Venezuelan Diplomat Detained

[NickUK]

Now that the NWO JooLizards are about to get Hug0wned by Chavez, how long 'til this story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5374954.stm) is linked by our black-shirted friends?

I'm guessing not very long ;)

[Oliver]

Now that the NWO JooLizards are about to get Hug0wned by Chavez, how long 'til this story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5374954.stm) is linked by our black-shirted friends?

I'm guessing not very long ;)

I´m sorry to ask - what is the NWO? The Gov, i guess, right? :o

[NickUK]

The New World Order! Bush, Cheney, Rothschilds, Silverstein, Charlie Sheen* etc.


*obvious double agent

[Oliver]

The New World Order! Bush, Cheney, Rothschilds, Silverstein, Charlie Sheen etc.

Ooops, i should guessed that... :"> As far i know, they allready jumped on it... :rolleyes:

[G-K-4]

Ooops, i should guessed that...
And since you are not North American, you might not know about some of the connotations of this term with some people here.

Some (many?) people in our extreme Right fear the rise of a "One World Government". U.S. ultra-nationalists see organizations such as the U.N. as threats to U.S. independence and unilateral action. And some U.S. Christians read the Book of Revelation as saying that in the terrible days before the end of the world, Satan will unify all of the nations and religions of the world and rule over everything.

When George H.W. Bush referred to a new, post-Cold War international balance of power, he called it a "New World Order". This was quickly taken by people to Bush's right to mean a code for everything they fear.

[Horatius]

What I'd like to know is, when did diplomats turn into such pussies? If he was detained, why didn't he just tell them to piss off, and not comply with their instructions? He's got (or should have) diplomatic immunity, so what's he worried about? It's not like he'd go to jail, like a regular shmoe would.

[Architect]

And since you are not North American, you might not know about some of the connotations of this term with some people here.

Some (many?) people in our extreme Right fear the rise of a "One World Government". U.S. ultra-nationalists see organizations such as the U.N. as threats to U.S. independence and unilateral action. And some U.S. Christians read the Book of Revelation as saying that in the terrible days before the end of the world, Satan will unify all of the nations and religions of the world and rule over everything.

When George H.W. Bush referred to a new, post-Cold War international balance of power, he called it a "New World Order". This was quickly taken by people to Bush's right to mean a code for everything they fear.


And, at the risk of getting political, your Constitution lets these people buy army-grade automatic weaponry......oh dearie, dearie me. :eek:

[rwguinn]

And, at the risk of getting political, your Constitution lets these people buy army-grade automatic weaponry......oh dearie, dearie me. :eek:

Well--No.
It doesn't. At least, Not legally (since 1936)

[derail][wistful rant]
If the 2nd amendment were taken absolutely literally, I'd have a fully-armed (regulated) F-16 sitting in my back yard..Da*n, I'd like that...[/wistful rant]

[Rasmus]

What I'd like to know is, when did diplomats turn into such pussies? If he was detained, why didn't he just tell them to piss off, and not comply with their instructions? He's got (or should have) diplomatic immunity, so what's he worried about? It's not like he'd go to jail, like a regular shmoe would.

Was that a serious question?

[Donal]

Diplomatic immunity doesn't prevent you from getting detained, just arrested. A cop can still pull over a diplomat for speeding or something like that.

[Rasmus]

Diplomatic immunity doesn't prevent you from getting detained, just arrested. A cop can still pull over a diplomat for speeding or something like that.

In Germany, only until it is found out that the diplomat is a diplomat. We have special licence plates for diplomats here. (usually 0, followed by a country code, followed by a simple counter which may sometimes represent the status of the car's driver.)

These cars should not be pulled over at all, and even if it was found to be speeding, the driver wouldn't get a ticket.

I am fairly certain, too, that a diplomat cannot be detained once his status has been identified. (And why should he be detained?)

[Donal]

The US had special diplomatic plates too.

I know here we have had a rash of problems with the envoys from a certain large, cold, vodka loving country getting hammered then driving around the Bronx. Cops were allowed to pull them over until someone else could come and drive them back to the embassy or wherever.

also, it is a controversy every once in a while when some "investigative journalist" goes around and "discovers" that they aren't paying their parking tickets.

[Katana]

The US had special diplomatic plates too.

I know here we have had a rash of problems with the envoys from a certain large, cold, vodka loving country getting hammered then driving around the Bronx. Cops were allowed to pull them over until someone else could come and drive them back to the embassy or wherever.

also, it is a controversy every once in a while when some "investigative journalist" goes around and "discovers" that they aren't paying their parking tickets.
What is your position on their apparent immunity from our laws?

I have a problem with this extreme latitude.

[Horatius]

Diplomatic immunity doesn't prevent you from getting detained, just arrested. A cop can still pull over a diplomat for speeding or something like that.

Mr Maduro told Venezuelan television that he was detained for an hour-and-a-half and his passport and plane ticket were temporarily taken away.

He said he was verbally abused, threatened with being strip-searched, and that authorities at one point ordered him and other officials to spread their arms and legs and be frisked.


Exactly what could they have done to him, without his co-operation? A regular guy will usually go along with a police demand, because they know they can be arrested and strip searched and thrown in jail and all that. This guy had to know they couldn't do any of that to him, so why didn't he just tell them to piss off and wait for someone with more authority to show up and tell the cops they had to back off?

Even if they don't listen to him, there are no long term consequences he need worry about. If someone like this can't stand up to a cop, what hope do the rest of us have?

[Rasmus]

The US had special diplomatic plates too.

I know here we have had a rash of problems with the envoys from a certain large, cold, vodka loving country getting hammered then driving around the Bronx. Cops were allowed to pull them over until someone else could come and drive them back to the embassy or wherever.

Ah ...

I am only guessing, but of course the police here would be well within their rights to stop a driver from further endangering the public. I was thinking along the lines of general controls - but I think those aren't necessarily very common outside of Germany. (Here, the police will set up camp at a major road and just pull over as many cars as they can and control them one by one for various aspects: drivers licence, registration, paid taxes, valid technical inspections, condition of the car, etc. etc.)

also, it is a controversy every once in a while when some "investigative journalist" goes around and "discovers" that they aren't paying their parking tickets.

:eek:

[Donal]

Here, the police will set up camp at a major road and just pull over as many cars as they can and control them one by one for various aspects: drivers licence, registration, paid taxes, valid technical inspections, condition of the car, etc. etc.)



Ya, we have checkpoints too. Especially around the holidays. My idiot brother recently got himself a DUI at one.