US Marine Pops out Baby on Warship in Warzone

[Jedi Knight]

A US Marine pops out a baby (http://www.cmrlink.org/social.asp?docID=191) on a warship in a warzone.

This has got to be one the most hilarious quotes I have read in some time. Read this carefully:

A Pentagon official told the Washington Times that the Marine did not tell anyone she was pregnant because she did not know that she was.

You mean to tell me that the pregnant Marine didn't know she was pregnant after not having a menstrual cycle for eight months prior to birth and as the watermelon expanding in her uterous grew to bowling ball dimensions?!?!?

I can see it now.

"Excuse me, Marine Sergeant. I don't know how it happened, but there is a baby coming out of my birth canal!"

You have got to be kidding me!

"I know the Marines are good at 'multiplying' the force, but this is ridiculous," Mrs. Donnelly said.

Ahh...hahahahahha!

JK

[JAR]

I hope she knows who the father is, and I hope the father is willing to act as husband to this woman and as father of the child.

[Checkmite]

It would be cool to be born on a Navy ship in the middle of a conflict (as long as you survive, of course).

[The Fool]

Ok Jedi. Your Father probably should have done this....but come and sit next to uncle Fool and we'll talk about the birds and the bees.

Not all women have regular menstral cycles. The absence of menstruation does not mean you are pregnant. Some women who take oral contraception have infrequent or no menstruation. It is quite feasible that a woman could be well into a pregnancy before fetal movement made it pretty much impossible to miss.

[aerosolben]

Originally posted by Joshua Korosi
It would be cool to be born on a Navy ship in the middle of a conflict (as long as you survive, of course).

Yes. That would indubitably suggest that your destiny is to rally the people of the world against the Great Evil in their darkest hour.

or maybe I read too much.

[Gem]

I guess it takes the self reliant and independent ship to a whole new level. No need for new people, just make new ones!

Gem

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by The Fool
Not all women have regular menstral cycles. The absence of menstruation does not mean you are pregnant. Some women who take oral contraception have infrequent or no menstruation. It is quite feasible that a woman could be well into a pregnancy before fetal movement made it pretty much impossible to miss.

Oh puh-leeze! :rolleyes:

[Ian Osborne]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london
Oh puh-leeze! :rolleyes:

It's true. And don't forget that as a marine, she's likely to be very fit, with a low body fat ratio. That too could interfere with her menstral cycle.

[Jon_in_london]

Originally posted by Ian Osborne


It's true. And don't forget that as a marine, she's likely to be very fit, with a low body fat ratio. That too could interfere with her menstral cycle.

So she wouldnt have noticed that enormous swelling in her stomach? Beleive it or not, I can tell when a women is heavily pregnant without knowing ANYTHING about her periods.

[Graham]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


So she wouldnt have noticed that enormous swelling in her stomach? Beleive it or not, I can tell when a women is heavily pregnant without knowing ANYTHING about her periods.

Good for you, apparently some women can't.

It's not terribly common but it happens (http://www.ivillage.co.uk/pregnancyandbaby/pregnancy/labour/articles/0,9547,18_183121,00.html)

Graham

[Hypocolius]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london


So she wouldnt have noticed that enormous swelling in her stomach? Beleive it or not, I can tell when a women is heavily pregnant without knowing ANYTHING about her periods.

It happens more often than you might think. I knew a Gulf Air stewardess in Bahrain who popped her kid in a hotel in Doha, and had to smuggle it back into Bahrain. She had no idea that she was pregnant, and "wasn't very regular anyway".

She made the front page of a couple of the tabloids back in the mid '80's I recall.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by The Fool
It is quite feasible that a woman could be well into a pregnancy before fetal movement made it pretty much impossible to miss.

You know how ignorant that sounds?

The Marine chick popped out a 7 pound baby. 7 pounds! There is no way in hell that chick didn't know she was pregnant with a 7 pound baby bouncing around her center of mass.

The whole thing was a scam. I am thinking someone on the ship got her pregnant if they were deployed for over 9 months. If that is the case, the whole thing could be a huge coverup.

The reason I say that is because if a chick knows she is pregnant she is not going to deploy to war. The system is hard-wired to make their lives much easier if they get pregnant. Read the article about it.

No, I think she got pregnant on the ship, and if she got pregnant, she wasn't using contraceptives, right? Oh wait, you will use the "well there is documented case of a girl in 1463 who got pregnant when the sperm jumped off the table and ran up her leg and..."

JK

[Ian Osborne]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
The Marine chick popped out a 7 pound baby. 7 pounds! There is no way in hell that chick didn't know she was pregnant with a 7 pound baby bouncing around her center of mass.

Actually, if her stomach muscles were sufficiently developed, it's entirely possible for the baby bump to go unnoticed. And let's face it, as a Marine, she'd have done lots of sit-ups...

The whole thing was a scam. I am thinking someone on the ship got her pregnant if they were deployed for over 9 months. If that is the case, the whole thing could be a huge coverup.

If she was deployed for more than nine months that would be a reasonable conclusion, but why would this make it a 'cover-up'?

The reason I say that is because if a chick knows she is pregnant she is not going to deploy to war. The system is hard-wired to make their lives much easier if they get pregnant. Read the article about it.

You'd rather the forces sent heavily-pregnant women into battle, giving birth in foxholes and suckling behind sandbags? Besides, if she got pregnant on purpose to get out of going to war, why would she conceal it until the birth? Seems counter-productive to me...

No, I think she got pregnant on the ship, and if she got pregnant, she wasn't using contraceptives, right? Oh wait, you will use the "well there is documented case of a girl in 1463 who got pregnant when the sperm jumped off the table and ran up her leg and..."

Maybe not. Contraceptives have a failure rate. You don't need tall tales about late-medieval bouncing sperms to explain this one...

[renata]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight

The whole thing was a scam. I am thinking someone on the ship got her pregnant if they were deployed for over 9 months. If that is the case, the whole thing could be a huge coverup.

JK

http://www.kfmb.com/topstory16358.html

The unidentified mother is an administrative chief with the Headquarters Battery of the 11th Marines, which is the artillery regiment of the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force.


....

The Boxer, which left port January 17, is expected to arrive back in San Diego in late July, said Senior Chief Petty Officer Scott Williams, a Navy spokesman.

It appears she was already pregnant when ship left port- unless the baby was severely premature. If so, then if she truly got pregnant to get out of the service, and knew she was pregnant, I assume she would have notified her commander prior to leaving port in January. As I understand it, that would get her off the ship.

As to not knowing one is pregnant: I have heard stories of similar cases. It can happen when the mother is obese, and weight gain is not noticed, or when the mother is extraordinarily physically fit.

Some preganancies also have some irregular mild bleeding and spotting, and it is possible that a woman who was on hormonal birth control, or had irregular periods did not notice the changes, or attributed them to stress.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Ian Osborne
Actually, if her stomach muscles were sufficiently developed, it's entirely possible for the baby bump to go unnoticed. And let's face it, as a Marine, she'd have done lots of sit-ups...

That is laughable. It had to be a coverup. Check these pics out. This is what a pregnant woman's belly looks like with a 7 pound baby fermenting inside it. But some 'situps' will hide it, right?

http://pregnancy.about.com/library/belly/0227g.jpg

"Oooh...I better go do some situps to hide this watermelon."

http://pregnancy.about.com/library/belly/0127k.jpg

"Gosh, think anyone will notice this monster inside me when I report for duty in a warzone?"

haha

If she was deployed for more than nine months that would be a reasonable conclusion, but why would this make it a 'cover-up'?

It is against military regulations for women to have sex with anyone in their units, anyone in the chain of command. (which includes everyone).

You'd rather the forces sent heavily-pregnant women into battle, giving birth in foxholes and suckling behind sandbags? Besides, if she got pregnant on purpose to get out of going to war, why would she conceal it until the birth? Seems counter-productive to me...

Pregnant women don't even need to be in the military. There is no justification for pregnant women to be soldiers.

That said, women who wish to give up pregnancy while they serve indeed need to be sent to the front lines as infantry and naturally included in the Selective Service so discrimination against males can end.

Maybe not. Contraceptives have a failure rate. You don't need tall tales about late-medieval bouncing sperms to explain this one...

Failure in kook-related terms. Contraceptives for women have a 99% success rate. Psychics do better with their predictions than women getting pregnant statistically when those women are on the pill.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by renata
As to not knowing one is pregnant: I have heard stories of similar cases. It can happen when the mother is obese, and weight gain is not noticed, or when the mother is extraordinarily physically fit.

Some preganancies also have some irregular mild bleeding and spotting, and it is possible that a woman who was on hormonal birth control, or had irregular periods did not notice the changes, or attributed them to stress.

Yeah, and I have heard stories of psychics using the same line of reasoning.

JK

[renata]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


Yeah, and I have heard stories of psychics using the same line of reasoning.

JK


If she knew she was pregnant, why would she get on the ship? She could get out of doing altogether, if she admitted she was pregnant.

[Checkmite]

Jedi, shouldn't you be happy that this woman, if she knew she was pregnant, decided not to do the "feminazi matriarchal" thing by getting out of war duty, and went to serve anyway? Or is absolutely anything a woman does unacceptable?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by renata
If she knew she was pregnant, why would she get on the ship? She could get out of doing altogether, if she admitted she was pregnant.

I am thinking that she was pressured to go. She probably held a critical slot in her unit and if she claimed she was pregnant she would lose her position and would probably be discharged from the Marines.

That could be one possibility but there are other possibilities. It is all speculation.

That said, it is 100% unacceptable to allow a pregnant female to go to a war zone. A war zone is the most lethal environment any human can step into, and it is a serious question of poor-judgement as to why she was there.

That is why the excuse "she didn't know she was pregnant" will cover everyone's ass.

JK

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Joshua Korosi
Jedi, shouldn't you be happy that this woman, if she knew she was pregnant, decided not to do the "feminazi matriarchal" thing by getting out of war duty, and went to serve anyway? Or is absolutely anything a woman does unacceptable?

If that is the case I salute her dedication but have no choice to call her actions very poor judgement. Pregnant women have no place in a war zone. Pregnant women cannot defend themselves in war whether she was on a ship or not. The survivability of military units in war depends solely upon each individual member's ability to defend themselves and do their job. If her ship was hit with a missile, could she contribute to saving lives on that ship? She would probably be a quick casualty. Common sense tells us that pregnant women have no business being soldiers in any capacity.

It was terrible judgement for her to be in that region.

But "she didn't know she was pregnant", lol, so everything is just "dandy".

JK

[renata]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I am thinking that she was pressured to go. She probably held a critical slot in her unit and if she claimed she was pregnant she would lose her position and would probably be discharged from the Marines.

That could be one possibility but there are other possibilities. It is all speculation.

That said, it is 100% unacceptable to allow a pregnant female to go to a war zone. A war zone is the most lethal environment any human can step into, and it is a serious question of poor-judgement as to why she was there.

That is why the excuse "she didn't know she was pregnant" will cover everyone's ass.

JK


According to this,
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/6066067.htm

Logan did not know whether the Marine knew she was pregnant when she boarded the USS Boxer and sailed for the Persian Gulf in January. However, Logan said that if the Marine Corps had known she was pregnant, she would not have been sent overseas.

"You are not deployable if you are pregnant," he said. "She would not have been sent over."


Do you have any information that that pregnant Marines get discharged?

So if she knew when she was pregnant when she came on the ship, do you think she assumed she would have a miscarriage? An abortion? Deliver the baby herself? Or did she think she could hide the pregnancy until the ship was scheduled to come back? If she was 7 months pregnant in late May, she would have been 9 months pregnant when the ship was scheduled to be back, in late July. Do you think she figured she would ride out the pregnancy in the warzone, come back to San Diego and have a baby? Would she be discharged from the Marines if she had a baby in San Diego? If she was going to be discharged anyway, why go to the war zone? I suppose she could have thought she could ride out the pregnancy in the Gulf, have the baby upon her return to San Diego ( cutting it a tad close), give it up for adoption and return to her unit.


If her pregnancy was so noticeable, how come nobody on the ship noticed it? I assume she did not have her own private room and bathroom, and had to wear a uniform.

[Ed]

Originally posted by The Fool
Ok Jedi. Your Father probably should have done this....but come and sit next to uncle Fool and we'll talk about the birds and the bees.

Not all women have regular menstral cycles. The absence of menstruation does not mean you are pregnant. Some women who take oral contraception have infrequent or no menstruation. It is quite feasible that a woman could be well into a pregnancy before fetal movement made it pretty much impossible to miss.

Amenoria can occur with ongoing physical exercise.

[Ed]

Turnabout is fair play. JK said this:

"the watermelon expanding in her uterous grew to bowling ball dimensions?!?!?"

Consider the implications. Unless, of course, JK uses a watermelon sized bowling ball.:D

Or, if where he comes from, they have golf ball sized watermelons. Either way, JK, You got some 'splainin to do.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by renata
Do you have any information that that pregnant Marines get discharged?

If she is a single soldier on active duty she will get discharged. Single male soldiers that have custody of children also get discharged. The reasoning is simple enough--who takes care of the baby while mom or dad is off fighting in a war to be deployed for unknown periods of time? That is why single parents don't do well in the armed forces and the armed forces knows that readiness is hurt in such circumstances.

So if she knew when she was pregnant when she came on the ship, do you think she assumed she would have a miscarriage? An abortion? Deliver the baby herself?

Maybe she thought she wouldn't be deployed that long. I am thinking the unit knew about it, she had a key slot, and was promised she would be looked after regardless.

Or did she think she could hide the pregnancy until the ship was scheduled to come back?

That is one of the possibilities.

If she was 7 months pregnant in late May, she would have been 9 months pregnant when the ship was scheduled to be back, in late July. Do you think she figured she would ride out the pregnancy in the warzone, come back to San Diego and have a baby?

That is probably part of what she was thinking, speculating of course.

Would she be discharged from the Marines if she had a baby in San Diego?

That depends if she was married or not. If she was single she would probably be discharged according to current military policy.

If she was going to be discharged anyway, why go to the war zone?

Money; position; the father could be in the unit with her; there are a variety of possibilities.

I suppose she could have thought she could ride out the pregnancy in the Gulf, have the baby upon her return to San Diego ( cutting it a tad close), give it up for adoption and return to her unit.

Possibly. The point is it should never have happened. She shouldn't have even stepped foot on that ship while she was pregnant. Ships are very dangerous in peacetime, deadly in wartime.

If her pregnancy was so noticeable, how come nobody on the ship noticed it? I assume she did not have her own private room and bathroom, and had to wear a uniform.

On a ship she would probably have her own quarters since she is female or shared with one other female. They would have private hygiene facilities.

Masking the pregnancy is easy--just wear uniforms larger than you normally would. That is the 'intent' of 'uniforms'. Making everyone appear 'uniform'.

JK

[jj]

Originally posted by renata
It can happen when the mother is obese, and weight gain is not noticed, or when the mother is extraordinarily physically fit.


And most marines I've met were very physically fit, and had enormously well-developed aerobic and muscle capacity.

I suspect this is just another deliberate Jedi wind-up, I see from the quotes that he's talking trash again. The medical issues are well-known here.

I'm sure he knows better. He's just trying to lessen the value of the board.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by jj


And most marines I've met were very physically fit, and had enormously well-developed aerobic and muscle capacity.

I suspect this is just another deliberate Jedi wind-up, I see from the quotes that he's talking trash again. The medical issues are well-known here.

I'm sure he knows better. He's just trying to lessen the value of the board.

You mean old bastard, why are you trolling in my thread?

JK

[jj]

Originally posted by Ed
Turnabout is fair play. JK said this:

"the watermelon expanding in her uterous grew to bowling ball dimensions?!?!?"

Consider the implications. Unless, of course, JK uses a watermelon sized bowling ball.:D

Or, if where he comes from, they have golf ball sized watermelons. Either way, JK, You got some 'splainin to do.

What's a "uterous"????:p

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by jj


What's a "uterous"????:p

It's that thing inside a jackal that you were spawned from.

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/6300247104.01._PE_SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

JK

[Gem]

In the article I think it said there were only 4 other cases, in the mid 1990s. It's a problem, but not a big one. It's not something that will slow down a ship or kill people.

Gem

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Gem
In the article I think it said there were only 4 other cases, in the mid 1990s. It's a problem, but not a big one. It's not something that will slow down a ship or kill people.

Gem

Gem, that is an interesting thought. You claim that there were only 4 other cases of pregnant women in war zones?

Where can information be found about unit readiness and pregnant women? How many female soldiers get pregnant to get out of deploying to war? If those soldiers are critical to unit success, what does that do to military readiness for war when they get pregnant and then leave their jobs?

JK

[Crossbow]

As long as you are on the subject of women in the military, perhaps you could clarify your stand on this matter.

Do you, or do you not, want women in the military?

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Crossbow
As long as you are on the subject of women in the military, perhaps you could clarify your stand on this matter.

Do you, or do you not, want women in the military?

I have clarified that matter dozens of times. I want women in the Selective Service System like men. I want women serving in infantry combat units on the front lines like men. I want women doing everything that men do equally in the military, sharing the full burden.

JK

[Ed]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight
Possibly. The point is it should never have happened. She shouldn't have even stepped foot on that ship while she was pregnant. Ships are very dangerous in peacetime, deadly in wartime.

JK [/B]

Yup, all ships are dangerous.

http://www.travelserver.net/travelpage/aspgallery/pictures/Ad_51_1.jpg

[Jedi Knight]

http://www.authentichistory.com/images/ww2/rph/pearl_harbor_photo_05.jpg

Oh yeah Ed, Navy warships are just the place for pregnant women to be stationed. :rolleyes:

JK

[Gem]

Where can information be found about unit readiness and pregnant women? How many female soldiers get pregnant to get out of deploying to war? If those soldiers are critical to unit success, what does that do to military readiness for war when they get pregnant and then leave their jobs?

No idea. Maybe no one thought about it, or no one thinks it should be brought up, since it's only a minor problem. Write to your congressman(congresswoman) about asking for such statistics, IF they can't be found after some research.

Gem

[ArmchairPhysicist]

Every so often we hear about someone giving birth without knowing that she was pregnant. It doesn't happen very often, and the series of events that lead to such an event are rare indeed. Count the number of childbirths this year, then count the number that didn't know they were pregnant...

If she truly didn't know, she's that one amazing incident. It can and does happen, and she's the one it happened to. Oops.

If she did know, I more or less support her intentions. Naval ships are as capable as most hospitals, and are nearly unasailable these days; she was as safe on the ship as she would be on land. She fulfilled her duties up until the last minute, which is respectable at the least and more than many WMs would do.

On the ship, (had they let her stay aboard) she would have actually been able to get back to work much sooner than usual, and would miss less work time due to the distance from her quarters to her job. She would be less of a burden on her unit than nearly any other new single mother would be (less time missed). As a female SNCO, she likely already had single quarters, which means her new status as a parent would not have changed things.

All in all, I don't see a problem with the situation other than it catching everybody by surprise. Her being on a ship actually makes the situation more convenient for most parties involved, and the Corps doesn't lose a productive Marine.

If this were still WWII era, and sea battles were actuallt a threat, things would be different. In this era, it's not a big deal beyond the initial shock. Now, that's just the opinion of someone who has seen a few land pregnancies but never served on a ship. On initial examination, it seems like it would be as good as any other pregnancy. I'd like to hear what some of the females who have served on ships have to say about it, though.

[ArmchairPhysicist]

Where can information be found about unit readiness and pregnant women? How many female soldiers get pregnant to get out of deploying to war? If those soldiers are critical to unit success, what does that do to military readiness for war when they get pregnant and then leave their jobs?

Here's a start: http://www.cmrlink.org/CMRNOTES/5615CMCMRRPT08M95.pdf

[Ed]

Shuffleboard gone bad


Originally posted by Jedi Knight
http://www.authentichistory.com/images/ww2/rph/pearl_harbor_photo_05.jpg

Oh yeah Ed, Navy warships are just the place for pregnant women to be stationed. :rolleyes:

JK

[American]

That's gonna be one tough baby when it grows up!

[Gideon S]

JK, your ignorance of American military policy is astounding.

Many single parents serve in the military (I worked with three), it is not against the UCMJ to have sex with someone in your unit, and no one on a ship except high ranking officers have private quarters.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Gideon S
Many single parents serve in the military (I worked with three), it is not against the UCMJ to have sex with someone in your unit, and no one on a ship except high ranking officers have private quarters.

I am not talking about garbage men and air-traffic controllers--I am talking about Combat Arms.

Pregnant women don't belong in war zones. Period.

Navy ships are primary nuclear targets, especially carrier groups. Just because the US hasn't faced an enemy with the capability to engage our fleet in a very long time doesn't mean our Navy floats around the sea with impunity. We have enemies that monitor the location of our Navy vessels 24/7 and who plan to destroy them if there is ever a war.

There are no single parents in combat arms. None. Zip. It is against military regulations.

It is also a crime, a violation of the UCMJ to engage in sexual contact with members of your unit--the chain of command.

The soldier shouldn't have been on that ship pregnant and since she was it is a major breach in military conduct and military operations in general.

JK, your ignorance of American military policy is astounding.

Care to make a wager on that, cherry? :D

JK

[reprise]

Ummm, surely the military personnel of first world nations are given complete physicals immediately prior to being deployed in war zones (and if they aren't, then why on earth not?); a complete physical for a woman should include a pregnancy test, irrespective of what contraception she is using.

A seven pound baby is most certainly not significantly premature, so it can be reasonably assumed this woman was pregnant when deployed. Irrespective of whether she should have been aware of her pregnancy or not, the military should have tested all female personnel for pregnancy prior to deployment.

Edited for typos, as usual.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by reprise
Ummm, surely the military personnel of first world nations are given complete physicals immediately prior to being deployed in war zones (and if they aren't, then why on earth not?); a somplete physical for a woman should include a pregnancy test, irrespective of what contraception she is using.

A seven pound baby is most certainly not significantly premature, so it can be reasonably assumed this woman was pregnant when deployed. Irrespective of whether she should have been aware of her pregnancy or not, the military should have tested all female personnel for pregnancy prior to deployement.

That's a great point.

JK

[Gideon S]

Originally posted by Jedi Knight


I am not talking about garbage men and air-traffic controllers--I am talking about Combat Arms.

There are no single parents in combat arms. None. Zip. It is against military regulations.


again, I worked with three: one was a single dad who was in para-rescue. another was a single mother who was a flight surgeon. Perhaps an argument could be made that a flight surgeon is not a combat role, but in the case of the PJ no such argument could be made.


It is also a crime, a violation of the UCMJ to engage in sexual contact with members of your unit--the chain of command.


It is a violtation of the UCMJ to sleep with a superior, not "anyone in your unit". I regularly dated several women within mine, openly and with no reprimand.



The soldier shouldn't have been on that ship pregnant and since she was it is a major breach in military conduct and military operations in general.


Many women get pregnant while at sea, that's no big secret. It results in immediate referral to shore duty, not discharge.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Gideon S
again, I worked with three: one was a single dad who was in para-rescue. another was a single mother who was a flight surgeon. Perhaps an argument could be made that a flight surgeon is not a combat role, but in the case of the PJ no such argument could be made.

Military policy may be different now. When I served if a soldier became a single parent they were finished. They could no longer countinue. We were combat arms so that was probably a unit priority, not a service priority. I could see how some job categories could be flexible enough to allow it.

It is a violtation of the UCMJ to sleep with a superior, not "anyone in your unit". I regularly dated several women within mine, openly and with no reprimand.

That is new to me too. Things have changed since I served. We always had a policy against it because it went against good order and discipline.

Many women get pregnant while at sea, that's no big secret. It results in immediate referral to shore duty, not discharge.

I can't comment on how the Navy deals with that problem. I know in the Army that soldiers are discharged as single parents for having children. A single soldier has no resources to care for a baby and do their job--single soldiers live in barracks.

JK

[Ed]

Damnnation .. JK might have been correct:
"Fresh From Consumer Polls, Pint-Size Watermelons"
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/15/business/15MELO.html

:)

Originally posted by Ed
Turnabout is fair play. JK said this:

"the watermelon expanding in her uterous grew to bowling ball dimensions?!?!?"

Consider the implications. Unless, of course, JK uses a watermelon sized bowling ball.:D

Or, if where he comes from, they have golf ball sized watermelons. Either way, JK, You got some 'splainin to do.

[Genghis Pwn]

LMAO at this thread. You have got to be kidding me if you believe her story. Give me a break! :rolleyes:

The only way this is possible is if she was over 300 or 400 pounds, so fat that she couldn't notice the baby, and even that would be unbelievable. FYI, there are no Marines who are nearly that fat.

[Jedi Knight]

Originally posted by Genghis Pwn
LMAO at this thread. You have got to be kidding me if you believe her story. Give me a break! :rolleyes:

The only way this is possible is if she was over 300 or 400 pounds, so fat that she couldn't notice the baby, and even that would be unbelievable. FYI, there are no Marines who are nearly that fat.

haha

JK

[aggle_rithm]

Two things:

My wife has a condition called polycystine ovarian syndrome. It causes the menstrual cycles to get progressively further and further apart. The only treatment is to go on birth control, which regulates the menstrual cycles. Without birth control, it is still very difficult to get pregnant, but it is possible. With the menstrual cycles coming so far apart, it is easy to forget when the last one occured.

The second thing: Julia Louise-Dreyfuss of "Seinfeld" fame was pregnant several times while she played the Elaine character. I have never been able to detect the pregnancies in reruns of the show, although I've looked for them. Apparently some women don't "show up" as much as others.