Hamas declares all-out war on Israel

[Tony]

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GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — The Palestinian resistance group Hamas said today it has ordered "all military cells" to take immediate action and carry out more attacks on Israelis.

The group also urged foreigners to leave Israel and the Palestinian areas for their own safety.
Hamas has threatened bloody revenge for Israel's attempt earlier this week to assassinate one of its main leaders, Abdel Aziz Rantisi. The Hamas co-founder and spokesperson escaped with minor injuries from an Israeli helicopter missile strike.

On Wednesday, a Hamas bomber blew himself up on a Jerusalem bus, killing 16 people and wounding more than 70.

Hamas said in a statement today that more attacks would follow.

[JAR]

Its a pity. No matter how much evidence is collected to support that the Palestinians are led by blood-thirsty killers, the left will support their cause simply because the standard of living in Palestine is lower than that in Israel(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

That's where the right and left disagree. The right feels that one's sympathies should go to they who are more moral while the left feels that one's sympathies should go to they who are less wealthy.

[Baker]

Hamas has been in an all-out war on Israel for years this shouldn’t come as a surprise.

[ImpyTimpy]

I agree, what's the surprise here. Hamas has been at war with Israel before the statement, so this isn't something new. I don't feel either side has any chance of starting on the peace road map however since either side won't stop the killing. What I do find interesting is that this seems to be Israel vs Hamas issue.

I think the answer here is for Israel to create their own terrorist group and both terrorist groups can start killing each other while the government officially negotiate the peace deal.

[Jon_in_london]

Its a pity. No matter how much evidence is collected to support that the Isrealis are led by blood-thirsty killers, the right will support their cause simply because the standard of living in Isreal is higher than that in the occupied territories (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

That's where the right and left disagree. The left feels that one's sympathies should go to they who are more moral while the right feels that one's sympathies should go to they who are more wealthy.

[Tony]

Israel needs to take the gloves off, this whole situation could be over in 6 months. They need to conquer the "occupied territories".

[Tmy]

Arafat and Sharon need to go. The sides need some new younger blood wh different attitudes.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Tony
They need to conquer the "occupied territories".

They already did that you gibbering ignoramus! why do think they are occupied?! And what will happen to the people who live there?

[Tony]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


They already did that you gibbering ignoramus! why do think they are occupied?!

"Occipied" and conquered are two different things. You're ignorant for not knowing the difference. Honestly, It doesnt surprise me, you're the same idiot ive seen defending castro.




And what will happen to the people who live there?


They will willingly sacrifice themselves in the ensuing war. Basically, the same thing they are doing now, only on a larger scale.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Tony


"Occipied" and conquered are two different things. You're ignorant for not knowing the difference. Honestly, It doesnt surprise me, you're the same idiot ive seen defending castro.



Right. how do you occupy a place without conquering it first?
Isreal has been occupying that land since it conquered it in 1967.

You Tony, are ingnorant in so far as you dont know the correct relative orientations of cart and horse.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Tony

They will willingly sacrifice themselves in the ensuing war. Basically, the same thing they are doing now, only on a larger scale.

You are advocating genocide. It follows logically, the Isrealis have kept the Palestinians in ghettos for a long time now. Death camp phase may be fast approaching. I wonder how long it will take Sharon to arrive at his 'final solution'?

[HarryKeogh]

when are the folks on the left and the guys on the right going to realize both sides are led by incompetents with agendas that go back 40 years?

sorry Hamas, but suicide bombing might not be the best way to get international support for your plight

sorry Israel, but firing rockets into crowded traffic to kill one man isn't the best military maneuver. nor is bulldozing homes without regard to who's inside.

get rid of sharon and arafat, hit the reset button and try again.

[Tmy]

Hey Tony after they cull all the arabs I wonder where the UN will put the surviving Pali's. Maybe carve out a piece of Utah and make it a Palistine State. No one is really using Utah, and Im sure the local mormans wont mind.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


You are advocating genocide.


Im advocating peace through victory.


the Isrealis have kept the Palestinians in ghettos for a long time now.

What evidence do you have that those ghettos are not the result of the enept PA leadership?

[BillyTK]

Originally posted by JAR
Its a pity. No matter how much evidence is collected to support that the Palestinians are led by blood-thirsty killers, the left will support their cause simply because the standard of living in Palestine is lower than that in Israel(feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
You're wrong. Was that meant to be a challenge or something?

That's where the right and left disagree. The right feels that one's sympathies should go to they who are more moral while the left feels that one's sympathies should go to they who are less wealthy.
And you're wrong again. I could just as easily assert that the left sides with the Palestinians because they're oppressed and the right sides with Israel because of biblical end-time prophecies, and I'd still be way off--albeit a little closer than your assertion--because there's no homogenous pro- or anti-stance on either side of the political divide.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Tmy
Hey Tony after they cull all the arabs I wonder where the UN will put the surviving Pali's. Maybe carve out a piece of Utah and make it a Palistine State. No one is really using Utah, and Im sure the local mormans wont mind.

Wouldnt they be better off in your hometown? You seems to like them soo much, let them live with you.

[Tmy]

Originally posted by Tony


Wouldnt they be better off in your hometown? You seems to like them soo much, let them live with you.

Id rather they stay in Palistine. You on the other hand wanthem all dead. I dont know why Im surpised, being from Texas Im sure your a big ol racist.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Tmy


Id rather they stay in Palistine. You on the other hand wanthem all dead.

So do I, but they have shown they cant live peacfully in the modern world. Hell, they cant even build a decent society.

I dont know why Im surpised, being from Texas Im sure your a big ol racist.

And I’m sure being a leftist; you fcuk your mom in the a$$. I can make strawman arguments and unsubstantiated generalizations too, but it does nothing for the issue at hand.

[Monketey Ghost]

Originally posted by Tony


And I’m sure being a leftist; you f*** your mom in the ass.

I certainly hope Tony will be warned for cussing.

[Tmy]

Originally posted by Tony


So do I, but they have shown they cant live peacfully in the modern world. Hell, they cant even build a decent society.

I dont know why Im surpised, being from Texas Im sure your a big ol racist.

And I’m sure being a leftist; you fcuk your mom in the a$$. I can make strawman arguments and unsubstantiated generalizations too, but it does nothing for the issue at hand.



All you ever do is make unsubstantiated generalizations about the Palistinians. At least Ive been to Texas and known Texans. So my generalization at least has a base to it.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Tmy


All you ever do is make unsubstantiated generalizations about the Palistinians.


like what??

At least Ive been to Texas and known Texans. So my generalization at least has a base to it.



I think that says more about the type of people you choose to associate with.

and also..

It's still a strawman argument to say this has anything to do with race.

[Frostbite]

Originally posted by JAR
That's where the right and left disagree. The right feels that one's sympathies should go to they who are more moral while the left feels that one's sympathies should go to they who are less wealthy.

The reason for that is that "moral" is a very relative term, and that poverty isn't. The left believes that it can try to understand and accept the customs, values and principles of different cultures whereas the right tries to conform the world to its views.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Frostbite


The left believes that it can try to understand and accept the customs, values and principles of different cultures whereas the right tries to conform the world to its views.

Then why are leftists so aggressive in their agenda? They have the desire to conform the world to their view just as much as the rightists.