TWO Kings of the Americas?!

[Jocko]

Holy hell, it looks like our own KOA is in trouble! There's another paranoid schizo out there claiming to be the RIGHTFUL KING OF AMERICA, and I don't see how you could argue with him after you've seen his website (http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/nir.htm). He even has a sort of oath of loyalty there, just like the KOA tried to force on another message board not so long ago.

I'm more inclined to believe in this second king, simply on the grounds that his website is far superior to the one run by the king we all know and loathe.

Sadly, even KOA's delusions of grandeur lack originality, it seems.

[King of the Americas]

...CR*P!

You had me frightened there for a minute.

THIS is one of my lessers. "Kingdom of the United States of America"

Kind Sir, 'I' am:

"His Majesty, Albert James Knabe, King of the AMERICAS"

I thought you paid closer attention to the details.

[Jocko]

Originally posted by King of the Americas
...CR*P!

You had me frightened there for a minute.

THIS is one of my lessers. "Kingdom of the United States of America"

Kind Sir, 'I' am:

"His Majesty, Albert James Knabe, King of the AMERICAS"

I thought you paid closer attention to the details.

Seems to me that you DO have a problem here, chum. Your "lessers" would be barons, earls, and the like, would they not? He declares sovereignty over America, superceding your declared authority.

Sounds to me like he's just fired the first shots at the Fort Sumter of your illusions. How can he be sovereign without secession?

You may have to consider changing your monicker to "King of Canada, Central and South America, and associated territories excluding the US Virgin Islands and Guam."

Or KOCCASAAATETUSVIAG for short.

Doesn't really roll off the tongue, does it?

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Jocko
Seems to me that you DO have a problem here, chum. Your "lessers" would be barons, earls, and the like, would they not? He declares sovereignty over America, superceding your declared authority.
Seems fairly straight forward to me--the King of the Americas would rule over the King of the US in the same way that the monarch of the United Kingdom trumps the monarchs of Scotland, Wales and Ireland. It's not that hard, really.

[King of the Americas]

...BillyTK, Thank You.

[Ed]

"I, Marc Eric Ely-Chaitlin of the House of David"

Hmmmm..... too Jewish.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Ed
"I, Marc Eric Ely-Chaitlin of the House of David"

Hmmmm..... too Jewish.

Wouldn't worry about it. Our monarchy's of German extraction, the Saxe-Kohlbergs, who changed their name to Windsor during the First World War, if memory serves.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by King of the Americas
...BillyTK, Thank You.

Yr welcome. Btw, as I'm a left-leaner of occasionally anarchist persuasion, I figure its best to warn you that I'm going to do my damnedest to depose you! :p ;)

[Jocko]

Originally posted by BillyTK

Seems fairly straight forward to me--the King of the Americas would rule over the King of the US in the same way that the monarch of the United Kingdom trumps the monarchs of Scotland, Wales and Ireland. It's not that hard, really.

Sure, except I see no declaration of fealty from the new upstart royal. I believe there is some kind of formal declaration of loyalty demanded of sub-kings, isn't there?

At least that's how it went in Braveheart.

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by Jocko


Sure, except I see no declaration of fealty from the new upstart royal. I believe there is some kind of formal declaration of loyalty demanded of sub-kings, isn't there?

At least that's how it went in Braveheart.

I wouldn't trust "Hollywood-ised" history :p but basically the options are:

Sub-king voluntarily swears fealty;
Uber-king forces sub-king to swear fealty;
Uber-king kills sub-king;
Sub-king kills uber-king;
One refuses to recognise the other;
One of 'em runs off to Europe.
:D

[Suspected Idiot]

Maybe you could end up with a Holy Roman Empire thing going on. Kings of individual countries still pretty much independent, but uber king nominally still in charge. That might be a better way to go, Emporer of America, King of Brazil and Canada, Grand Elector of Venezula and Duke of Peru, Mexico and Urugauy. The more titles the better in a situation like this.

[Jocko]

Originally posted by BillyTK


I wouldn't trust "Hollywood-ised" history :p but basically the options are:

Sub-king voluntarily swears fealty;
Uber-king forces sub-king to swear fealty;
Uber-king kills sub-king;
Sub-king kills uber-king;
One refuses to recognise the other;
One of 'em runs off to Europe.
:D

Precisely my point. There must be some kind of accomodation made, either peacefully or through conflict. When sub-kings get ambitious, aren't uber-kings prone to removing them? I can see kings not recognizing each others' authority, but within the same geographical area? You think Wales could get away with that? No way!

In any event, nowhere in all the tripe on that page does he acknowledge a higher royal authority, therefore he is an usurper and it is now incumbent upon the KOA to hunt him down and kill him, or admit that his title is erroneous.

It would be like Wisconsin seceding and the federal government still insisting that our flag include 50 stars. It's not a matter of opinion....