All girl muslim prom

[Ed]

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/09/national/09PROM.html


I guess only white folks can't have one. Dare I also say an all girl all muslim prom. Let the excuses begin.

[Tony]

Can you elaborate and post some excerpts from the article?

[BillyTK]

It's a gender issue, not a race one? This is a culture which severly regulates the activities of its young women, so they have to organise their own (gender-segregated) prom.

From the article:
It is a spirited response to religious and cultural beliefs that forbid dating, dancing with or touching boys or appearing without a hijab, the Islamic head scarf. While Ms. Haque and her Muslim friends do most things other teenagers do — shopping for shoes at Macy's, watching "The Matrix Reloaded" at the mall or ordering Jumbo Jack burgers and curly fries at Jack in the Box — an essential ingredient of the American prom, boys, is off limits. So they decided to do something about it.

[Tony]

Sans lesbians, I dont see how you can have an all girls prom. Do the girls rent limos, buy nice dresses, go out to eat at nice places and dance with each other?

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Tony
Sans lesbians, I dont see how you can have an all girls prom.
:eek: :confused:
Do the girls rent limos, buy nice dresses, go out to eat at nice places and dance with each other?
Tony--aren't you able to access the article? Here's a clip that might help explain the situation:
Ms. Haque, who will attend the University of California at Berkeley in the fall, is one of a growing number of young Muslim women who have adopted the covering their mothers rejected. Islamic dress, worn after puberty, often accompanies a commitment not to date or to engage in activities where genders intermingle.
[My emphasis]

[Tony]

Originally posted by BillyTK



Tony--aren't you able to access the article? Here's a clip that might help explain the situation:



No, I need to be registered.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Tony


No, I need to be registered.
Okey doke. i forgot about that part... registration's free, though.

[RedCoat]

Maybe I've missed something, but this seems to entirely defeat the purpose of having a prom.

I must ask what to me is an obvious question, and beg forgiveness for my obvious ignorance of this particular culture: if Muslim women can't date or "intermingle" with men, what exactly leads up to a Muslim marriage?

[Ed]

The other issue is that no mention is made of non-muslim girls attending. Ah...diversity at work.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by RedCoat
Maybe I've missed something, but this seems to entirely defeat the purpose of having a prom.

I must ask what to me is an obvious question, and beg forgiveness for my obvious ignorance of this particular culture: if Muslim women can't date or "intermingle" with men, what exactly leads up to a Muslim marriage?
Arranged marriage (http://islam.about.com/blcourtship.htm).

Originally posted by Ed
The other issue is that no mention is made of non-muslim girls attending. Ah...diversity at work.
This isn't even an issue; the muslim girls rented a room at the local community centre to have their prom. On that basis alone they're entitled to invite or exclude whoever they want.

[Number Six]

This gets into exactly what the definition of "prom" is. I would have thought that the notion of a prom was inseperable from a pairing up of some sort. Some people go stag to the prom but if it's forbidden for pairing up (in a romantic relationship sense) then can the event really be called a "prom?" I think some other word should apply to such a gathering.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Number Six
I think some other word should apply to such a gathering.


How about "Fanatic Frigid Female Get-together"?

[Fade]

The rented room at a community center here was filled with the sounds of the rapper 50 Cent, Arabic pop music, Britney Spears and about two dozen girls, including some non-Muslim friends. But when the sun went down, the music stopped temporarily, the silken gowns disappeared beneath full-length robes, and the Muslims in the room faced toward Mecca to pray. Then it was time for spaghetti and lasagna.

That's all that I needed to hear. They rent a room. They do what they want. End of story.

[Michael Redman]

How dissapointing. I entirely misread the title to this thread.

[Nasarius]

Originally posted by Michael Redman
How dissapointing. I entirely misread the title to this thread.

Yeah, so did I :D

[JAR]

I don't see what's wrong with this "Muslim women not being scantily clad" thing. As long as there not being forced to do it, it's okay in my opinion.

It makes adultery and pre-marital or pre-cohabitational(to cohabitate is to have a life-long, if possible, marriage-like relation without an official marriage) sexual relations less likely.

And adultery is one of the worst things a married person can do, especially if it's the wife who's doing it. When she does that, she's at risk of being impregnated by the man who isn't her husband.