forum. He is going to work on it based on the input you have offered. Like everything, it may not perfectly please everybody but it will be a nice improvement. We sometimes forget how busy he is and need to be patient.

We are aware of the good people here and want to give you what you need.

Thank you,
RussellLittle Dylan Avery:
thank u russ.Russell Pickering:
You're welcome "Leader of the Pack".Little Dylan Avery:
ahaha. that's more of a joke. i had the song running through my head, and it made me smile, so I typed it. i'm just another drop in the ocean. :DRussell Pickering:
I'm Dust in the Wind.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=915

I'm choking up again........ and all we have is Gravy.... :sour:

[Oliver]

Russel updated the LC-Forum-Rules:

The forum rules have been changed to remain consistent with actual policy. Please remember we are in a growth phase and things will be modified as required.

Several people had good points about an apparent inconsistency in the rules in contrast to the removal of certain participants.

The KEY here is that these forums are privately owned. Restaurants, stores, libraries and every other arena of life operate on the preferences of the owners. This forum is no different.

The owners of this forum have created a goal of having a place where people can consider the facts of 9/11 in light of research and discussion. It is a place primarily designed for people who question the official story.

Always remember that participation here is voluntary and is regarded as a privilege.

The Loose Change Forums are a place for the intelligent, respectful exchange of ideas.

Certain theories perceived as extreme and divisive will be moderated at the discretion of the administration.

This is a privately owned forum and the administration reserves the right to restrict the participation of any user that is deemed disruptive for any reason.

Please take a minute to read the Invision rules which we are also subject to in detail.

Thank you.

[Horatius]

This almost brought a tear to my eye......

Russell Pickering:
Little Dylan Avery:
Russell Pickering:
Little Dylan Avery:
Russell Pickering:


http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=915

I'm choking up again........ and all we have is Gravy.... :sour:

Awwww.....I think they're in Love.....:blush: :boxedin:

[PerryLogan]

RUN, Oliver!

As you can see by now, they're all like--crazy here! They are all brainwashed sheeple and government ops cleverly disguised as intrepid debunkers.

I'm trapped here. Do you know a way out?

[uk_dave]

RUN, Oliver!

As you can see by now, they're all like--crazy here! They are all brainwashed sheeple and government ops.

I'm trapped here. Do you know a way out?

Once you join the gravy train....you're on it for life! :dewink:

[Oliver]

RUN, Oliver!

As you can see by now, they're all like--crazy here! They are all brainwashed sheeple and government ops.

I'm trapped here. Do you know a way out?

*lol* I´m trapped, too. Let´s ask PDoh and his puppets,
they all found a way out... :D

[Oliver]

Once you join the gravy train....you're on it for life! :dewink:

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! :D

UZWRM41MByk

[uk_dave]

That was ......BRILLIANT!!

LOL

[Oliver]

That was ......BRILLIANT!!

LOL

*LOL* :D It´s not as good as the python´s and the
NWO but i love this video nevertheless... :D

[jhunter1163]

Posted by Russell Pickering:

Certain theories perceived as extreme and divisive will be moderated at the discretion of the administration.

Translation:

You better toe the party line, or else you're outta here in two shakes of the proverbial lamb's tail.

I love the smell of fascism in the morning.

[DanKirby]

History repeating itself once again, eh?

[Oliver]

Well...To say it in PDoherty´s words:

THEY BANNED ME BECAUSE I WAS DESTROYING THEM!!!!
ALL OF THEM!!! ...MUHAWAWAWAWAW :D

[Dog Town]

Got banned today as well. Just for asking about thw FBI Bermass BS. Started a thread about it, Dylan even answered, sort of, then POOF! Gone, me and the thread. Fcuk'em! First,and last time at bat over there, had some time today to laugh at the loons. Bwahahahahaha!

[Oliver]

By the way: I just saw the most intelligent thread
within a CT-Board ever.....ever.

A very sly denial started a thread about the CT´s
and their fallacies - and PDoherty "philosophizes"
about the genetic evolution... :D

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=872

[uk_dave]

Structural Engineer Dylan Avery has a question.....

NIST's own study of the collapses does not even explain how the ENTIRE building was pulverized. They simply make a blanket statement that once the collapse initiates, it leads to total collapse.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=961

hmmmmmm the ENTIRE building was pulverized? Must have been an easy clean up in that case. No big lumps of debris to move, just a pulverized structure that could be scooped up in the bucket of an excavator.

And NIST only makes a 'blanket statement' about the collapse initiation? Well what the F were they supposed to do?

Joe Public: Hey, Mr NIST, we saw a plane fly into the wtc tower and it caught light, but why did it collapse?

Mr NIST: Well little fella, a plane flew into the tower and it caught light.

Joe Public : Yeah, but how?

Mr Nist : Ohhhh ok, sorry...I see what you mean...you want me to explain EXACTLY what damage was caused to make it col..

Joe Public : No No, I want to know why it collapsed.

Mr NIST : Hmmmmmm...interesting. Well a plane flew into the building taking out several of the sup....

Joe Public : No NO NOOOOOOOOO! I WANT to know why the tower collapsed.

Mr NIST : Gravity

Joe Public : What's that then?

Mr NIST : Goodbye

[Alt+F4]

By the way: I just saw the most intelligent thread
within a CT-Board ever.....ever.

A very sly denial started a thread about the CT´s
and their fallacies - and PDoherty "philosophizes"
about the genetic evolution... :D

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=872

He keeps asking for "proof of 911 that would stand up in court" yet this moron obviously missed the 1,202 pieces of (online) evidence in the Moussaoui trial that....you guessed it....resulted in a 9/11 conviction!

[Horatius]

He keeps asking for "proof of 911 that would stand up in court" yet this moron obviously missed the 1,202 pieces of (online) evidence in the Moussaoui trial that....you guessed it....resulted in a 9/11 conviction!

I was thinking of commenting on that myself.

What I love is how PD'oh completely misses the whole point of the conversation. It's like these guys simply can't think in an abstract manner.

"Analogies? Comparisons? Whaaa? Trying to learn things from contemplation? Where's the video?"

[Alt+F4]

What I love is how PD'oh completely misses the whole point of the conversation. It's like these guys simply can't think in an abstract manner.

That's what happens when you're angry all the time.

[Oliver]

Well, at least PDoh is a funny clown. Is someone able to sum
up his opinions? I mean he thinks that a plane DID hit the
Pentagon but he nevertheless thinks there were controlled
demolitions... :rolleyes:

[DanKirby]

Well, at least PDoh is a funny clown. Is someone able to sum
up his opinions? I mean he thinks that a plane DID hit the
Pentagon but he nevertheless thinks there were controlled
demolitions... :rolleyes:

I figure he's in with Russell and the "remote-controlled planes" theory, or whatever it is.

[Oliver]

I figure he's in with Russell and the "remote-controlled planes" theory, or whatever it is.

I don´t know how someone responsible can even think
about controlled planes and therefore faked voice-recordings.
And it´s very hard to see what PDoh is about within all his
witch-hunts - but he seems to be obsessed with JFK...







...and he knows nothing about evolution... :D