We Are The Victims Of An Education Conspiracy

[Christophera]

All of us suffer from an imposed ignorance depriving us of untold knowledge. I knew this was true long before I read this a few weeks ago for the first time.

Long read but very well worth it.

The Hidden Agenda
http://www.realityzone.com/hiddenagenda2.html

NORMAN DODD: Rowan Gaither was at that time president of the Ford Foundation. Mr. Gaither had sent for me when I found it convenient to be in New York, asked me to call upon him at his office, which I did, and on arrival after a few amenities, Mr. Gaither said: ¯Mr. Dodd, we've asked you to come up here today because we thought that possibly, off the record, you would tell us why the Congress is interested in the activities of the foundations such as ourselves. ˜ Before I could think of how I would reply to that statement, Mr. Gaither then went on and said: ¯Mr. Dodd, all of us who have a hand in the making of policies here have had experience operating under directives, the substance of which is that we shall use our grant-making power so to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union. ˜

ANNOUNCER: Warning! You are about to enter The Reality Zone, a place where truth is stranger than fiction, where knowledge is king, where myths are shattered, and deceptions exposed. It's a place where the lessons of history are found and where true-life adventures reveal the hidden nature of man. If you proceed, you will not be able to return to the twilight zone from which you came. You have five seconds remaining to escape.

ED GRIFFIN: Welcome to The Reality Zone. I'm Ed Griffin. The story we are about to hear represents a missing piece in the puzzle of modern history. We are about to hear a man tell us that the major tax-exempt foundations of America since at least 1945 have been operating to promote a hidden agenda, and that agenda has nothing to do with the surface appearance of charity, good works, or philanthropy. This man will tell you that the real objective has been to influence American educational institutions and to control foreign policy of the federal government.
The purpose of this control has been to condition Americans to accept the creation of world government. That government is to be based on the principle of collectivism, which is another way of saying socialism, and it is to be ruled from behind the scenes by those same interests which control the tax-exempt foundations. Is this a believable scenario?
Well, the man who tells this story is none other than Mr. Norman Dodd, who in 1954 was the staff director of the Congressional Special Committee to Investigate Tax-exempt Foundations, sometimes referred to as the Reece Committee, in recognition of its chairman, Congressman Carol Reece.
The interview we are about to hear was conducted by me in 1982. I had no immediate use for the material at that time, but I realized that Mr. Dodd's story was of great importance, and since he was advanced in age and not in good health, I wanted to capture his recollections on videotape while he was still with us. It was a wise decision, because Mr. Dodd did pass away just a short time afterwards.
In later years there was a resurgence of interest in Mr. Dodd's story, and we released the videotape to the public in 1991. And so what now follows is the soundtrack taken from the full, unedited interview, broken occasionally only for a tape change or to omit the sound of a passing airplane. It stands on its own as an important piece in the puzzle of modern history.
(THE INTERVIEW FOLLOWS)

ED GRIFFIN: Mr. Dodd, let's begin this interview with a brief statement. For the record, please tell us who you are, what is your background and your qualifications to speak on this subject.

NORMAN DODD: Well, Mr. Griffin, as to who I am, I am just, as the name implies, an individual born in New Jersey and educated in private schools, eventually in a school called Andover in Massachusetts and then Yale university. Running through my whole period of being brought up and growing up, I have been an indefatigable reader. I have had one major interest, and that was this country as I was lead to believe it was originally founded.
I entered the world of business knowing absolutely nothing about how that world operated, and realized that the only way to find out what that world consisted of would be to become part of it. I then acquired some experience in the manufacturing world and then in the world of international communication and finally chose banking as the field I wished to devote my life to. I was fortunate enough to secure a position in one of the important banks in New York and lived there. I lived through the conditions which led up to what is known as the crash of 1929. I witnessed what was tantamount to the collapse of the structure of the United States as a whole. Much to my surprise, I was confronted by my superiors in the middle of the panic in which they were immersed. I was confronted with the question: ¯Norm, what do we do now? ˜ I was thirty at the time and I had no more right to have an answer to that question than the man in the moon. However, I did manage to say to my superiors: ¯Gentlemen, you take this experience as proof that there's something you do not know about banking, and you'd better go find out what that something is and act accordingly. ˜
Four days later I was confronted by the same superiors with a statement to the effect that, ¯Norm, you go find out. ˜ And I really was fool enough to accept that assignment, because it meant that you were going out to search for something, and nobody could tell you what you were looking for, but I felt so strongly on the subject that I consented. I was relieved of all normal duties inside the bank and two-and-half years later I felt that it was possible to report back to those who had given me this assignment.
And so, I rendered such a report; and, as a result of the report I rendered. I was told the following: ¯Norm, what you're saying is we should return to sound banking, ˜ and I said, ¯Yes, in essence, that's exactly what I'm saying. ˜ Whereupon I got my first shock, which was a statement from them to this effect: ¯We will never see sound banking in the United States again. ˜
They cited chapter and verse to support that statement, and what they cited was as follows: ¯Since the end of world war one we have been responsible for what they call the institutionalizing of conflicting interests, and they are so prevalent inside this country that they can never be resolved. ˜
This came to me as an extraordinary shock because the men who made this statement were men who were deemed as the most prominent bankers in the country. The bank of which I was a part, which I ˆve spoken of, was a Morgan bank and, coming from men of that caliber, a statement of that kind made a tremendous impression on me. The type of impression that it made on me was such that I wondered if I, as an individual and what they call a junior officer of the bank, could with the same enthusiasm foster the progress and policies of the bank.
I spent about a year trying to think this out and came to the conclusion that I would have to resign. I did resign; and, as a consequence of that, had this experience. When my letter of resignation reached the desk of the president of the bank, he sent for me, and I came to visit with him, and he stated to me: ¯Norm, I have your letter, but I don't believe you understand what's happened in the last 10 days. ˜ And I said, ¯No, Mr. Cochran, I have no idea what's happened. ˜ ¯Well, ˜ he said, ¯the directors have never been able to get your report to them out of their mind; and, as a result, they have decided that you as an individual must begin at once and you must reorganize this bank in keeping with your own ideas. ˜ He then said, ¯Now, can I tear up your letter? ˜
Inasmuch as what had been said to me was offering me, at the age of by then 33, about as fine an opportunity for service to the country as I could imagine, I said yes. They said they wished me to begin at once, and I did. Suddenly, in the span of about six weeks, I was not permitted to do another piece of work and, every time I brought the subject up, I was kind of patted on the back and told, ¯Stop worrying about it, Norm. Pretty soon you'll be a vice president, and you'll have quite a handsome salary and ultimately be able to retire on a very worthwhile pension. In the meantime you can play golf and tennis to your heart's content on weekends. ˜
Well, Mr. Griffin, I found I couldn't do it. I spent a year figuratively with my feet on the desk doing nothing and I couldn't adjust to it so I did resign and, this time, my resignation stuck. Then I got my second shock, which was the discovery that the doors of every bank in the United States were closed to me, and I never could again get a job, as it were, in the banks. I found myself, for the first time since I graduated from college, out of a job.
From there on I followed various branches of the financial world, ranging from investment counsel to membership of the stock exchange and finally ended as an adviser to a few individuals who had capital funds to look after. In the meantime, my major interest became very specific, which was to endeavor by some means of getting the educational world to actually you might say teach the subject of economics realistically and move it away from the support of various speculative activities that characterize our country.
I have had that interest, and you know how, as you generate a specific interest, you find yourself gravitating toward persons with similar interests, and ultimately I found myself in the center of the world of dissatisfaction with the directions that this country was headed. I found myself in contact with many individuals who on their own had done a vast amount of studying and research in areas, which were part of the problem.

ED GRIFFIN: At what point in your career did you become connected with the Reece Committee?

NORMAN DODD: 1953.

ED GRIFFIN: And what was that capacity, sir?

NORMAN DODD: That was in the capacity of what they called Director of Research.
ED GRIFFIN: Can you tell us what the Reece Committee was attempting to do?


Go to http://www.realityzone.com/hiddenagenda2.html for the rest of this revealing interview from 1982,

[Brainache]

Well gee wizz lucky I'm not American or I would have been brainwashed into thinking that Communism is a good thing.
Coz every yank I've ever met has tried to convert me to the evil ways of socialism and state control of the means of production.
They hate the free market those damn yankee commies.

[Bell]

Well gee wizz lucky I'm not American or I would have been brainwashed into thinking that Communism is a good thing.
Coz every yank I've ever met has tried to convert me to the evil ways of socialism and state control of the means of production.
They hate the free market those damn yankee commies.

You actually READ all of that? :jaw-dropp

[Mince]

Hey, Christophera;

Do all of the deniers share a common brain?

[Dog Town]

NO MORE CHRIS GET HELP!
Enough!

[defaultdotxbe]

Hey, Christophera;

Do all of the deniers share a common brain?

i think they had one brain they split up between them, and since "everyone is waking up" there arent enough brain cells to go around anymore

[Foolmewunz]

Doctor Welby! Doctor Welby! Your patient is out of his room and wandering around the grounds unattended. We have rules, here, Doctor! This is for their own good. Please see to it that he stays in his room or in the community room. This is for his own safety. He could harm himself or wander off.

Heeee's baaack!

[Bell]

i think they had one brain they split up between them, and since "everyone is waking up" there arent enough brain cells to go around anymore

I think that one brain by now must be pulverized.

[Foolmewunz]

I think that one brain by now must me pulverized.

Powderized! Get it straight - they were powderized... in mid-air, no less!:D

[Architect]

This man will tell you that the real objective has been to influence American educational institutions and to control foreign policy of the federal government. The purpose of this control has been to condition Americans to accept the creation of world government. That government is to be based on the principle of collectivism, which is another way of saying socialism, and it is to be ruled from behind the scenes by those same interests which control the tax-exempt foundations.

That's right, we're not US Government Spooks but secret UN Fifth Columnists, preparing the disinformation campaign in advance of a commie-led UN takeover of the UN. As I look out my office window I can see the massed tanks ready to sweep in, with (of course) US Government help.

Good thing you Yanks have got a constitutional right to hold heavy weaponry, eh?



Is this a believable scenario?



No! Chris - Get Medical Help, Now!!

[Architect]

Powderized! Get it straight - they were powderized... in mid-air, no less!:D

Aha...you mean Invisicells tm ?

3" Neurons at 4 foot centres! 3" Neurons at 4 foot centres! (repeat as required)

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Your wall of text crits sanity and reason for 1337
Sanity dies
Reason dies
[/worldofwarcrack]

[defaultdotxbe]

Your wall of text crits sanity and reason for 1337
Sanity dies
Reason dies
[/worldofwarcrack]

god i cant believe i understood that...

...note to self...lay off the d&d

[stateofgrace]

Chris, you do understand that we are not all from America don't you? Not everybody in the world lives in America.

Beyond your shores is an ocean, a few in fact depending on which way you go. Over these oceans is other lands, they are called countries. Within these strange and foreign lands live other people, they are not American, they come from different countries and have different cultural backgrounds and more impotently to your question, different educational systems.

I know it is strange Chris, but people really do live, breath and work outside America. All these strange people are not controlled by the US Government nor are they brainwashed through some sinister US Government educational system.

Just thought I would let you know.

[Class]

Could someone sum up Christophera's post? I do not want to run the risk of damaging my brain over something I know is BS.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Could someone sum up Christophera's post? I do not want to run the risk of damaging my brain over something I know is BS.

It's BS.

[DanKirby]

Could someone sum up Christophera's post? I do not want to run the risk of damaging my brain over something I know is BS.

Uh... 3" socialism on 4'...well, I don't know.

[Architect]

Chris, you do understand that we are not all from America don't you? Not everybody in the world lives in America.

Beyond your shores is an ocean, a few in fact depending on which way you go. Over these oceans is other lands, they are called countries. Within these strange and foreign lands live other people, they are not American, they come from different countries and have different cultural backgrounds and more impotently to your question, different educational systems.

I know it is strange Chris, but people really do live, breath and work outside America. All these strange people are not controlled by the US Government nor are they brainwashed through some sinister US Government educational system.

Just thought I would let you know.

He probably thinks we're the same guy because we're both scottish. Be careful. :jaw-dropp

[Architect]

Could someone sum up Christophera's post? I do not want to run the risk of damaging my brain over something I know is BS.

Aye, no problem:

One world government

Takeover of US by mysterious forces

Tacit (active?) government support

They're all commies and socialists.


Queries?

[Architect]

Erm......I'm worried that, being American, Chris might have access to automatic weaponry.

[jhunter1163]

To sum up:

Norman Dodd says the Carnegie Foundation controls education in the US, based on what I can't really tell. I made my own judgment on the validity of this guy's story when he spelled Wayne Hays' name wrong all the way through.

[Psiload]

i think they had one brain they split up between them, and since "everyone is waking up" there arent enough brain cells to go around anymore

I think they take turns with the brain, and this obviously isn't Chris's day. Come to think of it... I don't think Chris ever gets a day.

[Gravy]

All of us suffer from an imposed ignorance depriving us of untold knowledge.
No, one of us – Christopher A. Brown – suffers from a self-imposed ignorance depriving him of told knowledge.

[Gravy]

Uh... 3" socialism on 4'...well, I don't know.
Welcome to the forums, Dan, and thanks. I hadn't laughed all day.

[Gravy]

Chris, you do understand that we are not all from America don't you? Not everybody in the world lives in America.
You clearly haven't been on the #7 train in New York.

[kevin]

Erm......I'm worried that, being American, Chris might have access to automatic weaponry.

I hope he does. I would feel safer. Given his inability to actually come to a point on anything his aim has to be total crap.

[Z]

My sig says it all. Don't feed the loony.

[Foolmewunz]

Chris, bubbie! Ed Griffin? Not the G. Edward Griffin! The Laetrile guy!

This is a favorite pass-around interview. One should consider that Dodd was likely "doddering" at the time ( I think he was like 82 y.o. when interviewed ), and has all sorts of dubious crap in it. (Director of.... Did Congressional committees really appoint "Directors"?)

I think the Reece committee (not the ones who invented Reece's pieces - we like them, or at least E.T. does and he was so cute....:p ) was of the Jumpin' Joe McCarthy era.... Funny how nothing was ever released until the 80's. Wouldn't Ol' Joe just have loved to have some nice links between the Commies and the Ford Foundation and The Rand Corporation?

G. Edward Griffin is an author who is taken so NOT SERIOUSLY that you cannot find a mainstream review of anything he's written. Maybe someone did review them, but if they did, they're at Google number 2000, because every whack-job Illuminati, NWO, Bilderberg, Elders of the Protocol of Zion site in the world is reviewing him in golden terms.

Chris! What next?
Fluoride?
Fatty Arbuckle was innocent and framed by that Joo, Chaplin?
Save the nauga (source of naugahides)?
We gotta do lunch, babe. You haven't forgotten my offer for the re-make of Rainman, have you. I'm sure we can get Cruise to do his old role. You two are a shoo-in for the Oscars!

[Christophera]

These are things I sense were true but did not have the facts until recently.

Are any of the victims ready to do anything about it? Do any know what can be done? Why it should be done?


http://sweetliberty.org/

Who Owns You?

1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF.
(Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I.,
Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No.
26, Public Law 102-391.)

2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)

3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)

4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4
pg.113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288)

5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer
a United States. No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of operating
under bankruptcy its finally over. (Executive Order 12803) Do not personate
one of the creditors or share holders or you will go to Prison.18 U.S.C. 914

6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never
part of the United States government. Even though the "US Government" held
shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis
v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)

7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The
Application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of
the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social Security Administration.
The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5
forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a
copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS
Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2) Read the
cites above)

8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since
1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators
enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428,
1 Stat. 138-178)

9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just
been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat.
138-178)

10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House
Report (103-826)

11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary
System. *

12. The UN is a One World Super Government. *

13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony.
There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much
better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations.
*

14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United
Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that "New York City was the
capital of the World" and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B
422.103 (b) (2) (2)

15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust
Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)

16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an
Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on
the top left United States Treasury.)

17. You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the
property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate
Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme
Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)

19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24)

20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary
war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not
a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of
Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A
LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS
DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of
Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New
Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles
of Association October 20, 1774.)

23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of
Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)

25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)

26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest
and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.
(Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

28. The Pope's laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec,
lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44)

29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our
children. (Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E.
146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13
N.Y. REP 378, 481)

30. Military Dictator George Washington divided the States (Estates) into
Districts. (Messages and papers of the Presidents Vo 1, pg 99. Websters 1828
dictionary for definition of Estate.)

31. "The People" does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City
Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243)

32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty
of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)

33. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect
the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd.
363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of
Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247.

34. Everything in the "United States" is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools,
hospitals, water, prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath lake.
Did anyone take the time to check? (Executive Order 12803)

35. We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)

36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for
over 50 years and now owns every man, women and child in America. The UN
also holds all of the Land in America in Fee Simple. *

37. The good news is we don't have to fulfill "our" fictitious obligations.
You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another's fictitious
obligation. *

38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States
and various other companies were making loans to others all over the World
during the Depression. The building of Germanys infrastructure in the 1930's
including the Railroads was financed by the United States. That way those
who call themselves "Kings," "Prime Ministers," and "Fuher,"etc could sit
back and play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the
Americans, Germans etc. who gave their lives thinking they were defending
their Countries which didn't even exist. The millions of innocent people who
died for nothing. Isn't it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in
these fiascoes? That is where the "Bank of International Settlements" is
located. Wars are manufactured to keep your eye off the ball. You have to
have an enemy to keep the illusion of "Government" in place. *

39. The "United States" did not declare Independence from Great Britain or
King George. *

40. Guess who owns the UN?

* Caveat Redemptor - Verify for yourself

[carlvs]

Now you're quoting from what looks like a site that caters to ultra right-wing "militia" groups?!?!?:jaw-dropp

God, I lost what little tolerrance I had for those "people" on 4/19/95...

[Dog Town]

Verify for yourself

I think, therfore I am not a CT'er!

[Bell]

I think, therfore I am not a CT'er!

You think that you think.

[TobiasTheViking]

Well gee wizz lucky I'm not American or I would have been brainwashed into thinking that Communism is a good thing.
Coz every yank I've ever met has tried to convert me to the evil ways of socialism and state control of the means of production.
They hate the free market those damn yankee commies.

:cry1

I didn't deserve to be put in the same category as yankees. :(

[jhunter1163]

I HAVE to find out what Chris is smoking. That must be the world's best (rule8).

[GlennB]

Who Owns You?

1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF.
(Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I.,
Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)

<and quite a lot more>



Haven't been here long, but is it beyond the bounds of possibility that Chris is just having some most excellent long-term fun ?
Just wondering, like ....

[David Wong]

Haven't been here long, but is it beyond the bounds of possibility that Chris is just having some most excellent long-term fun ?
Just wondering, like ....

Read around. When people say he's "ill" or "not well" they're not making a snide joke. He believes he's been under the influence of government mind control for many years.

[Dog Town]

Chris is just having some most excellent long-term mental melt down ?


Fixed,and yes!

[chipmunk stew]

Haven't been here long, but is it beyond the bounds of possibility that Chris is just having some most excellent long-term fun ?
Just wondering, like ....
I've thought about this, but even if true, there'd have to be something seriously...different...about the guy. I mean, you'd think repeating the same joke over and over again for years on end would get a little old, yeah? Especially if you're the only one laughing.

No. He believes it all.

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

For the interest of all parties involved, would everyone please just put Christophera on ignore.

[shuize]

These are things I sense were true but did not have the facts until recently.

Ha. Thanks for the laugh, Christophera. For some reason, I found this one the funniest:

18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)
Okie dokie.

The entire list reminds me of working in court services when pro-se defendants used to come in and tell the lawyers and judges what the law "really" meant.

[Genesius]

To be fair, he did get one right. . .


32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty
of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)


Of course, 1/40 is a pretty poor grade.

And, being a Pennsylvanian my whole life, I had to love
18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme
Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)
:wooWe're number one! We're number one!

[Z]

These are things I sense were true but did not have the facts until recently.

Are any of the victims ready to do anything about it? Do any know what can be done? Why it should be done?


http://sweetliberty.org/

Who Owns You?

1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF.
(Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I.,
Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No.
26, Public Law 102-391.)

2. The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 6th Ed. Pg. 816)

3. The U.S. Has not had a Treasury since 1921. (41 Stat. Ch.214 pg. 654)

4. The U.S. Treasury is now the IMF. (Presidential Documents Volume 29-No.4
pg.113, 22 U.S.C. 285-288)

5. The United States does not have any employees because there is no longer
a United States. No more reorganizations. After over 200 years of operating
under bankruptcy its finally over. (Executive Order 12803) Do not personate
one of the creditors or share holders or you will go to Prison.18 U.S.C. 914

6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never
part of the United States government. Even though the "US Government" held
shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis
v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)

7. Social Security Numbers are issued by the UN through the IMF. The
Application for a Social Security Number is the SS5 form. The Department of
the Treasury (IMF) issues the SS5 not the Social Security Administration.
The new SS5 forms do not state who or what publishes them, the earlier SS5
forms state that they are Department of the Treasury forms. You can get a
copy of the SS5 you filled out by sending form SSA-L996 to the SS
Administration. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2) Read the
cites above)

8. There are no Judicial courts in America and there has not been since
1789. Judges do not enforce Statutes and Codes. Executive Administrators
enforce Statutes and Codes. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428,
1 Stat. 138-178)

9. There have not been any Judges in America since 1789. There have just
been Administrators. (FRC v. GE 281 US 464, Keller v. PE 261 US 428 1Stat.
138-178)

10. According to the GATT you must have a Social Security number. House
Report (103-826)

11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary
System. *

12. The UN is a One World Super Government. *

13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony.
There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much
better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations.
*

14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United
Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that "New York City was the
capital of the World" and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B
422.103 (b) (2) (2)

15. Social Security is not insurance or a contract, nor is there a Trust
Fund. (Helvering v. Davis 301 US 619, Steward Co. V. Davis 301 US 548.)

16. Your Social Security check comes directly from the IMF which is an
Agency of the UN. (Look at it if you receive one. It should have written on
the top left United States Treasury.)

17. You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the
property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate
Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)

18. The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme
Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)

19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24)

20. The King of England financially backed both sides of the Revolutionary
war. (Treaty at Versailles July 16, 1782, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80)

21. You can not use the Constitution to defend yourself because you are not
a party to it. (Padelford Fay & Co. v. The Mayor and Alderman of The City of
Savannah 14 Georgia 438, 520)

22. America is a British Colony. (THE UNITED STATES IS A CORPORATION, NOT A
LAND MASS AND IT EXISTED BEFORE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR AND THE BRITISH TROOPS
DID NOT LEAVE UNTIL 1796.) Respublica v. Sweers 1 Dallas 43, Treaty of
Commerce 8 Stat 116, The Society for Propagating the Gospel, &c. V. New
Haven 8 Wheat 464, Treaty of Peace 8 Stat 80, IRS Publication 6209, Articles
of Association October 20, 1774.)

23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

24. The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of
Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)

25. A 1040 form is for tribute paid to Britain. (IRS Publication 6209)

26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest
and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.
(Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

28. The Pope's laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec,
lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44)

29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our
children. (Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E.
146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13
N.Y. REP 378, 481)

30. Military Dictator George Washington divided the States (Estates) into
Districts. (Messages and papers of the Presidents Vo 1, pg 99. Websters 1828
dictionary for definition of Estate.)

31. "The People" does not include you and me. (Barron v. Mayor & City
Council of Baltimore. 32 U.S. 243)

32. The United States Government was not founded upon Christianity. (Treaty
of Tripoli 8 Stat 154.)

33. It is not the duty of the police to protect you. Their job is to protect
the Corporation and arrest code breakers. Sapp v. Tallahasee, 348 So. 2nd.
363, Reiff v. City of Philadelphia, 477 F.Supp. 1262, Lynch v. N.C. Dept of
Justice 376 S.E. 2nd. 247.

34. Everything in the "United States" is For Sale: roads, bridges, schools,
hospitals, water, prisons airports etc. I wonder who bought Klamath lake.
Did anyone take the time to check? (Executive Order 12803)

35. We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)

36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for
over 50 years and now owns every man, women and child in America. The UN
also holds all of the Land in America in Fee Simple. *

37. The good news is we don't have to fulfill "our" fictitious obligations.
You can discharge a fictitious obligation with another's fictitious
obligation. *

38. The depression and World War II were a total farce. The United States
and various other companies were making loans to others all over the World
during the Depression. The building of Germanys infrastructure in the 1930's
including the Railroads was financed by the United States. That way those
who call themselves "Kings," "Prime Ministers," and "Fuher,"etc could sit
back and play a game of chess using real people. Think of all of the
Americans, Germans etc. who gave their lives thinking they were defending
their Countries which didn't even exist. The millions of innocent people who
died for nothing. Isn't it obvious why Switzerland is never involved in
these fiascoes? That is where the "Bank of International Settlements" is
located. Wars are manufactured to keep your eye off the ball. You have to
have an enemy to keep the illusion of "Government" in place. *

39. The "United States" did not declare Independence from Great Britain or
King George. *

40. Guess who owns the UN?

* Caveat Redemptor - Verify for yourself

Remember this jewel of grainy goodness?

There's no point discussing anything with Chris. He's certifiable.

[Horatius]

17. You own no property, slaves can't own property. Read the Deed to the
property that you think is yours. You are listed as a Tenant. (Senate
Document 43, 73rd Congress 1st Session)


* Caveat Redemptor - Verify for yourself

Okay, let's just do that, then.



Noun 1. tenant tenant - someone who pays rent to use land or a building or a car that is owned by someone else; "the landlord can evict a tenant who doesn't pay the rent"
renter
leaseholder, lessee - a tenant who holds a lease
boarder, lodger, roomer - a tenant in someone's house
payer, remunerator - a person who pays money for something
2. tenant - a holder of buildings or lands by any kind of title (as ownership or lease)
cotenant - one of two or more tenants holding title to the same property
holder, bearer - the person who is in possession of a check or note or bond or document of title that is endorsed to him or to whoever holds it; "the bond was marked `payable to bearer'"
life tenant - a tenant whose legal right to retain possession of buildings or lands lasts as long as they (or some other person) lives
tenant farmer - a farmer who works land owned by someone else
3. tenant - any occupant who dwells in a place
occupant, occupier, resident - someone who lives at a particular place for a prolonged period or who was born there
Verb 1. tenant - occupy as a tenant
occupy, inhabit - be present in; be inside of


Because we all know that legal documents using obscure or archaic language are clealry proof of a global conspiracy to make us slaves, right?

[solidslade]

These are things I sense were true but did not have the facts until recently.

11. We have One World Government, One World Law and a One World Monetary
System. *

12. The UN is a One World Super Government. *

13. No one on this planet has ever been free. This planet is a Slave Colony.
There has always been a One World Government. It is just that now it is much
better organized and has changed its name as of 1945 to the United Nations.
*

19. The Revolutionary War was a fraud. See (22, 23 and 24)

23. Britain is owned by the Vatican. (Treaty of 1213)

26. The Pope claims to own the entire planet through the laws of conquest
and discovery. (Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

27. The Pope has ordered the genocide and enslavement of millions of people.
(Papal Bulls of 1455 and 1493)

28. The Pope's laws are obligatory on everyone. (Bened. XIV., De Syn. Dioec,
lib, ix., c. vii., n. 4. Prati, 1844)(Syllabus, prop 28, 29, 44)

29. We are slaves and own absolutely nothing not even what we think are our
children. (Tillman v. Roberts 108 So. 62, Van Koten v. Van Koten 154 N.E.
146, Senate Document 43 & 73rd Congress 1st Session, Wynehammer v. People 13
N.Y. REP 378, 481)

35. We are Human capital. (Executive Order 13037)

36. The UN has financed the operations of the United States government for
over 50 years and now owns every man, women and child in America. The UN
also holds all of the Land in America in Fee Simple. *

39. The "United States" did not declare Independence from Great Britain or
King George. *

40. Guess who owns the UN?

* Caveat Redemptor - Verify for yourself


Jesus-Tap-Dancing-CHRIST.


the UN a "super government"? UN Peacekeepers cant even SHOOT BACK even if it's in self defence >_> (Bosnia Herzegovina)


And those Papacy references, date back when there were TWO popes? (I guess when the French decided to kidnap the Pope and keep one in France?)

One Monetary System? You've prolly never seen how places like Kowloon or Thailand or SWITZERLAND operate with just about every form of currency on the planet.


I'm not even going to bother with the other "facts", so ..... /roll-Monty-Python-music : here's something completely different!

Todays : SPOOOOKY THOUGHT.
Christophera teaching History in your local high school or university ^_^;;;;

[Redtail]

Wow! The time is now 4:20!:jaw-dropp

[Bell]

Don't kick the f-ing baby!!!

[Architect]

The Pope's laws are obligatory on everyone.


Really? How does that apply to the Church of Scotland, then? I haven't noticed any Priests kicking down my door for all sorts of breaches of Roman Catholic law/guidance/whatever.

[Zep]

Umm, just don't encourage him, folks. He's not responsible for what he writes here. You just feed his fantasies of you do.

He doesn't need us, he needs a psychologist, and probably a properly designed medication regime.

[Architect]

Aha. A pal of Christophera then?

[Miss Anthrope]

NO MORE CHRIS GET HELP!
Enough!

Seconded.

[jhunter1163]

I don't know what he's smoking, but it's bad etiquette to bogart it... and it must be some GOOOOOOOD (rule 8).

[Loss Leader]

1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)

<snip lots of cites from some conspiracy website>

I know that this will come as a shock to some, but absolutely none of these cites say what Chris claims they do. In fact, most of the cites are just wrong - they cannot be found at all using the information given or they are referred to by their bill jacket number instead of their statutory citation.

For example:

14. New York City is defined in the Federal Regulations as the United Nations. Rudolph Gulliani stated on C-Span that "New York City was the capital of the World" and he was correct. (20 CFR chapter 111, subpart B 422.103 (b) (2) (2)

There is no Chapter 111 of Title 20. The correct citation would be 20 CFR 422.103. However, when you get to that cite, you see that Title 20 is Employees' Benefits and the 400's deal with the Social Security Administration.

422.103(b)(2)(2) actually says: "SSA may enter into an agreement with a State, including, for this purpose, the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and New York City, to establish, as part of the official birth registration process, a procedure to assist SSA in assigning social security numbers to newborn children."

Basically, the only reason New York City is mentioned is to allow the city to have a different procedure for assigning social security numbers than the rest of New York State. There's nothing about the UN in this rather innocuous regulatory passage.

6. The FCC, CIA, FBI, NASA and all of the other alphabet gangs were never part of the United States government. Even though the "US Government" held shares of stock in the various Agencies. (U.S. V. Strang , 254 US 491, Lewis v. US, 680 F.2d, 1239)

Amazingly, neither of these cases comes anywhere close to saying this. U.S. v. Strang stood for the proposition that a corporation (in that case the Fleet Corporation) whose stock was held by the government was not a government agent. It said nothing about government agencies which were not organized as separate corporations. In any event, the case was decided in 1921 and I'm pretty sure it hasn't been good law since the 1930s. The Post Office and the TVA are now considered more government than private.

Lewis v. U.S. was a 1982 case stating that the each Federal Reserve Bank is not a federal agency but an independant company whose stock is owned by the local area banks.

The most powerful court in America is not the United States Supreme Court but, the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania. (42 Pa.C.S.A. 502)

This organizing statute just provides that the Pennsylvania Supreme Court shall have supreme judicial power in Pennsylvania consistent with the state's constitution. The writers of the law picked a strange way to say it, though:

"The Supreme Court shall have and exercise the powers vested in it by the Constitution of Pennsylvania, including the power generally to minister justice to all persons and to exercise the powers of the court, as fully and amply, to all intents and purposes, as the justices of the Court of King's Bench, Common Pleas and Exchequer, at Westminster, or any of them, could or might do on May 22, 1722."

I guess May 22, 1722 was a good day for justice in England.

The Pope can abolish any law in the United States. (Elements of
Ecclesiastical Law Vol.1 53-54)

I'm sure the Pope thinks so, but seeing as his army consists entirely of twenty Swiss guys dressed like clowns, we'll probably see him coming.

The "United States" did not declare Independence from Great Britain or King George.

Judge for yourself, I guess. This is the last paragraph of a document titled, appropriately, Declaration of Independence:

"We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by the Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do."

I hope that clears things up.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

. . . .

I'm sure the Pope thinks so, but seeing as his army consists entirely of twenty Swiss guys dressed like clowns, we'll probably see him coming.

. . . .



You are forgetting the Duchy of Grand Fenwick and how succesful they were -- at least in the documentary I saw. :D

[Yaters]

Does anyone else see a comparison to Tyler Durden's diatribes in Fight Club?

Christophera: I am Jack's ever-growing loss of sanity.

[Alt+F4]

You clearly haven't been on the #7 train in New York.

Indeed, the 7 is the United Nations of public transportation.

[The Almond]

I'm sure the Pope thinks so, but seeing as his army consists entirely of twenty Swiss guys dressed like clowns, we'll probably see him coming.


While I don't speak for Pope Benedict, I don't see him trying to abolish any laws under any authority other than that of a moral leader. If a law were passed tomorrow requiring me to punch ugly people in the face, I think the Pope would probably object.

For anyone who's interested, the Chatechism of the Catholic Church, numbers 53 and 54 state the following:

53. The transformation of social relationships that responds to the demands of the Kingdom of God is not fixed within concrete boundaries once and for all. Rather, it is a task entrusted to the Christian community, which is to develop it and carry it out through reflection and practices inspired by the Gospel. It is the same Spirit of the Lord, leading the people of God while simultaneously permeating the universe[63], who from time to time inspires new and appropriate ways for humanity to exercise its creative responsibility[64]. This inspiration is given to the community of Christians who are a part of the world and of history, and who are therefore open to dialogue with all people of good will in the common quest for the seeds of truth and freedom sown in the vast field of humanity[65]. The dynamics of this renewal must be firmly anchored in the unchangeable principles of the natural law, inscribed by God the Creator in each of his creatures (cf. Rom 2:14-15), and bathed in eschatological light through Jesus Christ.
54. Jesus Christ reveals to us that “God is love” (1 Jn 4:8) and he teaches us that “the fundamental law of human perfection, and consequently of the transformation of the world, is the new commandment of love. He assures those who trust in the love of God that the way of love is open to all people and that the effort to establish a universal brotherhood will not be in vain”[66]. This law is called to become the ultimate measure and rule of every dynamic related to human relations. In short, it is the very mystery of God, Trinitarian Love, that is the basis of the meaning and value of the person, of social relations, of human activity in the world, insofar as humanity has received the revelation of this and a share in it through Christ in his Spirit.

And I have no earthly clue where Chris is getting this "abolish any law" nonsense.

[Kiwiwriter]

In that case, I want to buy stock in the CIA, when it gets traded on the Big Board. :)

And tell Christophera that the Treaty of Versailles ended World War I. The Treaty of Paris ended the American War of Independence. :)

[firecoins]

Erm......I'm worried that, being American, Chris might have access to automatic weaponry.
Only the mentally ill have access to those....Chris qualifies.

[Loss Leader]

The Treaty of Paris ended the American War of Independence. :)

And the Vietnam war. Coincidence? You decide.

[solidslade]

Does anyone else see a comparison to Tyler Durden's diatribes in Fight Club?

Christophera: I am Jack's ever-growing loss of sanity.

You insult Jack! >_>-p
How dare you!