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qarnos
30th September 2006, 06:12 AM
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15518

The LCers have found a person who saw the plane hit The Pentagon and took some photos of the immediate aftermath.

Naturally, he is a government shill, because of the following overwhelming evidence:

* His domain was registered on September 10, 2001.
* His front page sucks.
* He hasn't update his site in years.

Here's to scientific method!

Bell
30th September 2006, 07:14 AM
I'm sure the deniers have tried to reach him on any of his provided telephone numbers or e-mail address and ask him for comments?

jsiv
30th September 2006, 02:19 PM
Oh come on, some of them understand science!

First rule of science... Can it be reproduced?

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15132

Toro
1st October 2006, 09:28 AM
That's hilarious.

defaultdotxbe
1st October 2006, 09:45 AM
Oh come on, some of them understand science!

First rule of science... Can it be reproduced?

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15132
i can see the spin now, no collapse proves explosives, collapse proves remote controlled planes, lol

jamrat
1st October 2006, 09:52 AM
"Some of view probably heard of Steve Riskus."

I know about spelling phonectically, but come on!

slingblade
1st October 2006, 10:19 AM
The West Coast fallacy:

"No True Sk8r, Dude!"

T.A.M.
1st October 2006, 08:10 PM
Oh come on, some of them understand science!

First rule of science... Can it be reproduced?

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15132

This thread (in the quote) has got to be one of the funniest, most insane, ridiculous, ideas I have EVER heard.

OMG...what next.

TAM

qarnos
1st October 2006, 08:23 PM
OMG...what next.
TAM

How about this:

Think about why he is so accessible...phone, fax, e-mail, inst. mess.

When this s**t is all said and done, I am going to submit a list of names of people to investigate.

Hopefully they will persue and investigate Riskus, Walter, McGraw, Eberle, et al and arrest those who are lying accomplices to murder.

You do that, Merc... You do that. :rolleyes:

qarnos
1st October 2006, 08:26 PM
The pearls of wisdom keep pouring from that proverbial fountain of truth:

-He is a skate photographer who saw the flyover plane, who deduced it was AA because of later news reports and deduced that it hit the building. He literally took photos of what he thought happened.

Bolding mine.

Huh!?!?!

Is this some kind of magical wishing camera?! :boggled:

Oliver
1st October 2006, 08:38 PM
Psssst:
LCF/Thread:"Jref Invite" http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/11107451d849d38964.gif

VBU2C5
2nd October 2006, 02:09 AM
This is so frickin ridiculous, when I was reading the LC thread, some of stuff on there reminded me of the old M.A.S.H. series. I can't remember his name but he was the secret agent type guy that was totally paranoid and delusion. There really is a parallel if you stop and think about it, we are the Hawkeyes and they are the Frank Burns of the world.

Riskus is definitely an operative shill, jeez, that's their answer for everything!

Wish I could get me one of those Govt. jobs, I hear they pay pretty well, maybe I could become one of those black helicopter pilots!

Brainache
2nd October 2006, 02:17 AM
This is so frickin ridiculous, when I was reading the LC thread, some of stuff on there reminded me of the old M.A.S.H. series. I can't remember his name but he was the secret agent type guy that was totally paranoid and delusion.


Colonel Flagg I believe.

Zep
2nd October 2006, 03:23 AM
Only LC aren't quite as hilarious as Flagg.

CptColumbo
2nd October 2006, 03:49 AM
Only LC aren't quite as hilarious as Flagg.

But he was "the wind."

Zep
2nd October 2006, 04:08 AM
But he was "the wind."Oh Margaret!

CptColumbo
2nd October 2006, 10:13 AM
Hawkeye: I thing "the wind," just broke his arm.

smother
2nd October 2006, 11:28 AM
Oh come on, some of them understand science!

First rule of science... Can it be reproduced?

http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=15132


OMG. This is the paramount of fun.

Someone with deep pockets buys land out somewhere in the middle of nowhere, say Utah. Rebuild one of the twin towers. Fly a (EMPTY) plane into it filled with the same speed, approach and amount of fuel that the plane on 911 had. Sit back and watch for the "collapse". Obviously, there would be no collapse.

Sadly, this idea is probably far fetched and will never happen.
Why just one experiment? You cannot extract anything from a single experiment - you have to have multiple experiments to rule out coincidents. May I suggest 10 Boing 767 into 10 WTC like buildings?

Oh wait.... I forgot, in the LCF world there are no coincidents. So one experiment will do.

At least he has the honesty to label his idea "far fetched".

Qubit
2nd October 2006, 11:45 AM
This has had me cracking up all morning.

Merc on Steve Riskus who took photos of the Pentagon on 9/11:

-He is a skate photographer who saw the flyover plane, who deduced it was AA because of later news reports and deduced that it hit the building. He literally took photos of what he thought happened.

-He is a deep cover operative. Established an identity of a skate photographer. Established a "history". Was there or not there, but takes credit for photos and it is placed on his phony site which WAS created on 9/10/01. All entries, all entries about him and his wife are false, to reinforce that he is a real person with a real life. He does actually say that he saw the AA and that it was silver AA 757.

Deep cover skateboarder? I always had my suspicions about Tony Hawk!

Donal
2nd October 2006, 11:55 AM
Never mind things like the actual contents of the buildings, the firmness of the ground (you need solid bedrock to build a skyscraper), and a million other variables you need to reproduce the conditions.

CurtC
2nd October 2006, 12:11 PM
... nevermind the expense of building a WTC tower, and nevermind the trouble of getting a billion pounds of material to build it with (and the workers to build it) out to BFE...

Bell
2nd October 2006, 12:20 PM
And why don't we drive some people through Dealey Plaza and shoot them from the book depository while where at it?

Donal
2nd October 2006, 12:55 PM
[fine. There was no malicious intent. I know how those monkeys are with quote]

Bell
2nd October 2006, 12:57 PM
[edited, see CptColumbo's post below]

CptColumbo
2nd October 2006, 01:04 PM
Please, be careful writing things like the last few posts. I realize the LC forum is filled with death threats towards others, and threats to harm the President (a federal crime). I also realize that they can be frustrating and incredibly offensive. These, however, are not IMO sufficient reasons to bring ourselves down to their level (even in jest).

Arkan_Wolfshade
2nd October 2006, 01:13 PM
Please, be careful writing things like the last few posts. I realize the LC forum is filled with death threats towards others, and threats to harm the President (a federal crime). I also realize that they can be frustrating and incredibly offensive. These, however, are not IMO sufficient reasons to bring ourselves down to their level (even in jest).

Additionally, as has already been demonstrated, they are perfectly willing to cherry-pick such things for use in ad hom logical fallacies in an attempt to discredit their critics.

Bell
2nd October 2006, 01:17 PM
Please, be careful writing things like the last few posts. I realize the LC forum is filled with death threats towards others, and threats to harm the President (a federal crime). I also realize that they can be frustrating and incredibly offensive. These, however, are not IMO sufficient reasons to bring ourselves down to their level (even in jest).

CptColumbo, I edited the post to be sure. I'll also send you a PM.

CurtC
2nd October 2006, 01:18 PM
Any suggestions who should be in the Cadillac?
Just to be a pedantic stickler for details, it was a Lincoln.

Ducky
2nd October 2006, 01:20 PM
Just to be a pedantic stickler for details, it was a Lincoln.

This is true, and it is currently on display at the Henry Ford Museum in Michigan. Though it was completely rebuilt by Johnson, you can still see some resemblance to the original despite the fact that it is displayed with the bubble top.

Donal
2nd October 2006, 02:03 PM
Just to be a pedantic stickler for details, it was a Lincoln.

Am I the only person who finds that funny in a sick way?

kevin
2nd October 2006, 02:35 PM
death threats towards others, and threats to harm the President (a federal crime)

death threats aren't a crime but you will be visited by the secret service and if they determine you're an actual threat there will be issues....

here's a cute picture of the little door hangy they leave when they want to talk to you (this is prior to 9/11, they may not be so nice anymore).

http://www.seanbaby.com/cleveland/part3.html

CurtC
2nd October 2006, 02:46 PM
#6 from http://theshadowlands.net/jfk.htm :
Lincoln was killed in Ford's Theater. Kennedy met his death while riding in a Lincoln convertible made by the Ford Motor Company.