Suck on this, Newton!

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Sounds like far out science fiction, but it just might be true - a pseudo-reactionless drive: http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4O8IRavCUcciTSF7pmp8WT5wlHeM0L_gdowpB0KEOROAZwcNsH FN_4BsnDeEusEmy6BZnOaz1JnUe7xzxTvx9wr7gHaoe7D2N-8/Relativity%20drive.doc

[Zombified]

Hmm, the link did not seem to work.

Was this some sort of electromagnetic thing? There was a thread about a microwave drive recently.

[andyandy]

hmm it appears you've lured us on with a pseudo-pseudo-reactionless drive.......

[RenaissanceBiker]

hmm it appears you've lured us on with a pseudo-pseudo-reactionless drive.......

No, it was a psuedo-link to a psuedo-reactionless drive. You posted a psuedo-assessment of the original post and I couldn't not psuedo-let it go.

[Johnny Pneumatic]

Hmm, the link did not seem to work.

Was this some sort of electromagnetic thing? There was a thread about a microwave drive recently.


Does for me, guess you have a pseudo-computer.


Yep, same thing it seems. Can't I do a thread on something first? Dammit.

[phildonnia]

While we're waiting, here's some interesting reading material:
http://www.deanspacedrive.org/dean_drive.htm

[Ziggurat]

While we're waiting, here's some interesting reading material:
http://www.deanspacedrive.org/dean_drive.htm

Yeah, um... so if this was patented in 1959, why the hell isn't there an application of it yet?

There are indeed cases where it naively looks like Newton's 3rd law is being violated in some interaction between two objects. But that's because momentum can be carried by fields as well as by masses: properly account for the momentum in the fields, and Newton's 3rd law holds, INCLUDING the simultaneity of action and reaction.

[Zombified]

Yeah, um... so if this was patented in 1959, why the hell isn't there an application of it yet?

There are indeed cases where it naively looks like Newton's 3rd law is being violated in some interaction between two objects. But that's because momentum can be carried by fields as well as by masses: properly account for the momentum in the fields, and Newton's 3rd law holds, INCLUDING the simultaneity of action and reaction.
Dead on.

Newton's action-reaction statement is essentially an assertion of the conservation of momentum. Mr. Dean's modification, if it can be correctly interpretated from his colloquial, non-mathematical verbiage, violates conservation of momentum. There's no experimental evidence that supports that, and a lot of very well-tested theory that would break with it.

[Just thinking]

Yes, the conservation of momentum cannot be violated -- even rockets in space that are said to push against nothing actually push against the ejected fuel.

[Johnny Pneumatic]

While we're waiting, here's some interesting reading material:
http://www.deanspacedrive.org/dean_drive.htm


Yep, heard of it years ago.

Just for clarification: I'm not claiming this microwave drive will work, I'm doubtful it will, but it does seem different than the usual stick-slip drives that involve a moving mass and only work if they're in contact with a surface in a gravity environment, such as the Dean drive.

[andyandy]

Yep, heard of it years ago.

Just for clarification: I'm not claiming this microwave drive will work, I'm doubtful it will, but it does seem different than the usual stick-slip drives that involve a moving mass and only work if they're in contact with a surface in a gravity environment, such as the Dean drive.

do you have an ammended OP link yet?

[russingram]

this might be it:

http://83.219.63.174/Articles/295931/Microwave%20engine%20gets%20a%20boost.htm