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Nie Trink Wasser
9th June 2003, 01:43 PM
I believe that art should remain generally apolitical. No singular ideology deserves to establish an absolute hegemony over the right hemisphere of the brain.
I find the artwork of Jhonen Vasquez much more pleasing to the eye - as well as more functional - than the propaganda posters of Lenin and Hitler.
this qoute is extremely interesting to me.
what does it do for you ?
Frostbite
9th June 2003, 05:27 PM
It's be fun to have artists like Michael Moore, Marilyn Manson or the lead singer of Rage Against the Machine to be involved in politics. ;)
KelvinG
9th June 2003, 07:23 PM
"Triumph of the Will" comes to mind. It's a visually stunning film, but it's political message is obviously chilling.
Does this make it less artistic? I would say not. Art cannot simply be defined by content, even if that content is as repugnant as the Nazi regime.
As a pure visual spectacle, the film is hypnotic.
However, this is an exceptional example. Most propoganda pales in artistic beauty when compared to "Triumph of the Will."
peptoabysmal
9th June 2003, 07:28 PM
Does art imitate life or does life imitate art?
The Central Scrutinizer
9th June 2003, 07:53 PM
Originally posted by Nie Trink Wasser
what does it do for you ?
nothing.
Nie Trink Wasser
10th June 2003, 07:07 AM
Originally posted by The Central Scrutinizer
nothing.
why do you post ?
you've yet to show me how you arent useless here.
though I would like to handle your breasts.
Monketey Ghost
10th June 2003, 07:46 AM
State of the art.
And on the subject of ripping other posters, some of us have not forgotten your idiotic "hilarious" link. You're the newbie here, try to show a little respect for old Scrut, hm?
Nie Trink Wasser
10th June 2003, 08:15 AM
Originally posted by No Answers
State of the art.
And on the subject of ripping other posters, some of us have not forgotten your idiotic "hilarious" link. You're the newbie here, try to show a little respect for old Scrut, hm?
well....not everyone thought my "hilarious" link was "idiotic", but you're intitled to want to hurt me for it.
I'll show ole Scrut some respect in time I guess .
Bewbs can help that.
BillyTK
10th June 2003, 08:42 AM
Battleship Potemkin (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0015648), Pablo Picasso's Guernica (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/9820/guernica.htm) and George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four all spring to mind as great political art. But I've got to say that anyone who finds the work of Jhonen Vasquez much more pleasing to the eye than the propaganda posters of Lenin and Hitler is displaying a rather, ahem, personal taste in visual design; to say his work is more functional also shows an idiosyncratic understanding of art history. I wouldn't call his work apolitical per se; amoral maybe, but not apolitical.
c0rbin
10th June 2003, 10:45 AM
Art is about ideas and feelings.
People can have ideas and feelings about politics.
Saying that one doesn't like art that is politicol is a little like me saying I don't like sugar in my coffee.
I.E. Who gives a f*ck?
jj
10th June 2003, 11:21 AM
How about John Cougar Mellencamp vs. The Dixie Chicks for senator? :D
In such cases, Chauncey Gardner's comment comes to mind. :p
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